banjomatic
Footballguy
Any thoughts on either one over the other?
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Better free site: ESPN or Yahoo? (1 Viewer)
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The Man with the Plan
Footballguy
I like ESPN. They have the live scoring and they just look nicer. Yahoo leagues look ghetto.
Eviloutsider
Footballguy
I think the complete opposite.
Saint
Footballguy
and free live scoring this yearbanjomatic
Footballguy
Looks like both offer free live scoring. Any preference with other aspects like: user interface, ability to customize, scoring issues, etc?and free live scoring this year
Yahoo PLUS ($130) is equivalent to the free service from ESPN. The free yahoo service does not offer a proper waiver system so in my opinion it is not usable.
If you compare Yahoo PLUS to ESPN, I'd say the yahoo interface is a bit easier to use for non-computer types and they offer a bit more in the way of scoring options. ESPN allows you to do auctions and more cutomizations to your league page (youtube videos, etc - if you're into that kind of thing). Other than that, most of the differences are cosmetic and come down to personal preference. I've found both services to be very reliable.
For me, there's nothing that Yahoo offers to justify $130 vs $0 for ESPN.
If you compare Yahoo PLUS to ESPN, I'd say the yahoo interface is a bit easier to use for non-computer types and they offer a bit more in the way of scoring options. ESPN allows you to do auctions and more cutomizations to your league page (youtube videos, etc - if you're into that kind of thing). Other than that, most of the differences are cosmetic and come down to personal preference. I've found both services to be very reliable.
For me, there's nothing that Yahoo offers to justify $130 vs $0 for ESPN.
Wrigley
Footballguy
What is wrong with yahoo's waiver system?
Yahoo PLUS is fine, but in free yahoo leagues, guys only go on waivers when someone drops them from their team, they do not go on waivers during/after the games on Sunday, any unclaimed player remains a free agent during the games. This means that last year when Tom Brady went down, the first guy to his computer got to pick up Cassel. With a proper waiver system, Cassel would be on waivers until Tuesday and would go to the person with the highest waiver priority that wanted him. The person that claimed him would then be assigned the lowest waiver priority. So there's a trade off to picking up Cassel in that situation.
billyjohnson
Footballguy
Yahoo Plus is $30...not $130. Have you ever even used yahoo plus?? <_<
Wrigley
Footballguy
Don't know if this is true.I'm pretty sure our Yahoo allows us to close the waiver wire from the start of the first game of the week, until the end of the Monday night game. Then I'm fairly certain, that all unrostered players are placed on waivers. Then waivers are run through on Thursday morning.from Yahoo
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darthraider
Footballguy
Fleaflicker seems pretty good (And free) unless you are just hell bent on using one of the 2 mentioned above, check it out.
http://www.fleaflicker.com/logout.do
http://www.fleaflicker.com/logout.do
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pollardsvision
Footballguy
ESPN. And it's not close, in my experience.
-ESPN looks better and is more comfortable to navigate. I'm shocked that Yahoo hasn't completely redone the look of the site. We moved a dynasty baseball league from there based on the look alone. It's horrible.
-ESPN has free auctions (Does Yahoo even do auctions?)
-Yahoo waivers are annoying.
-The ability to customize is roughly equal, from what I remember. (Both are lacking in that area).
-Apparently, Yahoo now offers free live-scoring, but that doesn't make up for years of ripping people off with that StatTracker while ESPN has always done it for free.
-ESPN looks better and is more comfortable to navigate. I'm shocked that Yahoo hasn't completely redone the look of the site. We moved a dynasty baseball league from there based on the look alone. It's horrible.
-ESPN has free auctions (Does Yahoo even do auctions?)
-Yahoo waivers are annoying.
-The ability to customize is roughly equal, from what I remember. (Both are lacking in that area).
-Apparently, Yahoo now offers free live-scoring, but that doesn't make up for years of ripping people off with that StatTracker while ESPN has always done it for free.
