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Footballguys dynasty rankings are over a month old. What are your favorite websites with current dynasty rankings? Most rankings I have been able to find a 1-2 months old minimum.
F&L and SSOG have really good rankings, also, mine are up to date as of yesterday.Footballguys dynasty rankings are over a month old. What are your favorite websites with current dynasty rankings? Most rankings I have been able to find a 1-2 months old minimum.
where are the current versions of these located?While more and more members here have started their own personal rankings, Fear & Loathing and SSOG are the only two who I've found credible. EBF is very knowledgeable about college players, but I don't think he has dynasty rankings.
SSOG: dynastyrankings.netF&L: Sons of the Tundrawhere are the current versions of these located?While more and more members here have started their own personal rankings, Fear & Loathing and SSOG are the only two who I've found credible. EBF is very knowledgeable about college players, but I don't think he has dynasty rankings.
F&L isn't posting rankings on Sons of the Tundra anymore. He's updating weekly on Rotoworld. It is within their season pass pay material. $15 well spent IMO.SSOG: dynastyrankings.netF&L: Sons of the Tundrawhere are the current versions of these located?While more and more members here have started their own personal rankings, Fear & Loathing and SSOG are the only two who I've found credible. EBF is very knowledgeable about college players, but I don't think he has dynasty rankings.
These rankings from Chris were posted on September 12th - over a month ago. Things change fast in dynasty, which is why his pay rankings on Rotoworld are updated each Thursday at noon on the Season Pass. Certainly it's a handy (free) link, but his finest work is the weekly variety, imo.F&L is no longer updating Sons of the Tundra. A more up-to-date version of his dynasty rankings can be found on Rotoworld.
Edit: despite what the guy above me said, you don't have to pay.
I don't know what kind of success F&L or SSOG have in dynasty leagues, but Go Deep knows his stuff. He's a little bullish sometimes but I'm sure the other two are as well.And Go Deep updates his stuff weekly. Plus if you have a problem or a question about one of his rankings he's more than willing to discuss it on his thread. Best stuff out there IMO.F&L and SSOG have really good rankings, also, mine are up to date as of yesterday.Footballguys dynasty rankings are over a month old. What are your favorite websites with current dynasty rankings? Most rankings I have been able to find a 1-2 months old minimum.
People are encouraged to discuss my rankings, too. I post a change log on our boards every Monday detailing every single player who has moved, exactly what that move consists of (both in terms of changes to the player's rank and changes to the player's value score), as well as my reasoning behind the move, and we'll get some lively discussions going in the change log threads and in the Dynasty Rankings Superthread here on FBGs about what moves/non-moves people agree or disagree with. Also, on our website, if you go to the "Archives" link, you can get a dynamic graph for every player showing how their rankings and value has changed every week. I'd recommend checking it out, because I'm always interested in hearing more feedback and hearing more opinions. If you follow me on twitter (link in my sig), I tweet every week when my rankings are updated with a link to the change log.Mr. Peterson said:I don't know what kind of success F&L or SSOG have in dynasty leagues, but Go Deep knows his stuff. He's a little bullish sometimes but I'm sure the other two are as well.And Go Deep updates his stuff weekly. Plus if you have a problem or a question about one of his rankings he's more than willing to discuss it on his thread. Best stuff out there IMO.F&L and SSOG have really good rankings, also, mine are up to date as of yesterday.Footballguys dynasty rankings are over a month old. What are your favorite websites with current dynasty rankings? Most rankings I have been able to find a 1-2 months old minimum.
Is there a link to the "Go Deep Rankings" ?I don't know what kind of success F&L or SSOG have in dynasty leagues, but Go Deep knows his stuff. He's a little bullish sometimes but I'm sure the other two are as well.And Go Deep updates his stuff weekly. Plus if you have a problem or a question about one of his rankings he's more than willing to discuss it on his thread. Best stuff out there IMO.F&L and SSOG have really good rankings, also, mine are up to date as of yesterday.Footballguys dynasty rankings are over a month old. What are your favorite websites with current dynasty rankings? Most rankings I have been able to find a 1-2 months old minimum.
post #2 in this thread takes you to Go Deep's thread which has a link to his rankingsIs there a link to the "Go Deep Rankings" ?I don't know what kind of success F&L or SSOG have in dynasty leagues, but Go Deep knows his stuff. He's a little bullish sometimes but I'm sure the other two are as well.And Go Deep updates his stuff weekly. Plus if you have a problem or a question about one of his rankings he's more than willing to discuss it on his thread. Best stuff out there IMO.F&L and SSOG have really good rankings, also, mine are up to date as of yesterday.Footballguys dynasty rankings are over a month old. What are your favorite websites with current dynasty rankings? Most rankings I have been able to find a 1-2 months old minimum.
