Big Ten Basketball 2022/2023 - Return to Power (2 Viewers)

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Okayfine....so Brust hits the gym early every morning just to practice halfcourt runners. Seems he should be spending more time on other parts of his game which he would need more but hey, it paid off in this game.

Nope. He practices that shot every time they practice that inbound play. How often does Hardaway practice taking a 3 with his feet almost parallel to his target (

Looks a lot like the same motion in the one he hits at around 2:28 of that video, that one is just closer in.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Okayfine....so Brust hits the gym early every morning just to practice halfcourt runners. Seems he should be spending more time on other parts of his game which he would need more but hey, it paid off in this game.

Nope. He practices that shot every time they practice that inbound play. How often does Hardaway practice taking a 3 with his feet almost parallel to his target (

 

[pigskinliquors]

No one practices these shots a whole lot though. Yeah, guys are messing with is before practice for a few laughs, but they are not spending time with this shot.

To the guy comparing practicing this shot to the one Hardaway hit, I don't think it's a good comparison at all. Look at Hardaway's form in that shot, that is in his range.

From this article...

UW called a timeout and Badgers coach Bo Ryan called a play his team has worked on over and over in practice.

Look at Hardaway's form? His feet are parallel to where he's shooting = no bueno form.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

No one practices these shots a whole lot though. Yeah, guys are messing with is before practice for a few laughs, but they are not spending time with this shot.

To the guy comparing practicing this shot to the one Hardaway hit, I don't think it's a good comparison at all. Look at Hardaway's form in that shot, that is in his range.

From this article...

UW called a timeout and Badgers coach Bo Ryan called a play his team has worked on over and over in practice.

Look at Hardaway's form? His feet are parallel to where he's shooting = no bueno form.

We are not communicating affectively about this inbounds play thing at all. I'm moving on from it.You couldn't be more wrong about his form or where he's shooting. I've watched it and have no idea what you're talking about. He plants his feet and goes straight up and down on his shot. It was a solid jumpshot.

 

[Keerock]

No one practices these shots a whole lot though. Yeah, guys are messing with is before practice for a few laughs, but they are not spending time with this shot.

To the guy comparing practicing this shot to the one Hardaway hit, I don't think it's a good comparison at all. Look at Hardaway's form in that shot, that is in his range.

From this article...

UW called a timeout and Badgers coach Bo Ryan called a play his team has worked on over and over in practice.

Look at Hardaway's form? His feet are parallel to where he's shooting = no bueno form.

We are not communicating affectively about this inbounds play thing at all. I'm moving on from it.

Undoubtedly the major part of the problem...

 

[scrumptrulescent]

No one practices these shots a whole lot though. Yeah, guys are messing with is before practice for a few laughs, but they are not spending time with this shot.

To the guy comparing practicing this shot to the one Hardaway hit, I don't think it's a good comparison at all. Look at Hardaway's form in that shot, that is in his range.

From this article...

UW called a timeout and Badgers coach Bo Ryan called a play his team has worked on over and over in practice.

Look at Hardaway's form? His feet are parallel to where he's shooting = no bueno form.

We are not communicating affectively about this inbounds play thing at all. I'm moving on from it.

Undoubtedly the major part of the problem...

Spelling/grammar police is a great way to raise your post count in the FFA. Good job, good effort.

 

[Keerock]

No one practices these shots a whole lot though. Yeah, guys are messing with is before practice for a few laughs, but they are not spending time with this shot.

To the guy comparing practicing this shot to the one Hardaway hit, I don't think it's a good comparison at all. Look at Hardaway's form in that shot, that is in his range.

From this article...

UW called a timeout and Badgers coach Bo Ryan called a play his team has worked on over and over in practice.

Look at Hardaway's form? His feet are parallel to where he's shooting = no bueno form.

We are not communicating affectively about this inbounds play thing at all. I'm moving on from it.

Undoubtedly the major part of the problem...

Spelling/grammar police is a great way to raise your post count in the FFA. Good job, good effort.

