Bengals vs. Packers MNF- what are you watching for? (1 Viewer)

[mcintyre1]

Watch the video here:

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And look at the run by Jackson at 1:30. Tell me that isn't an exceptional run. He makes a tiny cut to get past one DT, goes into the hole and shrugs off a glancing blow from Brandon Johnson (LB) before powering out of a tackle from the other DT, then takes it to the outside and carries two DBs across the first down marker and out of bounds.

Do you want a video clip of him whiffing on blocks leading to a sack and a pressure? A blindsided sack at that.

Yeah, because blocking isn't something you can learn to get better at... Yes or no, was that an exception run?

Don't take this the wrong way but the big "N" by your name isn't exactly reassuring as to your objectivity here. Regardless, the truth is somewhere in the middle here. Jackson may - may, it's early - have improved his running and vision and is making more decisive cuts, which is wonderful and bodes well for him. We have at this point a very small sample size to go on, unfortunately.

Even more unfortunate for him, however, is the fact that he damn near got Rodgers (a young QB with no viable backups ATM who already has shown signs of vulnerability to injury) killed on a blindside blitz that he completely misread. Mind you, this was a blitz out of a vanilla, first-week-of-preseason defense.

I don't think it's a mystery which pieces of information - the running plays or the missed blitz pickup - are going to stand out more in the coaching staff's mind at this point. While the one will push to put him into the lineup, the other pushes in the opposite direction very forcefully. He needs to up his game, particularly when the team is quite satisified with the play of the guy starting ahead of him.

And what exactly is reassuring your objectivity here? You've been one of his biggest detractors for awhile now. Hard to say that you aren't at least as equally biased in the opposite direction.Someone noted earlier in this thread that it looked like Jackson was setting up for the screen on the blindside sack play, and I think that that might be true... I certainly can't know for sure, but the positioning looked like he was coming up and getting ready to go out with the lineman in front of him. If that is the case, you can't heap as much blame on the "missed block." Then again, it is an "IF."

 

[T Bell]

Watch the video here:

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And look at the run by Jackson at 1:30. Tell me that isn't an exceptional run. He makes a tiny cut to get past one DT, goes into the hole and shrugs off a glancing blow from Brandon Johnson (LB) before powering out of a tackle from the other DT, then takes it to the outside and carries two DBs across the first down marker and out of bounds.

Do you want a video clip of him whiffing on blocks leading to a sack and a pressure? A blindsided sack at that.

Yeah, because blocking isn't something you can learn to get better at... Yes or no, was that an exception run?

Don't take this the wrong way but the big "N" by your name isn't exactly reassuring as to your objectivity here. Regardless, the truth is somewhere in the middle here. Jackson may - may, it's early - have improved his running and vision and is making more decisive cuts, which is wonderful and bodes well for him. We have at this point a very small sample size to go on, unfortunately.

Even more unfortunate for him, however, is the fact that he damn near got Rodgers (a young QB with no viable backups ATM who already has shown signs of vulnerability to injury) killed on a blindside blitz that he completely misread. Mind you, this was a blitz out of a vanilla, first-week-of-preseason defense.

I don't think it's a mystery which pieces of information - the running plays or the missed blitz pickup - are going to stand out more in the coaching staff's mind at this point. While the one will push to put him into the lineup, the other pushes in the opposite direction very forcefully. He needs to up his game, particularly when the team is quite satisified with the play of the guy starting ahead of him.

And what exactly is reassuring your objectivity here? You've been one of his biggest detractors for awhile now. Hard to say that you aren't at least as equally biased in the opposite direction.Someone noted earlier in this thread that it looked like Jackson was setting up for the screen on the blindside sack play, and I think that that might be true... I certainly can't know for sure, but the positioning looked like he was coming up and getting ready to go out with the lineman in front of him. If that is the case, you can't heap as much blame on the "missed block." Then again, it is an "IF."

Link?

 

[QuizGuy66]

Jerome Simpson

He'll be better in year 3 than in year 1. Any word on how Andre Caldwell looked ?-QG

That's some prediction! Actually, Simpson came on in the second half and looked ok. Caldwell looked alright on a couple of kick returns, but it's really hard to judge any of the young WRs when the Bengals completed so few passes.

Heh, yeah that reads funny, but what I essentially meant was that the pick will look better in year 3 than in year 1. I think he's going to be more of a project this year and won't be heard from much but in a couple of years the pick will look great.-QG

 

[sho nuff]

Watch the video here:

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And look at the run by Jackson at 1:30. Tell me that isn't an exceptional run. He makes a tiny cut to get past one DT, goes into the hole and shrugs off a glancing blow from Brandon Johnson (LB) before powering out of a tackle from the other DT, then takes it to the outside and carries two DBs across the first down marker and out of bounds.

Do you want a video clip of him whiffing on blocks leading to a sack and a pressure? A blindsided sack at that.

Yeah, because blocking isn't something you can learn to get better at... Yes or no, was that an exception run?

It was a nice run...care to watch all of Grant's runs from last year to see what a RB does against better defenses?Funny, he has had issues blocking since he came here last year.

He improved a bit, but needs to improve much more if he really wants to take any real time away from Grant.

 

[sho nuff]

Watch the video here:

Gamecenter

And look at the run by Jackson at 1:30. Tell me that isn't an exceptional run. He makes a tiny cut to get past one DT, goes into the hole and shrugs off a glancing blow from Brandon Johnson (LB) before powering out of a tackle from the other DT, then takes it to the outside and carries two DBs across the first down marker and out of bounds.

