fixedThis is getting more interesting by the day. Parcells is getting pissed and TO is being TO. and if this was the reg. season TO would be playing 100%. TO always has claims to have a hamstring injury and always is limited dogging it in practice but always plays in the game.
But this is how it always is with TO. Every blow-up has involved the media in some fashion. Do you honestly think that these questions from the media are going to stop just because Parcells doesn't like to hear them?To be honest, watching this everyday... he comes across as getting upset with the media asking redundant questions more so than upset at TO himself. I think it's not a big story. TO is close, I think we'll see him Mon night in limited duty.
This is part of the baggage that comes with TO. Whatever he does is a story, and Owens knows it. He plays to it. Why else do you think he wore the Lance Armstrong jersey and helmet while riding the stationary bike? Because he knows he's a story. Face it, Owens is not one to fade into the background and quietly go about his business...and the media, right or wrong, latches onto it. Sign TO, you get him and all the baggage that comes with him. And if Bill's sick of it now...well, they haven't even started the season yet.To be honest, watching this everyday... he comes across as getting upset with the media asking redundant questions more so than upset at TO himself. I think it's not a big story. TO is close, I think we'll see him Mon night in limited duty.
I agree. This is a disaster waiting to happen....again. And it couldn't happen to a nicer guy than Jerry.This is part of the baggage that comes with TO. Whatever he does is a story, and Owens knows it. He plays to it. Why else do you think he wore the Lance Armstrong jersey and helmet while riding the stationary bike? Because he knows he's a story. Face it, Owens is not one to fade into the background and quietly go about his business...and the media, right or wrong, latches onto it. Sign TO, you get him and all the baggage that comes with him. And if Bill's sick of it now...well, they haven't even started the season yet.To be honest, watching this everyday... he comes across as getting upset with the media asking redundant questions more so than upset at TO himself. I think it's not a big story. TO is close, I think we'll see him Mon night in limited duty.![]()
Not if he doesn't practice at full speed we won't.To be honest, watching this everyday... he comes across as getting upset with the media asking redundant questions more so than upset at TO himself. I think it's not a big story. TO is close, I think we'll see him Mon night in limited duty.
I think the point that you seem to be missing is that TO is already displaying the arrogance and self-centeredness that made him such a cancer in SF and Philly. And it's still the pre-season.Everyone is making such a huge deal over this. TO will be back at the end of the week preparing for N.O.
Since when does TO have the reputation of not practicing hard?? He is one of the hardest working players in the league.This criticism is bordering on ridiculous at this point. Yes, he hasnt practiced, but he will when the hammy is right. It's not like he is just sitting in the trainers' room taking a nap or is missing team and position meetings.fixedThis is getting more interesting by the day. Parcells is getting pissed and TO is being TO. and if this was the reg. season TO would be playing 100%. TO always has claims to have a hamstring injury and always is limited dogging it in practice but always plays in the game.
By riding a stationary bike because of a tweaked hammy??I think the point that you seem to be missing is that TO is already displaying the arrogance and self-centeredness that made him such a cancer in SF and Philly. And it's still the pre-season.Everyone is making such a huge deal over this. TO will be back at the end of the week preparing for N.O.
Ok, is it out of the realm of possibility that TO has a legitimate hammy pull? How is he being arrogant and self-centered? He's doing the same thing everyday that the other injured players are. Is Steve Smith self-centered and arrogant, hes been out a few days with a hammy?I know this guy's past as well as you, but come on.I think the point that you seem to be missing is that TO is already displaying the arrogance and self-centeredness that made him such a cancer in SF and Philly. And it's still the pre-season.Everyone is making such a huge deal over this. TO will be back at the end of the week preparing for N.O.
With a Lance Armstrong shirt and a biking helmet? Sorry, the guy's a self-centered attention hound that is only happy when the spotlight is bright and fixed squarely on him. Just like the last 2 teams he played for, he will destroy any team chemistry in Dallas. Count on it.By riding a stationary bike because of a tweaked hammy??I think the point that you seem to be missing is that TO is already displaying the arrogance and self-centeredness that made him such a cancer in SF and Philly. And it's still the pre-season.Everyone is making such a huge deal over this. TO will be back at the end of the week preparing for N.O.
