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Biggest Fears of a Biden Presidency (1 Viewer)

I’m not for a lot of what they stand for. But hey, the R’s did it to themselves for the most part.
Right, but I am asking more specifically what is it you think Biden stands for that is so bad?

I understand some of the apprehension for the AOC-wing of the party, but their influence is very limited in both houses of Congress. 
 

on the contrary, Biden is about as centrist as you will find in a politician these days. So what does he stand for that you think will harm the country (or your interests)?

 
Right, but I am asking more specifically what is it you think Biden stands for that is so bad?

I understand some of the apprehension for the AOC-wing of the party, but their influence is very limited in both houses of Congress. 
 

on the contrary, Biden is about as centrist as you will find in a politician these days. So what does he stand for that you think will harm the country (or your interests)?
Right off the bat, I think we get shut down 30 days.  I’m honestly trying not to make this a trump vs Biden deal (I left president blank the last two elections).  Im far more for US interests than global interests.    I don’t like that there are really many Biden supporters vs Trump haters (I understand that though).  When I think of the face of the D’s, it’s not Bernie.

 
Right off the bat, I think we get shut down 30 days.  I’m honestly trying not to make this a trump vs Biden deal (I left president blank the last two elections).  Im far more for US interests than global interests.    I don’t like that there are really many Biden supporters vs Trump haters (I understand that though).  When I think of the face of the D’s, it’s not Bernie.
Well then, I have great news!  I believe your fears are real, but unfounded.

First, congress does not have that kind of power, so control of congress is not an issue.

Second, its debatable whether the president would have that kind of power - but almost certainly not.  And, that is not how Biden operates.  Biden is very much a "Find a way to work together" politician - much to the chagrin of many left-leaning Dems.  In fact, Biden has already telegraphed how he will approach this - he is going to publicly encourage (i.e. not require) that people commit to 100 days of wearing masks and social distancing.  He is going to be very vocal and public about the importance of following these protocols to protect not just yourself, but your neighbor.  He is also going to work straightway towards fixing the vaccine distribution problems that have plagued the start of this roll-out.  Encouraging people to act responsibly and using the full force of the government to get people vaccinated is a far cry from a 30-day shut down.

 
We have to encourage people to act responsibly and they will do it?  Can’t say I have seen that in my work travels. Don’t forget about these peoples rights - just ask them.

 
We have to encourage people to act responsibly and they will do it?  Can’t say I have seen that in my work travels. Don’t forget about these peoples rights - just ask them.
I am confused.

You don't want to ask people to be responsible?

Or, you want the government to issue, and enforce, strict regulations relating to masks, social distancing, and business openings?

What rights are we forgetting?

 
Sinn Fein said:
I am confused.

You don't want to ask people to be responsible?

Or, you want the government to issue, and enforce, strict regulations relating to masks, social distancing, and business openings?

What rights are we forgetting?
Do you think if Biden asks, people will listen?  I think we are way past that.  

 
Do you think if Biden asks, people will listen?  I think we are way past that.  
I don't know if they will or won't.  (I suspect we will see more compliance as a result of a lot of factors).

But this started because you said you were worried that Biden and a Dem congress would impose a 30-day lockdown on the country.  Now, it almost seems that you think such a move is necessary as "people will [not] listen" to a request from the president.

It kind of feels like you are prepared to criticize Biden and Dems no matter what they try.   :shrug:

 
I don't know if they will or won't.  (I suspect we will see more compliance as a result of a lot of factors).

But this started because you said you were worried that Biden and a Dem congress would impose a 30-day lockdown on the country.  Now, it almost seems that you think such a move is necessary as "people will [not] listen" to a request from the president.

It kind of feels like you are prepared to criticize Biden and Dems no matter what they try.   :shrug:
Gut feeling, are you listening and obeying your president?  Have you for the last four years?   If people here in Michigan are not listening to Whitmer, why would they listen to Biden?  I'm resigned to the fate.  Its just like my accounts who honestly believe that the bars and restaurants would be open after 2-3 weeks, only to have them extended.  I've seen this act before.  

