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Huge week for the Illini. Went from being on the the bubble to soundly in the tourney. It looked like there were on the verge of being 2-9 in the B1G, but are 4-7 instead. They have 5 games that should be winnable out of 8. They should end up with 21 wins and probably a 6-7th seed.
Nice back to back games, but I don't see them as a 6-7 seed...yet. I also see them with 4 games they'll be favored in, and 4 games they won't. I do expect them to be in, but would guess an 8/9 seed right now. I like the direction they are heading, and also like their non-conference wins (Gonzaga and Butler, with neither at home!).
I hate you and everything about you.
I feel like after the last couple of days, it'd be fun to play for Bo or Brey and terrible to play for Pitino.
Typical Tubby coaching.
The Illini are one of the most intriguing teams. Can beat anybody. Can lose to anybody. I'd love to say they are sure bet to be in, but I know better
-QGNot sure how anyone that watches any Gopher games can defend him as a coach any longer. The sequence that just defines Tubby's tenure here happened with something like six minutes left in the game. The Gophers had back to back offensive possessions where you just sat there watching for 33 seconds and shook your head, as four guys stood around and stared at the one with the ball. On these two possessions, two miraculous consecutive 3's by Dre Hollins and Welsch saved the day. But thats not typically the norm. If you can't teach these kids how to run any semblance of a motion offense, then unfortunately you simply have to call more set plays. Doing neither will continue to result in the same abysmal offense and mounting losses, regardless of the fact that this is the most talented team that Tubby's had yet during his tenure at MN.
Been down on Tubby as a coach for a long time. Most of his players show zero development over the course of their years in MN. Look at Rodney Williams, he was listed as a top 10 NBA prospect as a freshman. Ralph Sampson declined in effectiveness in his years here. Some of the blame goes to players, but I can't believe Tubby has consistently bad luck in finding players that have topped out at 18. He's a heck of a recruiter, but as a coach? Meh. I think my 5th graders have a better idea of how to play offensive basketball than his teams.
Yep. Not even Sam Dekker, who plays for Wisconsin and was the 13th best recruit in the nation according to Rivals for 2012. Not to mention 2013's Bronson Koenig, the kid that chose Wisconsin over Duke, Noth Carolina, and Michigan State. But yeah, keep talking about how the guy can't recruit...makes perfect sense.
He should say that. Every time. The kid makes a living hitting deep threes, so whatever he does for confidence, keep doing it.When Ben Brust was interviewed about his prayer that was answered at the end of regulation in the UW vs U of M game he said "I'm not going to lie, it felt good (coming off his hand)". What a #####. It was a one handed hopeful half-court runner....he was headed one way and the shot was going another. "It felt good"
He should say that. Every time. The kid makes a living hitting deep threes, so whatever he does for confidence, keep doing it.When Ben Brust was interviewed about his prayer that was answered at the end of regulation in the UW vs U of M game he said "I'm not going to lie, it felt good (coming off his hand)". What a #####. It was a one handed hopeful half-court runner....he was headed one way and the shot was going another. "It felt good"
Please stop. Lauch heave whateverI'm a U of M fan, but not going to cry about the loss. Michigan should have found a way. However, you can talk until your blue in the face trying to call this something more than a half court heave and you'll be wrong. Watch the slow-mo from behind....he launches it alright. He "follows through" on his launch. And his body is headed toward the bench....he's shooting away from where he's headed. Credit to him for making the shot, but that isn't a shot you practice and "feel good about". lets call a
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See my follow up. Letdown because I think my team should have gotten over. Half court shots are part of the game, and the kid's prayer was answered as I said before. Just pointing out the fact that it was indeed a prayer. Had it gone the other way and the prayer was shot by Trey Burke to tie the game, I would have said the exact same thing.
So he lied? If he says it felt good when it left his hand then I bet he did. When playing basketball there are always times where a shot feels good when leaving your hand, it doesn't always mean it's going in, but you released it where you wanted to and it looks like it is on target. I don't understand why this type of shot eliminates that it can feel good coming off his hand?Not being a smartass but have you ever played basketball at a any kind of a competitive level at least through HS?Please stop. Lauch heave whateverI'm a U of M fan, but not going to cry about the loss. Michigan should have found a way. However, you can talk until your blue in the face trying to call this something more than a half court heave and you'll be wrong. Watch the slow-mo from behind....he launches it alright. He "follows through" on his launch. And his body is headed toward the bench....he's shooting away from where he's headed. Credit to him for making the shot, but that isn't a shot you practice and "feel good about". lets call a
So he lied? If he says it felt good when it left his hand then I bet he did. When playing basketball there are always times where a shot feels good when leaving your hand, it doesn't always mean it's going in, but you released it where you wanted to and it looks like it is on target. I don't understand why this type of shot eliminates that it can feel good coming off his hand?Please stop. Lauch heave whateverI'm a U of M fan, but not going to cry about the loss. Michigan should have found a way. However, you can talk until your blue in the face trying to call this something more than a half court heave and you'll be wrong.
