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Blacklist - new NBC show (1 Viewer)
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shadyridr
Footballguy
bigbottom said:
The way they developed his character in the last episode, it now would make no sense for him to be an undercover agent. He was so whiny, and for really no good reason, and we saw his whiny, butthurt reaction when he was home alone after making dinner. Why would he carry on the charade when he's by himself?
Edit: Of course, just because it would make no sense, doesn't mean that won't end up being the case.
Edit: Of course, just because it would make no sense, doesn't mean that won't end up being the case.
shadyridr
Footballguy
huh? shes the only reason Reddington is working with the fbi. She pretty much has everyone by the balls. Its the whole premise of the show
Billy Bats
Footballguy
The way they developed his character in the last episode, it now would make no sense for him to be an undercover agent. He was so whiny, and for really no good reason, and we saw his whiny, butthurt reaction when he was home alone after making dinner. Why would he carry on the charade when he's by himself?
Edit: Of course, just because it would make no sense, doesn't mean that won't end up being the case.
Edit: Of course, just because it would make no sense, doesn't mean that won't end up being the case.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Foosball God
Foos
that doesn't mean that the FBI would put her on an OP like that. She'd be at the command center while trained field ops took the suspect.
Vike Me
Footballguy
bigbottom said:
The way they developed his character in the last episode, it now would make no sense for him to be an undercover agent. He was so whiny, and for really no good reason, and we saw his whiny, butthurt reaction when he was home alone after making dinner. Why would he carry on the charade when he's by himself?
Edit: Of course, just because it would make no sense, doesn't mean that won't end up being the case.
Edit: Of course, just because it would make no sense, doesn't mean that won't end up being the case.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Maybe he's just a whiny b who also happens to be a trained assassin.
oso diablo
Footballguy
so hubby surely was on a mission in Kansas City, right?
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I agree with VikeMe, can we get a petition going to have wimp hubby killed off? They already killed off a bunch of less deserving people, I would look forward to the episode where Red bumps him off.
"I never thought you were good enough for my Lizzie"
BOOM
"I never thought you were good enough for my Lizzie"
BOOM
Rodeojones
Footballguy
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Years of watching "Bones" with my wife tells me that having a profiler present at stakeouts, swat missions, etc... is standard operating procedure for the FBI.
Spin
Footballguy
"You can't touch me, if you so much as lay a finger on me, I'll"
*BAM*
Look of utter shock.
Best part of the episode.
I'm growing tired of the Lizzie/Tom stuff, I really wish they'd go ahead and play out the mystery behind Tom, getting bored with his story line. Red was successful in ending their hopes of adopting, so Tom runs off to Jolene. It's obvious how they want you to think this plays out, let's see if it happens. If they go down the marital distress due to cheating row, I hope it's a one episode thing, not looking forward to that dragged out across a few episodes..
Wasn't too interested in this week's villian/story either. Found myself drifting when Spader wasn't on the screen. Seeing the pregnant women being used as incubators was kind of disturbing, but didn't think the investigation was too interesting and the villain seemed just a bit forced.
*BAM*
Look of utter shock.
Best part of the episode.
I'm growing tired of the Lizzie/Tom stuff, I really wish they'd go ahead and play out the mystery behind Tom, getting bored with his story line. Red was successful in ending their hopes of adopting, so Tom runs off to Jolene. It's obvious how they want you to think this plays out, let's see if it happens. If they go down the marital distress due to cheating row, I hope it's a one episode thing, not looking forward to that dragged out across a few episodes..
Wasn't too interested in this week's villian/story either. Found myself drifting when Spader wasn't on the screen. Seeing the pregnant women being used as incubators was kind of disturbing, but didn't think the investigation was too interesting and the villain seemed just a bit forced.
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
At the end when Lizze was talking to the bad guy I couldn't figure where I knew the actor from. I went to IMDB but he hadn't been in anything that I had seen. Then I see he is George C. Scott's son. I backed the scene up and just listened to it and could hear the likeness in the voice mannerisms. Then watched it again and could see it.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
can't wait for red to put a bullet into hipster hubby
Billy Bats
Footballguy
So Diane knew the secret about his family, something tells me Tom is another one that knows. Him or Finch.
