Bobby Engram (1 Viewer)

[packersfan]

He isn't a stud WR by any means. He may not even be a top WR2 many weeks. All he's been is a guy you can plug into your lineup as a WR3 nearly every week and get consistent production. And yet he's a guy who I'm willing to bet your opponents chuckle at when they see him in your starting lineup or think they have a huge advantage at that spot in your lineup.

But consider:

In his last 20 regular-season games dating back to the end of the 2004 season and excluding a meaningless Week 17 game vs. Green Bay last year he's been held under 50 yards receiving and 4 receptions only four times. It doesn't matter who's in the lineup with him or who's not in the lineup the guy is pretty much a lock for a game of 4 receptions and 50+ yards week in and week out. His QB loves him and trusts him - especially in critical moments of a drive.

Even last week when Deion Branch arrived and the WR picture in Seattle got cloudy Engram still produced. He had a season-high 12 passes thrown his way and had his best game of the young season with 5 receptions for 62 yards and a touchdown.

The main downside with Engram is his lack of touchdowns. He's never had more than six in a season and he's only done that twice in his 11-year career. So because of that he's not a guy who's going to carry any teams to fantasy titles. But he is a guy I think you can win with. And yet he doesn't seem to get a lot of respect from fantasy owners.

Like I said, I don't think the guy is All-World by any means but when you hit these bye weeks he's a guy I've never had a problem plugging into my lineup if he's been on my team as a WR3 or WR4 (if your league starts that many). He may not win the week for you but chances are he isn't going to lose it either.

 

[broncofan13000]

He's started every week for me as my WR#3 in my PPR and is starting again this week.

 

[gman8343]

nice guy to have on your bench in ppr leagues.

 

[elpasotexan]

He's been underrated for years. I could ALWAYS count on drafting him in the final round of redraft leagues until this year. I guess I've been predictable.

 

[Marc Levin]

I don't see Engram's role on the team changing - though I see it becoming less necessary when Branch comes along. Burleson to the bench, and Engram's opps go down b/c Hass will have a better WR2 to throw to.

 

[Englishteacher]

I like him a lot but just dropped him in a league as I think there are finally just too many mouths to feed in Seattle.

 

[Sopranos]

Matt trusts him. He will get you 4-5 catches and 50-60 yards EVERY week. And then 4-5 times he will score like last week. He is a cheap bye week option.. I have him in 3 leagues as a bye week. I plug him in and dont worry about it.

 

[Eagle Eye]

He makes a great end of the bench guy if you're a DJAX owner. Handcuff plus bye week fill-in.

 

[mad sweeney]

Matt trusts him. He will get you 4-5 catches and 50-60 yards EVERY week. And then 4-5 times he will score like last week. He is a cheap bye week option.. I have him in 3 leagues as a bye week. I plug him in and dont worry about it.

 

[Chaos Commish]

 

[taz]

He's my WR3 in a 14-team PPR. You can consistently count on anywhere from 8-12 points every week, which isn't a bad thing at all. I'd take that over a guy who MIGHT score a TD, but could very well put up a 2-17-0.

 

[Kleck]

I like him a lot but just dropped him in a league as I think there are finally just too many mouths to feed in Seattle.

If you search my posts and uses the key work "Engram" you'll find I'm probably eligible for president of the Engram fan club.I have to disagree with this post. IMO Engram is the one guy who's targets won't change. I think he's a lock to put up a minimum of three or four catches each week (with a max of six). If he stays healthy I fully expect him to between 55 or 60 balls and a few scattered touchdowns. However, I won't be surprised to check the data from this season and see him way out in front in endzone targets so far this year. I don't expect that trend to continue.

 

[Marc Levin]

However, I won't be surprised to check the data from this season and see him way out in front in endzone targets so far this year. I don't expect that trend to continue.

That's my problem with hanging onto him - in addition to the scenario I thought about above. I really think that replacing Burleson with Branch will create fewer situations where they need Engram as a receiver in the slot.I still love him as a player - and i think he's gonna be instrumental in returning Seattle to the NFC Champ game.

 

[ookook]

I am with Shick! on this one (which is a scary thing to admit in a public forum): I think Engram has to be one of my favorite NFL players.

I think the changes goin gon in the Seahawks offense favor him just as much as hurt him, leaving his value abouthte same.

I would KILL to have him on my favorite NFL team (that shall go nameless).

 

[jafo]

Engram is gold in PPR leagues. If he is out on the wire he's an excellent addition to your team. I'd grab him in a heartbeat if I saw him sitting out there.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I'm a Seahawks fan and appreciate what he offers the team. With Branch I can see his numbers fading but he's still a decent play in PPR leagues.

 

[Bolitar]

In the last 3 years, I am the only one in my 2 leagues to use this guy. Its gotten to where I cut him and pick him up when I need him because he will sit out there forever, untouched. I have an extra roster spot.