There's an important distinction to be made here. TO conditions hard and he plays hard. That I agree with (although one wonders how such a wonderfully conditioned athlete has a hammy injury that keeps him out of practice but that we supposedly know won't keep him out of any regular season games). He hates to practice, and he's been known to take breaks from camp citing injury. That's what's going on here.Since when does TO have the reputation of not practicing hard?? He is one of the hardest working players in the league.This criticism is bordering on ridiculous at this point. Yes, he hasnt practiced, but he will when the hammy is right. It's not like he is just sitting in the trainers' room taking a nap or is missing team and position meetings.fixedThis is getting more interesting by the day. Parcells is getting pissed and TO is being TO. and if this was the reg. season TO would be playing 100%. TO always has claims to have a hamstring injury and always is limited dogging it in practice but always plays in the game.
I sure you did a lot of standing around, Babe. But I think its distracting.
Yes I found that funny as well... Poor BabeI sure you did a lot of standing around, Babe. But I think its distracting.This is like the 3rd shot Parcels has taken at him.
suchislife said:This is part of the baggage that comes with TO. Whatever he does is a story, and Owens knows it. He plays to it. Why else do you think he wore the Lance Armstrong jersey and helmet while riding the stationary bike? Because he knows he's a story. Face it, Owens is not one to fade into the background and quietly go about his business...and the media, right or wrong, latches onto it. Sign TO, you get him and all the baggage that comes with him. And if Bill's sick of it now...well, they haven't even started the season yet.texasheat said:To be honest, watching this everyday... he comes across as getting upset with the media asking redundant questions more so than upset at TO himself. I think it's not a big story. TO is close, I think we'll see him Mon night in limited duty.![]()
Fixed.Look, I understand why there is TO coverage. But it is just no interesting right now yet.
No need. "Right now" is the qualifier. If I thought it might never get interesting, I woulda left it off.But yours is right too. It's not interesting yet.Fixed.Look, I understand why there is TO coverage. But it is just no interesting right now yet.
You're absolutely right...that's always TO's out card. He always performs on Sunday. But let's keep a few things in mind....1. This is supposed to be TO's chance to redeem himself. His last(?) chance to prove that he's really a good guy.2. This is the first time in his career he's not in a West Coast offense. Its one thing to sit and read a playbook, totally different putting into action. How's that chemistry developing between himself and his QB?3. He's been out of action now for 2 weeks - with an injury that only he and *his* doctors have diagnosed. Didn't the Cowboys do an MRI that came back showing no damage?4. If he can't go during the team practice, why is he out there running after practice? Can't he work on the side with Bledsoe at the very least?5. If the media wasn't hounding Bill every day with TO questions, Owens would almost certainly do something else to get the media's attention. Remember TO "loves me some me". They are not just hollow words when he says that.The media is making a mountain out of a molehill. If Owens lines up against Jacksonville on September 10th ready to play, does all of this badgering matter?
If I was an NFL star stuck riding the stationary bike due to a tweaked hammy, I would abso #### inglutely hope that I could come up with schtick like Lance Armstrong and a bike helmet.CrossEyed said:With a Lance Armstrong shirt and a biking helmet? Sorry, the guy's a self-centered attention hound that is only happy when the spotlight is bright and fixed squarely on him. Just like the last 2 teams he played for, he will destroy any team chemistry in Dallas. Count on it.TheLaw said:By riding a stationary bike because of a tweaked hammy??CrossEyed said:I think the point that you seem to be missing is that TO is already displaying the arrogance and self-centeredness that made him such a cancer in SF and Philly. And it's still the pre-season.jcool said:Everyone is making such a huge deal over this. TO will be back at the end of the week preparing for N.O.
really?For the record....TO is practicing as we speak. Errr type.
Yupreally?For the record....TO is practicing as we speak. Errr type.
His teammates all knew he was doing that ahead of time. It's called humor. It makes training camp more palatable. If any other player did this everybody would say how great it was and how his teammates love him. Also note that he didnt wear the outfit the entire practice. Just enough to get the media and team to laugh.CrossEyed said:With a Lance Armstrong shirt and a biking helmet? Sorry, the guy's a self-centered attention hound that is only happy when the spotlight is bright and fixed squarely on him. Just like the last 2 teams he played for, he will destroy any team chemistry in Dallas. Count on it.TheLaw said:By riding a stationary bike because of a tweaked hammy??CrossEyed said:I think the point that you seem to be missing is that TO is already displaying the arrogance and self-centeredness that made him such a cancer in SF and Philly. And it's still the pre-season.jcool said:Everyone is making such a huge deal over this. TO will be back at the end of the week preparing for N.O.