Obviously my ultimate goal, aside from pointing out your ignorance... thanks for the kudos.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

No one practices these shots a whole lot though. Yeah, guys are messing with is before practice for a few laughs, but they are not spending time with this shot.

To the guy comparing practicing this shot to the one Hardaway hit, I don't think it's a good comparison at all. Look at Hardaway's form in that shot, that is in his range.

From this article...

UW called a timeout and Badgers coach Bo Ryan called a play his team has worked on over and over in practice.

Look at Hardaway's form? His feet are parallel to where he's shooting = no bueno form.

We are not communicating affectively about this inbounds play thing at all. I'm moving on from it.

Undoubtedly the major part of the problem...

Spelling/grammar police is a great way to raise your post count in the FFA. Good job, good effort.

Obviously my ultimate goal, aside from pointing out your ignorance... thanks for the kudos.

Lessee, so far you've added laughy emoticons, your fave acronym, and pointing out a misspelled word. That puts you at around 14 years old sparty.

 

[Keerock]

Lessee, so far you've added laughy emoticons, your fave acronym, and pointing out a misspelled word. That puts you at around 14 years old sparty.

So based on that, I've got about 8 years of maturity and better taste than you. I'll take it.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Also on Brust's shot, he actually did shoot it too, he didn't launch it up there. If you watch the replay you can even see him following through

Please stop. Lauch heave whateverI'm a U of M fan, but not going to cry about the loss. Michigan should have found a way. However, you can talk until your blue in the face trying to call this something more than a half court heave and you'll be wrong.

Watch the slow-mo from behind....he launches it alright. He "follows through" on his launch. And his body is headed toward the bench....he's shooting away from where he's headed. Credit to him for making the shot, but that isn't a shot you practice and "feel good about".

lets call a a here.

So he lied? If he says it felt good when it left his hand then I bet he did. When playing basketball there are always times where a shot feels good when leaving your hand, it doesn't always mean it's going in, but you released it where you wanted to and it looks like it is on target. I don't understand why this type of shot eliminates that it can feel good coming off his hand?

Not being a smartass but have you ever played basketball at a any kind of a competitive level at least through HS?

I was about to ask you the exact same question while reading your response. Yes, I have.

I'm not going to argue with you for the sake of arguing, which is what it looks like you're doing here. It was an awkward half-court running shot/throw, nothing more.

Right but you can take a half court shot running and still feel good. To me feel good means it looks good off your hand and is on target. Anything long distance from 3 I would say a majority of the time you know if the shot felt good or not.

To me "feel good" would be from an actual shot. Your total form and follow through on a 3. Or it can be a runner too but not too many runners are attempted from 40 feet. You can get a decent release without someone getting a piece of the ball from halfcourt but it is nothing you train and practice for so it is what it is, a halfcourt heave at the buzzer. A buzzer beater you dream about as a kid.

Of course they practice these shots. They are running an in-bounds play designed specifically for this game situation.

Good grief Okayfine....so Brust hits the gym early every morning just to practice halfcourt runners. Seems he should be spending more time on other parts of his game which he would need more but hey, it paid off in this game.

He doesn't have to hit the gym early because this is something every team practices. I remember as a young kid at basketball camp in Milwaukee, coach Majerus from Marquette teaching us the techniques used to inbound and shoot a long shot with a couple seconds left. It's still mostly luck, but your chances of making the play can be significantly improved by drilling it in practice over and over.

 

[pigskinliquors]

I remember as a young kid at basketball camp in Milwaukee, coach Majerus from Marquette teaching us...

I was at two camps that Majerus was at as a kid! Don Gosz at Platteville, and another one at Marquette, but I don't know the name (both were 1983-84'ish).

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Two big reasons UM lost that game that could have helped their cause, but for some reason either, no one paid attention in the timeout before the UW buzzer beater, or Beilein screwed up the in bounds setup:1. Why wasn't McGary defending the inbounds pass, or in the least, at half court to help defend? Him being under the basket did nothing. 2. Why was a freshman guarding the guy you knew was going to get the inbounds play? And why didn't he foul because they had fouls to give?

