Best value at WR (1 Viewer)

[valhallan]

How about the pass happy Saints. David Patten can be had very, very late in redraft leagues this year. He should start out the season as WR2 and if Colston or Bush have health issues he could easily move up to a 1a or 1b option for the Saints..02

Possibly. There's also Robert Meachem to worry about. In deep leagues, he could be had for next to nothing and the Saints most likely would prefer him as their #2 if he can handle it.

 

[BusMan]

If Chad Johnson falls into WR2 territory, he starts getting some value. There's risk there for sure, but not too many WR2 have Top 5 upside.

 

[Gopher State]

Here's the guys that I be watching pre-season as I think they represent excellent value

Curry Oakland, I think he ends up with more rec's then Walker

Wilford MIA, no disrespect to Ginn, but at this time I think Wilford is the best WR on the FIN's, I smell 850 yards and 7 TD's for Wilford, on a team that will be forced to pass

Robinson ATL, I think he end up starting opp White, a burner, who average almost 12 yards a catch in his rookie year I see nice upside here, with some long passes his way

Booker Chic, I see lots of short rec's, from a team that again should be passing alot, maybe 6/7 td's for Marty?

Gage Tenn, I like what he did last year, and see him improving enough this year to make him a great late value pick

Lots of good opinions in this post

 

[TheWick]

Isaac Bruce - he is projected to have 48 catches...if he starts 16 games he'll have 75+ in that offense. Also will have 2 guaranteed huge games when they face St.Louis this year.

Santana Moss - Currently about WR28, could be top 20 in new offense.

Nate Burleson - Running game is questionable at best in SEA, they will throw alot again this year.

Drew Bennet - WR52 with 70 catch potential. Offensive line should hold up better...if they do offense will be much better.

Donte Stallworth - WR58 Jurevicous not looking so good...even as 3rd option in that offense should put up decent numbers.

Robert Meachem - who knows but at his current ADP he's worth a shot.

 

[Toads]

 

[Marc Levin]

Bryant Johnson will be the #1 WR in a Mike Martz offense and can be had in the 10th round. That's mega value.

Clayton what would make you think that Johnson will be the #1 WR in San Francisco over Isaac Bruce?Bruce has worked with Martz before; knows the plays and routes as well as the coach.Johnson had his moments down here but often was very inconsistent; ran the wrong routes and let's be kind and say has some tendencies in common with the family pet.

from the matt barrows transcript with lammey and bloom:And I'll tell you, the guy who has looked the best to me so far has been Bryant Johnson. He's a big target. Alex Smith in particular loves to throw to him. If there is one guy who is catching the bulk of balls in these practices, it's Bryant Johnson. He's looked every bit the part the number 1 receiver so far.

IMO, that is TC chatter.There are two major problems here - 1) QB; 2) Ike knows what Martz is trying to do and has a good track record.Johnson's problem has always been his hands (Just over 50% catch to target ratio). Ike catches closer to 60% of his targets. until I see more reliability from Johnson and/or better passing from the QB spot, my money is on Ike in this offense.

 

[Marc Levin]

does anyone else see Joey Galloway as extreme value once again? Yes, I know he is older than many on this board. But, who else can the Bucs rely on to make plays in the passing game?

JT - Dodds and I were talking about Galloway the other night. He likes him, I don't. We both had good reasons for our beliefs, but I am standing my ground that he is going to be just so-so. I recently completed the low side face off of Galloway that should be released this wknd.

No it won't - I am on the high side faceoff and haven't written it yet.And I will destroy you.

 

[FUBAR]

Will Franklin - Ooof. Devard Darling and Jeff Webb? Meh. Franklin is only a rookie, but opportunity here is the key. Franklin might be enough of a playmaker and athlete to beat out those two and earn a starting job immediately or soon into the season. He's another guy that could be a waiver gem, or a last round flyer. The Chiefs QB looks dreadful right now, but Bowe did alright last year and with Bowe/Gonzo/LJ being the focus of defenses there is room here for someone like Franklin to be a surprise.Tennessee WR - Like the Jags, the Titans want to run the ball a LOT. VY isn't a WR-friendly QB yet and Alge Crumpler's addition to the team doesn't send warm fuzzies to me with regards to the # of targets or fantasy production that is likely to come from this position. That said, I'm keeping my eye on a couple of deep sleepers here - Biren Ealy and Paul Williams. Rookie Lavelle Hawkins bears watching, too. First, they have to beat players who have produced in spots like Roydell Williams and Brandon Jones, but both of those guys aren't healthy. McCareins, to me, seems like he's holding a spot to keep it warm for one of these other guys to emerge. I don't see him regaining the Heimerdinger magic he had in his first tenure with the team.

