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Big 4 QBs in League Final Four... (1 Viewer)

The Jerminator

The Jerminator

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In my Big $$$ Re-Draft League the Final Four are all sporting a Big 4 QB (Brady, Peyton, Favre, Romo) but when it comes to RBs only Westy and McGahee would count as Studs (drafted in the first two rounds). The other Rbs are: MBIII (Drafted in the 3rd Round), Jamal Lewis (5th), Fred Taylor (6th), LenDale White (7th) and Selvin Young and Earnest Graham (both not drafted).

Is this just a fluke (Peyton and Brady were both drafted in the 1st Round after all so its not like the owners were thinking Stud RB Theory) or might this be a trend? I'm a generally a pretty big Stud RB guy (I'm the Westy, JLew, Romo (13th QB drafted in a 14-team league) owner BTW) but clearly an elite QB and a decent RB Corps puts you in the $$$ (at least this year).

Farve is on his way out (eventually) but there are some nice QBs that will be available in the first 2/3 rounds of redraft leagues in the years to come. Is the new shark move to grab the third QB off the board and fill in with BPAs? Or do you still go Stud RB and grab the 10-12th QB off the board while snatching up VBDs along the way?

FWIW we get 6 pts for a Passing TD with bonuses at 300 yds and for long TDs.

Is the Stud RB being replaced by the Stud QB?

Discuss...

 
The Jerminator said:
In my Big $$$ Re-Draft League the Final Four are all sporting a Big 4 QB (Brady, Peyton, Favre, Romo) but when it comes to RBs only Westy and McGahee would count as Studs (drafted in the first two rounds). The other Rbs are: MBIII (Drafted in the 3rd Round), Jamal Lewis (5th), Fred Taylor (6th), LenDale White (7th) and Selvin Young and Earnest Graham (both not drafted).

Is this just a fluke (Peyton and Brady were both drafted in the 1st Round after all so its not like the owners were thinking Stud RB Theory) or might this be a trend? I'm a generally a pretty big Stud RB guy (I'm the Westy, JLew, Romo (13th QB drafted in a 14-team league) owner BTW) but clearly an elite QB and a decent RB Corps puts you in the $$$ (at least this year).

Farve is on his way out (eventually) but there are some nice QBs that will be available in the first 2/3 rounds of redraft leagues in the years to come. Is the new shark move to grab the third QB off the board and fill in with BPAs? Or do you still go Stud RB and grab the 10-12th QB off the board while snatching up VBDs along the way?

FWIW we get 6 pts for a Passing TD with bonuses at 300 yds and for long TDs.

Is the Stud RB being replaced by the Stud QB?

Discuss...
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The "trend" is to know, understand, and utilize your scoring system.
 
The big 4 QBs coming into the season didn't include Favre and Romo. It was C.Palmer and Brees. Oh, and in my league 2 of the teams remaining are starting P.Rivers and Eli Manning.

 
The four playoff teams have Brady, Romo, Manning, and Brees.

RBs are strong too -- one team (the Romo owner) has Addai, Westbrook, and LT (keeper league). Brady owner = Grant and Lewis, Peyton owner = FWP and MBIII, Brees owner = Rudi and Portis.

Owens and Moss both out. Top WR left in the playoffs are Braylon Edwards and Greg Jennings.

I think that having one of the top 3 QBs has been the biggest key to winning in my league this year.

 
Final 4 in our 12 team $$$$ redraft league

Brady/SJax/Lynch

Romo/Addai/Parker

Favre/Westbrook/McGahee

Cutler/Edge/Gore (this guy has TO/Wayne/Jennings as well)

 
Our final four has the following QB/RB combo:

Team 1: Palmer/LT/Gore

Team 2: Kitna/Addai/Graham

Team 3: Manning/Jacobs/T. Jones

Team 4: VY/S-Jax/Portis

The Brady owner failed to make the playoffs, he fell asleep the last 5 weeks and didn't manage the rest of his lineup. The Romo/AD team was knocked out last week, and the Favre/Willis/Stecker team as well

 
Judge Smails said:
Final 4 in our 12 team $$$$ redraft leagueBrady/SJax/LynchRomo/Addai/ParkerFavre/Westbrook/McGaheeCutler/Edge/Gore (this guy has TO/Wayne/Jennings as well)
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This is what I would expect in most leagues. Two stud-level RBs and a great QB.I was just surprized that only two Stud RBs are in our Final Four but the four best QBs (this year at least) are in.Again, our scoring system is QB friendly but stud RBs usually carry the day...
 
