FairWarning
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I’m not for a lot of what they stand for. But hey, the R’s did it to themselves for the most part.Why is that a fear?
what do you think will be do bad about a Dem led government?
I’m not for a lot of what they stand for. But hey, the R’s did it to themselves for the most part.Why is that a fear?
what do you think will be do bad about a Dem led government?
Right, but I am asking more specifically what is it you think Biden stands for that is so bad?I’m not for a lot of what they stand for. But hey, the R’s did it to themselves for the most part.
Right off the bat, I think we get shut down 30 days. I’m honestly trying not to make this a trump vs Biden deal (I left president blank the last two elections). Im far more for US interests than global interests. I don’t like that there are really many Biden supporters vs Trump haters (I understand that though). When I think of the face of the D’s, it’s not Bernie.Right, but I am asking more specifically what is it you think Biden stands for that is so bad?
I understand some of the apprehension for the AOC-wing of the party, but their influence is very limited in both houses of Congress.
on the contrary, Biden is about as centrist as you will find in a politician these days. So what does he stand for that you think will harm the country (or your interests)?
Well then, I have great news! I believe your fears are real, but unfounded.Right off the bat, I think we get shut down 30 days. I’m honestly trying not to make this a trump vs Biden deal (I left president blank the last two elections). Im far more for US interests than global interests. I don’t like that there are really many Biden supporters vs Trump haters (I understand that though). When I think of the face of the D’s, it’s not Bernie.
I am confused.We have to encourage people to act responsibly and they will do it? Can’t say I have seen that in my work travels. Don’t forget about these peoples rights - just ask them.
Do you think if Biden asks, people will listen? I think we are way past that.Sinn Fein said:I am confused.
You don't want to ask people to be responsible?
Or, you want the government to issue, and enforce, strict regulations relating to masks, social distancing, and business openings?
What rights are we forgetting?
I don't know if they will or won't. (I suspect we will see more compliance as a result of a lot of factors).Do you think if Biden asks, people will listen? I think we are way past that.
Gut feeling, are you listening and obeying your president? Have you for the last four years? If people here in Michigan are not listening to Whitmer, why would they listen to Biden? I'm resigned to the fate. Its just like my accounts who honestly believe that the bars and restaurants would be open after 2-3 weeks, only to have them extended. I've seen this act before.I don't know if they will or won't. (I suspect we will see more compliance as a result of a lot of factors).
But this started because you said you were worried that Biden and a Dem congress would impose a 30-day lockdown on the country. Now, it almost seems that you think such a move is necessary as "people will [not] listen" to a request from the president.
It kind of feels like you are prepared to criticize Biden and Dems no matter what they try.![]()
The margins were probably too thin for this to happen anyway, but in order for us to move forward Republicans must reform. The only way that may happen is if they lose all of their power. I think it is in our best interests to deal with dem leadership until that actually happens.FairWarning said:I’m not for a lot of what they stand for. But hey, the R’s did it to themselves for the most part.
If your state gets shut down it will be because your governor shut it down. The President can't do that on his own.Right off the bat, I think we get shut down 30 days. I’m honestly trying not to make this a trump vs Biden deal (I left president blank the last two elections). Im far more for US interests than global interests. I don’t like that there are really many Biden supporters vs Trump haters (I understand that though). When I think of the face of the D’s, it’s not Bernie.
I can drive 10 minutes to Indiana to do the things I can’t do in Michigan. Is Indiana safer? Along the border from Illinois to Michigan the numbers are worse. Are more people going to wear masks because Biden will give a pep rally to say so? No. I don’t have an answer.If your state gets shut down it will be because your governor shut it down. The President can't do that on his own.![]()
But, let's be honest, does "shutting down" as we do it matter all that much at this point? People aren't going out as they see things shooting up. If we could get them to make the connection that gathering at their friend/family homes is pretty similar as going to a restaurant/store it'd be a big win.
I don't know about any of this and it doesn't have anything to do with the "fear" that Biden was going to "shutdown" for 30 days (which is the post I was responding to). He can't do that...it's not a legit fear. Switch the concern to "I fear my Governor is going to 'shut down' again" and we are onto something and those discussions would be better served with folks in the same area as you, not with some shmuck (me) all the way in Florida....we are wide open and things are going miserably down here so......I can drive 10 minutes to Indiana to do the things I can’t do in Michigan. Is Indiana safer? Along the border from Illinois to Michigan the numbers are worse. Are more people going to wear masks because Biden will give a pep rally to say so? No. I don’t have an answer.
I understand some of the apprehension for the AOC-wing of the party, but their influence is very limited in both houses of Congress.
Of course, but good luck with that while trying to communicate with the trumpers.JAA said:Can I label myself a progressive but not consider myself associated with AOC or Sanders?