FF EGGHEAD
Footballguy
This is TRUE and it is FREE! It also has FAAB Waiver options, Live Scoring and is simply the BEST, IMO> PLUS is only $30 amd I think it offers prizes and draft advice?Save your $30 amd use the FREE Yahoo, you won't be disappointed.
If this is the case, then it was added this year, last year it was not available in free leagues. One league that I am in switched from free yahoo to yahoo PLUS this year for this exact reason.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
As far as I know, ESPN doesn't offer decimal scoring. That's enough for me to use Yahoo right there.
footballnerd
Footballguy
Free Yahoo offers bidding waivers now and is more customizable in scoring than ESPN. ESPN keeps you to 1 point per 25 yds passing, while yahoo allows you to set it to what ever you want.
You can kind of do it - for example we give QBs 1 point per 5 completions. But I know what you mean.
Thanks for the info on the waivers. Now they just need to add Auctions!
footballnerd
Footballguy
Free Agent waiver wire protection is for "cats" in my opinion. I understand giving everyone a chance at a player that was dropped, but if the guy has been a free agent for a week then everyone had a chance to pick him up. The guy who has Brady should of had Cassel to back him up. Plus most sites have mobile access now by phone, yall just got caught slippin.Free Yahoo offers mobile access by the way.
We'll have a agree to disagree on that one, not everyone wants to watch every game ready to make FA pickups at any second.
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
This was true last year, but in the future, you really should find these things out before you post things as fact. Yahoo is the best free site out there now, since they have completely revamped what is free for the upcoming season.
edit to add, makes it more fun IMHOtotally, been saying this for years and been taken a ribbing.
footballnerd
Footballguy
That's a fair point. There are mobile updates too, but depends if you want your phone blowing up all the time.
My bad, my info was based on last year and the fact that the commish in one of my leagues switched to yahoo PLUS this year because of the waivers in the free version. Also, claiming that Yahoo is the best free site is equally as ignorant... there is still the issue of no Auctions and lack of customizations is still an issue for some.
It's not an auction site. What customizations is it lacking?
It's a fantasy football site, auctions are a part of fantasy football.Some guys like the customizable front page, this ranges from MFL that lets you do pretty much anything (not something I want personally) to ESPN that lets you customize the league page within some tight confines.
bentley
Footballguy
I think the Fleaflicker interface is kinda lame, but I prefer the actual software better than either Yahoo or ESPN. Free live scoring. More customization in terms of scoring and rosters. I also like that you can create your own schedule (I honestly don't know if the others offer that; Yahoo didn't years ago when I used it).
Pictus Cat
Footballguy
I commish in ESPN & Yahoo every year.
They both have their issues, so get the site that caters to you.
ESPN for
Auctions
Graphic Customization
IDP preranked
Yahoo
Ease of use (according to my league members using both)
Online draft reliability
Just my personal opinion.
I use both and like them.
I wish they would both add the ability to have multiple divisions with all the NFL universe in each division.
It would be nice to keep everyone in one league instead of splitting them up.
MFL does it, but my leagues are resistant to change.
They both have their issues, so get the site that caters to you.
ESPN for
Auctions
Graphic Customization
IDP preranked
Yahoo
Ease of use (according to my league members using both)
Online draft reliability
Just my personal opinion.
I use both and like them.
I wish they would both add the ability to have multiple divisions with all the NFL universe in each division.
It would be nice to keep everyone in one league instead of splitting them up.
MFL does it, but my leagues are resistant to change.
I am currently in leagues on both and to me it's ESPN by a mile. ESPN looks like a pay site and offers just about all the same customizability as a pay site. When playing on Yahoo I feel like a highschool computer science kid designed the site sometime in the 1990's. It feels cheap and doesn't offer nearly as many tools for inseason management. For full disclosure my main league is on cbssports.com as one of their paid comissioner leagues and I think it's well worth it for what they offer, but if you're going the free route I'd go with ESPN and not look back.