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I remember as a young kid at basketball camp in Milwaukee, coach Majerus from Marquette teaching us...

I was at two camps that Majerus was at as a kid! Don Gosz at Platteville, and another one at Marquette, but I don't know the name (both were 1983-84'ish).

This was a Gosz camp, but probably a year or two earlier. I loved being around Majerus, what a great coach.

 

[pizzatyme]

This week has reminded me that these are 18-22 yo kids playing. So many mental errors where you can lose to almost anyone and beat almost anyone the following game. Here's to a great finish to the B1G season and a great showing by the fortunate 7 in the tourney.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Two big reasons UM lost that game that could have helped their cause, but for some reason either, no one paid attention in the timeout before the UW buzzer beater, or Beilein screwed up the in bounds setup:

2. Why was a freshman guarding the guy you knew was going to get the inbounds play? And why didn't he foul because they had fouls to give?

Beilein said they were told to foul. It was a huge screwup but it would have been tough to get a foul there because the inbounds play worked very well, thanks to a fantastic pass which led Brust perfectly.The guy who got the inbounds play was not the only option if I heard Ryan correctly....and Michigan will live and die with freshmen this year.

McGary may have been guarding against a football pass by someone getting off a pick and streaking to the basket.

 

[jon_mx]

Two big reasons UM lost that game that could have helped their cause, but for some reason either, no one paid attention in the timeout before the UW buzzer beater, or Beilein screwed up the in bounds setup:

2. Why was a freshman guarding the guy you knew was going to get the inbounds play? And why didn't he foul because they had fouls to give?

Beilein said they were told to foul. It was a huge screwup but it would have been tough to get a foul there because the inbounds play worked very well, thanks to a fantastic pass which led Brust perfectly.The guy who got the inbounds play was not the only option if I heard Ryan correctly....and Michigan will live and die with freshmen this year.

McGary may have been guarding against a football pass by someone getting off a pick and streaking to the basket.

The way the play worked out, it was difficult to foul because he could have easily gone into the act of shooting. I am not sure much could have been done.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Two big reasons UM lost that game that could have helped their cause, but for some reason either, no one paid attention in the timeout before the UW buzzer beater, or Beilein screwed up the in bounds setup:

2. Why was a freshman guarding the guy you knew was going to get the inbounds play? And why didn't he foul because they had fouls to give?

Beilein said they were told to foul. It was a huge screwup but it would have been tough to get a foul there because the inbounds play worked very well, thanks to a fantastic pass which led Brust perfectly.The guy who got the inbounds play was not the only option if I heard Ryan correctly....and Michigan will live and die with freshmen this year.

McGary may have been guarding against a football pass by someone getting off a pick and streaking to the basket.

The way the play worked out, it was difficult to foul because he could have easily gone into the act of shooting. I am not sure much could have been done.

Except to defend the inbounds.Beilein got burned a couple years ago by essentially the same play and same setup against tOSU.

 

[jomar]

I agree that you have to guard the man inbounding the ball. I thought this was generally accepted nowadays by almost any coach. and it would have prevented what happened here as the inbounder was almost falling down when he passed it. you can't let a guy catch the ball at midcourt with his momentum running towards his own basket. still a miraculout shot but it happens.scrump making fellow UM fans cringe in here....stop please

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I agree that you have to guard the man inbounding the ball. I thought this was generally accepted nowadays by almost any coach. and it would have prevented what happened here as the inbounder was almost falling down when he passed it. you can't let a guy catch the ball at midcourt with his momentum running towards his own basket. still a miraculout shot but it happens.scrump making fellow UM fans cringe in here....stop please

Covering the inbounds pass makes sense. Don't think the guy could have been stopped at midcourt since the pass was perfect. Again, hands up infront of the inbounder makes sense in hindsight.Gimme a break. Got into a stupid argument with many others....especially sparty honks. Apparently we don't see eye to eye....unpossible. No reason for any U of M fans to be "cringing" over it.

