Beat writer Les Bowen says Westbrook looked alarmingly hobbled (1 Viewer)

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Brian Westbrook-RB-Eagles Nov. 19 - 11:18 am et

Philadelphia beat writer Les Bowen says that Brian Westbrook looked "alarmingly hobbled" at the Eagles complex Monday.

Westbrook admitted on his ESPN radio show that his high ankle sprain and knee troubles have been affecting his ability to cut. He further acknowledged that the high ankle sprain likely won't heal until the season is over. Despite his 209-yard performance in Week 8, Westbrook is playing more like a RB2 these days. He can no longer be considered a must-start with the Ravens on the docket in Week 12.

Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News

Hmmm. You never know how much substance there is to this kind of thing.

 

[Sabertooth]

Westbrook is realyl scaring me down the stretch. Is was counting on him and now it appears that he'll kill owners. I wish he'd just hang it up for the season so I could insert Buckhalter and forget about this problem.

 

[zamboni]

Upgrade for Kevin Curtis?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Whether or not Westbrook stays hobbled, the Eagles need to get CBuck more involved. He shouldn't be on any waiver wire. This could even more interesting if McNabb gets benched.

 

[munchkin]

Four punts in the last 2 minutes of a tie game. Not going for it on 4th and 1 with under 2 minutes left in OT with your season on the line. There's a lot of problems in Philadelphia.

 

[Judge Smails]

It's time for him to man up. It's time for the whole Eagles team to man up. He got 60 yards in 14 carries, and was pissed that shoe-string tackles stopped him 3 times for getting to the second level. One screen pass he would have taken to the house if Donovan didn't have Shaq's touch at the line. He can get his, even in his "hobbled" state. All players limp on Monday. He'll be fine for Sun - no excuses. He had ample time off, even with a high ankle sprain. So he's not 100%. Who is. And what's with this knee talk? I know ankle and ribs, first I've heard about anything with his knee. No matter. No whining. Time to bring it.

 

[Crusaderfan]

From the same article :

Westbrook upped the ante again on his ESPN 950 AM radio show this week, when he explained his success Sunday on draw plays vs. a distinct lack of success with other types of runs, by saying that his high ankle sprain and knee troubles make it much easier for him to accelerate in a straight line these days than to cut sharply.

Westbrook also noted that a high ankle sprain doesn't really heal until the season is over.

 

[travdogg]

This probably explains why McNabb had almost 60 pass attempts.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

This probably explains why McNabb had almost 60 pass attempts.

NO.. Andy being clueless explains that. 14 FOR 60 IS 4.2 ypc and Buck could have been used as well. There is no excuse for 60 pass att in a close game.

 

[Sack-Religious]

He certainly hasn't looked himself recently. If this continues, he might actually be undervalued again in next season's drafts.

 

[fruity pebbles]

He certainly hasn't looked himself recently. If this continues, he might actually be undervalued again in next season's drafts.

At the age where this kind of thing is expected so not sure how much of a value he'll represent

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Another Report of Westbrook Being "Badly Hurt"

I continue to hear that Brian Westbrook is badly hurt, and I wonder if they end up shutting him down, at least for a week or two. Having to play at Baltimore - which has a defense that generally leaves an opposing offense bruised and battered for weeks - will do them no favors, and I wonder if they fall off for good.

I know LaCanfora is a Redskins beat writer, but this still qualifies as another puff of smoke. With trade deadlines looming in a lot of leagues, every Westbrook owner should make plans to at least get CBuck, if not more depth for the stretch run.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

He certainly hasn't looked himself recently. If this continues, he might actually be undervalued again in next season's drafts.

At the age where this kind of thing is expected so not sure how much of a value he'll represent

With guys like Turner, Forte, and Chris Johnson coming on, not to mention the chance of Lynch and Brown being solid first rounders if their teams commit to them, Westbrook might not even be a top 10 pick next year. There's also a considerable chance that 2009 will be the year for Kolb's "welcome to the NFL" season...

 

[Sabertooth]

Whether or not Westbrook stays hobbled, the Eagles need to get CBuck more involved. He shouldn't be on any waiver wire. This could even more interesting if McNabb gets benched.

