Best backup QB waiting for his shot? (1 Viewer)

[Tornacl]

I'm curious as to who the Shark Pool considers the best young QB still waiting for his shot. To set a basis for discussion, I would say the "best" would have to have a lot of talent, be likely to have a shot by the end of next season (2008), and also have some talent around him. In the past couple of years, I'm talking guys like Matt Schaub and Phillip Rivers. (I don't think anyone could've predicted that Tony Romo would have this much success already.)

I didn't want to make it a poll, because there are a lot of QBs that could be considered. As always, your reasons for picking a particular player are what makes the discussion worthwhile.

Brady Quinn is an easy choice based on his talent as well as the weapons to throw to, but with the way that Derek Anderson is playing, he won't be seeing the field anytime soon, barring injury.

I didn't see enough of Drew Stanton to know, but he's got an ideal combination of weapons around him, and an aging QB in front of him, as well as Mike Martz' system (if he's still there). I'm a Lions fan, so I won't pick him.

I'm going with Kevin Kolb. I think that the Donovan McNabb era in Philly is coming to an end, and they picked Kolb for a reason. He has a better team around him than Beck does in Miami, and I'm not sold on JaMarcus Russell. (For me, Aaron Rogers was a big unknown. Has he learned anything from Favre, and will Brett come back again?)

 

[Bri]

I like Fitzpatrick

 

[valhallan]

Of those mentioned, I think you have to go with Aaron Rodgers. GB is the youngest team in the league, has a nice developing set of weapons, and what looks like a stable coaching situation. Rodgers has undoubtedly learned a lot on the sidelines and looked much improved this pre-season over last. Obviously the big question is how long will he have to wait for a chance.. who knows, but Favre is clearly defying the odds right now and it may catch up to him at any moment.

 

[Tornacl]

Of those mentioned, I think you have to go with Aaron Rodgers. GB is the youngest team in the league, has a nice developing set of weapons, and what looks like a stable coaching situation. Rodgers has undoubtedly learned a lot on the sidelines and looked much improved this pre-season over last. Obviously the big question is how long will he have to wait for a chance.. who knows, but Favre is clearly defying the odds right now and it may catch up to him at any moment.

As I wrote, Rodgers was the big unknown for me. I didn't want to limit the discussion to the guys I mentioned, though.

 

[FantasyTrader]

I think Drew Stanton could have a great career. And at least for the next decade - shouldn't be short on weapons.

 

[MiniBears]

I like Stanton, but Jeff Smoker was supposed to be a stud too and has much of the same pedigree - Michigan State, big college numbers, picked by Martz. Aaron Rodgers scares me because of his draft class (Alex Smith #1 overall). I like John Beck a lot but he's got his shot now.

I think Trent Edwards has some upside too, and Bill Walsh liked him a lot coming out of school so that says something.

 

[Bossman]

Trent Edwards threatend for the starting gig for a spell. He didn't look awfull.

 

[RBM]

How about big Jared Lorenzen

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I'm curious as to who the Shark Pool considers the best young QB still waiting for his shot. To set a basis for discussion, I would say the "best" would have to have a lot of talent, be likely to have a shot by the end of next season (2008), and also have some talent around him. In the past couple of years, I'm talking guys like Matt Schaub and Phillip Rivers. (I don't think anyone could've predicted that Tony Romo would have this much success already.)

I didn't want to make it a poll, because there are a lot of QBs that could be considered. As always, your reasons for picking a particular player are what makes the discussion worthwhile.

Brady Quinn is an easy choice based on his talent as well as the weapons to throw to, but with the way that Derek Anderson is playing, he won't be seeing the field anytime soon, barring injury.

I didn't see enough of Drew Stanton to know, but he's got an ideal combination of weapons around him, and an aging QB in front of him, as well as Mike Martz' system (if he's still there). I'm a Lions fan, so I won't pick him.

I'm going with Kevin Kolb. I think that the Donovan McNabb era in Philly is coming to an end, and they picked Kolb for a reason. He has a better team around him than Beck does in Miami, and I'm not sold on JaMarcus Russell. (For me, Aaron Rogers was a big unknown. Has he learned anything from Favre, and will Brett come back again?)

