Best Ball (MFL10s, DRAFT, etc.) (2 Viewers)

[brun]

Got 1.1 at 1 today. Happy to get started on the new season.

 

[BoltBacker]

Got 1.1 at 1 today. Happy to get started on the new season.

No ADP data yet, so I am assuming Johnson?

 

[BroadwayG]

I've given up trying to format anything on these forums, but here is adp after one evening.


Johnson, David


PIT


TE


1.000000


1


Johnson, David


ARI


RB


1.500000


24


Bell, Le'Veon


PIT


RB


2.416666


24


Elliott, Ezekiel


DAL


RB


3.120000


25


Brown, Antonio


PIT


WR


3.760000


25


Beckham, Odell


NYG


WR


4.833333


24


Jones, Julio


ATL


WR


5.916666


24


Evans, Mike


TBB


WR


6.478260


23


Green, A.J.


CIN


WR


8.166666


24


Bryant, Dez


DAL


WR


11.000000


20


Freeman, Devonta


ATL


RB


11.882352


17


McCoy, LeSean


BUF


RB


12.473684


19


Hilton, T.Y.


IND


WR


12.684210


19


Gordon, Melvin


LAC


RB


13.375000


16


Cooper, Amari


OAK


WR


14.111111


18


Nelson, Jordy


GBP


WR


14.470588


17


Howard, Jordan


CHI


RB


15.200000


15


Gurley, Todd


LAR


RB


15.375000


16


Hopkins, DeAndre


HOU


WR


17.714285


14


Robinson, Allen


JAC


WR


18.416666


12


Ajayi, Jay


MIA


RB


18.750000


12


Thomas, Michael


NOS


WR


19.384615


13


Murray, DeMarco


TEN


RB


19.416666


12


Gronkowski, Rob


NEP


TE


19.500000


8


Rodgers, Aaron


GBP


QB


21.000000


1


Cook, Dalvin


FA


RB


22.000000


2


Cooks, Brandin


NOS


WR


22.428571


7


Miller, Lamar


HOU


RB


22.625000


8


Allen, Keenan


LAC


WR


22.750000


4


Ingram, Mark


NOS


RB


23.000000


2


Watkins, Sammy


BUF


WR


23.000000


7


Baldwin, Doug


SEA


WR


23.666666


3


Landry, Jarvis


MIA


WR


25.000000


1


Jeffery, Alshon


CHI


WR


26.000000


4


Kelce, Travis


KCC


TE


26.000000


1


Thomas, Demaryius


DEN


WR


27.000000


1


Hyde, Carlos


SFO


RB


27.250000


4


Adams, Davante


GBP


WR


28.000000


1


Fournette, Leonard


FA


RB


30.500000


2

 

[BoltBacker]

Wow, Antonio Brown at #4 kind of seems like a very, Very, VERY safe pick at #4.

Thanks for the data, BroadwayG.

 

[brun]

No ADP data yet, so I am assuming Johnson?

Either him or Bell. If Johnson this time, it will be Bell next time.

 

[Arodin]

Wonder how mad the guy who took Pitt TE David Johnson was when the next team took the Ari RB?

 

[BoltBacker]

I'm not a college football guy, but Dalvin Cook seems awfully high to me. Here's hoping he absolutely blows up at the combine and crawls into the early teens.

 

[starks]

Anybody sending a tier drop yet? I feel like I want top 7, maybe 8 picks and after that I don't feel as well. 

 

[brun]

No ADP data yet, so I am assuming Johnson?

Flipped a coin and took  Bell. 1,2,3 were Bell, Johnson and Zeke.

19+ hours in and still in the 1st round. I think it is weird that people are enthusiastic enough to join a league this early, but not enough to make a pick.

 

[BoltBacker]

Flipped a coin and took  Bell. 1,2,3 were Bell, Johnson and Zeke.

19+ hours in and still in the 1st round. I think it is weird that people are enthusiastic enough to join a league this early, but not enough to make a pick.

Meh, the same every year. I also think people like to have ADP available in terms of confirmation bias. I love drafting early but I feel like drafts are slower early, and maybe even slower than the sliver of time before ADP is available.

I find it interesting that AJ Green seems so locked into pick#8 in so many drafts I've seen so far. Anything surprise you early?

 

[BroadwayG]

Anybody sending a tier drop yet? I feel like I want top 7, maybe 8 picks and after that I don't feel as well. 

Top 8 are almost set in stone, with Evans and Green after the big 3 RB and WR. After that you have a mish mash of Dez, Hilton, Nelson, Cooper, McCoy, Freeman, Gordon at the turn.

ADP after night 2:

Spoiler

Johnson, David


ARI


RB


1.614285


70


Bell, Le'Veon


PIT


RB


2.200000


70


Elliott, Ezekiel


DAL


RB


2.814285


70


Brown, Antonio


PIT


WR


3.942857


70


Beckham, Odell


NYG


WR


4.928571


70


Jones, Julio


ATL


WR


6.071428


70


Evans, Mike


TBB


WR


6.685714


70


Green, A.J.