 

[pigskinliquors]

This was a Gosz camp, but probably a year or two earlier. I loved being around Majerus, what a great coach.

My first experience with him, was a keynote he made at the end of the first day. He watched all of the campers do defensive drills much of the afternoon, and started his speech, with saying something like,"After watching all of you play defense, I feel confident saying that none of you will ever play Division I basketball." I remember thinking how I was going to show him wrong, and know I worked my ### off on defense for the rest of the camp. At the Marquette camp, he asked for a volunteer to play man to man against him, to show proper defense. Darryl Flowers was one of the counselors (he was playing at Oregon State, but from Milwaukee)and stood up to take him on. Darryl took the ball at the top of the key, made one move, and blew past Rick for a dunk. Rick (mic'd), stated to all of us, now that is why we recruited Darryl as hard as we did. I remember thinking, well Majerus likely couldn't play D1 ball either.

 

[ACE]

Ok, this whole thing is insanity, and I usually don't insert myself into the middle of these things, but I'm going to throw my .02 in. This has already been stated previously by at least 2 other people, but the issue here is that you're interpreting Brust's comment to mean that he was pretty sure the shot was going to go in, which I really don't think is what he meant. I think what he meant was that he saw the hoop, got off a clean shot, and gave himself the best possible chance to make it. I don't think anyone would argue that that shot is anything but a prayer, but you're just being difficult if you think that for someone who shoots a lot of baskets, every shot doesn't fall somewhere on a scale between "ooof, no way that's going in" and "oooo, GD, that felt nice." Brust is saying the shot felt good to him coming off of his hand--it seems like you're grasping at straws to criticize the guy.Let me analogize to a different sport. Pro golfer hits a hole-in-one, and in an interview after the round he says that it felt good coming off of his club. Obviously nobody ever "expects" to hole a tee shot, and there is definitely a lot of luck involved, no matter how good you are or how much you have practiced that shot. Still, would you feel compelled to argue semantics with the guy if he says it felt good coming off of his club? This has also been stated by a few previous posters, but u mad bro.

 

[pigskinliquors]

Who ends up winning the Big 10? Looking at schedules, it is still anyone's to win/lose:MSU (2 losses)= MI x2; @ OSU and INDIN (2 losses)= @MSU, @ MI, @MN and OSUMI (3 losses)= MSU x2 and INDUW (3 losses)= @ MN, OSU, @MSU OSU (4 losses)= @ WI, @ IND, MSUIf anyone can end up with just 3 losses, they should have first place alone. With that said, it's hard to see somebody finishing with just 3 or less. I have to think the winner of IN at MSU on Feb 19th would have the upper hand, but MSU's schedule is pretty brutal. I'll pick MSU to beat IND, who hasn't lost at home all year. Yet, they could easily have two other losses (@ MI and @ OSU). Thus I'll predict...MSU 4 losses (lose @ MI and @ OSU)IND 4 losses (lose @ MSU and @ MI) MI 4 losses (lose @ MSU)WI 4 losses (lose @ MSU)For a 4 way tie!edited to add: I expect WI to probably lose at MN and probably against MSU as well, but I like the 4-way tie idea.

Anyone else want to make a prediction? 2 BIG games that will be going a long way to decide the Champion this week: UM @ MSU Tuesday, and WI @ MN Thursday.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Also on Brust's shot, he actually did shoot it too, he didn't launch it up there. If you watch the replay you can even see him following through

Please stop. Lauch heave whateverI'm a U of M fan, but not going to cry about the loss. Michigan should have found a way. However, you can talk until your blue in the face trying to call this something more than a half court heave and you'll be wrong. Watch the slow-mo from behind....he launches it alright. He "follows through" on his launch. And his body is headed toward the bench....he's shooting away from where he's headed. Credit to him for making the shot, but that isn't a shot you practice and "feel good about". lets call a a here.