Shouldn't be on any waiver wire? He's a ####### backup. In our league we hold 3 rbs (start 2) and 4 wrs (start 3) then we have one bench spot that can be any position. I guess our league likes to be able to pull people off the waiver wire instead of every team rostering 40 players each.

 

[teamroc]

Whether or not Westbrook stays hobbled, the Eagles need to get CBuck more involved. He shouldn't be on any waiver wire. This could even more interesting if McNabb gets benched.

Shouldn't be on any waiver wire? He's a ####### backup. In our league we hold 3 rbs (start 2) and 4 wrs (start 3) then we have one bench spot that can be any position. I guess our league likes to be able to pull people off the waiver wire instead of every team rostering 40 players each.

Try to keep your rants about league settings in the right thread. This is a thread about W.E.S.T.B.R.O.O.K. Lets try to stay on topic, and stop pissing all over the thread. TIAAnd Westbrook is a must sell in dynasty. He's following SA's footsteps very quickly. MVP to junk in 2 years. A 31 year old westbrook will be next to useless in fantasy. I'd get out now.

 

[BalcoBomber]

Whether or not Westbrook stays hobbled, the Eagles need to get CBuck more involved. He shouldn't be on any waiver wire. This could even more interesting if McNabb gets benched.

Shouldn't be on any waiver wire? He's a ####### backup. In our league we hold 3 rbs (start 2) and 4 wrs (start 3) then we have one bench spot that can be any position. I guess our league likes to be able to pull people off the waiver wire instead of every team rostering 40 players each.

Wow, thanks for the fantastic insight into your league!In the 5 leagues I play, Buck is not available on any WW, most Westbrook owners have held onto him.

 

[travdogg]

This probably explains why McNabb had almost 60 pass attempts.

NO.. Andy being clueless explains that. 14 FOR 60 IS 4.2 ypc and Buck could have been used as well. There is no excuse for 60 pass att in a close game.

Well there is that too. I still think Reid is a decent coach but he's been having major problems this year, especially in the last 2 games.As far as Westbrook's keeper/dynasty value goes, I don't think Kolb will be starting unless McNabb is gone and I don't think McNabb will be gone unless Reid is gone. So I'm not sure Westbrook's value takes much of a hit. He's still a sure-fire top-10 pick in my eyes.

 

[delusional]

Westy been hurt the past few weeks. Reid keeps using him and refuses to use Buckhalter. Which will change this upcoming weekend i think. So take a flyer on buck if you have him. He produces when he plays

No reid is not a good coach, imho McNabb carried him all these years. Face it McNabb was a beast early on and then they got westbrook and that was it. Gadget play action play, deep pass TD. Screen to west. That has been the offense.

Both been hurt and now what? Reid is 29-28-1 since the superbowl vs the Pats.

Two weeks now teams come out and said "we knew what they were doing, very predictiable". That is not a sign of a good coach.

 

[Black]

Westbrook upped the ante again on his ESPN 950 AM radio show this week, when he explained his success Sunday on draw plays vs. a distinct lack of success with other types of runs, by saying that his high ankle sprain and knee troubles make it much easier for him to accelerate in a straight line these days than to cut sharply.

!!!

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

Why is it he tears it up 2 weeks ago agianst the Falcons and no Injury mentioned then he does poorly vs Gmen (no shame there) practices all week then only get 14 carries for a 4.2 ypc and he's going to blame injury.

It just makes me wonder why no complaint about the injury a few weeks ago.. Did he re injure himself, or are they passing the buck on poor play calling and play on an injury???

In years past Phi had no problems resting Westbrook all week from practice when he was injured, but this year he's pretty much practicing all week.. kinda wierd

 

[Mimo]

Im sitting him this week, I just can't afford the uncertainty at this point in the season.

 

[MAC_32]

Knowing how much of a fighter Westbrook is I was suprised to see in the game deciding 4th & 1 vs. the Giants him concede to the unblocked LB who's name escapes me before he was even hit. A healthy Westbrook would have at least tried to fight through the tackle even if he still didn't made it.

Makes sense now.