CIN


WR


8.200000


70


Bryant, Dez


DAL


WR


11.441176


68


Hilton, T.Y.


IND


WR


12.671875


64


Freeman, Devonta


ATL


RB


12.878787


66


McCoy, LeSean


BUF


RB


13.142857


63


Gordon, Melvin


LAC


RB


13.532258


62


Nelson, Jordy


GBP


WR


14.258064


62


Cooper, Amari


OAK


WR


14.269841


63


Howard, Jordan


CHI


RB


15.539682


63


Gurley, Todd


LAR


RB


16.288135


59


Robinson, Allen


JAC


WR


18.385964


57


Hopkins, DeAndre


HOU


WR


18.559322


59


Thomas, Michael


NOS


WR


18.622641


53


Ajayi, Jay


MIA


RB


20.425531


47


Murray, DeMarco


TEN


RB


20.772727


44


Gronkowski, Rob


NEP


TE


22.361702


47


Cooks, Brandin


NOS


WR


22.574468


47


Miller, Lamar


HOU


RB


25.236842


38


Allen, Keenan


LAC


WR


25.410256


39


Watkins, Sammy


BUF


WR


26.382352


34


Baldwin, Doug


SEA


WR


27.214285


42


Jeffery, Alshon


CHI


WR


28.194444


36


Hyde, Carlos


SFO


RB


28.628571


35


Cook, Dalvin


FA


RB


29.857142


35


Fournette, Leonard


FA


RB


30.794117


34


Thomas, Demaryius


DEN


WR


32.181818


33


Ingram, Mark


NOS


RB


32.321428


28


Landry, Jarvis


MIA


WR


32.967741


31


Adams, Davante


GBP


WR


35.900000


30


Kelce, Travis


KCC


TE


37.851851


27


Diggs, Stefon


MIN


WR


39.250000


28


Anderson, C.J.


DEN


RB


39.653846


26


Rodgers, Aaron


GBP


QB


40.206896


29


Ware, Spencer


KCC


RB


40.920000


25


Edelman, Julian


NEP


WR


41.400000


25


Crabtree, Michael


OAK


WR


43.400000


25


Reed, Jordan


WAS


TE


43.833333


24


Moncrief, Donte


IND


WR


45.318181


22


Tate, Golden


DET


WR


46.318181


22


Coleman, Tevin


ATL


RB


48.650000


20


Luck, Andrew


IND


QB


49.294117


17


Pryor, Terrelle


CLE


WR


49.352941


17


Sanders, Emmanuel


DEN


WR


49.421052


19


Benjamin, Kelvin


CAR


WR


49.769230


13


Rawls, Thomas


SEA


RB


50.166666


18


Henry, Derrick


TEN


RB


51.454545


11


Hill, Tyreek


KCC


WR


52.214285


14


Fitzgerald, Larry


ARI


WR


53.142857


14


Olsen, Greg


CAR


TE


55.083333


12


Davis, Corey


FA


WR


55.500000


10


Kelley, Rob


WAS


RB


56.250000


4


Blount, LeGarrette


NEP


RB


56.500000


2


Crowell, Isaiah


CLE


RB


56.818181


11


Parker, DeVante


MIA


WR


57.500000


10


Eifert, Tyler


CIN


TE


57.642857


14


Coleman, Corey


CLE


WR


58.272727


11


Matthews, Rishard


TEN


WR


58.600000


5


Prosise, C.J.


SEA


RB


58.600000


5


Cobb, Randall


GBP


WR


58.909090


11


Murray, Latavius


OAK


RB


59.000000


9


Shepard, Sterling


NYG


WR


59.500000


6


Peterson, Adrian


MIN


RB


59.888888


9


Crowder, Jamison


WAS


WR


60.200000


10


Brees, Drew


NOS


QB


60.833333


6


Matthews, Jordan


PHI


WR


60.916666


12


Graham, Jimmy


SEA


TE


61.000000


2


Perkins, Paul


NYG


RB


62.000000


2


Lacy, Eddie


GBP


RB


62.714285


7


Dixon, Kenneth


BAL


RB


63.666666


6


Abdullah, Ameer


DET


RB


64.750000


4


McCaffrey, Christian


FA


RB


64.800000


5


Decker, Eric


NYJ


WR


65.166666


6


Brady, Tom


NEP


QB


65.500000


6


Montgomery, Ty


GBP


RB


65.833333


6


Bryant, Martavis


PIT


WR


66.000000


7


Marshall, Brandon


NYJ


WR


66.500000


2


Williams, Tyrell


LAC


WR


68.250000


4


Wilson, Russell


SEA


QB


70.500000


4


Maclin, Jeremy


KCC


WR


70.500000


2


Henry, Hunter


LAC


TE


71.000000


3


Charles, Jamaal


KCC


RB


71.500000


2


Powell, Bilal


NYJ


RB


72.500000


2


Riddick, Theo


DET


RB


73.000000


4


Mixon, Joe


FA


RB


76.333333


3


Bernard, Giovani


CIN


RB


77.500000


2


Brown, John


ARI


WR


90.000000


2


Meredith, Cameron


CHI


WR


91.500000


2

 

[brun]

Meh, the same every year. I also think people like to have ADP available in terms of confirmation bias. I love drafting early but I feel like drafts are slower early, and maybe even slower than the sliver of time before ADP is available.