*cough* homerism *cough* nepotism *cough*I don't know what kind of success F&L or SSOG have in dynasty leagues, but Go Deep knows his stuff. He's a little bullish sometimes but I'm sure the other two are as well.And Go Deep updates his stuff weekly. Plus if you have a problem or a question about one of his rankings he's more than willing to discuss it on his thread. Best stuff out there IMO.F&L and SSOG have really good rankings, also, mine are up to date as of yesterday.Footballguys dynasty rankings are over a month old. What are your favorite websites with current dynasty rankings? Most rankings I have been able to find a 1-2 months old minimum.
Pretty sure mine are about a week old.... see my signature.Footballguys dynasty rankings are over a month old. What are your favorite websites with current dynasty rankings? Most rankings I have been able to find a 1-2 months old minimum.
Hey Jeff - you like Alstott to come out of retirement, eh? http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/v...mp;howrecent=35Pretty sure mine are about a week old.... see my signature.Footballguys dynasty rankings are over a month old. What are your favorite websites with current dynasty rankings? Most rankings I have been able to find a 1-2 months old minimum.
Glad you like it. I use it all the time just to see where my rankings have gone on a particular guy.I think dynasty rankings require striking a fine balance between being too sensitive to information and not being sensitive enough to information. I think good dynasty rankings should be relatively stable... but at the same time, you have to be able to quickly recognize and admit when you were wrong and react dynamically to changing situations. If you dragged your feet on Arian Foster, you missed out on him. If you dragged your feet on Miles Austin, you missed out on him. Sometimes situations just call for dramatic weekly swings. Especially early in the season when we're seeing these guys for the first time all year.SSOG...I love the graph. LOVE it.It really gives me a feeling of the ranker. The only complaint that I have with dynasty rankings in general is that the values fluctuate too much from week to week from some rankers. Keep up the good work...all of you guys.
And if you had your head buried in the sand defending your R'berger > Rivers, 85 > Nicks, Hester > Britt "lines in the sand"? I think you'd admit that it's be hard to hear you through so much NOISE?Glad you like it. I use it all the time just to see where my rankings have gone on a particular guy.I think dynasty rankings require striking a fine balance between being too sensitive to information and not being sensitive enough to information. I think good dynasty rankings should be relatively stable... but at the same time, you have to be able to quickly recognize and admit when you were wrong and react dynamically to changing situations. If you dragged your feet on Arian Foster, you missed out on him. If you dragged your feet on Miles Austin, you missed out on him. Sometimes situations just call for dramatic weekly swings. Especially early in the season when we're seeing these guys for the first time all year.SSOG...I love the graph. LOVE it.It really gives me a feeling of the ranker. The only complaint that I have with dynasty rankings in general is that the values fluctuate too much from week to week from some rankers. Keep up the good work...all of you guys.
Well, only the smart guys that agree with you, apparently...People are encouraged to discuss my rankings, too.
Guess you found out you're not one of those smart people...Well, only the smart guys that agree with you, apparently...People are encouraged to discuss my rankings, too.
Yeah, it's apparently not feeding his ego that I tend to try and encourage him smell the mess he made. OOPS!Guess you found out you're not one of those smart people...Well, only the smart guys that agree with you, apparently...People are encouraged to discuss my rankings, too.
It's really not a big deal... I don't think taking it personal is at all necessary. I mean, I'm guessing you don't make a living at FF, so there's no need to take pride in it.Yeah, it's apparently not feeding his ego that I tend to try and encourage him smell the mess he made. OOPS!Guess you found out you're not one of those smart people...Well, only the smart guys that agree with you, apparently...People are encouraged to discuss my rankings, too.
