Steve Tasker
Footballguy
looked to me like he was KTFO and might not have known where he was as they walked him off the field. He was facedown and motionless as he fell to the turf after the hit.
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looked to me like he was KTFO and might not have known where he was as they walked him off the field. He was facedown and motionless as he fell to the turf after the hit.
Nucker101
Footballguy
Good point.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
This is basically my takeaway too. Surely we look at a QB next year, right? (Of course, whoever we draft will inevitably be a bust, but that's a different topic).
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Should Chandler have caught that ball in the end zone before the INT? I missed the replay.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Geesh, and Graham had beaten his guy clean too. Fitz's noodle arm directly caused that last INT. Should have been an easy TD.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Not really. Tough throw and it was slightly off the mark. I wouldn't put it on either of them, it was a tough play and they just didn't connect.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
No. But I think I was one of millions who saw that Fitzpatrick INT coming. Imagine if Buffalo had a QB who was an average starter and their defense actually played up to their talent level.
Nucker101
Footballguy
He had a chance, but it would have been a pretty great catch if he had held on since he had to lay out and lunge for it on a rocket-type pass from Fitz.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Our undrafted softies cost us two timeouts, resulting in endzone shots they didn't even need to take with 40 seconds left.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
C'mon, really? We can blame Fred for the fumble at the goal line, but he looked unconscious on that 2nd fumble. Seems pretty harsh to call him a "softy".
Remember that great QB class of '04?
Eli, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Schaub and the Bills traded up for JP Losman.
A lot of people have been impressed with Buddy Nix, but his failure to address the QB position at all in the last couple drafts or free agency periods has been a huge negative.
That being said, the defensive performance (or lack thereof) is the biggest culprit for where this team is right now, not the QB play.
Looking forward to next year!
Eli, Rivers, Roethlisberger, Schaub and the Bills traded up for JP Losman.
A lot of people have been impressed with Buddy Nix, but his failure to address the QB position at all in the last couple drafts or free agency periods has been a huge negative.
That being said, the defensive performance (or lack thereof) is the biggest culprit for where this team is right now, not the QB play.
Looking forward to next year!
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
The thing that really sucks is that I'm really not impressed by this coming QB class. So even if the Bills draft one this year, I don't see any of them being top notch QBs. I'd almost rather go after Matt Flynn...
PatsFanCT
Footballguy
LOL, this really explains a lot. Thanks for the laugh guys.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I agree on 1st point, but I'd draft a few before I even considered Flynn.Flynn's another physical limited Fitzpatrick. (And even if you watch/watched that Packers/Lions game last year, you'd see those physical deficiencies. He was late on a number of throws, passes floated and should have been picked 2-3 times)
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
It would have been a spectactular catch. Chandler was well-covered so Fitz had to put the ball a ways in front of him.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Seriously? None of his draft classes have been particularly good, and he's as responsible as anybody for tying our fortunes to Chan Gailey and Fitz.
I think so.Whenever I question a move he makes, I get responses from some of my friends that they trust Buddy to make the right call when it comes to things like player evaluation.
Anyway, this is a good breakdown of the final play from Sunday:
http://wgr550.com/WHITE---Eye-in-the-Sky---The-Blame-Game/14777096
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I TOTALLY disagree with that assessment. Graham has already beaten his guy and the safety has ZERO chance to get there if Fitz throws straight deep to Graham in that second picture. Where Fitz threw the ball it was an easy INT for the safety even if Graham tries to cross in front as the safety is the one facing forward and breaking that way. All he has to do is take a step or two forward to step in front of Graham and either pick it off or break it up.I don't know how anyone can look at that second picture with Graham behind the CB and the safety in the middle of the field and not say that throw should be immediately zipped over the top to Graham. It would have been an easy TD if Fitz zips it over the top to the back quarter of the endzone. Why the receiver would run TOWARDS the safety when he's already open is beyond me.
two thoughts.#1 the safety isn't in the middle of the field. he's between the right hash marks and the sideline and set up a few yards past the goalline. looks like great position to prevent the deep pass, unless Graham was going to break towards the corner and then the throw/catch becomes a lot more difficult.#2 if the play calls for Graham to break in front of the safety, why would you expect Fitz to throw it behind him?
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Whizzinator
Footballguy
Because, as a matter of physics, there's almost no angle possible to do what you describe as the goal. Remember the angle here---from field-level what I think you'd see on that play is two players between Fitz and Graham and almost no daylight between the CB and Graham into which you'd try to go over the top. He was not 'already open' that I can see, and it does not seem (nor does the write-up describe) that the pattern was designed to take him anywhere that would make him so.Was trying to go over the top better than the actual pass--no question, it was a TERRIBLE pass in my view. But you are vastly overdescribing the opportunity there, too....Graham wasn't very open and there wasn't much of an opportunity unless the CB misplayed the ball in the air (certainly a possibility with the Pats secondary, no question)I think that article is a little too easy on Fitz, because to me you can tell Graham is covered on the route Fitz was throwing too...I get you have to throw the ball, but this was likely not the place to do so.
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
The play didn't necessarily call for Graham to break in front of the safety. It's a pre-snap read. He can either cut in front of the safety's face or run a go. Graham is single covered on that play with the safety in the deep middle. Or right middle if you prefer. The safety's first responsibility and read on that play are the two inside receivers. So it's simple man on the outside. That's a go route for the WR to beat his man deep every single time.
