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Bills release OT Langston Walker (1 Viewer)
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MCguidance
Footballguy
Will they bring Michael Jordan back to fill his spot? Sure hope so.
Buffaloes
Footballguy
Doubt it.He played guard, not tackle.
jwinston2
Footballguy
MCguidance
Footballguy
Crap, you're right.
Buffaloes
Footballguy
On a serious note, does this just about destroy any fantasy value Trent Edwards had? I don't see him holding up behind that OL all year and when he is in, I don't see him getting the time necessary to run the offense effectively.
What's the ETA on Owens' first blow up?
What's the ETA on Owens' first blow up?
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Snotbubbles
Footballguy
From TO?
MCguidance
Footballguy
I hope it doesn't destroy his value (I drafted him). I really thought Edwards took the next step this year - not sure he can with no protection.
T Man
Footballguy
Bills cut left tackle Walker; promote Bell
Posted on: September 8, 2009 4:11 pm
Edited on: September 8, 2009 4:29 pmScore: 175Log-in to rate:Log-in to rate: Log-in to rate: In yet another stunning move, the Buffalo Bills today released their starting left tackle, Langston Walker. That means the club will promote Demetrius Bell to a starter's job and move Kirk Chambers, whom it re-signed after releasing him over the weekend, to backup.
The move is the latest surprise for a team that opens next Monday, but as we learned last week **** Jauron is not afraid to make bold and risky moves. Bell is a young tackle the club believes can and will measure up to Jason Peters, the former Buffalo Pro Bowler the team shipped off to Philadelphia, and thinks his time is now. So it promoted him and let go Walker, who was a disappointment in preseason. The feeling is that if Bell hadn't suffered a back injury late last month this move might have been made sooner.
My thoughts:
Walker looked awful, but this can't be good news for the Bills RBs or Trent Edwards. Bell may develop, but he has to do that on the fly. The Bills better have a veteran Left OT's number on speed dial to call after the Pats game.
My guess is the Bills asked Walker to take a pay cut and he declined.
TO should be great to watch this year.
Posted on: September 8, 2009 4:11 pm
Edited on: September 8, 2009 4:29 pmScore: 175Log-in to rate:Log-in to rate: Log-in to rate: In yet another stunning move, the Buffalo Bills today released their starting left tackle, Langston Walker. That means the club will promote Demetrius Bell to a starter's job and move Kirk Chambers, whom it re-signed after releasing him over the weekend, to backup.
The move is the latest surprise for a team that opens next Monday, but as we learned last week **** Jauron is not afraid to make bold and risky moves. Bell is a young tackle the club believes can and will measure up to Jason Peters, the former Buffalo Pro Bowler the team shipped off to Philadelphia, and thinks his time is now. So it promoted him and let go Walker, who was a disappointment in preseason. The feeling is that if Bell hadn't suffered a back injury late last month this move might have been made sooner.
My thoughts:
Walker looked awful, but this can't be good news for the Bills RBs or Trent Edwards. Bell may develop, but he has to do that on the fly. The Bills better have a veteran Left OT's number on speed dial to call after the Pats game.
My guess is the Bills asked Walker to take a pay cut and he declined.
TO should be great to watch this year.
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BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
DaaaaaaaaaaBullsssss
Buffaloes
Footballguy
I'm right there with ya. I thought he was going to be a good value play given the WRs and Lynch out of the backfield. I doubt he has the time to take advantage of those WRs now.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
That's what I was thinking. Walker did a fine job at RT. Why not just move him back over there? He's gotta be better than Butler.And I like the potential of Bell. But I think we should've waited till next year to give him the job. At least wait till mid season to see how he is doing.
good times being a Bills fan.
btw, there are still only 2 rookies in the starting lineup. Bell was drafted last year.
I think Kirk Chambers might wind up starting this week anyway since Bell has been injured. Crazy that Chambers went from being cut to potentially starting the opener within a couple days.
btw, there are still only 2 rookies in the starting lineup. Bell was drafted last year.
I think Kirk Chambers might wind up starting this week anyway since Bell has been injured. Crazy that Chambers went from being cut to potentially starting the opener within a couple days.
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Just remember, nobody could believe that the Bills turned to former TE Jason Peters as their starting RT just a few years ago before they then switched him to LT. Bell is a project I know, but not all players start out as highly rated prospects. We will have to wait and see. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
Yeah, but that was when we had one of the best O-line coaches in Mouse. I was worried once he stepped down.