Watch the slow-mo from behind....he launches it alright. He "follows through" on his launch. And his body is headed toward the bench....he's shooting away from where he's headed. Credit to him for making the shot, but that isn't a shot you practice and "feel good about".
lets call a
Not being a smartass but have you ever played basketball at a any kind of a competitive level at least through HS?
I was about to ask you the exact same question while reading your response. Yes, I have.
Yep. February is a brutal month to be a Gopher BB fan. Just read in paper this morning we're something like 3-13 over his tenure in February. Crunch time in the conference, and our Tubby teams have consistently fallen apart down the stretch.Last night the lack of offense killed us. 0 FG for the Illini for the 1st 9 minutes of play, and they still get out of the half up by 1. Poor perimeter defense and lack of adjustment to Mbakwe getting double teamed at the post sunk us as well. All on the coach, IMO.Wasted another inspired performance by Austin Hollins as well. What a shame.
The FFA will argue about anything....holy crap!
No. No you would not.
So you have no idea what a shooter means when he says a shot "felt good"? He's not saying he knew it was going in. On a half court shot like that the best you can hope for is to get a good release to have a small chance of making the shot. I think anyone who has ever stepped on a court understands this quote.When Ben Brust was interviewed about his prayer that was answered at the end of regulation in the UW vs U of M game he said "I'm not going to lie, it felt good (coming off his hand)". What a #####. It was a one handed hopeful half-court runner....he was headed one way and the shot was going another. "It felt good"
Why must you let truth get in the way?
So you have no idea what a shooter means when he says a shot "felt good"? He's not saying he knew it was going in. On a half court shot like that the best you can hope for is to get a good release to have a small chance of making the shot. I think anyone who has ever stepped on a court understands this quote.When Ben Brust was interviewed about his prayer that was answered at the end of regulation in the UW vs U of M game he said "I'm not going to lie, it felt good (coming off his hand)". What a #####. It was a one handed hopeful half-court runner....he was headed one way and the shot was going another. "It felt good"
Have to agree with the others Scrumpt, in that "it felt good" when shooting a halfcourt runner didn't mean that he thought it was going in per se, but that it felt like it had a chance. I think you're reading into Brust's comments too literally.
Right but you can take a half court shot running and still feel good. To me feel good means it looks good off your hand and is on target. Anything long distance from 3 I would say a majority of the time you know if the shot felt good or not.So he lied? If he says it felt good when it left his hand then I bet he did. When playing basketball there are always times where a shot feels good when leaving your hand, it doesn't always mean it's going in, but you released it where you wanted to and it looks like it is on target. I don't understand why this type of shot eliminates that it can feel good coming off his hand?Please stop. Lauch heave whateverI'm a U of M fan, but not going to cry about the loss. Michigan should have found a way. However, you can talk until your blue in the face trying to call this something more than a half court heave and you'll be wrong.
Watch the slow-mo from behind....he launches it alright. He "follows through" on his launch. And his body is headed toward the bench....he's shooting away from where he's headed. Credit to him for making the shot, but that isn't a shot you practice and "feel good about".
lets call a
Not being a smartass but have you ever played basketball at a any kind of a competitive level at least through HS?
I'm not going to argue with you for the sake of arguing, which is what it looks like you're doing here. It was an awkward half-court running shot/throw, nothing more.
Nah, U mad bro.