I find it interesting that AJ Green seems so locked into pick#8 in so many drafts I've seen so far. Anything surprise you early?

Green at 8 in this one too. After, In order, Beckham, Brown, Evans, Julio.

Jordy Nelson at 10 was a little earlier than I expected. No real big surprise yet though.

 

[BoltBacker]

Green at 8 in this one too. After, In order, Beckham, Brown, Evans, Julio.

Jordy Nelson at 10 was a little earlier than I expected. No real big surprise yet though.

I thought the same thing about Nelson, but a year removed from the injury and he was very productive last season. He may be getting to the point where he starts losing a step but he's one of the few WR's that doesn't need separation to make receptions. Any semblance of a running game(via draft/FA/health) and his TD #'s may take a hit though.

 

[Arodin]

Anybody sending a tier drop yet? I feel like I want top 7, maybe 8 picks and after that I don't feel as well. 

I have a strong sense of value through the top 8 or so, then there is a whole muddle of players I like about equally from 9-15.  Inconvenient since I'm sitting at the 8/9 turn in my only 8-team draft this year...

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Last year I thoroughly liked the top 20 or so players and if I got a really high pick, I enjoyed the turn. This year, after the top 8 I want to throw up in my mouth a bit. Started my first one three days ago (I'll do 10-13 total so I take my time). Got pick 11. Took Dez. Happy with that. Passed on Freeman who was taken right after. I took Gurley pick 14. I just couldn't bring myself to draft Hiwrad, Ajayi, Hopkins or Robinson there. So I went with pedigree LOL. Last year I loved the turn at the end as well and was always happy with the two guys I got at least at the time I drafted them. This is shaping up to be a very strange beginning at least until after the draft. I think drafters this early might be conservative. I may reach. The 5-6 turn is coming and I'm high on crowder and Prosise. Even though early ADP suggests I'd have a possible shot at them at 7-8....or not...

 

[BroadwayG]

I need some guinea pigs for my MFL10 web app. PM me if you're currently actively drafting and interested.

 

[BoltBacker]

 This is shaping up to be a very strange beginning at least until after the draft. I think drafters this early might be conservative. I may reach. The 5-6 turn is coming and I'm high on crowder and Prosise. Even though early ADP suggests I'd have a possible shot at them at 7-8....or not...

I was very high on Crowder, but re-signing Davis and going out and adding Pryor cools that enthusiasm at least a little.... and we still have to get through the draft. 

Prosise may take a hit if SEA adds one of the many FA's they brought in. Peterson/Lacy might be a small ding to Prosise, Murray slightly bigger ding imo, but if they sign Charles then Prosise drops close to DND territory. 

When you say that you "reach" does that include taking high risk guys late? Do you lean more toward rookie gambles late, or injury risk guys, or 30 something vets that may or may not have another year left?

 

[BoltBacker]

They also mention "some new formats planned as well" listed under the MFL 10 section of "2017 Enhancements". Crossing my fingers that this may mean some deep, deep MFL 10's this year. Some of their draft-and-go competition goes well beyond 20 rounds. It sounds like a lot of players until you actually get to week #15 and you see how almost all the teams have been decimated by injuries. 

http://home.myfantasyleague.com/2017-enhancements/

Anyone have any clue what this was about? I was hoping for either auction-mfl-10's or deeper draft-and-go-mfl-10's but still haven't heard about any new formats. At this time of year with so much uncertainty I could easily go for 30 rounds... and then maybe by the end of DEC I'd actually still have healthy/starting players to root for.

 

[BroadwayG]

Nothing formally announced, but all signs point to a 50/50 format where the kitty is divided equally among the top 5 or 6 teams.

I would really like an auction or higher roster count also.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

I was very high on Crowder, but re-signing Davis and going out and adding Pryor cools that enthusiasm at least a little.... and we still have to get through the draft. 

Prosise may take a hit if SEA adds one of the many FA's they brought in. Peterson/Lacy might be a small ding to Prosise, Murray slightly bigger ding imo, but if they sign Charles then Prosise drops close to DND territory. 

When you say that you "reach" does that include taking high risk guys late? Do you lean more toward rookie gambles late, or injury risk guys, or 30 something vets that may or may not have another year left?