This is an excellent and well-posed question, but it is also one that is difficult to answer in that there are terribly FEW QBs that haven't gotten a shot this year. At last count I saw 66 QBs that had seen action at least in part this season. That's more than 2 per team, and I think we're on a record pace to see 75+ guys under center this year.Kevin Kolb is a good name to mention, and he's in a good position to do well. Philly is a very good home for a QB to be groomed for the future.

I like Rodgers, but Favre looks as good as ever.

I'm going to say Matt Moore. I think he's going to eventually get a decent shot in this league. Two teams were basically fighting over keeping him / stashing him (Dallas had him, then Carolina grabbed him after the final cuts before Dallas could snap him back up and put him on the practice squad). I wrote him up in this week's Dynasty Watch, and from what I've seen he looks like he has the goods.

I also like JT O'Sullivan. If Stanton doesn't pan out, he's in a great situation with very good WR options.

oh, and :ibtCBoyNallLovefest:

 

[Jeff Haseley]

I'm curious as to who the Shark Pool considers the best young QB still waiting for his shot. To set a basis for discussion, I would say the "best" would have to have a lot of talent, be likely to have a shot by the end of next season (2008), and also have some talent around him. In the past couple of years, I'm talking guys like Matt Schaub and Phillip Rivers. (I don't think anyone could've predicted that Tony Romo would have this much success already.)

I didn't want to make it a poll, because there are a lot of QBs that could be considered. As always, your reasons for picking a particular player are what makes the discussion worthwhile.

Brady Quinn is an easy choice based on his talent as well as the weapons to throw to, but with the way that Derek Anderson is playing, he won't be seeing the field anytime soon, barring injury.

I didn't see enough of Drew Stanton to know, but he's got an ideal combination of weapons around him, and an aging QB in front of him, as well as Mike Martz' system (if he's still there). I'm a Lions fan, so I won't pick him.

I'm going with Kevin Kolb. I think that the Donovan McNabb era in Philly is coming to an end, and they picked Kolb for a reason. He has a better team around him than Beck does in Miami, and I'm not sold on JaMarcus Russell. (For me, Aaron Rogers was a big unknown. Has he learned anything from Favre, and will Brett come back again?)

This is an excellent and well-posed question, but it is also one that is difficult to answer in that there are terribly FEW QBs that haven't gotten a shot this year. At last count I saw 66 QBs that had seen action at least in part this season. That's more than 2 per team, and I think we're on a record pace to see 75+ guys under center this year.Kevin Kolb is a good name to mention, and he's in a good position to do well. Philly is a very good home for a QB to be groomed for the future.

I like Rodgers, but Favre looks as good as ever.

I'm going to say Matt Moore. I think he's going to eventually get a decent shot in this league. Two teams were basically fighting over keeping him / stashing him (Dallas had him, then Carolina grabbed him after the final cuts before Dallas could snap him back up and put him on the practice squad). I wrote him up in this week's Dynasty Watch, and from what I've seen he looks like he has the goods.

I also like JT O'Sullivan. If Stanton doesn't pan out, he's in a great situation with very good WR options.

oh, and :ibtCBoyNallLovefest:

LOL @ :ibtCBoyNallLovefest: I was going to say some of the same things you said Jeff, but you beat me to it. Kolb, O'Sullivan and Matt Moore for the same reasons. Just to mention another name - John Beck and he's finally getting his chance this week against Phila. It will be interesting to see who he relies on. Will it be Booker, Ginn or possibly Derek Hagan? My money is on Ginn, but we'll see. QBs who mostly get 2nd team snaps in practice generally pass to 2nd team WRs and it carries over when the backup gets a chance to start. We'll see. I don't see Miami going 0-16.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I'm curious as to who the Shark Pool considers the best young QB still waiting for his shot. To set a basis for discussion, I would say the "best" would have to have a lot of talent, be likely to have a shot by the end of next season (2008), and also have some talent around him. In the past couple of years, I'm talking guys like Matt Schaub and Phillip Rivers. (I don't think anyone could've predicted that Tony Romo would have this much success already.)

I didn't want to make it a poll, because there are a lot of QBs that could be considered. As always, your reasons for picking a particular player are what makes the discussion worthwhile.

