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Dondante
Footballguy
What?! Gambling sites pushing the edge in their favor? Say it ain't so! I'd bet that not even 1% of the participants have the resources to turn the ridiculous profits these sites advertise. Bot? Probably not. Professional gambler? Uhh yeah. You think they're just going to roll over and give you guys this money? No chance.
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at the tinfoil hatters in here.... wow.
Bobby Guano
Footballguy
Hes like that guy from "Real Genius" that lives in the closet..
Hollifeld, Laslo Hollifeld.
Hollifeld, Laslo Hollifeld.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Rumor is that it's Zman, the GOAT fantasy player. He will explain his process to you step by step if you ask.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Online gambling sites = invite the public in to throw money at each other, then sit back and rake profits off the top.
With fantasy sports, it's unlikely that cheating mid-game could be hidden from plain sight (unlike poker). That would involve changing rosters or adding entries after games start. The other criticism of poker sites was that some players were entering tournaments multiple times with different IDs. Fantasy sports sites allow that, and even encourage it, so this is another "plain sight" factor - if you enter a contest only once, you should be fully aware that someone else might have bought a ton more lottery tickets than you did.
So, if there is a player with a ton of entries who is winning often, I see two scenarios:
1. That player is a member of the public who invests a lot of money and time, and therefore makes a profit by sheer volume of transactions. The same thing happens every day in a capitalist economy. It takes money to make money, and the cards are stacked in favor of the richest 1%. The other 99% are a longshot to change their fortune.
2. That player is "owned" by the house (the gambling website). If those entries are seeded by the house, they run the risk of having to pay out more than what they take in on a contest, ruining their rake.
It seems to me that scenario #1 is far more likely. Either way, the odds are against the casual gambler who just puts in a handful of entries a week.
With fantasy sports, it's unlikely that cheating mid-game could be hidden from plain sight (unlike poker). That would involve changing rosters or adding entries after games start. The other criticism of poker sites was that some players were entering tournaments multiple times with different IDs. Fantasy sports sites allow that, and even encourage it, so this is another "plain sight" factor - if you enter a contest only once, you should be fully aware that someone else might have bought a ton more lottery tickets than you did.
So, if there is a player with a ton of entries who is winning often, I see two scenarios:
1. That player is a member of the public who invests a lot of money and time, and therefore makes a profit by sheer volume of transactions. The same thing happens every day in a capitalist economy. It takes money to make money, and the cards are stacked in favor of the richest 1%. The other 99% are a longshot to change their fortune.
2. That player is "owned" by the house (the gambling website). If those entries are seeded by the house, they run the risk of having to pay out more than what they take in on a contest, ruining their rake.
It seems to me that scenario #1 is far more likely. Either way, the odds are against the casual gambler who just puts in a handful of entries a week.
steveski
Footballguy
I don't understand what the issue here is. I don't care if he's homeless or if he works for FanDuel or if he's Tom Brady. It's all still a guessing game as to who is going to score the most points. It's not like trading stocks and having insider information. There is no way to get insider information as to what is going to happen in the NFL as far as scoring fantasy points go. Nobody knows who is in for a big day, not even the players themselves.
There's really only 1 way of cheating in this game and that is changing your lineup after kickoff starts and I think that would be extremely obvious.
There's really only 1 way of cheating in this game and that is changing your lineup after kickoff starts and I think that would be extremely obvious.
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rockaction
Footballguy
I was going to make that comment about 12 Kicker Guy in the Subscriber Thread. Nice reference.
Remember the automatic pens and the sweepstakes?
jeaton6
Footballguy
Would it be extremely obvious though? I mean the big tourneys have 30k+ people. You would need to have somebody tracking select players or having the ability to download lineups once shown on the website and then again at different points throughout the tourney to see if anything has changed. Does fanduel provide users access to query that data?
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
But it does have a considerably smaller number of variables compared to the stock market, which means it would be easier to write some software that helps you plan rosters for thousands of entries. If you are willing to invest that much money per week, risk is not eliminated but it is greatly reduced.
Personally I just view it as a lottery with the illusion that a bit of skill is thrown in, so that makes it fun. I usually enter four or five of the $2 contests each week. If I win money, I know it is all luck.
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