Good posting!His teammates all knew he was doing that ahead of time. It's called humor. It makes training camp more palatable. If any other player did this everybody would say how great it was and how his teammates love him. Also note that he didnt wear the outfit the entire practice. Just enough to get the media and team to laugh.CrossEyed said:With a Lance Armstrong shirt and a biking helmet? Sorry, the guy's a self-centered attention hound that is only happy when the spotlight is bright and fixed squarely on him. Just like the last 2 teams he played for, he will destroy any team chemistry in Dallas. Count on it.TheLaw said:By riding a stationary bike because of a tweaked hammy??CrossEyed said:I think the point that you seem to be missing is that TO is already displaying the arrogance and self-centeredness that made him such a cancer in SF and Philly. And it's still the pre-season.jcool said:Everyone is making such a huge deal over this. TO will be back at the end of the week preparing for N.O.
And if I was a Dallas fan I'd hope I'd have something more toIf I was an NFL star stuck riding the stationary bike due to a tweaked hammy, I would abso #### inglutely hope that I could come up with schtick like Lance Armstrong and a bike helmet.CrossEyed said:With a Lance Armstrong shirt and a biking helmet? Sorry, the guy's a self-centered attention hound that is only happy when the spotlight is bright and fixed squarely on him. Just like the last 2 teams he played for, he will destroy any team chemistry in Dallas. Count on it.TheLaw said:By riding a stationary bike because of a tweaked hammy??CrossEyed said:I think the point that you seem to be missing is that TO is already displaying the arrogance and self-centeredness that made him such a cancer in SF and Philly. And it's still the pre-season.jcool said:Everyone is making such a huge deal over this. TO will be back at the end of the week preparing for N.O.![]()
Now think about this for a minute...SSmith's was a recurrance of an older injury. TO's was found by his doctors while the Cowboys MRI found no damage.Here's a statistic for you:Steve Smith: Hamstring injured July 30. Returned to practice 8/15.TO: Hamstring injured August 2. Returned to practice 8/16.Think about that and the media coverage surrounding both of them.
The Carolina coaching and training staff thought Smith actually had a legitimate injury that warranted that much time off, and I don't recall smith dogging it and defying his coaches' authority during camp last year as part of a self-promotion/negotiation routine. I'll keep all of that in mind when thinking about the respective coverage.Here's a statistic for you:Steve Smith: Hamstring injured July 30. Returned to practice 8/15.TO: Hamstring injured August 2. Returned to practice 8/16.Think about that and the media coverage surrounding both of them.
We'll see how humorous it is in a few months. I don't recall much laughter in Philly last year.His teammates all knew he was doing that ahead of time. It's called humor. It makes training camp more palatable. If any other player did this everybody would say how great it was and how his teammates love him. Also note that he didnt wear the outfit the entire practice. Just enough to get the media and team to laugh.CrossEyed said:With a Lance Armstrong shirt and a biking helmet? Sorry, the guy's a self-centered attention hound that is only happy when the spotlight is bright and fixed squarely on him. Just like the last 2 teams he played for, he will destroy any team chemistry in Dallas. Count on it.TheLaw said:By riding a stationary bike because of a tweaked hammy??CrossEyed said:I think the point that you seem to be missing is that TO is already displaying the arrogance and self-centeredness that made him such a cancer in SF and Philly. And it's still the pre-season.jcool said:Everyone is making such a huge deal over this. TO will be back at the end of the week preparing for N.O.