Brady Quinn is an easy choice based on his talent as well as the weapons to throw to, but with the way that Derek Anderson is playing, he won't be seeing the field anytime soon, barring injury.

I didn't see enough of Drew Stanton to know, but he's got an ideal combination of weapons around him, and an aging QB in front of him, as well as Mike Martz' system (if he's still there). I'm a Lions fan, so I won't pick him.

I'm going with Kevin Kolb. I think that the Donovan McNabb era in Philly is coming to an end, and they picked Kolb for a reason. He has a better team around him than Beck does in Miami, and I'm not sold on JaMarcus Russell. (For me, Aaron Rogers was a big unknown. Has he learned anything from Favre, and will Brett come back again?)

This is an excellent and well-posed question, but it is also one that is difficult to answer in that there are terribly FEW QBs that haven't gotten a shot this year. At last count I saw 66 QBs that had seen action at least in part this season. That's more than 2 per team, and I think we're on a record pace to see 75+ guys under center this year.Kevin Kolb is a good name to mention, and he's in a good position to do well. Philly is a very good home for a QB to be groomed for the future.

I like Rodgers, but Favre looks as good as ever.

I'm going to say Matt Moore. I think he's going to eventually get a decent shot in this league. Two teams were basically fighting over keeping him / stashing him (Dallas had him, then Carolina grabbed him after the final cuts before Dallas could snap him back up and put him on the practice squad). I wrote him up in this week's Dynasty Watch, and from what I've seen he looks like he has the goods.

I also like JT O'Sullivan. If Stanton doesn't pan out, he's in a great situation with very good WR options.

oh, and :ibtCBoyNallLovefest:

LOL @ :ibtCBoyNallLovefest: I was going to say some of the same things you said Jeff, but you beat me to it. Kolb, O'Sullivan and Matt Moore for the same reasons. Just to mention another name - John Beck and he's finally getting his chance this week against Phila. It will be interesting to see who he relies on. Will it be Booker, Ginn or possibly Derek Hagan? My money is on Ginn, but we'll see. QBs who mostly get 2nd team snaps in practice generally pass to 2nd team WRs and it carries over when the backup gets a chance to start. We'll see. I don't see Miami going 0-16.

:( So which game do you see getting cancelled for Miami?

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I'm curious as to who the Shark Pool considers the best young QB still waiting for his shot. To set a basis for discussion, I would say the "best" would have to have a lot of talent, be likely to have a shot by the end of next season (2008), and also have some talent around him. In the past couple of years, I'm talking guys like Matt Schaub and Phillip Rivers. (I don't think anyone could've predicted that Tony Romo would have this much success already.)

I didn't want to make it a poll, because there are a lot of QBs that could be considered. As always, your reasons for picking a particular player are what makes the discussion worthwhile.

Brady Quinn is an easy choice based on his talent as well as the weapons to throw to, but with the way that Derek Anderson is playing, he won't be seeing the field anytime soon, barring injury.

I didn't see enough of Drew Stanton to know, but he's got an ideal combination of weapons around him, and an aging QB in front of him, as well as Mike Martz' system (if he's still there). I'm a Lions fan, so I won't pick him.

I'm going with Kevin Kolb. I think that the Donovan McNabb era in Philly is coming to an end, and they picked Kolb for a reason. He has a better team around him than Beck does in Miami, and I'm not sold on JaMarcus Russell. (For me, Aaron Rogers was a big unknown. Has he learned anything from Favre, and will Brett come back again?)

This is an excellent and well-posed question, but it is also one that is difficult to answer in that there are terribly FEW QBs that haven't gotten a shot this year. At last count I saw 66 QBs that had seen action at least in part this season. That's more than 2 per team, and I think we're on a record pace to see 75+ guys under center this year.Kevin Kolb is a good name to mention, and he's in a good position to do well. Philly is a very good home for a QB to be groomed for the future.

I like Rodgers, but Favre looks as good as ever.

I'm going to say Matt Moore. I think he's going to eventually get a decent shot in this league. Two teams were basically fighting over keeping him / stashing him (Dallas had him, then Carolina grabbed him after the final cuts before Dallas could snap him back up and put him on the practice squad). I wrote him up in this week's Dynasty Watch, and from what I've seen he looks like he has the goods.

