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Understood.
You also had Finley listed for Cinny, Stidham for NE, and no one projected for Washington.
Understood. Any errors are on me. I own that.
Joe, appreciate what you’re saying... just so you know, the volume of mistakes increased significantly later in the season. I’m in enough leagues and check the projections here enough where I spot “weirdness” frequently, and there’s definitely more weirdness in the last 2-3 weeks. I agree it’s not lack of effort - I’ve seen Bloom update projections frequently within an hour of an event happening. It is lack of quality control, IMO - there are either fat finger type mistakes or things that didn’t get updated as new info emerged, but should have been, especially for marginal players (all the examples BnB gave above).
Thank you. I very much appreciate that. I'd hoped that was how you were seeing it but didn't get that from the posts. I'm sure it's just a combination of written word being a tough way to communicate sometimes plus me being embarrassed for my error. We've known for a while we needed to have a more protective system in place to catch outlier stuff and that's already been underway. This just highlights the need and that we're on the right track with an updated system.
Thanks. I agree for sure on the Dynasty updates and I'll get with our guys to make sure we're all on the same page.
The dynasty IDP ranking haven’t been updated in quite some time. Good time to update those rankings, as rosters are about to be locked, and I’d like to know the dynasty outlook of IDP players going forward. Thanks
I concur. Bloom's stuff is the content I am most eager to read each week. I would say his player tiers, sleepers, and buy low-sell high are my favorite weekly content. I understand that his material is more of a "hot take" than other writers, but that is also why I enjoy reading his stuff more than some of the others. He takes more chances and has some misses, but he has definitely helped me identify some trends and outliers in dynasty. This, in turn, has allowed me to consistently pick up players before they enter they general FF consciousness (usually the following week).
I love Bloom and I’m loyal so I planned to ignore this, but I’m guessing from this post you don’t seriously use the DFS tools here.
Respectfully, I disagree. I will give you two specific recent examples where these inaccuracies either impacted me or almost impacted me this year:habsfan said:
) and Jamison Crowder. I was pretty set to start Crowder, and then thought - lets just double check if Gilmore covers him. I thought I heard Gilmore is out for the year, but when I go to IDP projections, he has numbers in expected tackles, INTs, etc. I had to go to another place on FBG to find that he's indeed out for the year, and the projections are not accurate.
Thanks. I'll see what Bloom is thinking on Ebron. Dodds and Tremblay are projecting for him. Not sure what you mean on Allen. Bloom has him for stats but thinks Barkley will see more work.
Correct. in the early years, a lot of our staff participated and we did exceptionally well. A few years ago, we made the decision to amicably not participate. They are an excellent site and a very strong competitor. We made the decision to keep our content just for Premium Subscribers.zed2283 said:
Fair point and you are correct I do not use the DFS tools here or really any lineup optimizers and my "meh" response was definitely more from a redraft, dynasty pov. I play a bit but not a ton of DFS and prefer to build my own lineups. Were I serious DFS player using an optimizer I would likely use several and compare sites like I do for redraft and dynasty rankings and then use all of them to make my own decisions. I was heavily weighted on Henry last week because I thought he was a great start but he didn't pan out. Again your point is a fair one and I hope the optimizer has made you enough money this yr so the glitch in the matrix this week didn't hurt you too much. Serious question, has the lineup optimizer worked out for you? Im thinking I probably should use similar tools myself but i'm usually so focused on all my redraft and dynasty teams I really don't have that much time to spend on DFS and don't build that many lineups.
I mean Josh Allen was not in his projections at the time of my post. He is now. Thanks.
I don’t want to get down that rabbit hole in this thread, but it’s a part of my GPP process. I think there are much better ways to build a cash lineup than using the single lineup optimal.
I'm not sure we do disagree. I said I am concerned when player rankings don't change even when information that clearly should affect those rankings is released and confirmed. Of course this is assuming there is sufficient time to make the changes (i.e. I'm not talking about Sunday GTDs). We may disagree in that I don't expect FBGs to be Shefter-level connected and "know something" that is legitimately up in the air.Respectfully, I disagree. I will give you two specific recent examples where these inaccuracies either impacted me or almost impacted me this year:
Week 16: I had a decision to make between Tee Higgins and Russell Gage. I knew Brandon Allen was cleared, but both Dodds and Bloom projected Ryan Finley to start and Allen to sit, and never updated the rankings. I needed to make the call by Saturday, and assumed both Dodds and Bloom know something, and Finley will start and benched Higgins. I wouldn't have made that call if I knew Allen would start. Of note, I've seen plenty of situations where FBG hedges heavily in situations where they are not sure who will start. For example, Alex Smith and Haskins have had their stats split right down the middle in several weeks where the starter wasn't clear, to indicate that FBG didn't know which player would get the nod. This wasn't done for Allen and Finley in week 16.
Week 17: I now am making a call between Tee Higgins (note a theme here
So, this wasn't so much that I wanted FBG to tell me who to start, I just want accurate information from FBG, so I can make my own decisions. That's not too much to ask, right?
I like your SLA point. I also think there should be better consistency between the projections and all the other sources of info FBG publishes. The daily updates, Sunday updates, web site player updates, and projections should be in sync, so that if one of them “knows” a player is out, the others update to reflect that.
Agreed. For a player that's designated as out, that should be easy. We're working on a "master override" feature for 2021 that will allow us to make quick changes.
Good example of how challenging this can be. We initially had Allen not playing. Then added some. Now it's looking like he may go enough to get the team record. To be determined.