So what's your point? You say you're not going to cry about it, but you're crying about what Brust said after the game? Who cares. Wisconsin won. Not sure what we're aruging about here.

Pointing out what Brust said and totally disagree with him.

Awesome. Have at it. Sounds like sour grapes to me.

 

[The Commish]

I'm going to assume this is a pretty good haul with some pretty bad bait

 

[QuizGuy66]

The FFA will argue about anything....holy crap!

No it won't. -QG

 

[jon_mx]

I'm going to assume this is a pretty good haul with some pretty bad bait

The right technique can overcome the poor quality of the bait.

 

[The Commish]

I'm going to assume this is a pretty good haul with some pretty bad bait

The right technique can overcome the poor quality of the bait.

And sometimes the catch is so dumb that you don't need correct technique.

 

[Keerock]

Who ends up winning the Big 10? Looking at schedules, it is still anyone's to win/lose:MSU (2 losses)= MI x2; @ OSU and INDIN (2 losses)= @MSU, @ MI, @MN and OSUMI (3 losses)= MSU x2 and INDUW (3 losses)= @ MN, OSU, @MSU OSU (4 losses)= @ WI, @ IND, MSUIf anyone can end up with just 3 losses, they should have first place alone. With that said, it's hard to see somebody finishing with just 3 or less. I have to think the winner of IN at MSU on Feb 19th would have the upper hand, but MSU's schedule is pretty brutal. I'll pick MSU to beat IND, who hasn't lost at home all year. Yet, they could easily have two other losses (@ MI and @ OSU). Thus I'll predict...MSU 4 losses (lose @ MI and @ OSU)IND 4 losses (lose @ MSU and @ MI) MI 4 losses (lose @ MSU)WI 4 losses (lose @ MSU)For a 4 way tie!edited to add: I expect WI to probably lose at MN and probably against MSU as well, but I like the 4-way tie idea.

Anyone else want to make a prediction? 2 BIG games that will be going a long way to decide the Champion this week: UM @ MSU Tuesday, and WI @ MN Thursday.

If I remove my bias cap, I think chances of a B1G title are in this order:1) IU - They could/should win out or lose only 1 game2) UM - Probably at least 1 loss, maybe 23) OSU - Likely at least one loss, probably 24) WISC - Easiest remaining schedule5) MSU - Most brutal schedule, at least 2 losses likely

 

[pigskinliquors]

Who ends up winning the Big 10? Looking at schedules, it is still anyone's to win/lose:MSU (2 losses)= MI x2; @ OSU and INDIN (2 losses)= @MSU, @ MI, @MN and OSUMI (3 losses)= MSU x2 and INDUW (3 losses)= @ MN, OSU, @MSU OSU (4 losses)= @ WI, @ IND, MSUIf anyone can end up with just 3 losses, they should have first place alone. With that said, it's hard to see somebody finishing with just 3 or less. I have to think the winner of IN at MSU on Feb 19th would have the upper hand, but MSU's schedule is pretty brutal. I'll pick MSU to beat IND, who hasn't lost at home all year. Yet, they could easily have two other losses (@ MI and @ OSU). Thus I'll predict...MSU 4 losses (lose @ MI and @ OSU)IND 4 losses (lose @ MSU and @ MI) MI 4 losses (lose @ MSU)WI 4 losses (lose @ MSU)For a 4 way tie!edited to add: I expect WI to probably lose at MN and probably against MSU as well, but I like the 4-way tie idea.

Anyone else want to make a prediction? 2 BIG games that will be going a long way to decide the Champion this week: UM @ MSU Tuesday, and WI @ MN Thursday.