Jim11
Footballguy
He has a recurring role on Royal Pains; didn't know he was George C. Scott's son. In regards to Lizzie's husband, I too would like him gone...almost as much as the whiny kid on Major Crimes.
northern exposure
Footballguy
Campbell Scott was kind of a big deal in the 90's with a major role in Cameron Crowe's "Singles" and opposite Julia Roberts in "Dying Young". The last time I remember seeing him is in The Amazing Spiderman in 2012.
I think the show is great because it puts Spader in an ideal position to shine. They really missed the boat on many of their other casting decisions though. They need to unload the guy from Homeland ASAP.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I just noticed the name of this episode was "Baby Not on Board".
Show will return after the Olympics Monday, February 24.
Show will return after the Olympics Monday, February 24.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Her and the dork that plays her hubby can practice staring into each others sleepy eyes.
Fennis
Footballguy
funny i said that to my wife. why would he act like a whiny ##### when he was alone if he was a spy. she said maybe he did really fall in love with her and he can still be a spy. guess she had a point.
pffft chicks
Ash
Footballguy
funny, my wife said the same thing. hes a spy, but their love is real.
pffft chicks
pffft chicks
Also, will destroy any credibility if he does turn out to be a spy or similar for me. No way you'd hide the stuff that was under the floor in the house with a FBI agent, no way he'd start mooning over the first chick who pays him some attention either. He also wouldn't be throwing that passive aggressive "I'm flying out for a job interview" tantrum as well.
If he actually was some kind of undercover plant either for Red or someone else, he'd be the perfect supportive, low maintenance handbag.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Anybody still watching this? Red got in a few funnies as usual as of late.
soothsayer
Footballguy
Still in. Still enjoyable despite some previously-mentioned flaws. I don't need it to be perfect - just entertaining. Thanks to Spader it still is.
I can only hope the writers intentionally made him that annoying so we can all cheer wildly when that happens
Billy Bats
Footballguy
So the hipster teacher was finally outed, but for what? Lizzie is his main target. Ok, curious to find out why. And the girl apparently now wasn't hired by red to get close to him or is he just doing a more thorough background check? Seems a bit late for that, so is she working for the same people that hipster is?
I don't understand why Red wouldnt get rid of the hipster if he knew he was targeting Lizzy. Only reason I could think of is somehow the whole situation was going to lure that girl out from hiding he was investigating.
Side note - show needs more Spader. Writers need to realize he is the best part. Still enjoying it, hope they close some holes
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
So this show does have one hole?
I noticed the same thing actually. It can't be the FBI's most wanted list for the same reason.
Huh? The Judge was #57 and they showed it after he told Lizzie about "him" at the beginning of the show.
I don't think Red knew for sure. I think he gave her the doubt to have her check into it, but I don't think he knew for sure. I think he knows for sure now since he was tracking the girl he knew about and that she was hooking up with hipster.tjnc09 said:
Are you talking about holes as in plot holes or holes as in questions they haven't answered? Maybe there have been some plot holes, but I think it has been pretty solid so far.
bigbottom
Footballguy
That's my point. Red wasn't even sure the Judge existed until the DA appeared (his comment that if what he believes is true, then the myth is real). Why would Red put someone on his blacklist that he wasn't sure existed? Moreover, the Judge wasn't a bad guy, much less the baddest of the bad, in Red's eyes. He respected what she was doing. That's why he saved her from making a mistake. There's no way he would have put her on his list. The Good Samaritan Killer is another example. That had been Keen's case from the beginning. It didn't come in through Red, and there is no indication that Red had him on his list. In fact, that type of criminal would never have made Red's list of the baddest of the bad.
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Jayrok
Footballguy
So Tom was hired to get Lizzie to fall in love with him and marry him. Other than that he doesn't know the rest of his mission. Maybe the girl flirting with him was hired to protect Lizzie by somehow trying to get her to divorce him, forcing his play/mission. I think she could still possibly work for Red to flush Tom out. Red of course doesn't want Lizzie to know. When Tom didn't go through with the affair, maybe she tried to just call him out and say Lizzie was his target hoping he would show his hand in some way. Just a theory though.
