Billy Bats
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So he's her father, right?
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Blacklist - new NBC show (1 Viewer)
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Mile High
Footballguy
skol asylum
Footballguy
Maybe he's really her mother but he/she had a sex change.
Eephus
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm 7 minutes into the pilot right now and I feel like it's very obvious he's her father. I really hope they don't Dexter this and try to drag out the "mystery" all season only to have the least surprising reveal in history.
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
I don't think they are trying to conceal the relationship AT ALL. She pretty much already knows it which is why she had that mini breakdown.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Yeah, it seems the only priority is to keep it off the Feds radar, right? She had to have recognized him.
What I don't get is the thing with the burn. He asks her if someone attacked her, she says not exactly, and then later attributes it to her father when calming down the little girl.
So he somehow wiped his past, which is why it didn't show up on her background check.
But then she freaks out and asks how he knew that stuff?? Was that an act for the Feds benefit?
Through this post I've come right back around to thinking she doesn't know. Huh.
What I don't get is the thing with the burn. He asks her if someone attacked her, she says not exactly, and then later attributes it to her father when calming down the little girl.
So he somehow wiped his past, which is why it didn't show up on her background check.
But then she freaks out and asks how he knew that stuff?? Was that an act for the Feds benefit?
Through this post I've come right back around to thinking she doesn't know. Huh.
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
She was working through it at that point. Then she steps outside that room and it sinks in that no one else could've possibly of known those details.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Okay. So did he get plastic surgery at some point? If she knew him when she was 14, she'd recognize him. But she didn't. At the same time, they had his picture from when he was a 24 year old grad of the academy, being groomed to be an admiral. Or something like that. So it would seem his face looks the same. And if that was his path in his early 20's, until he defected and disappeared, how was he a career criminal who abandoned his family as well? He only disappeared for 4 years, not 14. So even if he had his secret family after disappearing, there isn't enough time before he pops back on the map, right? Unless he was secretly in and out of their lives.
You'd think the barb she threw at him about abandoning his wife and kid on Christmas or something would have raised some FBI eyebrows, also, no?
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NCCommish
Footballguy
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
Well, he was in the original Stargate program, so who knows what kind of technology he had access to.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
I didn't feel bad for him once they showed that he's an under cover. My initial reaction was that he's a bad guy, I guess we'll find out soon enough.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
It would be nice if Jason Alexander had a quick cameo once again demanding an apology from James Spader.
I watched the episode finally last night and thought the same thing within a few minutes. Why else would he choose someone on their first day? If its logically something else, I will be impressed.
Decent show, will watch it again tonight
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Thought for a moment he might be one of those gay dads but then I saw how he kissed the Asian chick.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Sticking with it for now, but this episode was less intense than the first.
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
Got picked up.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
IN
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
they added nine to original 13 for a full season of 22 episodes...
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/10/04/the-blacklist-james-spader-full-season/
they said most watched new network drama of the season (i think sleepy hollow is highest rated new show, haven't seen it)...
something about the previews didn't grab me, maybe seemed kind of contrived, the thread prompted me to check it out, it was different than i expected, liking it so far... i thought spader was hilarious in the office, maybe he seemed a little hammy and over the top in previews, but enjoyed his performance, thanks for thread reminder...
got caught up on pilot and second episode this morning at show's online site (didn't have to download pesky ipad app by watching on desktop), now DVR set to series record...
a lot of shows i used to watch are no longer (24, lost, battlestar galactica, late to breaking bad, heroes was promising at first, other shows that didn't last long like flash forward, the event, touch, the one where the detective lives two lives waking and dreaming)... added to short list (recently discovered elementary, hawaii 5-0, castle)... i may have to check out non-network shows (breaking bad was one of two best dramatic series i've ever seen with the wire... house of cards seems to have gotten good reviews, and already available streaming on netflix)...
* forgot i DVRed first two episodes of SHIELD, but haven't checked out yet...
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Limp Ditka
Footballguy
No reason not to. BB is as good as TV gets. I've started HoC and Spacey is phenomenal in it. Really need to sit down and finish up the season
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
As for Blacklist.
Pretty sure it's garbage, but Spader still plays the pompous jagoff as well as anyone. Will keep watching for now.
Pretty sure it's garbage, but Spader still plays the pompous jagoff as well as anyone. Will keep watching for now.
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
i didn't start BB until right before third or fourth episode (second half of final season)... and caught up in a week!
didn't discover the wire until last season, but never caught earlier episodes, have to catch up on those one of these days...
thanx for HoC confirmation, spacey is a great actor (LA confidential still one of my favorite roles of his)...
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Joe McGee
Footballguy
It's the only new show I like, but it's on NBC which I never watch so who knows at this point? Definitely worth watching for Spader right now.
NCCommish
Footballguy
I really hope he isn't her father. Based on the Fed questions of her, seems pretty apparent that they know who her father is. Also, pretty sure that his family life wasn't a mystery, i.e. she made the comment about him abandoning his family. I don't think that they can cross that bridge because it seems like everyone would have already known.
I like the show itself, but I really hope this isn't going to continue to be all-knowing Spader, always 10 steps ahead of everyone. It might get a bit boring like that.
I like the show itself, but I really hope this isn't going to continue to be all-knowing Spader, always 10 steps ahead of everyone. It might get a bit boring like that.
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
i almost said i started to watch it because my wife likes it...
seriously, it is well written, i sometimes find shows like this predictable but it avoids this for the most part...
the non-lead regular cast are well drawn characters and seem to have genuine chemistry...
the dialogue references can be hilarious at times...
and it doesn't seem to take itself too seriously...
nathan fillion is good in this (beckett is also a believable character, tough but sympathetic), i think i saw serenity (movie) first, but i want to go back and see the one season of firefly (avail streaming netflix)...