 

[daveR]

It's time for him to man up. It's time for the whole Eagles team to man up. He got 60 yards in 14 carries, and was pissed that shoe-string tackles stopped him 3 times for getting to the second level. One screen pass he would have taken to the house if Donovan didn't have Shaq's touch at the line. He can get his, even in his "hobbled" state. All players limp on Monday. He'll be fine for Sun - no excuses. He had ample time off, even with a high ankle sprain. So he's not 100%. Who is. And what's with this knee talk? I know ankle and ribs, first I've heard about anything with his knee. No matter. No whining. Time to bring it.

If there's anyone who man's up at all times, it's Westbrook!

 

[Firekaps]

This team just got through TYING a game to the lowly Bengals. Of course there is going to be blame passed around, players and coaching 2nd guessed, and fans dissapointed. Frustration is natural, however, these guys (Reid, McNabb, Westbrook) are all professionals who get paid a lot of money and have a lot of pride. There is no way they are going to throw in the towel. They will fight through injuries and do whatever it takes to get wins.

I don't think there is anything to worry about at least until they are mathmatically eliminated from the playoffs. At 5-4-1, that's not soon. After the 7th loss.

To bench Westbrook or McNabb at this point would be at your own peril, even against the Ravens. Mark it down. Big bounceback game from Westbrook and McNabb.

(Note: Westbrook owner but NOT Eagles homer)...

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Headlines

Brian Westbrook misses Wednesday's practice

Brian Westbrook missed Eagles practice in its entirety Wednesday with knee and ankle injuries.

Westbrook isn't known to have re-injured himself in Week 11, but his injuries appear to be catching up to him and his status this week isn't certain. Correll Buckhalter needs to be picked up in all leagues. The Eagles don't have an especially favorable stretch-run schedule, but Buckhalter could be in line for emergency work. Nov. 19 - 3:35 pm et

Source: philadelphiaeagles.com

 

[KingEl]

Why is it he tears it up 2 weeks ago agianst the Falcons and no Injury mentioned then he does poorly vs Gmen (no shame there) practices all week then only get 14 carries for a 4.2 ypc and he's going to blame injury.It just makes me wonder why no complaint about the injury a few weeks ago.. Did he re injure himself, or are they passing the buck on poor play calling and play on an injury??? In years past Phi had no problems resting Westbrook all week from practice when he was injured, but this year he's pretty much practicing all week.. kinda wierd

Westbrook mentioned on his radio last week that the high ankle sprain pain pops up sometimes and other times feels fine.. Basically, its going to be there until the end of the year andit gets aggravated easily. So yes, in a sense he has reinjured himself or tweaked it..With the Eagles playing on Thanksgiving- with just 4 days inbetween games- it would make sense for Reid to limit or shut down Westbrook on Sunday.. Unfortuantly with SJax out, I have to start Westy.

 

[Judge Smails]

Why is it he tears it up 2 weeks ago agianst the Falcons and no Injury mentioned then he does poorly vs Gmen (no shame there) practices all week then only get 14 carries for a 4.2 ypc and he's going to blame injury.It just makes me wonder why no complaint about the injury a few weeks ago.. Did he re injure himself, or are they passing the buck on poor play calling and play on an injury??? In years past Phi had no problems resting Westbrook all week from practice when he was injured, but this year he's pretty much practicing all week.. kinda wierd

Westbrook mentioned on his radio last week that the high ankle sprain pain pops up sometimes and other times feels fine.. Basically, its going to be there until the end of the year andit gets aggravated easily. So yes, in a sense he has reinjured himself or tweaked it..With the Eagles playing on Thanksgiving- with just 4 days inbetween games- it would make sense for Reid to limit or shut down Westbrook on Sunday.. Unfortuantly with SJax out, I have to start Westy.

If Westy is not there for the passing game vs. the Ravens, then they have no chance. As long as he practices by Friday he'll play. He was blocking in pass protection to the bitter end vs. Cincy - would be shocked to see him out.