I like your other picks, but I just can't get excited about the WR2 (3rd option in the passing game) in KC. Nor can I get excited about the TN WRs aside from maybe Roydell in most leagues - Gage has some value in deep leagues, and the others might do ok in best ball.I really like the Cribbs and Hester picks, Cribbs slightly more so just because he has a better QB (2 QBs?). Hester could be HUGE in best ball but I don't think he'll be consistent enough to start in other leagues. Chad Jackson is one guy I'll be pursuing in all leagues this year, provided he keeps his ADP of almost-undrafted.

 

[Marc Levin]

How about the pass happy Saints. David Patten can be had very, very late in redraft leagues this year. He should start out the season as WR2 and if Colston or Bush have health issues he could easily move up to a 1a or 1b option for the Saints..02

Possibly. There's also Robert Meachem to worry about. In deep leagues, he could be had for next to nothing and the Saints most likely would prefer him as their #2 if he can handle it.

Guessing which Saints receiver is the #2 there is the issue.

 

[the spanker]

does anyone else see Joey Galloway as extreme value once again? Yes, I know he is older than many on this board. But, who else can the Bucs rely on to make plays in the passing game?

JT - Dodds and I were talking about Galloway the other night. He likes him, I don't. We both had good reasons for our beliefs, but I am standing my ground that he is going to be just so-so. I recently completed the low side face off of Galloway that should be released this wknd.

No it won't - I am on the high side faceoff and haven't written it yet.And I will destroy you.

Love it

 

[gianmarco]

Using FBG rankings:Kevin Curtis--I like him over Chambers, Cotchery, Roddy White, and probably Jennings and Calvin Johnson. Love him as a 3rd WR. I figure whenever McNabb starts, he puts up good numbers.Reggie Williams--Designated TD catcher in Jax. Don't like the player, but like his role. He's like Leroy Hoard or something.Arnaz Battle/Jason Hill---Hoping to grab the next Mike Furrey here.Roydell Williams--Best of the lot in TEN, I think.

Yikes....gotta disagree with a few of these for sure.Kevin Curtis? This guys was the model of inconsistency. He cracked 10 pts a total of 4 times all last year and scored an insane % of his points in his 1 monster game (28% of TOTAL pts in 1 game). Roydell's injury may keep him out a substantial amount of time. So far, reports are that his recovery is going very slowly and it's not as if he had a good grip on the starting job.I do like Reggie Williams and Battle/Hill, though.

 

[Yitbos69]

Without 1st reading this thread I would say from a value stand point these 4 Starting WR's are a OUTSTANDING value at their current ADP. Each one should put up numbers that exceed their draft positions.

110 Sidney Rice WR 41

111 Vincent Jackson WR 42

117 Reggie Williams WR 45

120 Bryant Johnson WR 46

 

[Bob Henry]

How about the pass happy Saints. David Patten can be had very, very late in redraft leagues this year. He should start out the season as WR2 and if Colston or Bush have health issues he could easily move up to a 1a or 1b option for the Saints..02

A ripe opportunity for sure. I like Patten, too, but with a year of the NFL under his belt, I might take my chances with Meachem this year and roll the dice instead of Patten. I've teeter tottered a bit in my projections there and it's kind of a 50/50 thing IMO right now as to which one (or if both) will be worthwhile this year.

 

[GECKO]

How about the pass happy Saints. David Patten can be had very, very late in redraft leagues this year. He should start out the season as WR2 and if Colston or Bush have health issues he could easily move up to a 1a or 1b option for the Saints..02

A ripe opportunity for sure. I like Patten, too, but with a year of the NFL under his belt, I might take my chances with Meachem this year and roll the dice instead of Patten. I've teeter tottered a bit in my projections there and it's kind of a 50/50 thing IMO right now as to which one (or if both) will be worthwhile this year.

Agreed, camp can't arive soon enough. In early redarfts both can be had as WR 5-6ish very late, say 15th, 16th or 16th, 17th rounds

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Derrick Mason is money in the bank, relative to his ADP..I'm not sure where FBG's lists him, but its probably nowhere near the WR top 25..the guy is a stud, a 5-yr avg of 89/1076/5..Numbers that I just don't see coming from the likes of Arnaz Battle, Darrell Jackson, Burleson, Engram, Reggie Williams, Santana Moss, Santonio Holmes, etc..Mason is probably the best value at WR .

Don't you think that Heap and Clayton being out for most of the season had a lot to do with him catching 100 balls?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Of the Big 12 which is Randy Moss to Plaxico Burress and are ranked 1-12...Steve Smith at #9 and Marques Colston at #11 are the only two that i think offer any real value. Are you telling me I can get Steve Smith and Colston on the turn at 2/3? WOW!!! Colston actually had his numbers go up last year from his rookie year. And Steve Smith had as bad a year as he could have but this year he gets back his QB1, a QB2 in Moore that is looking better, a WR2 and a WR3 to better take the pressure off him, an upgrade at OL, and another high profile rookie RB...Smith could easily land int he top 5 along with Colston.

The next 12 or so...not a lot of value but I think most of the rankings are pretty staright forward that Dodds has up, I don't see anything that is screaming value. I like Welker and Galloway as they are the most likely to produce.