Brady (built around RBs)

Romo (built around WRs)

D. Anderson (built around WRs)

Eli Manning (built around RBs)

These 4 teams were the 1,2,3, and 5th highest scorers for the season in our league.

 
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The Jerminator said:
In my Big $$$ Re-Draft League the Final Four are all sporting a Big 4 QB (Brady, Peyton, Favre, Romo) but when it comes to RBs only Westy and McGahee would count as Studs (drafted in the first two rounds). The other Rbs are: MBIII (Drafted in the 3rd Round), Jamal Lewis (5th), Fred Taylor (6th), LenDale White (7th) and Selvin Young and Earnest Graham (both not drafted).Is this just a fluke (Peyton and Brady were both drafted in the 1st Round after all so its not like the owners were thinking Stud RB Theory) or might this be a trend? I'm a generally a pretty big Stud RB guy (I'm the Westy, JLew, Romo (13th QB drafted in a 14-team league) owner BTW) but clearly an elite QB and a decent RB Corps puts you in the $$$ (at least this year).Farve is on his way out (eventually) but there are some nice QBs that will be available in the first 2/3 rounds of redraft leagues in the years to come. Is the new shark move to grab the third QB off the board and fill in with BPAs? Or do you still go Stud RB and grab the 10-12th QB off the board while snatching up VBDs along the way?FWIW we get 6 pts for a Passing TD with bonuses at 300 yds and for long TDs.Is the Stud RB being replaced by the Stud QB?Discuss...
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after reading your paragraph, i went to my league page thinking that you are possibly in my league. The similarities between my league and your league seem to be scarily similar. QBs are Brady Manning Romo FavreRBs are Westy Mcgahee JLew Graham Selvin (tho both addai and ADP are in the playoffs and they dont appear to be in ur league.)
 
Our final 4:

QBs: Brady; Favre; Anderson; McNabb

RBs: Peterson/Lynch; Alexander/Parker; McGahee/Lewis; Tomlinson/F. Taylor

 
I consider this entire year to be the exception rather than the rule because of the ridiculous number of injurys and studs who have been busts.

 
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Trend-

Anderson(Moss), Hasselbach, Grossman (?!), Brees, Farve & Brady

(Peyton & Rothlesburger were both drafted by a league rookie)

the chickens have come home to roost. after decades of making pass defense illegal, as Steve Young say, we now have a league where QB overrides all else. Name the top 6 teams -- name the top 6 QB's.

As wonderful as the Patriots season is why are they not the greatest team ever? Because, instead of dominating in all aspects of the game, Bellicheck is the only guy so far who was smart enough to figure it out. There is no way to stop a QB equiped NFL offense. So you better get used to scoring every time you get possession because at some point you will be in a game where the team that settles for a FG loses.

 
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One leaague:

Brady,Romo,BigBen,Palmer

Willis/MB3, Westy/KJones,Addai/Lynch,Henry,Young/FTaylor

ANother

Anderson,Kitna,Palmer,Favre

K.Jones/Young,Westy/ADP,Graham/Lynch,Sjax/Portis

Keeper:

Hasslebeck,Eli,Favre,Brady

LT2/Jamal,Westy/Lynch,ADP/Grant,Graham/Stecker,Bush

I actually see westbrook,Kjones owners

 
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This is an interesting analysis. Here is our 12 team redraft final 4:

Peyton/FTaylor/MoMo (thats not who got him there, but thats whats left) plus Randy Moss, chambers & Jennings

Romo/Addai/TJones plus Ocho Cinco, Galloway & Welker

Kitna/LT/Edge plus TO, Plax & Gates

Brady/Rudi/Dayne plus BEdwards, Mason, Dallas Clark

 
Anthony Borbely said:
I consider this entire year to be the exception rather than the rule because of the ridiculous number of injurys and studs who have been busts.
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Name backs having played less than 10 games to date -- Ronnie Brown, Steven Jackson, Larry JohnsonName WRs -- Andre Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Anquan BoldinName QBs -- Mark BulgerI don't see your argument
 
1) One year a trend does not make. Now if it happens again next year then you can start thinking about it being a trend.

2) Favre and Romo were most likely not the 3rd and 4th QB's off the board in the draft. So those owners just happened to pick the right QB this year at the right time in the draft.

3) Selecting a big name QB in the early rounds does not assure you of anything (look at your Brees and Palmer owner).