I mean reach in terms of a half a round up to maybe two rounds? Prosise is already hitting early 5 so he's kind of becoming off the table for me there. I like him 5/6 turn. Crowder though has fallen a bit. I see him as  PPR machine and don't worry about Pryor at all. In fact it's probably good to give him underneath stuff. 

I peronally don't waste my time with Peterson or Charles and likely won't draft Lacy. Running backs released rarely go on to success. I'm focusing on Prosise when I can because he will catch the ball and any early down work is a bonus. I've shied away from rookies but did take Cook at 4.6 where he kind of fell to me and I opened that draft with Julio, Hilton and Baldwin. Other than that, no rookies until after the NFL draft unless cook falls. 

I'm sticking to my formula from last year with 2 QBs, 2 Ds. But this year, I may have more teams with three TEs. 

I took Josh Gordon once so far. So that's some risk. Later rounds leaning young upside if I can but I won't rule out guys like Boldin and Wright. Just got Eli Rodgers in one at pick 16 or 17. I like that a lot! In fact I see some nice home run value at WR late this year so I'm generally filling out RBS (6-7) a little earlier. I did take Gore once at like round 12 over James white and instantly regretted it...

 

[BoltBacker]

Nothing formally announced, but all signs point to a 50/50 format where the kitty is divided equally among the top 5 or 6 teams.

I would really like an auction or higher roster count also.

I realize auction is what they are working to improve so maybe that's being too wishful in thinking it may become available soon in the MFL10's, but I would guess it would be a great way to iron out the kinks to ensure it's working properly. Plus, the worst part about MFL10's is if you get stuck in a slow moving league your level of engagement drops. The great thing about an auction is you can check in on it whatever time works best for you, and you aren't holding up an entire draft if there are periods of the day you are unable(unwilling?) to check in. I think there is a big base of customers(especially the hard-core market that MFL caters to) that would be interested in that format.

The bigger roster would serve two purposes. Obviously, bigger roster removes luck from the equation which would be huge. It's not like people drafting FF teams in March can't come up with extra names to draft anyway. Secondly, I am pretty sure that QB/TE/DEF would get drafted much higher if the rosters were bigger because those are positions of relative scarcity. That would break up the monotony of your typical MFL10 that consists of drafting WR/RB for the first half of the draft. I feel like there is some sort of resistance to this by MFL but I'm not sure why that would be. Again, the hardcore FF customers are their bread and butter and those would likely be the customers that would enjoy the change the most. 

 

[BroadwayG]

Hooked up my old crusty looking scatter charts to all player names, and put a couple other things in for those that are using the app.

 

[BoltBacker]

Hooked up my old crusty looking scatter charts to all player names, and put a couple other things in for those that are using the app.

Those are cool, appreciate the scatter charts. 

The Sigma is interesting, plenty of rookies are high as to be expected but of the vets Michael Floyd is very high. Of the vets the all high-Sigma team:

QB B. Hoyer

RB J. Richard, D. Sproles

WR M. Floyd, J. Gordon, T. Boyd

TE J. Cook

DEF denver

Cook and Hoyer make sense, but it seems strange to me that Boyd and Sproles have such a high Sigma.

 

[BoltBacker]

If one of these sights came up with a simple Auction-and-go format I would leave the MFL 10's forever. 

Has anyone heard of Mark Stopa????

I get that we signed up for a slow draft but I'm in a league with this ###-clown and he's timed out three separate times. I should of known what was coming when he went on the clock of the draft at 9:37pm ET.... at the end of the FIRST ROUND and it took him until 12:13pm ET the next day to make his two picks. JFC. He has back to back picks and averages nearly 8 hours to solve the herculean task of picking two fantasy football players. 

I guess he thinks of himself as a fantasy football "expert" and takes to twitter gracing us a all with his knowledge. Maybe he's an "expert" compared to his ability to conduct himself in a professional manner in the court room according to these links that describe him as "boorish" and "disrespectful".....

http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/realestate/top-tampa-bay-foreclosure-defense-lawyer-mark-stopa-is-in-hot-water-again/2302342

https://mfi-miami.com/2016/11/mark-stopa-2/

http://flarecord.com/stories/511047656-florida-bar-issues-second-complaint-about-popular-florida-foreclosure-lawyer

http://www.loansafe.org/mark-stopa

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/stopa-law-firm/tampa-florida-33607/stopa-law-firm-mark-stopa-paid-in-advance-then-cant-be-reached-tampa-florida-1221617

So for the love of god, if you've ever been in a league with a complete d-bag(or just can't stand lawyers that give the profession a bad name) can you please contact Mark Stopa and tell him he's on the ####### clock(for potentially another ~16 HOUR SPAN) and despite the fact that I'm sure he's not actually "boorish" and "disrespectful" he's doing a pretty great job of impersonating those traits. Twitter(shocking), phone, smoke signals, sky writing, or any other mode of communication would likely be a great way to reach him. Then Mark Stopa can go back to writing and commenting on fantasy football since he apparently have little time interest in actually playing it and seem completely focused on obstructing the rest of us from enjoying the hobby you seem to know so much about. If you don't want to check in on a draft for DAYS at a time... pre-draft? Thanks, Mark!