I also like JT O'Sullivan. If Stanton doesn't pan out, he's in a great situation with very good WR options.

oh, and :ibtCBoyNallLovefest:

LOL @ :ibtCBoyNallLovefest: I was going to say some of the same things you said Jeff, but you beat me to it. Kolb, O'Sullivan and Matt Moore for the same reasons. Just to mention another name - John Beck and he's finally getting his chance this week against Phila. It will be interesting to see who he relies on. Will it be Booker, Ginn or possibly Derek Hagan? My money is on Ginn, but we'll see. QBs who mostly get 2nd team snaps in practice generally pass to 2nd team WRs and it carries over when the backup gets a chance to start. We'll see. I don't see Miami going 0-16.

:( So which game do you see getting cancelled for Miami?

I would like to hear opinions on Brodie Croyle.I haven't seen him in action, but I'm curious to see

what he can to with this opportunity.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

So which game do you see getting cancelled for Miami? :(

I see them winning either this week against Phila, because Phila doesn't know what to expect from John Beck. Or... at home against Baltimore in week 15 or week 17 vs. Cincinnati.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

So which game do you see getting cancelled for Miami?

I see them winning either this week against Phila, because Phila doesn't know what to expect from John Beck.

Or... at home against Baltimore in week 15 or week 17 vs. Cincinnati.

I thought you were my friend..... The Eagles are capable of lowering themselves to that level, but I bet they win it (but may not cover).

The saving grace is that they have found ways to stop the run. I don't think Beck vs. Jim Johnson's D is a good matchup, especially with Lito and B-Dawk both back.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I'm curious as to who the Shark Pool considers the best young QB still waiting for his shot. To set a basis for discussion, I would say the "best" would have to have a lot of talent, be likely to have a shot by the end of next season (2008), and also have some talent around him. In the past couple of years, I'm talking guys like Matt Schaub and Phillip Rivers. (I don't think anyone could've predicted that Tony Romo would have this much success already.)

I didn't want to make it a poll, because there are a lot of QBs that could be considered. As always, your reasons for picking a particular player are what makes the discussion worthwhile.

Brady Quinn is an easy choice based on his talent as well as the weapons to throw to, but with the way that Derek Anderson is playing, he won't be seeing the field anytime soon, barring injury.

I didn't see enough of Drew Stanton to know, but he's got an ideal combination of weapons around him, and an aging QB in front of him, as well as Mike Martz' system (if he's still there). I'm a Lions fan, so I won't pick him.

I'm going with Kevin Kolb. I think that the Donovan McNabb era in Philly is coming to an end, and they picked Kolb for a reason. He has a better team around him than Beck does in Miami, and I'm not sold on JaMarcus Russell. (For me, Aaron Rogers was a big unknown. Has he learned anything from Favre, and will Brett come back again?)

This is an excellent and well-posed question, but it is also one that is difficult to answer in that there are terribly FEW QBs that haven't gotten a shot this year. At last count I saw 66 QBs that had seen action at least in part this season. That's more than 2 per team, and I think we're on a record pace to see 75+ guys under center this year.Kevin Kolb is a good name to mention, and he's in a good position to do well. Philly is a very good home for a QB to be groomed for the future.

I like Rodgers, but Favre looks as good as ever.

I'm going to say Matt Moore. I think he's going to eventually get a decent shot in this league. Two teams were basically fighting over keeping him / stashing him (Dallas had him, then Carolina grabbed him after the final cuts before Dallas could snap him back up and put him on the practice squad). I wrote him up in this week's Dynasty Watch, and from what I've seen he looks like he has the goods.

I also like JT O'Sullivan. If Stanton doesn't pan out, he's in a great situation with very good WR options.

oh, and :ibtCBoyNallLovefest:

LOL @ :ibtCBoyNallLovefest: I was going to say some of the same things you said Jeff, but you beat me to it. Kolb, O'Sullivan and Matt Moore for the same reasons. Just to mention another name - John Beck and he's finally getting his chance this week against Phila. It will be interesting to see who he relies on. Will it be Booker, Ginn or possibly Derek Hagan? My money is on Ginn, but we'll see. QBs who mostly get 2nd team snaps in practice generally pass to 2nd team WRs and it carries over when the backup gets a chance to start. We'll see. I don't see Miami going 0-16.