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bulger2holt
Footballguy
I can see Lynch catching 6-10 balls per game out of the backfield. When he returns, of coarse. I still like his value in a PPR.
bulger2holt
Footballguy
They may be forced to. 6 being low, and 10 being a high. Sjax caught 90 balls a few years ago.
The Jacket
Footballguy
I guess he could be better than what they have now, but he was awful last year. Absolutely horrendous in the running game. Right up there with Khalif Barnes as the worst in the league at it.
I'm not gonna dowgrade Lynch too much. Not that I think much of him, anyway.
I'm not gonna dowgrade Lynch too much. Not that I think much of him, anyway.
I'm not saying other options aren't an upgrade...but why take so long to make this move? With less than a week to go until the season starts and he's out?
Between this and the o-line coordinator being fired, this just screams dysfunctional team. I won't bet against an implosion...stay away from all Bills players at their current ADP's.
Between this and the o-line coordinator being fired, this just screams dysfunctional team. I won't bet against an implosion...stay away from all Bills players at their current ADP's.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I argued from the beginning that I thought Bell should be the starter at LT. So that doesn't bother me at all. Not sure why Walker didn't get moved to RT though. Although, after watching Walker get destroyed again and again and again in the preseason wasn't so fun. I guess they must actually like Butler at RT. I know they wanted to get faster on the O-line and Walker is HUGE. So maybe that was part of it.
The Bills are obviously desperate though. If Wilson was this demanding and wants to win this badly, he should have hired a true GM and a top notch coach instead shopping at Goodwill.
The Bills are obviously desperate though. If Wilson was this demanding and wants to win this badly, he should have hired a true GM and a top notch coach instead shopping at Goodwill.
I think they decided they are going to stink regardless so why not save $3.0 million and accelerate the learning process with Bell.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
Amen brother.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
I was about to post this.Bell has been mildly impressive, from what I've seen/read. I'm shocked about the move, but Bell was tagged to become the starter at left tackle either later this season or next....just a bit earlier than usual.Just kinda seems like a major cost-cutting move, like the Rhodes release. A guy underperforms...we're gonna suck....people are still gonna buy season tickets...why not?
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Yeah, that occured to me as well. Otherwise, why not at least keep him as a backup or slide him back to RT?Remember all the fanfare when Dockery and Walker were going to be the cornerstones of the Buffalo O-line for the next decade? And all the Bills fans couldn't believe how much we overpaid those guys? Sigh.
Clearly shows to this fan that we have another year of ****!
Bills_Fan11
Footballguy
Going on 10years of this crap...no wonder I've become such a fantasy geek.good times being a Bills fan.
TenTimes
Backhoe Operator
Did you Bills fans ever like **** J?
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
To be honest, I don't really mind him.I'll grant that he's certainly not the best coach, but many of the hardcore Bills fans I know seem to almost excuse the performance of the players to blame the coaching staff. The players suck. Flat out. They suck. Is some of that the coaching staff's fault? Sure. Is some of that the front office's fault? I'd say moreso than the coaching staff. That being said, I haven't yet said "that's it, they need to fire Jauron", but I inch closer to that sentiment every day.
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Jauron never should have made it past last season. When you see guys like Mike Shanahan and Eric Mangini getting dumped and yet the Bills keep Jauron around, it's hard to take this team's desire to win very seriously.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
I'd love if the Bills hired Shanahan, Cowher, pretty much half of the ex-NFL coaches who are available.I'm just not sure that installing Cowher as our HC would propel us to the playoffs immediately - he'll still have the same players. I believe the coaching staff does make a difference, but at the end of the day, if your players suck, they suck. Coaches in the NFL, IMO, per my limited experience working with former NFL assistant coaches, get a lot more credit than they deserve.Until the front office, starting with Ralph, start to show a real commitment to winning and go out and really, honestly make the team better, it's going to continue to be like this. Hiring a flashy, big time HC would be a great start, but hiring Bill Cowher and giving him the current Bills team isn't a solution.But the NFL is a business, and Ralph knows that there are tons of Buffalonians like me who will go out and buy season tickets every single year even if the Bills don't do jack #### to get better. So where's his incentive to win games, really?Just frustrating.
it's all connected.if management had been more proactive and were able to keep around key players like Pat Williams, London Fletcher, Nate Clements, Antoine Winfield, etc. then they would have been able to fill in the spots around those guys. I don't think they've drafted that poorly...they just don't keep guys around long enough to take advantage of them in their prime years.Jauron is a nice guy but also a boring, vanilla type of coach who doesn't flame out miserably so the team is usually competitive every year...but he seems to offer very little in the way of inspiration or innovation. I think he's generally hired good people around him too, but with him at the top they don't seem to get a chance to reach their full potential.I'm not sure they could get anyone that would be much better than him, but I do know that he is simply not the guy to take this team anywhere. I'd rather take a chance on an unknown rather than stick with the same, boring status quo.