25-36(WR3)...Driver(27), Coles(30), S.Moss(33), those are 3 WR that could easily end up as WR2 for a lot of owners if not better.

37-48(WR4)...Bryant Johnson(48) I love the value of locking up a potential WR1 in a Mike Martz offense.

Give me Smith/Colston on the 2/3 turn, Driver or SMoss in the 5th or 6th, and I'll take bryant Johnson somewhere in the 9th-10th round...that gives me a very solid WR1-4, and I still have the 1st and 4th for RB, 5th or 6th to grab a QB, 7th and 8th to grab more RB as there would be value there.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Without 1st reading this thread I would say from a value stand point these 4 Starting WR's are a OUTSTANDING value at their current ADP. Each one should put up numbers that exceed their draft positions.110 Sidney Rice WR 41 111 Vincent Jackson WR 42 117 Reggie Williams WR 45 120 Bryant Johnson WR 46

Rice has no QB to throw it to him and they signed Berrian to a big deal...where is his place in that run 1st offense?VJax? He is behind Chambers and Gates for targets, you gotta believe that.Reggie Williams? Think he can post 10 TD and less than 50 receptions again?Bryant Johnson is the correct answer here...I think he has way more upside than the other 3 in '08...IMO of course.

 

[a_troll00]

Without 1st reading this thread I would say from a value stand point these 4 Starting WR's are a OUTSTANDING value at their current ADP. Each one should put up numbers that exceed their draft positions.

110 Sidney Rice WR 41

111 Vincent Jackson WR 42

117 Reggie Williams WR 45

120 Bryant Johnson WR 46

Rice has no QB to throw it to him and they signed Berrian to a big deal...where is his place in that run 1st offense?VJax? He is behind Chambers and Gates for targets, you gotta believe that.

Reggie Williams? Think he can post 10 TD and less than 50 receptions again?

Bryant Johnson is the correct answer here...I think he has way more upside than the other 3 in '08...IMO of course.

Who became River's big weapon in all three playoff games?

 

[Tau837]

Kevin Curtis? This guys was the model of inconsistency. He cracked 10 pts a total of 4 times all last year and scored an insane % of his points in his 1 monster game (28% of TOTAL pts in 1 game).

I had him, and he was not as good as his year end numbers IMO.

 

[Yitbos69]

Without 1st reading this thread I would say from a value stand point these 4 Starting WR's are a OUTSTANDING value at their current ADP. Each one should put up numbers that exceed their draft positions.110 Sidney Rice WR 41 111 Vincent Jackson WR 42 117 Reggie Williams WR 45 120 Bryant Johnson WR 46

Rice has no QB to throw it to him and they signed Berrian to a big deal...where is his place in that run 1st offense?VJax? He is behind Chambers and Gates for targets, you gotta believe that.Reggie Williams? Think he can post 10 TD and less than 50 receptions again?Bryant Johnson is the correct answer here...I think he has way more upside than the other 3 in '08...IMO of course.

I like Rice the least of the four on my list mainly because of the reason you stated...????? at the QB position But a still see him as a value at his ADPVJax really came on at the end of the year in 2007 with 114/1, 93/1, and 93/0.....not saying he is going to light the world on fire just that he is a value.I don't think that Reggie can post 10 TD on 50 receptions again. What I do think is that Reggie will post more like 80-90 receptions as the Jags #1 WRI also think Bryant Johnson is the best of the bunch...I see Johnson as the #1 target in SF in a Martz system

 

[greyone]

Of the Big 12 which is Randy Moss to Plaxico Burress and are ranked 1-12...Steve Smith at #9 and Marques Colston at #11 are the only two that i think offer any real value. Are you telling me I can get Steve Smith and Colston on the turn at 2/3? WOW!!! Colston actually had his numbers go up last year from his rookie year. And Steve Smith had as bad a year as he could have but this year he gets back his QB1, a QB2 in Moore that is looking better, a WR2 and a WR3 to better take the pressure off him, an upgrade at OL, and another high profile rookie RB...Smith could easily land int he top 5 along with Colston. The next 12 or so...not a lot of value but I think most of the rankings are pretty staright forward that Dodds has up, I don't see anything that is screaming value. I like Welker and Galloway as they are the most likely to produce.25-36(WR3)...Driver(27), Coles(30), S.Moss(33), those are 3 WR that could easily end up as WR2 for a lot of owners if not better.37-48(WR4)...Bryant Johnson(48) I love the value of locking up a potential WR1 in a Mike Martz offense.Give me Smith/Colston on the 2/3 turn, Driver or SMoss in the 5th or 6th, and I'll take bryant Johnson somewhere in the 9th-10th round...that gives me a very solid WR1-4, and I still have the 1st and 4th for RB, 5th or 6th to grab a QB, 7th and 8th to grab more RB as there would be value there.

How about wrs after round 8/9? For conversations sake. Im talking outside 48 into the 60's.