If I remove my bias cap, I think chances of a B1G title are in this order:1) IU - They could/should win out or lose only 1 game2) UM - Probably at least 1 loss, maybe 23) OSU - Likely at least one loss, probably 24) WISC - Easiest remaining schedule5) MSU - Most brutal schedule, at least 2 losses likely

I don't know how you can put MSU down that far, or OSU up that high. MSU has a two game lead on them right now with only 7 games left. If you assume OSU even only has 1 more loss (they still play @ WI, @ IN and MSU), that means MSU would need 4 losses out of their last 7. I think MSU is playing too well right now, and Izzo has a way of making his teams get better down the stretch, too allow that to happen. I'd handicap the teams this way:1) IU2) MSU3) UM4) WI5) OSU

 

[Keerock]

Who ends up winning the Big 10? Looking at schedules, it is still anyone's to win/lose:MSU (2 losses)= MI x2; @ OSU and INDIN (2 losses)= @MSU, @ MI, @MN and OSUMI (3 losses)= MSU x2 and INDUW (3 losses)= @ MN, OSU, @MSU OSU (4 losses)= @ WI, @ IND, MSUIf anyone can end up with just 3 losses, they should have first place alone. With that said, it's hard to see somebody finishing with just 3 or less. I have to think the winner of IN at MSU on Feb 19th would have the upper hand, but MSU's schedule is pretty brutal. I'll pick MSU to beat IND, who hasn't lost at home all year. Yet, they could easily have two other losses (@ MI and @ OSU). Thus I'll predict...MSU 4 losses (lose @ MI and @ OSU)IND 4 losses (lose @ MSU and @ MI) MI 4 losses (lose @ MSU)WI 4 losses (lose @ MSU)For a 4 way tie!edited to add: I expect WI to probably lose at MN and probably against MSU as well, but I like the 4-way tie idea.

Anyone else want to make a prediction? 2 BIG games that will be going a long way to decide the Champion this week: UM @ MSU Tuesday, and WI @ MN Thursday.

If I remove my bias cap, I think chances of a B1G title are in this order:1) IU - They could/should win out or lose only 1 game2) UM - Probably at least 1 loss, maybe 23) OSU - Likely at least one loss, probably 24) WISC - Easiest remaining schedule5) MSU - Most brutal schedule, at least 2 losses likely

I don't know how you can put MSU down that far, or OSU up that high. MSU has a two game lead on them right now with only 7 games left. If you assume OSU even only has 1 more loss (they still play @ WI, @ IN and MSU), that means MSU would need 4 losses out of their last 7. I think MSU is playing too well right now, and Izzo has a way of making his teams get better down the stretch, too allow that to happen. I'd handicap the teams this way:1) IU2) MSU3) UM4) WI5) OSU

I like yours better Would love to see a 4 way tie, unless Sparty can pull out 3 wins of those 4 tough ones.Good point about OSU... I think I thought they only had 3 losses. Not so sure I could put them below WI, though.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Who ends up winning the Big 10? Looking at schedules, it is still anyone's to win/lose:MSU (2 losses)= MI x2; @ OSU and INDIN (2 losses)= @MSU, @ MI, @MN and OSUMI (3 losses)= MSU x2 and INDUW (3 losses)= @ MN, OSU, @MSU OSU (4 losses)= @ WI, @ IND, MSUIf anyone can end up with just 3 losses, they should have first place alone. With that said, it's hard to see somebody finishing with just 3 or less. I have to think the winner of IN at MSU on Feb 19th would have the upper hand, but MSU's schedule is pretty brutal. I'll pick MSU to beat IND, who hasn't lost at home all year. Yet, they could easily have two other losses (@ MI and @ OSU). Thus I'll predict...MSU 4 losses (lose @ MI and @ OSU)IND 4 losses (lose @ MSU and @ MI) MI 4 losses (lose @ MSU)WI 4 losses (lose @ MSU)For a 4 way tie!edited to add: I expect WI to probably lose at MN and probably against MSU as well, but I like the 4-way tie idea.

Anyone else want to make a prediction? 2 BIG games that will be going a long way to decide the Champion this week: UM @ MSU Tuesday, and WI @ MN Thursday.

