Blackjacks top 10 Qb's Rb's and Wr's (1 Viewer)

[Blackjacks]

Rip away

I will just say this. At the end of the year this is how I see it ending up. I would still draft for value so "NO" I probably wouldnt draft Bradford that early due to thinking I could get him later. I really do see some nice value plays this year.

Michael Vick - pure and simple the scariest player to play against in ff

Aaron Rodgers - its Rodgers time

Phillip Rivers - not only in fantasy but I think Phillip gets his team to the superbowl this year

Tony Romo - This years Drew Brees....this offense is ready to go

Matt Ryan - I love the weapons around him and I see the running game struggling this year which should inflate his numbers.

Tom Brady - He is alittle lower than usual cause I dont believe in Ocho or Chad or whoever he is now days but Brady is still solid

Sam Bradford - Maybe alittle bit of a homer here but I think Bradford is the next big thing in the NFL and in fantasy. McDaniels offense is made for ff

Drew Brees - a bit of a drop due to a better running attack this year

Peyton Manning - Injuries to him and stars on the offense are getting older. I am sure I will be wrong but Peyton might drop alittle from his usual top 5

Matt Schaub - Great offense and not a great defense (better but not great). Gonna be in shootouts and Schaub is very accurate

Adrian Peterson - He has lost alot of his line but AP is still the man

Ray Rice - No McGahee will be huge for Rice's #'s. TD's should finally come his way

Lesean McCoy - I think McCoy will take advantage of everything else going on in PHILLY. He can run, catch and get td's. An all around threat.

Frank Gore - The best buy low rb in the league this year IMO. You can get him in the bottom of the first and ride him to a championship. The whole offense goes through him. Big year for Gore.

Chris Johnson - Bit of as drop but I want to see how the coaching staff approaches the offense before drafting a guy in the top 5. Still a stud

Rashead Mendenhall - Might not be as flashy as some others but very reliable

Darren McFadden - Showed alot of talent last year and Hue Jackson is going to highlight him more this year

Arian Foster - I know he was great last year but I still am not totally sold. Do it 2 years in a row and I will show more respect

Matt Forte - Just puts up numbers. He is in a very good offense for his skill set. Martz finds ways to get himt he ball. Oline is alittle improved this year.

Felix Jones - Again, I lovet his offense this year. I dont believe in Murray and while I like Choice he isnt in the same ballpark with Felix talentwise. BIG SLEEPER here.

Larry Fitzgerald - Look at what he did with crap at qb. I am not saying Kolb is a top 5 qb but he will get Larry the ball. Larry IMO is th emost talented wr in the game and should get enough targets this year to put up some big numbers.

Calvin Johnson - Of course I am assuming Stafford stays healthy. Megatron got bigger thsi year if you can imagine. Another 10 pounds fo muscle. WOW

Andre Johnson - Just a stud. A better running game drops his numbers alittle

Vincent Jackson - A great qb should help his big leap this year.

Roddy White - interested to see how Julio affects Roddy. Still very reliable but I think Julio is going to be a stud

Hakeem Nicks - Great redzone target and Eli has his #

Desean Jackson - When this guy gets his hands on the ball watchout. While I might not be a big fan of his I do appreciate his talent

Santonio Holmes - Very underrated in ff. Sanchez is getting better and he will get the targetst his year to break into the top 10

Greg Jennings - I am alittle worried about his targets if Finley can stay healthy. I really like Jennings but there are gonna have to be alot of balls in GB to keep everyone happy

Dez Bryant - And Again, I like this offense. Dez makes the jump a year early. Just too much talent not to be a stud

 

[IndyHavoc]

I'll jump in and make the obvious statement: No JC? Personally I agree with you nearly 100%...let's call it 90%. He'll be fine, but I think DC's have sat up and have to account for him in their gameplan week-in and week-out. His numbers across the board will be down and he's much more likely to finish in the 10-18 range.

 

[gbill2004]

No Reggie Wayne??

 

[Pipes]

I like the fact you went out on a limb with some of your picks. Some I agree with but the one I just can't wrap my head around is the Felix Jones in the top 10. I've tasted this kool aid the last couple of years and have been extremely dissapointed. What makes you think this is the year for him?

 

[shortbow]

Tom Brady - He is alittle lower than usual cause I dont believe in Ocho or Chad or whoever he is now days but Brady is still solid

Lol hes done more with less than anybody else, how does adding an elite WR to a system that didnt need him move him down?

 

[Blackjacks]

I like the fact you went out on a limb with some of your picks. Some I agree with but the one I just can't wrap my head around is the Felix Jones in the top 10. I've tasted this kool aid the last couple of years and have been extremely dissapointed. What makes you think this is the year for him?