 

[KingEl]

Why is it he tears it up 2 weeks ago agianst the Falcons and no Injury mentioned then he does poorly vs Gmen (no shame there) practices all week then only get 14 carries for a 4.2 ypc and he's going to blame injury.It just makes me wonder why no complaint about the injury a few weeks ago.. Did he re injure himself, or are they passing the buck on poor play calling and play on an injury??? In years past Phi had no problems resting Westbrook all week from practice when he was injured, but this year he's pretty much practicing all week.. kinda wierd

Westbrook mentioned on his radio last week that the high ankle sprain pain pops up sometimes and other times feels fine.. Basically, its going to be there until the end of the year andit gets aggravated easily. So yes, in a sense he has reinjured himself or tweaked it..With the Eagles playing on Thanksgiving- with just 4 days inbetween games- it would make sense for Reid to limit or shut down Westbrook on Sunday.. Unfortuantly with SJax out, I have to start Westy.

If Westy is not there for the passing game vs. the Ravens, then they have no chance. As long as he practices by Friday he'll play. He was blocking in pass protection to the bitter end vs. Cincy - would be shocked to see him out.

The fact that he was in blocking on pass protection shows Reid is crazy. If he's not going to chip and then run a route, and is just going to sit back and block- then Reid should be using Buckhalter for those plays and save the wear and tear on Westbrooks knees/ankles... Trying to block huge linebackers should not be part of Westbrooks job right now.. Buckhalter should be used a couple of times on runs, so the def isn't sure if its a run play or not- then brought in for plays where the RB is just going to block..

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

Why is it he tears it up 2 weeks ago agianst the Falcons and no Injury mentioned then he does poorly vs Gmen (no shame there) practices all week then only get 14 carries for a 4.2 ypc and he's going to blame injury.It just makes me wonder why no complaint about the injury a few weeks ago.. Did he re injure himself, or are they passing the buck on poor play calling and play on an injury??? In years past Phi had no problems resting Westbrook all week from practice when he was injured, but this year he's pretty much practicing all week.. kinda wierd

Westbrook mentioned on his radio last week that the high ankle sprain pain pops up sometimes and other times feels fine.. Basically, its going to be there until the end of the year andit gets aggravated easily. So yes, in a sense he has reinjured himself or tweaked it..With the Eagles playing on Thanksgiving- with just 4 days inbetween games- it would make sense for Reid to limit or shut down Westbrook on Sunday.. Unfortuantly with SJax out, I have to start Westy.

If Westy is not there for the passing game vs. the Ravens, then they have no chance. As long as he practices by Friday he'll play. He was blocking in pass protection to the bitter end vs. Cincy - would be shocked to see him out.

The fact that he was in blocking on pass protection shows Reid is crazy. If he's not going to chip and then run a route, and is just going to sit back and block- then Reid should be using Buckhalter for those plays and save the wear and tear on Westbrooks knees/ankles... Trying to block huge linebackers should not be part of Westbrooks job right now.. Buckhalter should be used a couple of times on runs, so the def isn't sure if its a run play or not- then brought in for plays where the RB is just going to block..

I wish he would sit this one game out..

 

[Judge Smails]

Why is it he tears it up 2 weeks ago agianst the Falcons and no Injury mentioned then he does poorly vs Gmen (no shame there) practices all week then only get 14 carries for a 4.2 ypc and he's going to blame injury.It just makes me wonder why no complaint about the injury a few weeks ago.. Did he re injure himself, or are they passing the buck on poor play calling and play on an injury??? In years past Phi had no problems resting Westbrook all week from practice when he was injured, but this year he's pretty much practicing all week.. kinda wierd

Westbrook mentioned on his radio last week that the high ankle sprain pain pops up sometimes and other times feels fine.. Basically, its going to be there until the end of the year andit gets aggravated easily. So yes, in a sense he has reinjured himself or tweaked it..With the Eagles playing on Thanksgiving- with just 4 days inbetween games- it would make sense for Reid to limit or shut down Westbrook on Sunday.. Unfortuantly with SJax out, I have to start Westy.

If Westy is not there for the passing game vs. the Ravens, then they have no chance. As long as he practices by Friday he'll play. He was blocking in pass protection to the bitter end vs. Cincy - would be shocked to see him out.

The fact that he was in blocking on pass protection shows Reid is crazy. If he's not going to chip and then run a route, and is just going to sit back and block- then Reid should be using Buckhalter for those plays and save the wear and tear on Westbrooks knees/ankles... Trying to block huge linebackers should not be part of Westbrooks job right now.. Buckhalter should be used a couple of times on runs, so the def isn't sure if its a run play or not- then brought in for plays where the RB is just going to block..