4) Is it a coincidence that the top 4 scoring players at probably the highest scoring position in your league are on the last 4 remaining teams. No. It's common sense that at least a couple of them would be. This year it just so happens to be all of them (in your league). In my league, QB's typically score 25-30 pts in a week while a RB or WR would need a very productive day (100+ 2TDs) to reach the 25 pt mark. 3 of the 4 "big" Qb's are still alive.

5) A strong QB has played a more important role due to injuries at other positions this year. A lot of Stud RB's have been injured (Sjax, LJ, Cadaliac, R. Brown, T. Henry) along with some not so stud RB's that were selected as RB2's (A. Green, Lynch, Jackson/Morency). Combine that with a player like LT2 having a "less" than normal year for him and teams in the fantasy world have to look elsewhere for points. This year, it's been the QB position. (WR's have had their share of injuries too, JWalker, A. Johnson and underperformers S. Smith).

6) You must also look at who these other teams had. To blindly say that a team is in the final 4 because of having one of the "big 4" qb's is just wrong. A team in my league who is always at the bottom of the standings every year just happened to pick Maroney and Brady and decided hey I've already got 2 NE players, let me just pick the rest of them and he drafted R. Moss, Stallworth, Watson, Gostkowski, Patriots Def, and S. Morris. Is he in the final 4 because he has Brady? Or because he has all of the above.

 
Two leagues with playoffs, the starting QB's:

League 1 - Hass, Rivers, Palmer, Romo

League 2 - Warner, Romo, Hass, Kitna

The rest of the positions still count for something.

 
League 1. Brady, Brees, Romo, D. Anderson.

League 2. Brady, Brees, Romo, Manning

League 3 Brady, Romo, Manning, Favre

 
Combos and trios in my 2 qb league

Team 1: Palmer / Ocho , Warner/Fitz

Team 2: Manning / Addai / Wayne , D. Anderson

Team 3: Romo / TO / Witten , Cutler

Team 4: Dmac / T.Edwards

 
This week will determine it...

Right now it is

Romo

Brady

The other 4 teams that might make the playoffs

Hasselbeck

Palmer / Eli

Kitna / Warner

Anderson

 
Not so much in mine...

Romo - Kitna - McNabb - P.Manning

Stud TEs on the other hand:

Gates - Witten - Winslow - Gonzalez

 
In my 14 team league the Remaining QBs are Romo (me), Brady, Favre, and nobody (literally..he's got Bulger and McCown).

But...the RBs/Wrs are a big part as well and we are using the common performance scoring system (QB 4pt/td, 1pt/25yds, -2/pick RB/WR/TE 1pt/10yd 6pt/td)

 
League 1: Brady, Manning, McNabb, Farve

League 2: Palmer. McNabb (Garcia), Romo, Hass

League 3: Brady, Romo, Brees, Manning

 
Final 4 in my 10 teamer...

QBs: Favre (me), Anderson, Palmer, Warner

RBs: Portis, Jones, Stecker...Maroney, Rudi...Addai, Lendale...James, Gore, Lynch

WRs: Ocho Cinco, Jennings...Moss, Mason...Fitz, Edwards, Colston...Andre J, Brandon Marshall, Galloway

TE: Winslow, Gonzalez, Gates, Daniels

 
Our final 4 (w/ playoff seed, note all 12 teams make the playoffs):

2 Brees - Westbrook - Andre Johnson/Fitzgerald

3 Brady - Jamal Lewis (LJ injured) - Wayne

5 Manning/Favre - Graham (never had a true RB1, T.Jones) - Holt/Edwards

11 Palmer - Grant (Gore benched) - Ward/Jennings

I'd say this was no fluke this year, as the most of the top QBs have been cash money down the stretch. Palmer is the exception, but Ryan Grant has carried this low playoff seed to a couple upsets. Romo was just knocked out by the 3rd seed w/ Brady.

 
Final Four in our Redraft:

Brady
Romo
Peyton
WarnerI started Bulger WKs 1-4 & 11, Pennington WK 5, Campbell WK 7, Cutler WKs 8-9, Losman WK 10, Kurt WKs 6 & 12-14.

During the mid-season stretch, I got a TOTAL of 32 points from my QB in 9 weeks, and still won 6 of those games. I was 4-1 in games which my signal caller had no more than 2 points (twice posted minus 2).

LT2 and 3 stud WRs covers a multitude of sins.