How long's Westbrook been playing in this offense? Think he needs to develop any chemistry? Has there been any indication that he doesn't have a legit injury? Think Andy Reid and Westbrook are talking about his injury? How the conversations go between Parcells and Owens? Have you heard Jeffery Laurie publically question Westbrook?Please, don't compare Brian Westbrook and Owens.so how's brian westbrook doing?![]()
I've been Pimping this guy since training camp began, get him now and don't look back!As far as the comments from Bill i.e.."I don't know, I haven't talked to T.O." Guys, Bill has said since day one he's not going to give the media any fire power as it pertains to T.O. Bill knows what's going one, he's talking to T.O, he's just not saying anything. Do we really think he doesn't know................come on. He knows if he says something, it'll be quickly taken out of context and then we'll have ourselves a circus.Therefore, I repeat, Bill is not going to give the media the chance or the oppurtunity to take him out of context, period.Free safety?Watkins will be a factor here. I don’t know about as a starter, but he will be in contention. I’ve been impressed with him. A very unique player. Never had or seen one that looks like this player at that position. I think that’s one of the reasons where he was drafted, because no one else has ever seen him either. He’s quicker than I thought he was and very fast and a tremendous wing span. Good ball skills and pretty smart. A 2 year starter at FSU, that’s good competition. Just looking at the film I think he’ll be an outstanding special teams player this year. Will he be ready to go when the lights go on? I don’t know. He’s a linear player physically. He’s 211 lbs., but I see him in the 219-220 range next year with the same speed. 6’5” 220 lbs is a physically formidable safety. I don’t know how this is all going to sort out yet, but Keith will be active in our defense and I hope that Watkins will be too.
I've been Pimping this guy since training camp began, get him now and don't look back!As far as the comments from Bill i.e.."I don't know, I haven't talked to T.O." Guys, Bill has said since day one he's not going to give the media any fire power as it pertains to T.O. Bill knows what's going one, he's talking to T.O, he's just not saying anything. Do we really think he doesn't know................come on. He knows if he says something, it'll be quickly taken out of context and then we'll have ourselves a circus.Therefore, I repeat, Bill is not going to give the media the chance or the oppurtunity to take him out of context, period.Free safety?Watkins will be a factor here. I don’t know about as a starter, but he will be in contention. I’ve been impressed with him. A very unique player. Never had or seen one that looks like this player at that position. I think that’s one of the reasons where he was drafted, because no one else has ever seen him either. He’s quicker than I thought he was and very fast and a tremendous wing span. Good ball skills and pretty smart. A 2 year starter at FSU, that’s good competition. Just looking at the film I think he’ll be an outstanding special teams player this year. Will he be ready to go when the lights go on? I don’t know. He’s a linear player physically. He’s 211 lbs., but I see him in the 219-220 range next year with the same speed. 6’5” 220 lbs is a physically formidable safety. I don’t know how this is all going to sort out yet, but Keith will be active in our defense and I hope that Watkins will be too.
So Bill saying "I don't know, I haven't talked to T.O." gives the media less then if he said "TO will continue to rehab his leg and he seems to be coming along".What does it mean when the owner says "TO has to learn how to practice at 75-80%" or when Bill says "we need to see him in here soon"? Just curious...because I'd really hate to see Bill, Jerry, and Owens turn this into a circus.As far as the comments from Bill i.e.."I don't know, I haven't talked to T.O." Guys, Bill has said since day one he's not going to give the media any fire power as it pertains to T.O. Bill knows what's going one, he's talking to T.O, he's just not saying anything. Do we really think he doesn't know................come on. He knows if he says something, it'll be quickly taken out of context and then we'll have ourselves a circus.Therefore, I repeat, Bill is not going to give the media the chance or the oppurtunity to take him out of context, period.
So Bill saying "I don't know, I haven't talked to T.O." gives the media less then if he said "TO will continue to rehab his leg and he seems to be coming along".What does it mean when the owner says "TO has to learn how to practice at 75-80%" or when Bill says "we need to see him in here soon"? Just curious...because I'd really hate to see Bill, Jerry, and Owens turn this into a circus.As far as the comments from Bill i.e.."I don't know, I haven't talked to T.O." Guys, Bill has said since day one he's not going to give the media any fire power as it pertains to T.O. Bill knows what's going one, he's talking to T.O, he's just not saying anything. Do we really think he doesn't know................come on. He knows if he says something, it'll be quickly taken out of context and then we'll have ourselves a circus.Therefore, I repeat, Bill is not going to give the media the chance or the oppurtunity to take him out of context, period.