He was used as a pass blocker, picking up linebackers, all game long.

 

[Ripleys]

boy i'm so glad i traded FOR him just 2 weeks ago in a dynasty. At least it only cost me Hightower and moving down a few picks in the rookie draft...

 

[Slider]

Why is it he tears it up 2 weeks ago agianst the Falcons and no Injury mentioned then he does poorly vs Gmen (no shame there) practices all week then only get 14 carries for a 4.2 ypc and he's going to blame injury.It just makes me wonder why no complaint about the injury a few weeks ago.. Did he re injure himself, or are they passing the buck on poor play calling and play on an injury??? In years past Phi had no problems resting Westbrook all week from practice when he was injured, but this year he's pretty much practicing all week.. kinda wierd

Westbrook mentioned on his radio last week that the high ankle sprain pain pops up sometimes and other times feels fine.. Basically, its going to be there until the end of the year andit gets aggravated easily. So yes, in a sense he has reinjured himself or tweaked it..With the Eagles playing on Thanksgiving- with just 4 days inbetween games- it would make sense for Reid to limit or shut down Westbrook on Sunday.. Unfortuantly with SJax out, I have to start Westy.

If Westy is not there for the passing game vs. the Ravens, then they have no chance. As long as he practices by Friday he'll play. He was blocking in pass protection to the bitter end vs. Cincy - would be shocked to see him out.

The fact that he was in blocking on pass protection shows Reid is crazy. If he's not going to chip and then run a route, and is just going to sit back and block- then Reid should be using Buckhalter for those plays and save the wear and tear on Westbrooks knees/ankles... Trying to block huge linebackers should not be part of Westbrooks job right now.. Buckhalter should be used a couple of times on runs, so the def isn't sure if its a run play or not- then brought in for plays where the RB is just going to block..

He was used as a pass blocker, picking up linebackers, all game long.

And what if Reid asked Westbrook if he wanted to go and he said "yeah"?

 

[FantasyTrader]

Why is it he tears it up 2 weeks ago agianst the Falcons and no Injury mentioned then he does poorly vs Gmen (no shame there) practices all week then only get 14 carries for a 4.2 ypc and he's going to blame injury.

It just makes me wonder why no complaint about the injury a few weeks ago.. Did he re injure himself, or are they passing the buck on poor play calling and play on an injury???

In years past Phi had no problems resting Westbrook all week from practice when he was injured, but this year he's pretty much practicing all week.. kinda wierd

Westbrook mentioned on his radio last week that the high ankle sprain pain pops up sometimes and other times feels fine.. Basically, its going to be there until the end of the year andit gets aggravated easily. So yes, in a sense he has reinjured himself or tweaked it..With the Eagles playing on Thanksgiving- with just 4 days inbetween games- it would make sense for Reid to limit or shut down Westbrook on Sunday.. Unfortuantly with SJax out, I have to start Westy.

If Westy is not there for the passing game vs. the Ravens, then they have no chance. As long as he practices by Friday he'll play. He was blocking in pass protection to the bitter end vs. Cincy - would be shocked to see him out.

The fact that he was in blocking on pass protection shows Reid is crazy. If he's not going to chip and then run a route, and is just going to sit back and block- then Reid should be using Buckhalter for those plays and save the wear and tear on Westbrooks knees/ankles... Trying to block huge linebackers should not be part of Westbrooks job right now.. Buckhalter should be used a couple of times on runs, so the def isn't sure if its a run play or not- then brought in for plays where the RB is just going to block..

Kinda ironic that you talk about how best to trick a defense and your solution involves having CBuck be in on any play the RB isn't a threat to swing out of the backfield on a pattern. I'm not picking on you but Andy Reid is routinely thought of around here as one of the worst game managers in the NFL, yet I'd bet if you sat him down in a roundtable with a dozen of the most articulate people on a fantasy football message board - he'd make us all look like fools. I'm all for talking fantasy values in our world of make-believe but we should really check ourselves when we start hacking on staff who have risen to the top positions in professional sports.