So what's your point? You say you're not going to cry about it, but you're crying about what Brust said after the game? Who cares. Wisconsin won. Not sure what we're aruging about here.Please stop. Lauch heave whateverI'm a U of M fan, but not going to cry about the loss. Michigan should have found a way. However, you can talk until your blue in the face trying to call this something more than a half court heave and you'll be wrong. Watch the slow-mo from behind....he launches it alright. He "follows through" on his launch. And his body is headed toward the bench....he's shooting away from where he's headed. Credit to him for making the shot, but that isn't a shot you practice and "feel good about". lets call a
He mad broSo what's your point? You say you're not going to cry about it, but you're crying about what Brust said after the game? Who cares. Wisconsin won. Not sure what we're aruging about here.Please stop. Lauch heave whateverI'm a U of M fan, but not going to cry about the loss. Michigan should have found a way. However, you can talk until your blue in the face trying to call this something more than a half court heave and you'll be wrong. Watch the slow-mo from behind....he launches it alright. He "follows through" on his launch. And his body is headed toward the bench....he's shooting away from where he's headed. Credit to him for making the shot, but that isn't a shot you practice and "feel good about". lets call a
Not crying about a loss at all, have not in a single post about it. Pointing out what Brust said and totally disagree with him. If you don't care to discuss it, then why are you discussing it?So what's your point? You say you're not going to cry about it, but you're crying about what Brust said after the game? Who cares. Wisconsin won. Not sure what we're aruging about here.Please stop. Lauch heave whateverI'm a U of M fan, but not going to cry about the loss. Michigan should have found a way. However, you can talk until your blue in the face trying to call this something more than a half court heave and you'll be wrong. Watch the slow-mo from behind....he launches it alright. He "follows through" on his launch. And his body is headed toward the bench....he's shooting away from where he's headed. Credit to him for making the shot, but that isn't a shot you practice and "feel good about". lets call a
To me "feel good" would be from an actual shot. Your total form and follow through on a 3. Or it can be a runner too but not too many runners are attempted from 40 feet. You can get a decent release without someone getting a piece of the ball from halfcourt but it is nothing you train and practice for so it is what it is, a halfcourt heave at the buzzer. A buzzer beater you dream about as a kid.Right but you can take a half court shot running and still feel good. To me feel good means it looks good off your hand and is on target. Anything long distance from 3 I would say a majority of the time you know if the shot felt good or not.So he lied? If he says it felt good when it left his hand then I bet he did. When playing basketball there are always times where a shot feels good when leaving your hand, it doesn't always mean it's going in, but you released it where you wanted to and it looks like it is on target. I don't understand why this type of shot eliminates that it can feel good coming off his hand?Please stop. Lauch heave whateverI'm a U of M fan, but not going to cry about the loss. Michigan should have found a way. However, you can talk until your blue in the face trying to call this something more than a half court heave and you'll be wrong.
Watch the slow-mo from behind....he launches it alright. He "follows through" on his launch. And his body is headed toward the bench....he's shooting away from where he's headed. Credit to him for making the shot, but that isn't a shot you practice and "feel good about".
lets call a
Not being a smartass but have you ever played basketball at a any kind of a competitive level at least through HS?
I'm not going to argue with you for the sake of arguing, which is what it looks like you're doing here. It was an awkward half-court running shot/throw, nothing more.
It was an awkward running shot. Absolutely. But it is also one that is practiced. From a post game interview, Bo stated that the shot that they got is the second option on the play that was called. Whoever was option 1, they didn't get the ball to. It was a great pass, and a well-executed play. Not a high percentage play, but well-executed regardless. I am certain that Brust knew whether the shot felt good or bad leaving his hand, from a shot that he practices. Also, LOL at no timeouts!!
Of course they practice these shots. They are running an in-bounds play designed specifically for this game situation.To me "feel good" would be from an actual shot. Your total form and follow through on a 3. Or it can be a runner too but not too many runners are attempted from 40 feet. You can get a decent release without someone getting a piece of the ball from halfcourt but it is nothing you train and practice for so it is what it is, a halfcourt heave at the buzzer. A buzzer beater you dream about as a kid.Right but you can take a half court shot running and still feel good. To me feel good means it looks good off your hand and is on target. Anything long distance from 3 I would say a majority of the time you know if the shot felt good or not.So he lied? If he says it felt good when it left his hand then I bet he did. When playing basketball there are always times where a shot feels good when leaving your hand, it doesn't always mean it's going in, but you released it where you wanted to and it looks like it is on target. I don't understand why this type of shot eliminates that it can feel good coming off his hand?Please stop. Lauch heave whateverI'm a U of M fan, but not going to cry about the loss. Michigan should have found a way. However, you can talk until your blue in the face trying to call this something more than a half court heave and you'll be wrong.
Watch the slow-mo from behind....he launches it alright. He "follows through" on his launch. And his body is headed toward the bench....he's shooting away from where he's headed. Credit to him for making the shot, but that isn't a shot you practice and "feel good about".
lets call a
Not being a smartass but have you ever played basketball at a any kind of a competitive level at least through HS?