I don't get what this has to do with the post you quoted. We were talking about my rankings graph- which exists explicitly so people can look up how I felt about a player in the past. In other words, the purpose of that graph is so that people can see my misses for themselves. I don't have a perfect track record, and I don't hide that fact in the slightest. You've hit on three rankings that look like whiffs right now. All three of them perfectly illustrate the point I was making, though- good rankings have to be stable, but you also have to be ready to admit when you were wrong and adjust accordingly. In all three instances, I've admitted I was wrong and adjusted accordingly.Besides, you're awfully smug about those three calls when they're a long way from decided. My ranking of Roethlisberger over Rivers wasn't so much because I was down on Rivers (he debuted at 5th in my inaugural rankings), it was more because I was higher on Roethlisberger than anyone else. And you know what? It's sure looking right now like everyone else was underrating Ben Roethlisberger. Ochocinco over Nicks was a terrible ranking and can conclusively be called at this point, but that doesn't mean the underlying principals were unsound- WRs over 30 are often underrated (Hines Ward, Derrick Mason, Donald Driver, Joey Galloway, Terrell Owens, etc), while young WRs with a decent production are often overrated (Dwayne Bowe, Michael Clayton, Lee Evans, Roy Williams, Braylon Edwards). I'm going to continue having 30+ year old WRs higher than almost anyone else on the internet going forward, because those 30+ year old WRs continue producing.I also noticed you conveniently failed to mention that I posted the following last October: "Trade for Darren McFadden. Now. Yes, the Raiders are a mess, and he's been a huge disappointment so far this year. I don't care."And you didn't mention how I said that Felix was going to remain a CoP back even when everyone and their mother was moving him into their top 12. And you didn't mention how I said everyone was sleeping on Roethlisberger, or how I called Michael Vick "the ideal dynasty QB3" back on August 9th. Or how I said that Charles was going to demonstrate that last year was no fluke, or how I moved Roddy White over Reggie Wayne in my dynasty rankings last November (and got all kinds of hell for it), or how I brought up Finley as the perfect dynasty buy-low weeks before he burst onto the dynasty radar.The fact is, I listen to everything that people tell me- every single thing. Sometimes it changes my mind, and sometimes it doesn't, but I always listen. Sometimes I would be a lot better off if I'd just listened to the crowd- such as with Nicks/Ochocinco. On the other hand, if I'd listened to the crowd, I would have been behind the curve on McFadden, Felix, Roethlisberger, Vick, Charles, White, and Finley, too. You can't point out the instances where my process has failed me without also bringing up all of the instances where it's exceeded my wildest expectations.And if you had your head buried in the sand defending your R'berger > Rivers, 85 > Nicks, Hester > Britt "lines in the sand"? I think you'd admit that it's be hard to hear you through so much NOISE?Glad you like it. I use it all the time just to see where my rankings have gone on a particular guy.I think dynasty rankings require striking a fine balance between being too sensitive to information and not being sensitive enough to information. I think good dynasty rankings should be relatively stable... but at the same time, you have to be able to quickly recognize and admit when you were wrong and react dynamically to changing situations. If you dragged your feet on Arian Foster, you missed out on him. If you dragged your feet on Miles Austin, you missed out on him. Sometimes situations just call for dramatic weekly swings. Especially early in the season when we're seeing these guys for the first time all year.
Uhmmm, not so long ago you made a prominent point about how I (Homer) should be ignored? Doesn't sound like "I (SSOG) listen" to me?Your above post strikes me like the gambling touts' puffery: pick your greatest hits (however minor they may be), hope no one holds you accountable for the major misses. The above calls that I referenced and criticized you for are calls I specifically disagreed with you on in F&L's thread, and was told I should be "ignored". They also happen to be much bigger issues than your marginal victories on less important topics.SSOG, I dig your rankings. I enjoy your analysis. I even enjoy you sticking to your guns. But when people disagree with you, maybe you really SHOULD listen?BTW, your biggest line in the sand YET has been the VINCENT JACKSON IS A DYNASTY STUD stance. THAT is gonna be FUN bumping again, and again, and AGAIN!I don't get what this has to do with the post you quoted. We were talking about my rankings graph- which exists explicitly so people can look up how I felt about a player in the past. In other words, the purpose of that graph is so that people can see my misses for themselves. I don't have a perfect track record, and I don't hide that fact in the slightest. You've hit on three rankings that look like whiffs right now. All three of them perfectly illustrate the point I was making, though- good rankings have to be stable, but you also have to be ready to admit when you were wrong and adjust accordingly. In all three instances, I've admitted I was wrong and adjusted accordingly.Besides, you're awfully smug about those three calls when they're a long way from decided. My ranking of Roethlisberger over Rivers wasn't so much