1) I love his talent (which I have in the past and its burned me) but this year I also....2) Love his situation (Marber is gone and Murray is overrated. I do like Choice like I said but he isnt on the same level of talent as Jones)3) Coaching Coaching Coaching.......... The offense is going to be wide open and with those weapons in the recieving game he will have huge gaps to run through. He also will catch a ton of balls.4) His conditioning, he put on alot of weight last year to help with his durabilty but slowed down his big play ability. He has shed that weight and is back to his normal weight.

 

[Blackjacks]

Tom Brady - He is alittle lower than usual cause I dont believe in Ocho or Chad or whoever he is now days but Brady is still solid

Lol hes done more with less than anybody else, how does adding an elite WR to a system that didnt need him move him down?

Brady finished #6 last year and I have him #7 so I dont see that as really disrespectful.I just really dont believe Chad is elite anymore

 

[Blackjacks]

No Reggie Wayne??

Wayne was 9 last year and that was with no Dallas Clark. I see Clark taking some of his targets and if Collie can stay healthy I see him taking alot also.Also the health of Manning scares meI will let someone else draft him based on his name

 

[Banger]

I like the fact you went out on a limb with some of your picks. Some I agree with but the one I just can't wrap my head around is the Felix Jones in the top 10. I've tasted this kool aid the last couple of years and have been extremely dissapointed. What makes you think this is the year for him?

It's a good offense, he's the starter with Barber now gone, he's talented. It happens every single year, the guy that has been a bust "gets it", turns it around, whatever. Every year. Benson, McFadden, Mendenhall, etc. It'll happen this year and it may be him and it may not but one thing I've learned is that you have to open your eyes and ears each year and try to check your bias's at the door.

 

[gbill2004]

No Reggie Wayne??

Wayne was 9 last year and that was with no Dallas Clark. I see Clark taking some of his targets and if Collie can stay healthy I see him taking alot also.Also the health of Manning scares meI will let someone else draft him based on his name

Wayne finished #6 in my PPR league. And look at his numbers from last season, they were actually better when Collie and Clark were in the lineup.

 

[SproutDaddy]

In no way will Matt Ryan finish that high.

Replace Harvin with DJax.

 

[lakermadness07]

Mike Wallace???

 

[shortbow]

Tom Brady - He is alittle lower than usual cause I dont believe in Ocho or Chad or whoever he is now days but Brady is still solid

Lol hes done more with less than anybody else, how does adding an elite WR to a system that didnt need him move him down?

Brady finished #6 last year and I have him #7 so I dont see that as really disrespectful.I just really dont believe Chad is elite anymore

In every league im in Brady finished either first or third. The only difference is they all give 6pts per pass td and one of them gives .1 pt per completion (-.1 per incomplete pass).I just checked, even in 4pt per passing touchdown leagues Brady finished 3rd...

 

[ThePittbully]

No Jamal Charles, but Felix Jones makes the cut? No Mike Wallace? Drew Brees below Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford? Tom Brady also lower than Matt Ryan? No way Matt Ryan outscores Brees and Brady, I'll put my life on that. I also don't think its very likely Santonio Holmes outscores Greg Jennings, in fact I'm pretty doubtful he makes top 10

 

[thehornet]

Tom Brady - He is alittle lower than usual cause I dont believe in Ocho or Chad or whoever he is now days but Brady is still solid

Lol hes done more with less than anybody else, how does adding an elite WR to a system that didnt need him move him down?

Brady finished #6 last year and I have him #7 so I dont see that as really disrespectful.I just really dont believe Chad is elite anymore

If Brady finished 6th in your leagues, then your leagues are broken.

 

[sihaokills]

No Charles???

 

[ClownDogs]

Tom Brady - He is alittle lower than usual cause I dont believe in Ocho or Chad or whoever he is now days but Brady is still solid

Lol hes done more with less than anybody else, how does adding an elite WR to a system that didnt need him move him down?

Brady finished #6 last year and I have him #7 so I dont see that as really disrespectful.I just really dont believe Chad is elite anymore

If Brady finished 6th in your leagues, then your leagues are broken.

Brady finished 5th in my leauges?I am somewhat surprised by Jamal Charles not being on the list, just don't see anyway possible he is not top 10(i think top 5) barring an injury.WR, i would take out DJax and add Wallace.Nice list though overall.

 

[Blackjacks]

I should have clarified my point system

1 pt 20 yards passing 1 pt 10 yards rushing or receiving 3 point passing td's and 6 for every other kind

Brady was behind Manning Rodgers Vick Brees and Rivers.

The other 3 similiar arguements are No Wayne, NO Charles and No Wallace. Let me explain

I have liked Reggie Wayne for quite some time and he has always been very reliable but like I stated I see a down year for Peyton due to injuries and for Wayne's purposes he has so much competition for the ball while everyone is healthy. I really see Collie (if healthy) as big competition for Wayne's touches and Dallas Clark is definetly going to get his. Throw in some Pierre Garcon and Anthony Gonzalez and Addai and I don't want to risk a high pick on him.