Do you want a video clip of him whiffing on blocks leading to a sack and a pressure? A blindsided sack at that.

this is what McCarthy said when asked if the breakdown was Jackson's fault:

It was a breakdown in communication which resulted in not picking the protection up. So based on who communicated and who didn't get it, those are things you iron out when you watch the film.

Not sure that was on the pressure or the sack.Jackson's words indicate the communication one was an issue on the pressure (as the safety has got to be his responsibility and not the LT's).

"The first one was me," Jackson said. "The second one, it was just a breakdown in communication.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=782159

 

[sho nuff]

Watch the video here:

Gamecenter

And look at the run by Jackson at 1:30. Tell me that isn't an exceptional run. He makes a tiny cut to get past one DT, goes into the hole and shrugs off a glancing blow from Brandon Johnson (LB) before powering out of a tackle from the other DT, then takes it to the outside and carries two DBs across the first down marker and out of bounds.

Do you want a video clip of him whiffing on blocks leading to a sack and a pressure? A blindsided sack at that.

Yeah, because blocking isn't something you can learn to get better at... Yes or no, was that an exception run?

Don't take this the wrong way but the big "N" by your name isn't exactly reassuring as to your objectivity here. Regardless, the truth is somewhere in the middle here. Jackson may - may, it's early - have improved his running and vision and is making more decisive cuts, which is wonderful and bodes well for him. We have at this point a very small sample size to go on, unfortunately.

Even more unfortunate for him, however, is the fact that he damn near got Rodgers (a young QB with no viable backups ATM who already has shown signs of vulnerability to injury) killed on a blindside blitz that he completely misread. Mind you, this was a blitz out of a vanilla, first-week-of-preseason defense.

I don't think it's a mystery which pieces of information - the running plays or the missed blitz pickup - are going to stand out more in the coaching staff's mind at this point. While the one will push to put him into the lineup, the other pushes in the opposite direction very forcefully. He needs to up his game, particularly when the team is quite satisified with the play of the guy starting ahead of him.

And what exactly is reassuring your objectivity here? You've been one of his biggest detractors for awhile now. Hard to say that you aren't at least as equally biased in the opposite direction.Someone noted earlier in this thread that it looked like Jackson was setting up for the screen on the blindside sack play, and I think that that might be true... I certainly can't know for sure, but the positioning looked like he was coming up and getting ready to go out with the lineman in front of him. If that is the case, you can't heap as much blame on the "missed block." Then again, it is an "IF."

How about Jackson's words.

"The first one was me," Jackson said. "The second one, it was just a breakdown in communication.

 

[Aaronstory]

Watch the video here:

Gamecenter

And look at the run by Jackson at 1:30. Tell me that isn't an exceptional run. He makes a tiny cut to get past one DT, goes into the hole and shrugs off a glancing blow from Brandon Johnson (LB) before powering out of a tackle from the other DT, then takes it to the outside and carries two DBs across the first down marker and out of bounds.

Do you want a video clip of him whiffing on blocks leading to a sack and a pressure? A blindsided sack at that.

Yeah, because blocking isn't something you can learn to get better at... Yes or no, was that an exception run?

The run was great, but pass pro was his weakness at this point LAST year. If he's "going to get better" he damn well better hurry up...

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Regarding the performance by Rodgers, it's obvious one game in the preseason is not enough to judge him. However, the mental toughness and poise he showed after a ridiculously tough week is impossible to ignore, even if it is only one game.

 

[Biabreakable]

How long is this situation going to bear close watching? At what point do you give up on a player, when they get cut or when they die?

Chris Perry has a very real chance to recover his career. The Bengals have not given up on him yet. I think you may be writing him off too soon..

Perry ran better last night than any Bengal RB did last year...and this is after not playing in a long time. He will only get better with more practice and playing time. There is no question a healthy Perry will be a big part of the offense.

x3 Perry is their best all around back by a pretty good margin but Rudi will still carry most of the load. I'm guessing 100-450 and 50-300.

I thought Watson looked better on most runs. But I didn't watch the whole thing, just some of the second quarter. Looking at the boxscore it does seem like Perry had a good game. We'll see. I think BJax rules the night though with 6 for 44 yards. 7.3 ypc

Watson did start and he performed about as well as Perry did so I do not see him as out of the picture if Rudi goes down.From what I have been reading on the situation however is that the Bengals want Rudi to be their 1st and 2nd down RB and Perry to be the 3rd down change of pace RB. Watson backs up Rudi.So I think that is what we saw. How well Perry performs moving forward and how Rudi does will determine how much of a role Perry has in 2008. The best news is that the Bengals Oline definitly is playing better than it did last year.I do think they want to see if Perry can become a long term solution for them or not. It will not suprise me to see Watson and Perry share time if Rudi is not back to form, but the Bengals have more invested in Perry and want to know if he can be their future starter.. role player.. or nothing.. because they will make their next season player aquisitions based off of what Perry shows them this year.

 

[T Bell]

Regarding the performance by Rodgers, it's obvious one game in the preseason is not enough to judge him. However, the mental toughness and poise he showed after a ridiculously tough week is impossible to ignore, even if it is only one game.

I give a lot of credit to Packers fans for warmly receiving him too. That's a great pat on the back of reassurance after a turbulent week, with lots of tough words directed at Rodgers from some quarters. That was handled very well. In most other NFL cities you'd have either not had that or would have even heard some boos.