because I was down on Rivers (he debuted at 5th in my inaugural rankings), it was more because I was higher on Roethlisberger than anyone else. And you know what? It's sure looking right now like everyone else was underrating Ben Roethlisberger. Ochocinco over Nicks was a terrible ranking and can conclusively be called at this point, but that doesn't mean the underlying principals were unsound- WRs over 30 are often underrated (Hines Ward, Derrick Mason, Donald Driver, Joey Galloway, Terrell Owens, etc), while young WRs with a decent production are often overrated (Dwayne Bowe, Michael Clayton, Lee Evans, Roy Williams, Braylon Edwards). I'm going to continue having 30+ year old WRs higher than almost anyone else on the internet going forward, because those 30+ year old WRs continue producing.I also noticed you conveniently failed to mention that I posted the following last October: "Trade for Darren McFadden. Now. Yes, the Raiders are a mess, and he's been a huge disappointment so far this year. I don't care."And you didn't mention how I said that Felix was going to remain a CoP back even when everyone and their mother was moving him into their top 12. And you didn't mention how I said everyone was sleeping on Roethlisberger, or how I called Michael Vick "the ideal dynasty QB3" back on August 9th. Or how I said that Charles was going to demonstrate that last year was no fluke, or how I moved Roddy White over Reggie Wayne in my dynasty rankings last November (and got all kinds of hell for it), or how I brought up Finley as the perfect dynasty buy-low weeks before he burst onto the dynasty radar.The fact is, I listen to everything that people tell me- every single thing. Sometimes it changes my mind, and sometimes it doesn't, but I always listen. Sometimes I would be a lot better off if I'd just listened to the crowd- such as with Nicks/Ochocinco. On the other hand, if I'd listened to the crowd, I would have been behind the curve on McFadden, Felix, Roethlisberger, Vick, Charles, White, and Finley, too. You can't point out the instances where my process has failed me without also bringing up all of the instances where it's exceeded my wildest expectations.And if you had your head buried in the sand defending your R'berger > Rivers, 85 > Nicks, Hester > Britt "lines in the sand"? I think you'd admit that it's be hard to hear you through so much NOISE?Glad you like it. I use it all the time just to see where my rankings have gone on a particular guy.I think dynasty rankings require striking a fine balance between being too sensitive to information and not being sensitive enough to information. I think good dynasty rankings should be relatively stable... but at the same time, you have to be able to quickly recognize and admit when you were wrong and react dynamically to changing situations. If you dragged your feet on Arian Foster, you missed out on him. If you dragged your feet on Miles Austin, you missed out on him. Sometimes situations just call for dramatic weekly swings. Especially early in the season when we're seeing these guys for the first time all year.
I put you on ignore not because you disagreed with me, but because you were a tool. Plenty of people disagree with me on a weekly basis, but they do it by presenting cogent and coherent arguments and not by calling me or my leaguemates idiots for daring to disagree with your obviously brilliant player valuations. Lots of people disagree with me on a weekly basis without getting put on time-out by the moderators.As for the rest of it... I don't need to defend my record. The reason I have archives of my rankings is so that people can see for themselves. All of my rankings this season have been archived and are available for viewing. All of my posts in the dynasty rankings thread (all 1100+ of them) are sitting there unedited so that people can go back and see my track record. I don't claim to be perfect. Hell, I don't even claim to be the best ever. All I claim is that I've got nothing to hide. If you want to dig up all of my bad predictions and bump them "again, and again, and AGAIN!", then be my guest. There certainly won't be a shortage of bad predictions for you to bump. With that said, I invite you at any time to try doing what I do. We'll see how many of your predictions start getting bumped.Uhmmm, not so long ago you made a prominent point about how I (Homer) should be ignored? Doesn't sound like "I (SSOG) listen" to me?Your above post strikes me like the gambling touts' puffery: pick your greatest hits (however minor they may be), hope no one holds you accountable for the major misses. The above calls that I referenced and criticized you for are calls I specifically disagreed with you on in F&L's thread, and was told I should be "ignored". They also happen to be much bigger issues than your marginal victories on less important topics.SSOG, I dig your rankings. I enjoy your analysis. I even enjoy you sticking to your guns. But when people disagree with you, maybe you really SHOULD listen?BTW, your biggest line in the sand YET has been the VINCENT JACKSON IS A DYNASTY STUD stance. THAT is gonna be FUN bumping again, and again, and AGAIN!
Pretty inexcusable that they FBG have prioritized this so low. I think Pasq has updated in the last 2 weeks, but this is not something that should be left untouched. A lot has changed, trade deadline is approaching...it's sort of a big deal to have these updated regularly.Footballguys dynasty rankings are over a month old. What are your favorite websites with current dynasty rankings? Most rankings I have been able to find a 1-2 months old minimum.