Did Bill say this? Or Jerry? This is about Bill not Jerry. I said Bill is not going to give the media any fire power. One thing your not putting in your quotes are the actual questions asked. Some questions i.e. open end, he's clearly staying away from, now closed end, he some he does..........some he don't.The media has already started with the, why does Glenn have to practice with the sores on his feet and Elderado doesn't. Take it for what you will, I'm just stating what I've heard Bill say nothing more nothing less.So Bill saying "I don't know, I haven't talked to T.O." gives the media less then if he said "TO will continue to rehab his leg and he seems to be coming along".What does it mean when the owner says "TO has to learn how to practice at 75-80%" or when Bill says "we need to see him in here soon"? Just curious...because I'd really hate to see Bill, Jerry, and Owens turn this into a circus.As far as the comments from Bill i.e.."I don't know, I haven't talked to T.O." Guys, Bill has said since day one he's not going to give the media any fire power as it pertains to T.O. Bill knows what's going one, he's talking to T.O, he's just not saying anything. Do we really think he doesn't know................come on. He knows if he says something, it'll be quickly taken out of context and then we'll have ourselves a circus.
Therefore, I repeat, Bill is not going to give the media the chance or the oppurtunity to take him out of context, period.
That's cool. You've apparently heard Bill say he knows what's going on and he's not going to give the media any firepower. Funny cuz all I keep seeing on ESPN is Bill getting frustrated and saying he hasn't spoken to Owens.Eh, just having fun with ya. Bottom line is Owens is a self-made media circus and it looks like Cowboys fans are learning first hand all baggage that comes with him. If Bill's getting frustrated now just think, he's got 20+ more weeks to deal with it.Did Bill say this? Or Jerry? This is about Bill not Jerry. I said Bill is not going to give the media any fire power. One thing your not putting in your quotes are the actual questions asked. Some questions i.e. open end, he's clearly staying away from, now closed end, he some he does..........some he don't.The media has already started with the, why does Glenn have to practice with the sores on his feet and Elderado doesn't. Take it for what you will, I'm just stating what I've heard Bill say nothing more nothing less.So Bill saying "I don't know, I haven't talked to T.O." gives the media less then if he said "TO will continue to rehab his leg and he seems to be coming along".What does it mean when the owner says "TO has to learn how to practice at 75-80%" or when Bill says "we need to see him in here soon"? Just curious...because I'd really hate to see Bill, Jerry, and Owens turn this into a circus.As far as the comments from Bill i.e.."I don't know, I haven't talked to T.O." Guys, Bill has said since day one he's not going to give the media any fire power as it pertains to T.O. Bill knows what's going one, he's talking to T.O, he's just not saying anything. Do we really think he doesn't know................come on. He knows if he says something, it'll be quickly taken out of context and then we'll have ourselves a circus.
Therefore, I repeat, Bill is not going to give the media the chance or the oppurtunity to take him out of context, period.
and that's the problemThat's cool. You've apparently heard Bill say he knows what's going on and he's not going to give the media any firepower. Funny cuz all I keep seeing on ESPN is Bill getting frustrated and saying he hasn't spoken to Owens.Did Bill say this? Or Jerry? This is about Bill not Jerry. I said Bill is not going to give the media any fire power. One thing your not putting in your quotes are the actual questions asked. Some questions i.e. open end, he's clearly staying away from, now closed end, he some he does..........some he don't.The media has already started with the, why does Glenn have to practice with the sores on his feet and Elderado doesn't. Take it for what you will, I'm just stating what I've heard Bill say nothing more nothing less.So Bill saying "I don't know, I haven't talked to T.O." gives the media less then if he said "TO will continue to rehab his leg and he seems to be coming along".What does it mean when the owner says "TO has to learn how to practice at 75-80%" or when Bill says "we need to see him in here soon"? Just curious...because I'd really hate to see Bill, Jerry, and Owens turn this into a circus.As far as the comments from Bill i.e.."I don't know, I haven't talked to T.O." Guys, Bill has said since day one he's not going to give the media any fire power as it pertains to T.O. Bill knows what's going one, he's talking to T.O, he's just not saying anything. Do we really think he doesn't know................come on. He knows if he says something, it'll be quickly taken out of context and then we'll have ourselves a circus.
Therefore, I repeat, Bill is not going to give the media the chance or the oppurtunity to take him out of context, period.