I'm not going to argue with you for the sake of arguing, which is what it looks like you're doing here. It was an awkward half-court running shot/throw, nothing more.
Ryan said as much after the game.Of course they practice these shots. They are running an in-bounds play designed specifically for this game situation.To me "feel good" would be from an actual shot. Your total form and follow through on a 3. Or it can be a runner too but not too many runners are attempted from 40 feet. You can get a decent release without someone getting a piece of the ball from halfcourt but it is nothing you train and practice for so it is what it is, a halfcourt heave at the buzzer. A buzzer beater you dream about as a kid.Right but you can take a half court shot running and still feel good. To me feel good means it looks good off your hand and is on target. Anything long distance from 3 I would say a majority of the time you know if the shot felt good or not.So he lied? If he says it felt good when it left his hand then I bet he did. When playing basketball there are always times where a shot feels good when leaving your hand, it doesn't always mean it's going in, but you released it where you wanted to and it looks like it is on target. I don't understand why this type of shot eliminates that it can feel good coming off his hand?Please stop. Lauch heave whateverI'm a U of M fan, but not going to cry about the loss. Michigan should have found a way. However, you can talk until your blue in the face trying to call this something more than a half court heave and you'll be wrong.
Watch the slow-mo from behind....he launches it alright. He "follows through" on his launch. And his body is headed toward the bench....he's shooting away from where he's headed. Credit to him for making the shot, but that isn't a shot you practice and "feel good about".
lets call a
Not being a smartass but have you ever played basketball at a any kind of a competitive level at least through HS?
I'm not going to argue with you for the sake of arguing, which is what it looks like you're doing here. It was an awkward half-court running shot/throw, nothing more.
It is a practiced shot. Also, how much does Hardaway practice the shot that he hit for the lead??
Hey man, do what you gotta do. If it makes you feel better to believe your team lost because of a prayer rather than an "actual shot" so be it. But I'll tell you that if you think these kids don't mess around after practice and on their own with half court shots with each other, your mistaken. Doesn't make the shot a "good one" but it doesn't mean that Brust hasn't shot enough of them for it to "feel good" leaving his hands.Enjoy the NIT brah.To me "feel good" would be from an actual shot. Your total form and follow through on a 3. Or it can be a runner too but not too many runners are attempted from 40 feet. You can get a decent release without someone getting a piece of the ball from halfcourt but it is nothing you train and practice for so it is what it is, a halfcourt heave at the buzzer. A buzzer beater you dream about as a kid.Right but you can take a half court shot running and still feel good. To me feel good means it looks good off your hand and is on target. Anything long distance from 3 I would say a majority of the time you know if the shot felt good or not.So he lied? If he says it felt good when it left his hand then I bet he did. When playing basketball there are always times where a shot feels good when leaving your hand, it doesn't always mean it's going in, but you released it where you wanted to and it looks like it is on target. I don't understand why this type of shot eliminates that it can feel good coming off his hand?Please stop. Lauch heave whateverI'm a U of M fan, but not going to cry about the loss. Michigan should have found a way. However, you can talk until your blue in the face trying to call this something more than a half court heave and you'll be wrong.
Watch the slow-mo from behind....he launches it alright. He "follows through" on his launch. And his body is headed toward the bench....he's shooting away from where he's headed. Credit to him for making the shot, but that isn't a shot you practice and "feel good about".
lets call a
Not being a smartass but have you ever played basketball at a any kind of a competitive level at least through HS?
I'm not going to argue with you for the sake of arguing, which is what it looks like you're doing here. It was an awkward half-court running shot/throw, nothing more.
Good griefOf course they practice these shots. They are running an in-bounds play designed specifically for this game situation.To me "feel good" would be from an actual shot. Your total form and follow through on a 3. Or it can be a runner too but not too many runners are attempted from 40 feet. You can get a decent release without someone getting a piece of the ball from halfcourt but it is nothing you train and practice for so it is what it is, a halfcourt heave at the buzzer. A buzzer beater you dream about as a kid.Right but you can take a half court shot running and still feel good. To me feel good means it looks good off your hand and is on target. Anything long distance from 3 I would say a majority of the time you know if the shot felt good or not.So he lied? If he says it felt good when it left his hand then I bet he did. When playing basketball there are always times where a shot feels good when leaving your hand, it doesn't always mean it's going in, but you released it where you wanted to and it looks like it is on target. I don't understand why this type of shot eliminates that it can feel good coming off his hand?Please stop. Lauch heave whateverI'm a U of M fan, but not going to cry about the loss. Michigan should have found a way. However, you can talk until your blue in the face trying to call this something more than a half court heave and you'll be wrong.