:X

 
From what I'm seeing, as well as what I've seen in my leagues, you had to be a pretty big dufus and draft an exceptionally horrible team to own Brady and not make the playoffs.

 
The Jerminator said:
In my Big $$$ Re-Draft League the Final Four are all sporting a Big 4 QB (Brady, Peyton, Favre, Romo) but when it comes to RBs only Westy and McGahee would count as Studs (drafted in the first two rounds). The other Rbs are: MBIII (Drafted in the 3rd Round), Jamal Lewis (5th), Fred Taylor (6th), LenDale White (7th) and Selvin Young and Earnest Graham (both not drafted).

Is this just a fluke (Peyton and Brady were both drafted in the 1st Round after all so its not like the owners were thinking Stud RB Theory) or might this be a trend? I'm a generally a pretty big Stud RB guy (I'm the Westy, JLew, Romo (13th QB drafted in a 14-team league) owner BTW) but clearly an elite QB and a decent RB Corps puts you in the $$$ (at least this year).

Farve is on his way out (eventually) but there are some nice QBs that will be available in the first 2/3 rounds of redraft leagues in the years to come. Is the new shark move to grab the third QB off the board and fill in with BPAs? Or do you still go Stud RB and grab the 10-12th QB off the board while snatching up VBDs along the way?

FWIW we get 6 pts for a Passing TD with bonuses at 300 yds and for long TDs.

Is the Stud RB being replaced by the Stud QB?

Discuss...
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No
 
1. Manning-RB's ADP + LT

2. Warner (!)-RB's Denver+SJax

3. Palmer (!)-RB's MBIII+Westy

4. Romo-RB's Addai+McGahee

The Brady+Moss ownere missed the playoffs despite being #1 overall in points.

Farve owner had the worst team in the league.

Distance league (scoring in link below if you're interested).

The teams with the best RB's seemed to win out in my league. Solid WR's helped too...

 
my $ league, the big 4 have 4 big time QBs

romo

brady

big ben

manning

romo owner has marion barber/portis

brady owner has addai

big ben owner has LT and edge

manning owner has jack at RB because 4 RBs are on IR and couple more hurt (yes that's me)

 
Paddy O said:
Anthony Borbely said:
I consider this entire year to be the exception rather than the rule because of the ridiculous number of injurys and studs who have been busts.
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Name backs having played less than 10 games to date -- Ronnie Brown, Steven Jackson, Larry JohnsonName WRs -- Andre Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Anquan BoldinName QBs -- Mark BulgerI don't see your argument
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Why is the cutoff 10 games? Several starting RBs have missed games.Among the starting RBs who were starters at the beginning of the season (not all studs, but mostly starters nonetheless)...include Adrian Peterson, Cedric Benson, Kevin Jones, Brandon Jacobs, Cadillac Williams, Reggie Bush, Shaun Alexander, Steven Jackson, Rudi Johnson, Laurence Maroney, Ronnie Brown, Marshawn Lynch, Ahman Green, Travis Henry, Larry Johnson, and Lamont Jordan. Unless I made a mistake, these players all missed at least 2 games, and most of them missed more. This does not include Addai and Gore, who each missed one game. It does not count a player like Ryan Grant, who was not a starter at the beginning of the season. It does not count backups who were hurt after taking over as a starter, such as Holmes, Ward, Chatman and Pittman. I think this is a staggering list of RBs.
 
#3 Favre/Addai/Plax/Gates

v.

#1 Brady/Tomlinson/Owens/Winslow

#4 Anderson/Westbrook/Jennings/Ry. Grant

v.

#1 Roethlisberger/Adrian Peterson/Fitzgerald/Marshall

 
Anderson

Favre

Romo

Eli Manning

6 pt TD league (sucks)

I have

Anderson

LT

ADP

Grant

vs.

Favre

SJAX

Jamal Lewis

Graham

and the other game is

Eli

Westy

KJones

vs.

Romo

Edge

Lynch

LenWhale

 
Final four are

Warner and another QB/Westbrook/AD

Brees/LT/Jacobs

Brady/MBIII/Jamal Lewis

Cutler-Rivers/Addai

 
My final 4 QB's include: Brady, Romo, Palmer and Hasslebeck(and/or Kitna)

The RB's left include AP, Graham, Kev Jones, LT, McGahee, Gore & Westbrook. One guy is starting Fargas and Jamal Lewis this weekend.

For what it's worth, the 4 TE's remaining are Gates, Witten, Clark & Winslow.

 
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