So which game do you see getting cancelled for Miami?

I would like to hear opinions on Brodie Croyle.I haven't seen him in action, but I'm curious to see

what he can to with this opportunity.

Decent ability and skills, but doesn't seem to have the grasp of the game / speed / offense just yet.Herm Edwards believes in him, and the organization is waiting for him to take over, so they see something in him. He has decent targets to help him out (Tony Gonzalez, Bowe, and I believe Kennison is back) plus Priest is ok in the backfield (enough to compliment the passing game).

I don't think he's a stellar option, but he's capable. I could see him more of a journeyman QB - one that's capable of managing a good game, but not one you'd want under center with 2 minutes left and down by 4.

 

[BigA]

Orton all the way.

 

[trader jake]

The only thing keeping me from saying Kevin Kolb is a possible coaching change. He could go from the high pick heir apparent in a passing offense to an inherited, unproven, back-up on a defense/running team for all we know right now.

Gotta go with Brady Quinn.

Do Bruce Gradkowski or Chris Simms have anything moving forward?

 

[Tanner9919]

I think Drew Stanton could have a great career. And at least for the next decade - shouldn't be short on weapons.

watching him blow that HUGE lead against ND last season is about all I need to see from Stanton..I don't think he's going to be anything special, at best , he'll be a MORE erratic version of Eli Manning, and thats not good..

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Russell has the highest ceiling of the rooks and of all of the backups.

I have the next 5 rooks tightly packed, but all coming right after Russell on the list of top backups. At this moment I have Kolb highest because the inevitable end of the McNabb era in Philly + the positive practice buzz. Kolb seemed like a boom/bust prospect, and the buzz around him indicates that he's on the boom path. I have Stanton next simply because of the sick weapons. He also has a boom/bust angle, and we have precious little info to go on because of the IR move, but it was fun to watch Martz sculp Stanton before he got hurt, and I think he will help "flip the switch" in the gritty, if erratic, prototype out of Michigan State. I have Beck next simply because he's getting his shot now. Green and Lemon have been middle of the road fantasy QBs this year, so it's not like Beck is mired in Minnesota or Jacksonville. I am not a Beck believer, but he will have some good team speed if Brown is all the way back and Booker and Ginn pan out. Quinn is next, but his arrival is on indefinite delay as long as Derek Anderson holds up. I can not for the life of me figure out why Cleveland would not lock up Anderson if he keeps this level of play up all year. I personally dont believe in Anderson, but the Browns have been so hungry for an answer at QB since the Couch disaster, and Anderson has clearly elevated the team with him with his aggressive play. I am also not a Quinn believer. Last is Edwards, he got his shot, and looked very competent, but the training wheels were still on. I see a good game manager with upside, but someone with middling to pedestrian stats with the current lineup and philosophy. I do have those 5 in a row in my rankings, so they are closer than you would think.

Next comes Aaron Rodgers, as the Packers alluded, he may not get his shot with them, but look at how bad the QB play is out there. He will get a shot somewhere, because he hasn't failed... yet. He certainly hasnt created much positive buzz or turned heads in his limited playing time, getting hurt almost immediately when he got playing time last year, after looking terrible before breaking the foot.

I like Matt Cassel next, he's athletic, and he's gotten watch and learn from Brady for his whole career. I expect a team to bring him to at least backup at unstable starter when he hits FA in 09. The #3 there, Matt Gutierrez, also intrigues me.

Number 9 is Sage Rosenfels. Whether in Miami or Houston, this guy is gritty and has a can-do attitude. He's piloted two crazy comebacks in his limited chances, and he's a tough customer. He had the classic blood running down the face while he called out the snap count moment in the win over Oakland. I would certainly prefer him to at least five of the guys starting on Sunday if I was a GM or HC.

Rounding out the top 10 is Troy Smith. I don't know if Baltimore will bring in someone else next year and keep him at #3. he didn't have a great camp. But he's still in line to get a shot if he plugs away, and he's an intriguing enough talent that he has more upside than a typical backup level QB.