Jamal Charles IMO is the most overrated player in ff. I know he is fast but I still see him as a great complimentaery back instead of a full time guy. He has had 1 very good year and if he has another one maybe I can warm up to him but I dont think its crazy to put every back I did infront of him based on skill, oppurtunity, duribility and track record. The only guy you can argue in Felix and I like everything about Felix's outlook thisyear more than Jamal.

Mike Wallace is a very good player and would probably be 11 or 12. He has become Big Ben's go to go guy and except for being alittle inconsistant (catch the long ball or nothing) he should be a good player to draft.

And as for those people question the Bradford and Matt Ryan ranking all I will say is Kyle Orton was I believe in my league the #1 rated qb in ff until McDaniels got fired and thats Kyle Orton. Bradford has much more talent and his offensive weapons are getting much better. I see big Big Things out of Bradford this year.

Matt Ryan finished 11th last year. Like I said I see the running game being much more ineffective this year so I bump up the passing attack. I think Matty Ice has the tools to be a very qb I think just think their offensive scheme is alittle more vanilla. If they are losing games this year compared to winning most of the m last year Matty is gonna have to throw alittle more int he second half. I dont know if Julio is going to be dominant this year or not but the guy is going to be a stud.

I can see why people dont agree with these and thats fine but I just hate it when people say the "guarantee this or that wont happen" In fantasy football there are no guarantees.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Tom Brady - He is alittle lower than usual cause I dont believe in Ocho or Chad or whoever he is now days but Brady is still solid

Lol hes done more with less than anybody else, how does adding an elite WR to a system that didnt need him move him down?

I missed this transaction. Who did they sign that is elite?

 

[lazyike]

Gore hasn't played a full 16 games since 2006. Love him when he's healthy especially in PPR but now at the age of 28 following hip surgery, riding that wreck to the championship would be a miracle. Too risky for a 1st or 2nd round pick IMO

 

[Winning IS Everything]

Tom Brady - He is alittle lower than usual cause I dont believe in Ocho or Chad or whoever he is now days but Brady is still solid

Lol hes done more with less than anybody else, how does adding an elite WR to a system that didnt need him move him down?

Brady finished #6 last year and I have him #7 so I dont see that as really disrespectful.I just really dont believe Chad is elite anymore

If Brady finished 6th in your leagues, then your leagues are broken.

Brady finished 5th in my leauges?I am somewhat surprised by Jamal Charles not being on the list, just don't see anyway possible he is not top 10(i think top 5) barring an injury.WR, i would take out DJax and add Wallace.Nice list though overall.

He finished 5th in mine also, and was only 1 point ahead of the #6 guy (P. Manning).

 

[scrumptrulescent]

What, no room to cram Miles Austin on the list?

Nice to see some thought put into top 10's. Thanks.

 

[shortbow]

I should have clarified my point system1 pt 20 yards passing 1 pt 10 yards rushing or receiving 3 point passing td's and 6 for every other kindBrady was behind Manning Rodgers Vick Brees and Rivers.The other 3 similiar arguements are No Wayne, NO Charles and No Wallace. Let me explainI have liked Reggie Wayne for quite some time and he has always been very reliable but like I stated I see a down year for Peyton due to injuries and for Wayne's purposes he has so much competition for the ball while everyone is healthy. I really see Collie (if healthy) as big competition for Wayne's touches and Dallas Clark is definetly going to get his. Throw in some Pierre Garcon and Anthony Gonzalez and Addai and I don't want to risk a high pick on him.Jamal Charles IMO is the most overrated player in ff. I know he is fast but I still see him as a great complimentaery back instead of a full time guy. He has had 1 very good year and if he has another one maybe I can warm up to him but I dont think its crazy to put every back I did infront of him based on skill, oppurtunity, duribility and track record. The only guy you can argue in Felix and I like everything about Felix's outlook thisyear more than Jamal.Mike Wallace is a very good player and would probably be 11 or 12. He has become Big Ben's go to go guy and except for being alittle inconsistant (catch the long ball or nothing) he should be a good player to draft.And as for those people question the Bradford and Matt Ryan ranking all I will say is Kyle Orton was I believe in my league the #1 rated qb in ff until McDaniels got fired and thats Kyle Orton. Bradford has much more talent and his offensive weapons are getting much better. I see big Big Things out of Bradford this year.Matt Ryan finished 11th last year. Like I said I see the running game being much more ineffective this year so I bump up the passing attack. I think Matty Ice has the tools to be a very qb I think just think their offensive scheme is alittle more vanilla. If they are losing games this year compared to winning most of the m last year Matty is gonna have to throw alittle more int he second half. I dont know if Julio is going to be dominant this year or not but the guy is going to be a stud.I can see why people dont agree with these and thats fine but I just hate it when people say the "guarantee this or that wont happen" In fantasy football there are no guarantees.