If I remove my bias cap, I think chances of a B1G title are in this order:1) IU - They could/should win out or lose only 1 game2) UM - Probably at least 1 loss, maybe 23) OSU - Likely at least one loss, probably 24) WISC - Easiest remaining schedule5) MSU - Most brutal schedule, at least 2 losses likely

I don't know how you can put MSU down that far, or OSU up that high. MSU has a two game lead on them right now with only 7 games left. If you assume OSU even only has 1 more loss (they still play @ WI, @ IN and MSU), that means MSU would need 4 losses out of their last 7. I think MSU is playing too well right now, and Izzo has a way of making his teams get better down the stretch, too allow that to happen. I'd handicap the teams this way:1) IU2) MSU3) UM4) WI5) OSU

I could live with this, and i think at actually comes down to a tie for first place between Indy and MSU, UM losing to Wisc comes back to bite them and knocks them out by a game in the end. Agree Izzo has them playing at a very high level right now (9-1 since the Min loss). They are primed for a nice long NCAA tourney run.Of their remaining games, I can see them winning 5 out of the last 7, and perhaps 6 if they get lucky on the road against tOSU.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I don't know how you can put MSU down that far, or OSU up that high. MSU has a two game lead on them right now with only 7 games left. If you assume OSU even only has 1 more loss (they still play @ WI, @ IN and MSU), that means MSU would need 4 losses out of their last 7. I think MSU is playing too well right now, and Izzo has a way of making his teams get better down the stretch, too allow that to happen. I'd handicap the teams this way:

1) IU

2) MSU

3) UM

4) WI

5) OSU

I could live with this, and i think at actually comes down to a tie for first place between Indy and MSU, UM losing to Wisc comes back to bite them and knocks them out by a game in the end. Agree Izzo has them playing at a very high level right now (9-1 since the Min loss). They are primed for a nice long NCAA tourney run.Of their remaining games, I can see them winning 5 out of the last 7, and perhaps 6 if they get lucky on the road against tOSU.

yea man just izzo bein izzo. UM has shown their weaknesses, have peaked, are about to collapse, and literally have no shot tonight. Literally. No shot in the Izzone. Literally.

 

[Keerock]

I don't know how you can put MSU down that far, or OSU up that high. MSU has a two game lead on them right now with only 7 games left. If you assume OSU even only has 1 more loss (they still play @ WI, @ IN and MSU), that means MSU would need 4 losses out of their last 7. I think MSU is playing too well right now, and Izzo has a way of making his teams get better down the stretch, too allow that to happen. I'd handicap the teams this way:

1) IU

2) MSU

3) UM

4) WI

5) OSU

I could live with this, and i think at actually comes down to a tie for first place between Indy and MSU, UM losing to Wisc comes back to bite them and knocks them out by a game in the end. Agree Izzo has them playing at a very high level right now (9-1 since the Min loss). They are primed for a nice long NCAA tourney run.Of their remaining games, I can see them winning 5 out of the last 7, and perhaps 6 if they get lucky on the road against tOSU.

yea man just izzo bein izzo. UM has shown their weaknesses, have peaked, are about to collapse, and literally have no shot tonight. Literally. No shot in the Izzone. Literally.

Yeah. That's exactly what I extrapolated from his post too. Let's go back to the Katie Perry thread...

 

[The General]

Great game tonight, the crowd should be crazy. Sparty -1.5 kind of surprises me.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Great game tonight, the crowd should be crazy. Sparty -1.5 kind of surprises me.

Should be favored by 10+

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Great game tonight, the crowd should be crazy. Sparty -1.5 kind of surprises me.

Doesn't me. Every game from here on out will be tight. Home and Road.

 

[The Commish]

Great game tonight, the crowd should be crazy. Sparty -1.5 kind of surprises me.

Surprised me too. I think Michigan was favored at home by 9 or so over OSU. OSU was favored by about the same margin at their place. I think Indiana was favored by 7-8 when Michigan game to town. Gotta be all over Sparty here no??