 

[BroadwayG]

So glad I just use the app for everything except to join a new league. I would never know if a guy like him is in one of my leagues.

 

[BoltBacker]

So glad I just use the app for everything except to join a new league. I would never know if a guy like him is in one of my leagues.

In a way he's doing us a favor. He's ruining a draft 16 hours at a time. What a ####-head, but who is worse? The Mark Stopa's of the world or the people at MFL that won't simply put him on auto-draft at some point? It's funny, you keep hearing that MFL is making changes to improve their product but they really aren't making fundamental changes to make their product better. If some jack-### wanted to check out of an auction he signed up for it would be fine.... he could simply bid on the players that were still available when he came back. In a draft that same jack-### hold up the entire draft for two-thirds of a day if he has back to back picks.

At least the folks at MFL aren't taking money from people who will lose their home to foreclosure in the name of "helping" them, so they are better than that. But that's a pretty low bar.

I am curious if the people here have had better experiences at any other draft-and-go sites? Is their an auction-and-go site that I simply can't find? Anyone?

 

[brun]

In a way he's doing us a favor. He's ruining a draft 16 hours at a time. What a ####-head, but who is worse? The Mark Stopa's of the world or the people at MFL that won't simply put him on auto-draft at some point? It's funny, you keep hearing that MFL is making changes to improve their product but they really aren't making fundamental changes to make their product better. If some jack-### wanted to check out of an auction he signed up for it would be fine.... he could simply bid on the players that were still available when he came back. In a draft that same jack-### hold up the entire draft for two-thirds of a day if he has back to back picks.

At least the folks at MFL aren't taking money from people who will lose their home to foreclosure in the name of "helping" them, so they are better than that. But that's a pretty low bar.

I am curious if the people here have had better experiences at any other draft-and-go sites? Is their an auction-and-go site that I simply can't find? Anyone?

FWIW - I think an 8 hour time limit is as short as could be expected. If you time out twice in a row, MFL does put you on auto. Perhaps they could do the same based on the average time over some number of rounds, but it's not like they don't do anything.

Never heard of Stopa. Do have a guy in one of my current MFL10 drafts who timed out 4 times in the 1st 8 rounds. Finally he timed out 2 rounds in a row (8th & 9th) and went to auto. This guy really had no excuse. He has the 11/2 picks and I have the 12/1 picks. I have pre-drafted every round, meaning a couple of times he made his 11 pick, both my picks were immediately executed, then in a nano-second he goes away and times out. 

 

[BoltBacker]

FWIW - I think an 8 hour time limit is as short as could be expected. If you time out twice in a row, MFL does put you on auto. Perhaps they could do the same based on the average time over some number of rounds, but it's not like they don't do anything.

I guess I don't really understand why it's not three strikes and you're out.... which simply means you need to predraft instead of holding up an entire draft. Would that really be unreasonable?

On the 1st/2nd round turn he was on the clock for ~15 hours. I guess he was going for some serious strategy sessions. And he just took another ~15 hours, so according to MFL he's all good. I guess Mark Stopa is a "Fantasy football writer" for rotowire(?) when he isn't "helping" his clients in court....

http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/realestate/top-tampa-bay-foreclosure-defense-lawyer-mark-stopa-is-in-hot-water-again/2302342

https://mfi-miami.com/2016/11/mark-stopa-2/

http://flarecord.com/stories/511047656-florida-bar-issues-second-complaint-about-popular-florida-foreclosure-lawyer

http://www.loansafe.org/mark-stopa

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/stopa-law-firm/tampa-florida-33607/stopa-law-firm-mark-stopa-paid-in-advance-then-cant-be-reached-tampa-florida-1221617

@MarkStopa

 

[brun]

I guess I don't really understand why it's not three strikes and you're out.... which simply means you need to predraft instead of holding up an entire draft. Would that really be unreasonable?

On the 1st/2nd round turn he was on the clock for ~15 hours. I guess he was going for some serious strategy sessions. And he just took another ~15 hours, so according to MFL he's all good. I guess Mark Stopa is a "Fantasy football writer" for rotowire(?) when he isn't "helping" his clients in court....

http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/realestate/top-tampa-bay-foreclosure-defense-lawyer-mark-stopa-is-in-hot-water-again/2302342

https://mfi-miami.com/2016/11/mark-stopa-2/

http://flarecord.com/stories/511047656-florida-bar-issues-second-complaint-about-popular-florida-foreclosure-lawyer

http://www.loansafe.org/mark-stopa

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/stopa-law-firm/tampa-florida-33607/stopa-law-firm-mark-stopa-paid-in-advance-then-cant-be-reached-tampa-florida-1221617

@MarkStopa

Actually, I like your 3 strike suggestion and think it could work in conjunction with their existing 2 in row rule.