I dont know why you would do a list thread where all your predictions arent from standard scoring or a league setting that more than one league uses?In standard Vick finished #1 (11 more points than brady) and rodgers finished #2 (3 more points than brady).Dunno if you missed it or not, but Brady was easily the best QB in the NFL last year. and fantasy wise he finished top 3.

 

[Tchula]

Brees is a better passer when the Saints have a solid run game. Look at 2009.

 

[Blackjacks]

I dont know why you would do a list thread where all your predictions arent from standard scoring or a league setting that more than one league uses?

In standard Vick finished #1 (11 more points than brady) and rodgers finished #2 (3 more points than brady).

Dunno if you missed it or not, but Brady was easily the best QB in the NFL last year. and fantasy wise he finished top 3.

So since it happened last year it will happen again?

Are you taking Brandon Lloyd as your #1 wr.....he was last year.

I dont know what would be considered standard scoring now a days. Everyone has different scoring. Maybe alot of people do your scoring and alot do mine.

 

[identikit]

So since it happened last year it will happen again?

Are you taking Brandon Lloyd as your #1 wr.....he was last year.

I dont know what would be considered standard scoring now a days. Everyone has different scoring. Maybe alot of people do your scoring and alot do mine.

I seriously doubt many leagues have passing TDs @ 3 points per.

 

[shortbow]

So since it happened last year it will happen again?

Are you taking Brandon Lloyd as your #1 wr.....he was last year.

I dont know what would be considered standard scoring now a days. Everyone has different scoring. Maybe alot of people do your scoring and alot do mine.

What kind of counterpoint is this? Im aware of his past performances in the NFL, he has been underrated every year. Out of the past 4 years in the NFL Tom Brady has been the unanimous best QB in the NFL twice and blew his knee once and yet is consistently rated in the 5-6 range. I can understand the argument even though I disagree with it for Vick and Manning, but I find it very hard to believe that Rodgers, Romo, Rivers and Ryan are gonna finish ahead of Brady this year, especially when there is no point being made at all except that adding Chad Johnson to the pats wont be a big boost to their performance. Which is neither here nor there when it comes to this argument because as you can see from last years season they didnt need a stud wr, they brought branch in (who is nowhere near as good as Chad Johnson) and he put up 48/705/5 on only 12 games (which extrapolated over a full season comes to, 64/940/6.5)

I dont know what would be considered standard scoring now a days. Everyone has different scoring. Maybe alot of people do your scoring and alot do mine.

I usually post my predictions with numbers instead of rankings because not everyone uses standard but if your going to post it by a ranking system qualify it with the settings. Standard scoring has 1pt per 25 passing yards and 4 pts per passing touchdown. Under standard scoring Vick, Rodgers, Brady were the top 3 and under 6pt per passing TD scoring Brady finished #1.

 

[gethugefast1]

I'm suprised you don't have Miles Austin & Dez Bryant in there...oh wait you do have Dez...

Cowboy fan?

 

[Blackjacks]

I'm suprised you don't have Miles Austin & Dez Bryant in there...oh wait you do have Dez...

Cowboy fan?

Nope, not at all but I do like their team this year and I love Dez's upside

 

[Blackjacks]

I usually post my predictions with numbers instead of rankings because not everyone uses standard but if your going to post it by a ranking system qualify it with the settings. Standard scoring has 1pt per 25 passing yards and 4 pts per passing touchdown. Under standard scoring Vick, Rodgers, Brady were the top 3 and under 6pt per passing TD scoring Brady finished #1.

That makes sense. I am in different leagues that score different ways. I consider 1 point 20 yards passing 1 point 10 rushing and recieving and 3 for passing tds and 6 for all others standard but thats the league i have been in for 12 years so maybe its outdated. My newer league are more points for tds and ppr so maybe the stats idea is a good one. I would still have pretty much everyone close to the same.

 

[BigTex]

Good list!

 

[Blackjacks]

Just wanted to update my list to see if the Felix pick was agreeing with everyone alittle more after 2 very nice outings so far this preseason. I know its just preseason but he has looked good.

I would take Chris Johnson out of my top 10 right now as I dont see them getting anything settled by week 1. I think I would have Bradshaw taking his place int eh top ten (not top 5 though) bump everyone else up alittle.

Sorry folks, still not a fan of Charles

 

[griff321]

The Patriot's are going to create mismatch nightmares all over the field on O.

Brady is going to have another career season and finish first overall.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Brees behind Bradford? Are you wanting to be taken seriously? If so you cant do stuff like that.

 

[ponchsox]

I stopped reading when I saw Ryan ahead of Brady.