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Biggest Draft Bust (1 Viewer)

Walt Patulski and Mike Williams
Which Mike Williams?
There have been 3 players picked 1st overall and never played at all. And 3 others that only played in 1 season. They have Rogers beat.
I don't necessarily think so.Consider a fantasy draft. You draft in the middle, and go RB-RB in the first two rounds. Your first round RB quits before you hit the third round of your draft. That's a blow, but you KNOW that you have a weakness at RB and you have to shore it up. As a result, you grab another RB in the third round. Now, after the draft, your second round RB quits. That's an even bigger blow, because now you have a weakness and no quick and easy way to fill it- you're forced to trade for a fourth RB at a premium price. Now, the season plays out, and your third RB is the biggest tease in the world. Every week he's rated as far and away the best RB on your roster, so you start him, and every week he performs as the worst RB on your roster. You bench him a couple of times, but every time you do he blows up for 200 yards and 3 scores, so you plug him back into your starting lineup hoping he's turned the corner.All 3 RBs were busts, but I would argue that your first rounder was the smallest bust of the three, because his defection did the least damage to your franchise. You knew early enough that you could make plans without him. The second rounder was a much bigger bust, because by the time he left, you already had plans in place that included him. However, the third rounder was the biggest bust of all, because he not only cost a lot to acquire, but he repeatedly and consistantly cost you production at the RB position, because he was too much of a tease for you to bench. The third RB did the most to hurt your franchise.I think that's how NFL busts should be measured- by the damage that they do to the franchise in question. Using that standard, Ryan Leaf actually looks like less of a bust. He hurt the franchise both because he cost so much to acquire (not just the second overall pick, but ALL of the picks that the franchise shipped off for him). He hurt the franchise again because his struggles and the tease of his promise directly impacted their performance on the field. On the other hand, he wound up helping SD out, eventually... because it was the Ryan Leaf experience that made SD too trigger-shy to draft Vick, which directly led to them acquiring Tomlinson and Brees and becoming one of the best franchises in the NFL. Don't get me wrong- Leaf was a HUGE bust that DEVASTATED SD for a good 4 or maybe 5 seasons... but he also played a part, however small, in their rise to power.In those terms, Herschel Walker can be seen as a bust despite his solid career. His acquisition definitely hurt the Minnesota franchise. Anyway, using those terms, if Alex Smith - QB - SF winds up flaming out, and Culter, Leinart, and Young become the next "Class of '84", then I think Alex Smith will be perhaps the biggest bust of all time. Not only did he stink up the joint in SF, but he also cost them a chance at a truly stellar QB in his place.Not saying Alex Smith WILL be a bust, I'm just giving an example.
 
Up till now, had Tony Mandarich been the biggest bust?Leaf?
I think Mandarich is the biggest. Not only was he a bust, but the very next two picks after him were HOFers(Derrick Thomas, Barry Sanders).Ki Jana Carter was horribly injured and obviously Leaf sunk my Chargers.=[
 
Leaf, easily.

He didn't just lose games by sucking. He tore the whole team apart. By spitting on fans, yelling at reporters, getting into bar fights, lying to the coaches about his rehab, yelling at the stength coach and the general manager, and generally ailienating everybody within shouting distance, his effect on the team was much bigger than just a 14-36 TD-INT ratio. He was a constant distraction. There was no way the team could stay focused on football with him around.

Think about TO in Philly last year . . . and then consider how bad it would be if TO really sucked on the field as well.

That's Ryan Leaf.

 
Leaf, easily.

He didn't just lose games by sucking. He tore the whole team apart. By spitting on fans, yelling at reporters, getting into bar fights, lying to the coaches about his rehab, yelling at the stength coach and the general manager, and generally ailienating everybody within shouting distance, his effect on the team was much bigger than just a 14-36 TD-INT ratio. He was a constant distraction. There was no way the team could stay focused on football with him around.

Think about TO in Philly last year . . . and then consider how bad it would be if TO really sucked on the field as well.

That's Ryan Leaf.
But in Ryan Leaf's defense, if it weren't for Leaf, San Diego would currently be riding the Michael Vick Experience rather than the LaDanian Tomlinson Express.
 
Leaf, easily.

He didn't just lose games by sucking. He tore the whole team apart. By spitting on fans, yelling at reporters, getting into bar fights, lying to the coaches about his rehab, yelling at the stength coach and the general manager, and generally ailienating everybody within shouting distance, his effect on the team was much bigger than just a 14-36 TD-INT ratio. He was a constant distraction. There was no way the team could stay focused on football with him around.

Think about TO in Philly last year . . . and then consider how bad it would be if TO really sucked on the field as well.

That's Ryan Leaf.
:goodposting: It's one thing to perform badly, but when you set the franchise back years, THAT's a bust.

 
But in Ryan Leaf's defense, if it weren't for Leaf, San Diego would currently be riding the Michael Vick Experience rather than the LaDanian Tomlinson Express.
I think the Chargers passed on Vick more because they were stingy and felt they weren't interested in meeting Vick's contract demands more than they were gun-shy about using a top pick on a QB.
 
1. Bo Jackson, although he did well at Oak. he never playe a single snap for the Buc's. I don't see how you could get any worse of a value with a draft pick than the Buc's did with Bo.

 
Blair Thomas, picked ahead of Junior Seau and that short little RB from Florida.

In fact, other than Seau and Emmitt (and maybe Cortez Kennedy and Mark Carrier), the entire first round in 1990 seems to be a car wreck.

 
QUEZILLA said:
1. Bo Jackson, although he did well at Oak. he never playe a single snap for the Buc's. I don't see how you could get any worse of a value with a draft pick than the Buc's did with Bo.
Never playing a snap isn't bad at all. That's just zero value. It's not negative.
 

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