 

[BroadwayG]

App now allows you to change your ADP settings for base and comparison days as well as a minimum count filter

 

[DecafMaverick]

A lot of ruffled feathers here for drafts occurring in March.

 

[BoltBacker]

A lot of ruffled feathers here for drafts occurring in March.

I guess. What is the best month of the year to act like a ##### bag, anyway? You would hope February.

 

[BoltBacker]

Has anyone else noticed some ODD strategies this season in the 10's this year? In a league right now where one guy picked his first TE at pick 17.09. Another team in the same league where a guy has 9 WR's... SO FAR with two more picks to go. I don't think I've ever seen an 11 WR team but it would certainly be interesting to see how he finishes. And these weren't late picks invested in WR in a shotgun approach either. Two of his top three picks were WR's, and six of his top ten picks were WR. I like to think I try to swim against the stream a bit but I certainly have never gone that far. 

 

[BoltBacker]

By the way, checking back in with on-going soap opera that is mark stopa.... he did finish his draft. Finally. Only took 7 HOURS and 24 minutes every time he was on the clock so you have to give him a gold star for that. To be fair this is the roster he managed to forge out of gold concentrating so hard on those picks for all those hours....


Bradford, Sam MIN QB


235.4


-


15.12


Wilson, Russell SEA QB


294.6


-


5.12


Cook, Dalvin FA RB (R)


-


-


3.12


Lewis, Dion NEP RB (Q)


47.5


-


12.01


Rawls, Thomas SEA RB


68.1


-


7.12


Sims, Charles TBB RB (Q)


67.9


-


13.12


Brown, John ARI WR


99.2


-


10.01


Bryant, Martavis PIT WR (S)


-


-


8.01


Cooper, Amari OAK WR


218.4


-


1.12


Crowder, Jamison WAS WR


187.9


-


6.01


Dorsett, Phillip IND WR


89.2


-


20.01


Hogan, Chris NEP WR


122.2


-


19.12


Lee, Marqise JAC WR


160.0


-


14.01


Maclin, Jeremy KCC WR


100.2


-


9.12


Thomas, Michael NOS WR


224.1


-


2.01


Ebron, Eric DET TE


132.1


-


11.12


Njoku, David FA TE (R)


-


-


17.12


Reed, Jordan WAS TE


155.6


-


4.01


Jaguars, Jacksonville JAC Def


90.0


-


18.01


Vikings, Minnesota MIN Def


158.0


-


16.01



... and this guy apparently writes fantasy football articles. Maybe he should join a league where he can be on the clock for 12+ hours at a time. It's hard for me to imagine what his team would have looked like if he would have tried to keep it under 7 hours. I guess if Dalvin Cook is the MVP and..... well, and he can count for two roster spots each week. Here's to you mark stopa. May the next ambulance foreclosure you chase be far, far away from me. 

 

[BoltBacker]

Anyone else falling into the same old trap of getting over-invested in a few players? Every year I say THIS YEAR I'm not going to get too much exposure on a single player..... but I never follow through.

Some early guys I'm having a tough time laying off...Player(ADP)

Spencer Ware(43)

Drew Brees(71)

Mohamed Sanu(192)

Chris Ivory(202)

I'm not even a huge fan of Ivory, he's just been falling way below that ADP in drafts I've been in. Are we all 100% sure he won't be the starter in '17? I just got him with the last pick in round 20.

Who are some of the players that are landing on a lot of your rosters?

 

[BroadwayG]

Cobb and Jeremy Hill were way up on my board compared to others early on, they are my highest owned players along with my favorite 20th rounder Kerley. I've had an abnormal distribution so far with lots of late picks. While I've spread out my 1st and 2nds well, I've ended up with a lot of Kelce and CJ Anderson.  Been picking up a lot of the Black Unicorn in the mid-rounds and Tavon Austin before the Defenses start calling.

I really like Sanu, but for some reason have none of him, also think Ivory is currently a value play, but I could see him being a post-June 1 cut so I'm limiting how often I go there until the draft.

 

[BoltBacker]

Cobb and Jeremy Hill were way up on my board compared to others early on, they are my highest owned players along with my favorite 20th rounder Kerley. I've had an abnormal distribution so far with lots of late picks. While I've spread out my 1st and 2nds well, I've ended up with a lot of Kelce and CJ Anderson.  Been picking up a lot of the Black Unicorn in the mid-rounds and Tavon Austin before the Defenses start calling.

I really like Sanu, but for some reason have none of him, also think Ivory is currently a value play, but I could see him being a post-June 1 cut so I'm limiting how often I go there until the draft.

Interesting, thanks for the feedback.