Other interesting guys to me include Kyle Orton, Joey Harrington, because I think he's earned a shot somewhere else, Griese and Huard, because they are just competent enough to get a few more shots in this QB poor league, and as we've seen, they have their fantasy moments, Andrew Walter, who I believe was never given a fair shake in Oakland, and Charlie Frye, who is getting great reports in Seattle.

 

[nerangers]

How about Kellen Clemmens? I stashed him on my roster at this years draft.

I think by the end of this season we will have a good look at them...I just don't see Pennington as the starter next year.

 

[dmac37]

Of those mentioned, I think you have to go with Aaron Rodgers. GB is the youngest team in the league, has a nice developing set of weapons, and what looks like a stable coaching situation. Rodgers has undoubtedly learned a lot on the sidelines and looked much improved this pre-season over last. Obviously the big question is how long will he have to wait for a chance.. who knows, but Favre is clearly defying the odds right now and it may catch up to him at any moment.

:X

I think Favre could retire after this year, they have a 50/50 chance with Dallas going to the super bowl. Favre did not want to go out with the way they played the last few years, but could be ready to go out after this years showing.

I like Stanton, but Jeff Smoker was supposed to be a stud too and has much of the same pedigree - Michigan State, big college numbers, picked by Martz. Aaron Rodgers scares me because of his draft class (Alex Smith #1 overall). I like John Beck a lot but he's got his shot now.

Rodgers is not a sure bet, but do not see what the rest of the draft class has to do with it. He looked good in pre-season and reports were finally good coming out of camp this year. GB is a young team with plenty of weapons.

 

[Nemesis]

Is Billy Volek still with SD?.......2 yrs ago, he would have won this award hands down

 

[PatrickT]

Based on the criteria in the question, I think Trent Edwards is at the top of the list. I believe he's already next year's starter in Buffalo, and Losman will be heavily shopped in a trade and is auditioning right now while Edwards gets some more seasoning to be ready for next year.

As an outside long-shot, DJ Shockley deserves a mention. If not for a blown knee in the pre-season, he could very well be the starter right now. He's a bit under-rated, I think, and really unknown because he only got the one year starting at Georgia. I would think he'll get a shot in '08.

 

[Sanboy]

Gutierrez - NE ----- from what i have read is almost ready to fight for the # 2 job away from Cassel ... I wouldnt be surprised to see him as the # 2 heading into training camp

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Nall

 

[Gnat Berries]

So after that Dallas game, Aaron Rodgers pretty much shot right up to #1 on this list.

When Farve retires, either this year or next, a talented and much-matured Rodgers will inherit on hell of a young, talented team with playoff experience and a great coaching staff.

The only downside to the guy is he'll be playing in Farve's shadow. But that didn't stop Steve Young from succeeding Montana.

 

[FUBAR]

Shaun Hill?

 

[msommer]

Nall

Not much of a love fest...

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Nall

Not much of a love fest...

hater

 

[J Andersson]

So after that Dallas game, Aaron Rodgers pretty much shot right up to #1 on this list.

When Farve retires, either this year or next, a talented and much-matured Rodgers will inherit on hell of a young, talented team with playoff experience and a great coaching staff.

The only downside to the guy is he'll be playing in Farve's shadow. But that didn't stop Steve Young from succeeding Montana.

And yet again it seems that a team willing to take a talented QB and develop him (for as long as he needs) behind a veteran will get rewarded in the end. I'm not saying that was the Packers blue-print when picking up Rodgers (since they've in all likelihood was as surprised as the rest of us by Favre's decision making process) but it has been proven that early playing time in most cases hurt a rookie QB more than what the gain is.It seems that with the current short leash on coaches to be succesful instantly, they are constantly starting their young drafted QBs prematurely?

If you're not willing to let a player take a couple of years to develop - there are far bigger chances of early success from a number of backups mentioned here (even if given successors such as Rodgers and Russell are left out)! To me it seems like this is a constant mismanagement from several clubs - and I think those clubs picking Brohm, Ryan and Woodson will find themselves starting those guys too early as well...