I think Tom probably didn't know about the fake IDs and gun under the floor. It was there in case his cover was blown and his contacts would have filled him in with a contingency plan. As long as things were going smoothly, he didn't need to know anything other than he is happily married to her. Maybe he figured the adoption of a child would draw them closer as a couple. Or maybe I'm grasping at straws.
Still like the show but I agree that Red is the only shining star in the cast. I'd like to see more of him in every episode.
I think Tom probably didn't know about the fake IDs and gun under the floor. It was there in case his cover was blown and his contacts would have filled him in with a contingency plan. As long as things were going smoothly, he didn't need to know anything other than he is happily married to her. Maybe he figured the adoption of a child would draw them closer as a couple. Or maybe I'm grasping at straws.
Still like the show but I agree that Red is the only shining star in the cast. I'd like to see more of him in every episode.
Jayrok
Footballguy
LinusMarr
Footballguy
What i dont understand is since he is not really in love with his wife since that is his "mission" to pretend, then why not have some fun with the other lady? lol
bigbottom
Footballguy
LinusMarr
Footballguy
I mean seriously, if i am just pretending to be in love with my life you might as well get off the high moral ground...
Pratt from last week was on his list and he and her had a thing. She wasn't "bad" from a killer perspective either, she was a thief.
While he didn't know for a fact that the Judge existed, he did have an inkling that she did and to say the Judge wasn't a bad guy is incorrect. Since he had no contact with her like he had with others, he didn't know 100% that she existed, but he thought she did enough to have an idea on who she may have already abducted/killed. She kidnapped and probably killed (assuming other wrongfully executed people - can't recall if they said some were dead), based on things that could have been incorrect, i.e. the last guy was guilty. She also was obviously not very nice to people she took, so it wasn't really an eye for an eye. The prisoner that was let go after 12 years was probably in better shape than the DA who couldn't even talk.
I understand that the blacklist is supposed to be the world's worst criminals, but I don't see why the Judge couldn't have been on it or Pratt from last week as well. If I were to tell you that there is someone in the US, who has kidnapped or killed around a dozen+ District Attorneys, Cops, Federal Agents or Elected Officials, do you think they would be on the FBI's most wanted? Same with someone who was a thief and was going to sell information on where suitcase nuke bombs are stored in the US, would you think they would be on the FBI's most wanted.
IMHO, those two qualified for his list.
LinusMarr
Footballguy
Lizzie is nice to look at so as long as she is there i am fine with it. The black guy in charge is a dope, and so is lizzie's side kick with the blonde hair. Those 2 need to die i think...
Maybe I am wrong, but I am 99% sure he didn't know she was a spy until she blew her cover when he was leaving. That was when he realized she might have been sent by the people for which he works.
ETA: He didn't want to risk completely blowing it with Lizzie. If she found out, he is toast. It is a little bit of a stretch, but it has been as he said a couple year gig already. I am sure somewhere inside he may actually care for Lizzie a bit. Who knows, just conjecture.
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I agree with everyone saying the co-stars are the weak link in the show. Problem is the few interesting ones are only there for one or two episodes before they are caught or killed off.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
I know it's not really worth bringing up all the holes in the show, but why did the Japanese guy go after Ressler on a freeway instead of following him and dealing with him efficiently like the first two he killed?
Also, now Tom = badass
Also, now Tom = badass
Jayrok
Footballguy
Me too. Teasing us I guess. I liked last week's head in a box/Swan Lake episode, but this week wasn't that good. A teenage boy hacker steals some device and blacks out all of DC just to make a romantic gesture some a HS girl?
The story was titled Ivan, No. 88. But Ivan had nothing to do with the story, nor did they catch him. However, Red did get Ivan to refund his $$ with interest so maybe that was why Ivan was on his "black list" the whole time. But IMO it was a relatively boring episode, other than Tom punching Lizzie in the face and her not getting mad at him.