 
FairWarning said:
I’m not for a lot of what they stand for. But hey, the R’s did it to themselves for the most part.
The margins were probably too thin for this to happen anyway, but in order for us to move forward Republicans must reform. The only way that may happen is if they lose all of their power. I think it is in our best interests to deal with dem leadership until that actually happens. 

 
Right off the bat, I think we get shut down 30 days.  I’m honestly trying not to make this a trump vs Biden deal (I left president blank the last two elections).  Im far more for US interests than global interests.    I don’t like that there are really many Biden supporters vs Trump haters (I understand that though).  When I think of the face of the D’s, it’s not Bernie.
If your state gets shut down it will be because your governor shut it down.  The President can't do that on his own. :shrug:   

But, let's be honest, does "shutting down" as we do it matter all that much at this point?  People aren't going out as they see things shooting up.  If we could get them to make the connection that gathering at their friend/family homes is pretty similar as going to a restaurant/store it'd be a big win.

 
If your state gets shut down it will be because your governor shut it down.  The President can't do that on his own. :shrug:   

But, let's be honest, does "shutting down" as we do it matter all that much at this point?  People aren't going out as they see things shooting up.  If we could get them to make the connection that gathering at their friend/family homes is pretty similar as going to a restaurant/store it'd be a big win.
I can drive 10 minutes to Indiana to do the things I can’t do in Michigan.   Is Indiana safer?   Along the border from Illinois to Michigan the numbers are worse.  Are more people going to wear masks because Biden will give a pep rally to say so?  No.  I don’t have an answer.

 
I can drive 10 minutes to Indiana to do the things I can’t do in Michigan.   Is Indiana safer?   Along the border from Illinois to Michigan the numbers are worse.  Are more people going to wear masks because Biden will give a pep rally to say so?  No.  I don’t have an answer.
I don't know about any of this and it doesn't have anything to do with the "fear" that Biden was going to "shutdown" for 30 days (which is the post I was responding to).  He can't do that...it's not a legit fear.  Switch the concern to "I fear my Governor is going to 'shut down' again" and we are onto something and those discussions would be better served with folks in the same area as you, not with some shmuck (me) all the way in Florida....we are wide open and things are going miserably down here so......

 
Can I label myself a progressive but not consider myself associated with AOC or Sanders?

 
I understand some of the apprehension for the AOC-wing of the party, but their influence is very limited in both houses of Congress. 
 


AOC has the largest social media platform in all of American politics. She achieved that with exponential growth that allows her to enter the daily media cycle at will. She did that in one term. She has a 2nd class of "The Squad" that owes their seats and loyalty to her platform. She controls 8 HOR votes when the 2022 cycle predicts the HOR will flip Red. AOC controls two Senate votes ( Warren and Sanders), so that even if the DNC wins Georgia, they still need both of those votes to actually move any legislation forward.

AOC is 31 years old and is one of the most overwhelming voices in modern politics. The level of damage she can inflict in Congress is unmatched. She carries a level of pure political lethality backed by future generations of kids growing up staring into phones and an open grudge against the establishment. She has no subtlety and no actual charisma at all. It's basically bite sized Tweets that operate as blunt force trauma.

It's woke leftist arrogance that minimizes her platform. She doesn't need to win. She just needs to make it cost in blood and bone to oppose her. She's like Tommy from Casino. She doesn't need to be logical, or right, or to even make a point. She just needs momentum and someone standing in her way.

 
DJT has the largest social media platform in all of American politics. He achieved that with exponential growth that allows him to enter the daily media cycle at will. He did that in one term. 

DJT is 74 years old and is one of the most overwhelming voices in modern politics. The level of damage he can inflict is unmatched. He carries a level of pure political lethality backed by future generations of kids growing up staring into phones and an open grudge against the establishment. He has no subtlety and no actual charisma at all. It's basically bite sized Tweets that operate as blunt force trauma.

It's conservative arrogance that minimizes his platform. He doesn't need to win. He just needs to make it cost in blood and bone to oppose him. He's like Tommy from Casino. He doesn't need to be logical, or right, or to even make a point. He just needs momentum and someone standing in his way.

 

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