Watch the slow-mo from behind....he launches it alright. He "follows through" on his launch. And his body is headed toward the bench....he's shooting away from where he's headed. Credit to him for making the shot, but that isn't a shot you practice and "feel good about".
lets call a
Not being a smartass but have you ever played basketball at a any kind of a competitive level at least through HS?
I'm not going to argue with you for the sake of arguing, which is what it looks like you're doing here. It was an awkward half-court running shot/throw, nothing more.
Okayfine....so Brust hits the gym early every morning just to practice halfcourt runners. Seems he should be spending more time on other parts of his game which he would need more but hey, it paid off in this game.
Great call Badger, you're on top of it.
OMFG!Good griefOf course they practice these shots. They are running an in-bounds play designed specifically for this game situation.To me "feel good" would be from an actual shot. Your total form and follow through on a 3. Or it can be a runner too but not too many runners are attempted from 40 feet. You can get a decent release without someone getting a piece of the ball from halfcourt but it is nothing you train and practice for so it is what it is, a halfcourt heave at the buzzer. A buzzer beater you dream about as a kid.Right but you can take a half court shot running and still feel good. To me feel good means it looks good off your hand and is on target. Anything long distance from 3 I would say a majority of the time you know if the shot felt good or not.So he lied? If he says it felt good when it left his hand then I bet he did. When playing basketball there are always times where a shot feels good when leaving your hand, it doesn't always mean it's going in, but you released it where you wanted to and it looks like it is on target. I don't understand why this type of shot eliminates that it can feel good coming off his hand?Please stop. Lauch heave whateverI'm a U of M fan, but not going to cry about the loss. Michigan should have found a way. However, you can talk until your blue in the face trying to call this something more than a half court heave and you'll be wrong.
Watch the slow-mo from behind....he launches it alright. He "follows through" on his launch. And his body is headed toward the bench....he's shooting away from where he's headed. Credit to him for making the shot, but that isn't a shot you practice and "feel good about".
lets call a
Not being a smartass but have you ever played basketball at a any kind of a competitive level at least through HS?
I'm not going to argue with you for the sake of arguing, which is what it looks like you're doing here. It was an awkward half-court running shot/throw, nothing more.
Nope. He practices that shot every time they practice that inbound play. How often does Hardaway practice taking a 3 with his feet almost parallel to his target (
Settle down. Or feel free to just play dumb so you can pile on like the rest. I wouldn't expect anything more.Truth is, of course teams practice these inbounds play. They practice it plenty and that one was run like clockwork. No one practices these shots a whole lot though. Yeah, guys are messing with is before practice for a few laughs, but they are not spending time with this shot.OMFG!Good griefOf course they practice these shots. They are running an in-bounds play designed specifically for this game situation.To me "feel good" would be from an actual shot. Your total form and follow through on a 3. Or it can be a runner too but not too many runners are attempted from 40 feet. You can get a decent release without someone getting a piece of the ball from halfcourt but it is nothing you train and practice for so it is what it is, a halfcourt heave at the buzzer. A buzzer beater you dream about as a kid.Right but you can take a half court shot running and still feel good. To me feel good means it looks good off your hand and is on target. Anything long distance from 3 I would say a majority of the time you know if the shot felt good or not.So he lied? If he says it felt good when it left his hand then I bet he did. When playing basketball there are always times where a shot feels good when leaving your hand, it doesn't always mean it's going in, but you released it where you wanted to and it looks like it is on target. I don't understand why this type of shot eliminates that it can feel good coming off his hand?Please stop. Lauch heave whateverI'm a U of M fan, but not going to cry about the loss. Michigan should have found a way. However, you can talk until your blue in the face trying to call this something more than a half court heave and you'll be wrong.
Watch the slow-mo from behind....he launches it alright. He "follows through" on his launch. And his body is headed toward the bench....he's shooting away from where he's headed. Credit to him for making the shot, but that isn't a shot you practice and "feel good about".
lets call a
Not being a smartass but have you ever played basketball at a any kind of a competitive level at least through HS?
I'm not going to argue with you for the sake of arguing, which is what it looks like you're doing here. It was an awkward half-court running shot/throw, nothing more.