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HockeyScotty
Footballguy
I always pull for the Bills, probably just because I identified with their Super Bowl losing seasons (being a Broncos fan) and some of my friends are Bills fans. But, the NFL business model in the last 10 years has left them behind.
I have completely avoided all Bills' offensive players due to their OL situation, and that was even 3 weeks ago.
But, faced with over-paying over-the-hill veterans or just throwing together your talented youth in a "trial by fire", it seems obvious the Bills chose the latter.
The Broncos did this 2 years ago, when they had to replace alot of the old guard with young talent. For a good stretch we had probably the weakest line in the league with Ben Hamilton out for the season. We ran a starting lineup of Erik Pears, Montrae Holland, and Chris Myers (Nalen played very little) alongside first time starter Chris Kuper and our lone stud Matt Lepsis (in his final season).
Kuper struggled alot, but is now a very good guard in the NFL, Myers, Holland, and Pears all were fairly sorry. We had to replace Lepsis with 1st rounder Clady the following season and Nalen with free-agent pickup Wiegmann. 2007 3rd round pick Ryan Harris went through growing pains in spot-duty as well, then blossomed into a stud RT in 2008. Myers, Holland, and Pears were one-and-done players.
Not that the Bills situation is exactly similar but I see more teams having to just burn a season putting their o-line into the line of fire in order to forge a strong unit. Hopefully this does happen in Buffalo and Jauron can survive it, but Shanahan didn't survive the residual effect of a really bad 2007 season alongside a mediocre 2008 from the defense. If they had just plugged the holes in the line with high priced free agents, we would be back in that same situation in 2009 after spending alot more money in the process.
Hopefully Bell, Butler, Levitre, Wood, and Hangartner all can be forged into a unit and emerge as an above average line next season; as there is very little chance that enough of them will exceed expectations this season for the unit as a whole to be successful.
I have completely avoided all Bills' offensive players due to their OL situation, and that was even 3 weeks ago.
But, faced with over-paying over-the-hill veterans or just throwing together your talented youth in a "trial by fire", it seems obvious the Bills chose the latter.
The Broncos did this 2 years ago, when they had to replace alot of the old guard with young talent. For a good stretch we had probably the weakest line in the league with Ben Hamilton out for the season. We ran a starting lineup of Erik Pears, Montrae Holland, and Chris Myers (Nalen played very little) alongside first time starter Chris Kuper and our lone stud Matt Lepsis (in his final season).
Kuper struggled alot, but is now a very good guard in the NFL, Myers, Holland, and Pears all were fairly sorry. We had to replace Lepsis with 1st rounder Clady the following season and Nalen with free-agent pickup Wiegmann. 2007 3rd round pick Ryan Harris went through growing pains in spot-duty as well, then blossomed into a stud RT in 2008. Myers, Holland, and Pears were one-and-done players.
Not that the Bills situation is exactly similar but I see more teams having to just burn a season putting their o-line into the line of fire in order to forge a strong unit. Hopefully this does happen in Buffalo and Jauron can survive it, but Shanahan didn't survive the residual effect of a really bad 2007 season alongside a mediocre 2008 from the defense. If they had just plugged the holes in the line with high priced free agents, we would be back in that same situation in 2009 after spending alot more money in the process.
Hopefully Bell, Butler, Levitre, Wood, and Hangartner all can be forged into a unit and emerge as an above average line next season; as there is very little chance that enough of them will exceed expectations this season for the unit as a whole to be successful.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Good thing they got rid of Jason Peters.
This franchise is a complete joke right now.
This franchise is a complete joke right now.
jeffismagic
Footballguy
From a fantasy perspective I would UPGRADE any Bills involved in the passing game. Demetrius Bell is 10 X the athlete Walker is and is a lot farther along than people realize. A left tackle's job is to match up against the other team's best pass-rusher and Bell is just plain better.
I would stay away from the Bills running game still because they may have young talent but there is no cohesion yet.
I would stay away from the Bills running game still because they may have young talent but there is no cohesion yet.
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