To me this seems obvious! So why does this happen over and over again? David Carr? Joey Harrington? Alex Smith? Byron Leftwich?

I can see why short-term success is important but what are the odds of a rookie passer proving to be Brady or Manning-like (there's the odd Big Ben I know)? I'm pretty certain that settling for a veteran starter with his successor learning from behind equals more success short and long term.

Sorry - didn't mean to hijack this thread but the number of capable backups compared to unsuccesful starting early career drafted passers continues to be an enigma to me...

 

[BLOX]

Rodgers will be awesome once he gets his shot. The time to buy is right after Favre says he comes back for 2008 if you do not have him in your dynasty leagues. He's going to be the starter in Green Bay beginning in 2009. The Packers know what they have in him, as do Packer fans, and he will be payed accordingly when that time comes. He won't get as much as the Packers will be willing to pay elsewhere as they will have an extra $10 million in cap room when Favre does retire and Rodgers contract will be extended and his salary will be average with bonuses that can be reached as a starting QB normally would in a season.

Too many thoughts at once in that last paragraph. Sorry if they are jumbled.

Once Rodgers starts though, look out. He knows this offense as good as anyone and gets lots of reps in practice. Jennings, Driver, Jones, K-Rob, Martin, Lee, and Franks are all familiar with him like they are with Favre. It's very exciting knowing that the QB of the future in in tow and ready to go. Of course all bets are off if he can't stay healthy, but from what was reported, he would have only missed one game if the Packers truly needed him. The break he suffered in 2006 though is what worries me a bit, but hopefully it was a fluke.

Once again, buy him once Favre states he's coming back in 2008. His owners will be tired of holding him for so long.

 

[Restricted]

Number 9 is Sage Rosenfels. Whether in Miami or Houston, this guy is gritty and has a can-do attitude. He's piloted two crazy comebacks in his limited chances, and he's a tough customer. He had the classic blood running down the face while he called out the snap count moment in the win over Oakland. I would certainly prefer him to at least five of the guys starting on Sunday if I was a GM or HC.

The guy turns 30 this year so he may not be high on Dynasty GM's lists. The dude's performed whenever needed and I'm surprised by only his one mention. I don't think that he'll ever get the call as a full time starter but watching Schaub this season with injuries and as long as the Texans have Andre Johnson, Sage should be one of the more valuable back-ups.

 

[Da Guru]

I'm curious as to who the Shark Pool considers the best young QB still waiting for his shot. To set a basis for discussion, I would say the "best" would have to have a lot of talent, be likely to have a shot by the end of next season (2008), and also have some talent around him. In the past couple of years, I'm talking guys like Matt Schaub and Phillip Rivers. (I don't think anyone could've predicted that Tony Romo would have this much success already.)I didn't want to make it a poll, because there are a lot of QBs that could be considered. As always, your reasons for picking a particular player are what makes the discussion worthwhile.Brady Quinn is an easy choice based on his talent as well as the weapons to throw to, but with the way that Derek Anderson is playing, he won't be seeing the field anytime soon, barring injury.I didn't see enough of Drew Stanton to know, but he's got an ideal combination of weapons around him, and an aging QB in front of him, as well as Mike Martz' system (if he's still there). I'm a Lions fan, so I won't pick him.I'm going with Kevin Kolb. I think that the Donovan McNabb era in Philly is coming to an end, and they picked Kolb for a reason. He has a better team around him than Beck does in Miami, and I'm not sold on JaMarcus Russell. (For me, Aaron Rogers was a big unknown. Has he learned anything from Favre, and will Brett come back again?)

To me Stanton has to be the starter in Detroit next year.Two years of Kitna is enough. I like Kitna but he has limitations..Kitna eould be a great backup at this stage of his career.

 

[Da Guru]

I like Stanton, but Jeff Smoker was supposed to be a stud too and has much of the same pedigree - Michigan State, big college numbers, picked by Martz. Aaron Rodgers scares me because of his draft class (Alex Smith #1 overall). I like John Beck a lot but he's got his shot now.I think Trent Edwards has some upside too, and Bill Walsh liked him a lot coming out of school so that says something.

That is what scares me about Stanton. MSU QBs usually flop in the NFL.