SSOG
Moderator
Came to post this. I was in two leagues with the same core of guys. Three years ago, I started another league with the same guys on Fleaflicker. Today, all three leagues have migrated to fleaflicker. I'm a fan of the whole "no frills, no-nonsense" presentation, and they offer unmatched customizability (as well as free live scoring). I've also never had any problems with fleaflicker going down (we were on CBS two years ago when their fantasy site was down at least twice a week for the entire season).
joeski
Footballguy
Any one know how to properly setup divisions in the yahoo league so the top 3 teams in each division make the playoffs? It doesn't seem like any of these options will work
If your league uses divisions you can choose how teams are seeded for the playoffs using these three options:
1. Division winners advance and are assigned top seeds: The winners of each division will advance to the playoffs as the top seeds and the overall top division winner will be the #1 seed. All other playoff teams will be determined by overall standings regardless of division results.
2. Division winners advance but are seeded according to overall standings: The winners of each division will advance to the playoffs and all other playoff teams will be determined by overall standings. Playoff seeds will be determined by overall standings regardless of division results.
3. All teams seeded according to overall standings: All playoff seeds will be determined by overall standings regardless of division results.
If your league does not use divisions teams will be seeded according to overall standings
If your league uses divisions you can choose how teams are seeded for the playoffs using these three options:
1. Division winners advance and are assigned top seeds: The winners of each division will advance to the playoffs as the top seeds and the overall top division winner will be the #1 seed. All other playoff teams will be determined by overall standings regardless of division results.
2. Division winners advance but are seeded according to overall standings: The winners of each division will advance to the playoffs and all other playoff teams will be determined by overall standings. Playoff seeds will be determined by overall standings regardless of division results.
3. All teams seeded according to overall standings: All playoff seeds will be determined by overall standings regardless of division results.
If your league does not use divisions teams will be seeded according to overall standings
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awesomeness
Guest
Yahoo's for guppies.
SSOG
Moderator
Calling people guppies is for guppies.
jswalker1981
Footballguy
Umm, actually you can customize ESPN scoring. Just don't do a standard league, just create a free customizable league. I have one, and we score 1pt per 20yds passing. I run my league with ESPN and love it. I'm in a league on yahoo and it's alright, I don't hate it. But as a league commissioner, I like that I can add league manager note, post images on the homepage, create polls. It feels more like it's my league homepage than just the same generic yahoo league page.
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awesomeness
Guest
Although that may be true, my original point stands as called.
Easy Money
Footballguy
only breifly used espn and didn't care for it. Liked yahoo alot but we could get the players at any time also. already had my computer running on sundays so it wasn't bad. i'm about to start a new league but don't feel like paying mfl so was looking for the best free site myself. sounds like everyone has there own opinion and its split evenly.
Based on the info here I take back what I said about Yahoo. ESPN and Yahoo are both solid choices
Masked Vigilante
Footballguy
Is anybody getting live scoring with yahoo right now?
I'm not and I'm in a plus league.
Best free site in my opinion as well.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
You have to go into the Stat-tracker to see it.
Man In The Box
Footballguy
StatTracker is working fine for me.
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Man In The Box
Footballguy
Working perfectly on my league home page as well.
smcindoe
Footballguy
Hey cool, mine too. Wasn't until a few minutes ago.Working perfectly on my league home page as well.
Tony Jabroni
Footballguy
I must say after years in both, I much prefer ESPN. You basically have every NFL.com Gamecenter on the same page as your fantasy scoring. I love this years look so far.
footballnerd
Footballguy
I like how Yahoo Stattracker shows your other league game scores. I'm in 3 Yahoo leagues and it shows all three of my teams at the bottom live.
What I just found out about and don't like is that the Blind Bidding Waiver system only applies to the waiver wire time period, then after its over it's open free agency.
Also, I just found out there is no injury position in Yahoo, only IR, so if you have a guy that is OUT, you can't pick up someone for that week, the guy has to be out for the season to go on IR.
What I just found out about and don't like is that the Blind Bidding Waiver system only applies to the waiver wire time period, then after its over it's open free agency.
Also, I just found out there is no injury position in Yahoo, only IR, so if you have a guy that is OUT, you can't pick up someone for that week, the guy has to be out for the season to go on IR.
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