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NCCommish
Footballguy
I started watching because I have liked Fillion in pretty much everything he has been in. I stayed because it is a pretty good show.Bob Magaw said:i almost said i started to watch it because my wife likes it...
seriously, it is well written, i sometimes find shows like this predictable but it avoids this for the most part...
the non-lead regular cast are well drawn characters and seem to have genuine chemistry...
the dialogue references can be hilarious at times...
and it doesn't seem to take itself too seriously...
nathan fillion is good in this (beckett is also a believable character, tough but sympathetic), i think i saw serenity (movie) first, but i want to go back and see the one season of firefly (avail streaming netflix)...
Billy Bats
Footballguy
The constant "I just lost my puppy and I'm so sad" look on Lizzys face is getting annoying.
Jim11
Footballguy
Thought that as well...but I hope that isn't the case and they have something more original to explain why he want's to work with only her.
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
They made it too obvious at the end of the show that he could be her father. There is some connection to the father but really don't want to wait 7 seasons to figure it out. Now, the intrigue seems to see where she starts acting like a equal to him, maybe saving his ###, or tripping him up. It wasn't too hard for her to figure out her husband might have a little xplainin to do.
NCCommish
Footballguy
I am kind of wondering who set up the surveillance. Was it Spader, the CIA, the FBI or a person yet to be named?
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
NCCommish
Footballguy
husband is probably on the blacklist
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
They are playing him pretty well. Right now I am still torn on whether or not it's just a setup meant to get her cut off from everyone but Spader.
NCCommish
Footballguy
Would of been a nice twist if when the guys came in to set up the surveilance, they found surveillance already in place.
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
oso diablo
Footballguy
my guess is that her father and Spader were partners or in cahoots in some fashion. Father saved the life of Spader at some point, leading to his own death, but not before he asked Spader to keep an eye on his daughter.
GTBilly
Footballguy
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Well surveillance was setup right after Lizzys boss read the classified info on him, so they want us to assume it's the FBI watching him. But what do the classified documents tell us about the husband? And the (murder?) case was worked on by homeland security and dismissed? (do I have that right?) So he's either a black ops or working for the bad guys as a double agent. Or something else.
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Bob Magaw
Footballguy
one potential overarching plot hole...
if word gets around the spy community that whoever comes into contact with spader is all of a sudden getting taken down by FBI, how will he continue to be able to move in those circles?
in first two episodes his role was more peripheral, and he didn't interact directly with bad guys... but in third episode he did (well, he was contacted directly by principal)... hard to see how he will be able to keep doing that...
even in underground complex, without spoiler, there was a moment where I thought disbelief suspension was stretched a bit, but it was cleverly written and somewhat plausible...
but in general, I like it, so I hope they get that worked out, and series succeeds...
spader alone is worth price of admission...
if word gets around the spy community that whoever comes into contact with spader is all of a sudden getting taken down by FBI, how will he continue to be able to move in those circles?
in first two episodes his role was more peripheral, and he didn't interact directly with bad guys... but in third episode he did (well, he was contacted directly by principal)... hard to see how he will be able to keep doing that...
even in underground complex, without spoiler, there was a moment where I thought disbelief suspension was stretched a bit, but it was cleverly written and somewhat plausible...
but in general, I like it, so I hope they get that worked out, and series succeeds...
spader alone is worth price of admission...
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
The husband is obviously an assassin, black ops type. The question is, is he working for us, or someone else and the govt is watching him, waiting for him to make contact with whoever he's worked for before.
I'm thinking the Feds know about the husband, maybe just because of his work or his reputation, but don't know about this identity or what his face looks like. So when she ran that bullet through ballistics and it raised a red flag, they now want to know what her connection to this guy is. Probably still don't know it's the husband.
I think it's pretty clear that the guys setting up the surveillance are government types. They worked efficiently as a team (yeah, yeah, insert joke about government employees and state workers here) and deftly avoided the neighbor when she came back to get her purse or whatever. They were trained, and trained to work as a group to get in and out. Someone running in Spader's circles would have probably worked alone and been less...exact in how he acted. Those guys were obviously CIA or something.
The question is, her FBI partner, the Matt Damon ripoff, is the one who brought the ballistics report to his superior...so does he know about this surveillance on the chick he's coming to respect, or did he just hand off the report and now it's over his head?
I'm thinking the Feds know about the husband, maybe just because of his work or his reputation, but don't know about this identity or what his face looks like. So when she ran that bullet through ballistics and it raised a red flag, they now want to know what her connection to this guy is. Probably still don't know it's the husband.
I think it's pretty clear that the guys setting up the surveillance are government types. They worked efficiently as a team (yeah, yeah, insert joke about government employees and state workers here) and deftly avoided the neighbor when she came back to get her purse or whatever. They were trained, and trained to work as a group to get in and out. Someone running in Spader's circles would have probably worked alone and been less...exact in how he acted. Those guys were obviously CIA or something.
The question is, her FBI partner, the Matt Damon ripoff, is the one who brought the ballistics report to his superior...so does he know about this surveillance on the chick he's coming to respect, or did he just hand off the report and now it's over his head?
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Maelstrom
Footballguy
I don't think the team was government, they were ready to kill the woman when she came back for her purse (guy had his gun out). I don't think spooks would have been authorized to kill just to avoid detection there, they would have used other means. Could be wrong, but I think it's Spader.