I was higher on Cobb before they signed Bennett at TE. Interesting take on Kerley. Do you think Garcon is going to disappoint as the #1 WR? I know you were a big Garcon advocate last season, and I was to a lesser extent. 

It's POSSIBLE that Ivory could get cut, but I have a tough time believing it will happen. He's just played better at points in his career than I've seen Yeldon play thus far. Jags are also $50+mil under the cap so unless they draft either a very early RB or a pair of later RB's I think they just make their team worse for no reason. For that matter I just kind of believe in the talent on Ivory and there's even a chance that he could slide into a different RBBC situation with a better OL and/or higher scoring offense even if he were cut. All the RB's being drafted ~pick#200 have their warts but he seems to have the least to me. 

If JAX doesn't spend a pick on Fournette/Cook/Mixon..... would you still worry about Ivory? I suppose a Foreman/Perine/Conner pick would be a slight cause for concern in that they are power runners but I guess I've just seen Ivory be successful in that role in the NFL and I'm not sure if those guys will even be able to cut it in the league.

 

[BroadwayG]

Yes, Garcon was a favorite of mine last year in the 14-15 round range. He's probably priced appropriately at his ADP. But with all the turnover in SF, I'm skeptical year one will provide much value outside of Hyde. I'd much rather buy Ertz/Bennett or Gio/Hill/Woodhead/Powell or even a QB in his range and throw my 20th rounder at a 40/500/3 season out of Kerley.

Tavon Austin is my cutoff WR so far this year.

If there's no RB drafted in the first two days for Jax, then yes, that would ease any concerns about Ivory. I still think he's an excellent pick and a worthwhile risk, as I've taken him 7 times already.

 

[Longtucky Lemmings]

Being in Colorado I am no longer able to participate in MFLs - anyone know of any other draft and forget websites like this?

 

[Stinkin Ref]

Being in Colorado I am no longer able to participate in MFLs - anyone know of any other draft and forget websites like this?

I live in Co as well and was thinking about dipping my toe into the MFL10's for the first time......what is going on with the CO thing....?

 

[Longtucky Lemmings]

I live in Co as well and was thinking about dipping my toe into the MFL10's for the first time......what is going on with the CO thing....?

Their new Terms of Service this year (http://home.myfantasyleague.com/mfl10s-terms-of-service/) show some states that are not eligible.  Colorado is now one of them.  I was able to play last year.

 

[BoltBacker]

Being in Colorado I am no longer able to participate in MFLs - anyone know of any other draft and forget websites like this?

What would be ideal is a draft-and-go website that reacts to it's customers suggestions(like DEEP leagues and/or auctions) and accepts bit-coin. I guess 2017 is still too early to make this a reality?

 

[jabarony]

Yes, Garcon was a favorite of mine last year in the 14-15 round range. He's probably priced appropriately at his ADP. But with all the turnover in SF, I'm skeptical year one will provide much value outside of Hyde. I'd much rather buy Ertz/Bennett or Gio/Hill/Woodhead/Powell or even a QB in his range and throw my 20th rounder at a 40/500/3 season out of Kerley.

Tavon Austin is my cutoff WR so far this year.

If there's no RB drafted in the first two days for Jax, then yes, that would ease any concerns about Ivory. I still think he's an excellent pick and a worthwhile risk, as I've taken him 7 times already.

I'm all over Demaryius (sp?).  To the point where I'm stopping myself from taking him in many drafts even though I think he's the best player at that point.  I love the guy for "guaranteed" (knock on wood) production.  I just don't want an injury to 1 guy hurting 50%+ of my teams.

I have a decent amount of Gore, since he's, apparently, going to play forever.  And in the 10-12th rounds, why not?

And I have a decent # of Kamara if only because I think his price will rise post-draft.  I'm guessing Fournette/Cook/Mixon aren't going to rise too much after the draft, but Kamara, and to a certain extent Foreman, could jump if landing in the right situation.  If not, they'll probably be worth a 12th-14th, anyways, and no big loss.

 

[Borden]

I was boycotting (pouting actually) because I did so poorly last year. I didn't even place in any league. 

I went to see if I recognized any of the "most leagues" leader names and I have a $100 credit! Boycott over. 

 

[BoltBacker]

I was boycotting (pouting actually) because I did so poorly last year. I didn't even place in any league. 

I went to see if I recognized any of the "most leagues" leader names and I have a $100 credit! Boycott over. 

You can't lose with "found money". 

I am pretty surprised by a few of the drafts I've been in thus far. Tight drafting early but it loosens up a great deal in the second half of the draft. Some real wild darts being thrown imo. 

 

[BoltBacker]

And I have a decent # of Kamara if only because I think his price will rise post-draft.  I'm guessing Fournette/Cook/Mixon aren't going to rise too much after the draft, but Kamara, and to a certain extent Foreman, could jump if landing in the right situation.  If not, they'll probably be worth a 12th-14th, anyways, and no big loss.