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

MSU by 5 tonight..Go Green.

 

[Ilov80s]

After just giving away that Wisconsin game, I am concerned about how Michigan plays down the stretch. They have squandered some big chances late in close games. Can't do that and win in East Lansing.

 

[jon_mx]

MSU by 5 tonight..Go Green.

Yeah, MSU should win tonight. Michigan needs other guys besides Burke and Hardaway to step up of they want to have a chance. McGary has been stepping up, but big dog jr has disappeared.

 

[The General]

Great game tonight, the crowd should be crazy. Sparty -1.5 kind of surprises me.

Surprised me too. I think Michigan was favored at home by 9 or so over OSU. OSU was favored by about the same margin at their place. I think Indiana was favored by 7-8 when Michigan game to town. Gotta be all over Sparty here no??

That's what I was thinking. Breslin center should be going nuts and MSU has been playing their best ball. The over/under seemed low as well to me at 130.5.

 

[Garrett]

Pretty impressive...

 

[MAC_32]

I need ten drinks.

 

[Keerock]

Pretty impressive...

Best D Sparty has played all year. If UM doesn't get more of an inside presence, they'll have trouble in the tourney against big teams that can play D.

 

[cj*]

Epic ### whooping

 

[identikit]

I don't know how you can put MSU down that far, or OSU up that high. MSU has a two game lead on them right now with only 7 games left. If you assume OSU even only has 1 more loss (they still play @ WI, @ IN and MSU), that means MSU would need 4 losses out of their last 7. I think MSU is playing too well right now, and Izzo has a way of making his teams get better down the stretch, too allow that to happen. I'd handicap the teams this way:

1) IU

2) MSU

3) UM

4) WI

5) OSU

I could live with this, and i think at actually comes down to a tie for first place between Indy and MSU, UM losing to Wisc comes back to bite them and knocks them out by a game in the end. Agree Izzo has them playing at a very high level right now (9-1 since the Min loss). They are primed for a nice long NCAA tourney run.Of their remaining games, I can see them winning 5 out of the last 7, and perhaps 6 if they get lucky on the road against tOSU.

yea man just izzo bein izzo. UM has shown their weaknesses, have peaked, are about to collapse, and literally have no shot tonight. Literally. No shot in the Izzone. Literally.

You were correct here.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I don't know how you can put MSU down that far, or OSU up that high. MSU has a two game lead on them right now with only 7 games left. If you assume OSU even only has 1 more loss (they still play @ WI, @ IN and MSU), that means MSU would need 4 losses out of their last 7. I think MSU is playing too well right now, and Izzo has a way of making his teams get better down the stretch, too allow that to happen. I'd handicap the teams this way:

1) IU

2) MSU

3) UM

4) WI

5) OSU

I could live with this, and i think at actually comes down to a tie for first place between Indy and MSU, UM losing to Wisc comes back to bite them and knocks them out by a game in the end. Agree Izzo has them playing at a very high level right now (9-1 since the Min loss). They are primed for a nice long NCAA tourney run.Of their remaining games, I can see them winning 5 out of the last 7, and perhaps 6 if they get lucky on the road against tOSU.

yea man just izzo bein izzo. UM has shown their weaknesses, have peaked, are about to collapse, and literally have no shot tonight. Literally. No shot in the Izzone. Literally.

You were correct here.

Should have been obvious to anyone paying attention. At least I made money tonight.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Epic ### whooping

 

[Keerock]

Epic ### whooping

 

[The Commish]

Great game tonight, the crowd should be crazy. Sparty -1.5 kind of surprises me.

Surprised me too. I think Michigan was favored at home by 9 or so over OSU. OSU was favored by about the same margin at their place. I think Indiana was favored by 7-8 when Michigan game to town. Gotta be all over Sparty here no??

That's what I was thinking. Breslin center should be going nuts and MSU has been playing their best ball. The over/under seemed low as well to me at 130.5.

I rarely bet, but did last night.... all around