I agree with you on Kamara. Disagree a bit on Mixon/Foreman, but LOVE the rookie talk. Thomas/Howard made a lot of people money last season(both were incredible values before the NFL draft). What are your opinions on the WR/TE's?

 

[Borden]

1.01 has now been on the clock for just about 5 hours. Good to see things are still the same. 

 

[BoltBacker]

1.01 has now been on the clock for just about 5 hours. Good to see things are still the same. 

Nah, you're being charitable. Seems to be even worse this season.

I haven't played in nearly as many this year as in the past and it's pretty common to have people timeout in the FIRST ROUND. You have "experts" on podcasts actually saying that they intentionally milk the entire 8 hour clock on the glimmer of hope that one of the two players they are considering just happens to have a news blurb tip them in one direction or another while they are on the clock! If you are really that desperately afraid of making a pick here's a tip..... just wait until after the 4th preseason game you jack-###. These $10 leagues are supposed to be for fun. I swear it's like their strategy is to slow-playing a game of solitaire so on the off chance a meteor hits and kills life as we know it they have less likelihood of losing the game of solitaire. Oooooh, you know all the angles don't you genius! I think these early leagues are mostly full of industry types and degenerate gamblers, but somehow I doubt that we degenerate gamblers are so lazy that we don't even check in on a draft for days at a time. Que the Don Knotts voice, "Well some of us are simply so busy we can't possible take the ten minutes to check in on our smart phones a day to... blah blah blah.... and yet we sign up for these leagues anyway." Sometimes I honestly think the "FF industry" is strangling every last breath of fun out of this hobby.

Really looking for something new. May give this a try although I have very little experience with it and don't know anyone that has tried it. After the Phenoms-debacle I'm always a bit skeptical these days....  https://dataforceff.com/   ... if anyone has any experience with the "Email Auction" format I'd love to hear it. Sounds like a lot less time waiting for a handful of people to make their pick..... and well, AUCTION!

 

[brun]

Nah, you're being charitable. Seems to be even worse this season.

I haven't played in nearly as many this year as in the past and it's pretty common to have people timeout in the FIRST ROUND. You have "experts" on podcasts actually saying that they intentionally milk the entire 8 hour clock on the glimmer of hope that one of the two players they are considering just happens to have a news blurb tip them in one direction or another while they are on the clock! If you are really that desperately afraid of making a pick here's a tip..... just wait until after the 4th preseason game you jack-###. These $10 leagues are supposed to be for fun. I swear it's like their strategy is to slow-playing a game of solitaire so on the off chance a meteor hits and kills life as we know it they have less likelihood of losing the game of solitaire. Oooooh, you know all the angles don't you genius! I think these early leagues are mostly full of industry types and degenerate gamblers, but somehow I doubt that we degenerate gamblers are so lazy that we don't even check in on a draft for days at a time. Que the Don Knotts voice, "Well some of us are simply so busy we can't possible take the ten minutes to check in on our smart phones a day to... blah blah blah.... and yet we sign up for these leagues anyway." Sometimes I honestly think the "FF industry" is strangling every last breath of fun out of this hobby.

Really looking for something new. May give this a try although I have very little experience with it and don't know anyone that has tried it. After the Phenoms-debacle I'm always a bit skeptical these days....  https://dataforceff.com/   ... if anyone has any experience with the "Email Auction" format I'd love to hear it. Sounds like a lot less time waiting for a handful of people to make their pick..... and well, AUCTION!

FWIW - I just created an account at dataforce. I have not actually joined any of their leagues yet.

Most of their rules are pretty clearly stated.

Payouts seem competitive, but there are separate fees depending on your deposit method and your state of residence. They don't factor in these fees when telling you what the return is (kinda sneaky IMO). These fees will inflate the payout percentage when compared to other sites. Prize money appears to be safe.

You can sign up for a league without paying. The league owners are not confirmed until everyone has paid. So the sign up status can show 15 people signed up for a 12 team league with 9 paid. Personally I prefer to have people pay when they sign up.

It looks like the lowest buy-in is $20.

 

[BoltBacker]

FWIW - I just created an account at dataforce. I have not actually joined any of their leagues yet.

Most of their rules are pretty clearly stated.

Payouts seem competitive, but there are separate fees depending on your deposit method and your state of residence. They don't factor in these fees when telling you what the return is (kinda sneaky IMO). These fees will inflate the payout percentage when compared to other sites. Prize money appears to be safe.

You can sign up for a league without paying. The league owners are not confirmed until everyone has paid. So the sign up status can show 15 people signed up for a 12 team league with 9 paid. Personally I prefer to have people pay when they sign up.

It looks like the lowest buy-in is $20.

That was one of the things I liked about the site.

Do you mind sharing what kind of league you signed up for? Let us know how quickly it fills. I would like to try an auction after the NFL draft and am hoping that even will drum up enough interest to fill a league.