 

[SSOG]

He isn't a stud WR by any means. He may not even be a top WR2 many weeks. All he's been is a guy you can plug into your lineup as a WR3 nearly every week and get consistent production. And yet he's a guy who I'm willing to bet your opponents chuckle at when they see him in your starting lineup or think they have a huge advantage at that spot in your lineup.But consider:In his last 20 regular-season games dating back to the end of the 2004 season and excluding a meaningless Week 17 game vs. Green Bay last year he's been held under 50 yards receiving and 4 receptions only four times. It doesn't matter who's in the lineup with him or who's not in the lineup the guy is pretty much a lock for a game of 4 receptions and 50+ yards week in and week out. His QB loves him and trusts him - especially in critical moments of a drive.Even last week when Deion Branch arrived and the WR picture in Seattle got cloudy Engram still produced. He had a season-high 12 passes thrown his way and had his best game of the young season with 5 receptions for 62 yards and a touchdown.The main downside with Engram is his lack of touchdowns. He's never had more than six in a season and he's only done that twice in his 11-year career. So because of that he's not a guy who's going to carry any teams to fantasy titles. But he is a guy I think you can win with. And yet he doesn't seem to get a lot of respect from fantasy owners.Like I said, I don't think the guy is All-World by any means but when you hit these bye weeks he's a guy I've never had a problem plugging into my lineup if he's been on my team as a WR3 or WR4 (if your league starts that many). He may not win the week for you but chances are he isn't going to lose it either.

I really like Engram in an NFL sense. Football Outsiders calls him Bobby "The First Down Machine" Engram because, statistically speaking, he's the best WR in the league at converting on 3rd down. While that's tremendously valuable in an NFL sense, I don't get any points for conversions on third down, so it doesn't mean much to me as a fantasy owner... and outside of PPR leagues, Engram really doesn't have any fantasy value except as an emergency starter. Worse, I see no way for his numbers to go UP this season with all that competition- they're either holding steady, or else they're going down.Engram's just another example of a tremendously valuable NFL role player that fantasy football underrates. Outside of PPR leagues, he doesn't hold much value, even as a handcuff to D-Jax, because as Shick is always saying, of DJax goes down someone else will take his role and Engram's will remain unchanged.

 

[ookook]

Of course, "value" depends much on how many teams are in the league and how many receivers start each week.

I play in one 10 team league that starts 4 WRs with no PPR. With 4 bye weeks to cover and 40 starting WRs each week, Engram starts more often than not (he is like WR35 after all).

I also play in a 16 team league where many teams start 3 WRs (depending on depth at RB and flex). Me likey there too.

And of course there are those PPR leagues I play in (that I hate).

Does MFL or anywhere else allow one to give points only for first-down conversions?

 

[broncofan13000]

He isn't a stud WR by any means. He may not even be a top WR2 many weeks. All he's been is a guy you can plug into your lineup as a WR3 nearly every week and get consistent production. And yet he's a guy who I'm willing to bet your opponents chuckle at when they see him in your starting lineup or think they have a huge advantage at that spot in your lineup.But consider:In his last 20 regular-season games dating back to the end of the 2004 season and excluding a meaningless Week 17 game vs. Green Bay last year he's been held under 50 yards receiving and 4 receptions only four times. It doesn't matter who's in the lineup with him or who's not in the lineup the guy is pretty much a lock for a game of 4 receptions and 50+ yards week in and week out. His QB loves him and trusts him - especially in critical moments of a drive.Even last week when Deion Branch arrived and the WR picture in Seattle got cloudy Engram still produced. He had a season-high 12 passes thrown his way and had his best game of the young season with 5 receptions for 62 yards and a touchdown.The main downside with Engram is his lack of touchdowns. He's never had more than six in a season and he's only done that twice in his 11-year career. So because of that he's not a guy who's going to carry any teams to fantasy titles. But he is a guy I think you can win with. And yet he doesn't seem to get a lot of respect from fantasy owners.Like I said, I don't think the guy is All-World by any means but when you hit these bye weeks he's a guy I've never had a problem plugging into my lineup if he's been on my team as a WR3 or WR4 (if your league starts that many). He may not win the week for you but chances are he isn't going to lose it either.

I really like Engram in an NFL sense. Football Outsiders calls him Bobby "The First Down Machine" Engram because, statistically speaking, he's the best WR in the league at converting on 3rd down. While that's tremendously valuable in an NFL sense, I don't get any points for conversions on third down, so it doesn't mean much to me as a fantasy owner... and outside of PPR leagues, Engram really doesn't have any fantasy value except as an emergency starter. Worse, I see no way for his numbers to go UP this season with all that competition- they're either holding steady, or else they're going down.Engram's just another example of a tremendously valuable NFL role player that fantasy football underrates. Outside of PPR leagues, he doesn't hold much value, even as a handcuff to D-Jax, because as Shick is always saying, of DJax goes down someone else will take his role and Engram's will remain unchanged.

I disagree. While Engram is much more valuable in a PPR, he still holds value in a standard scoring league with deep rosters. When choosing a WR3, you can have Engram who will almost gaurantee you 5-7 points a week, or a boom or bust player who just may put up a goose egg. (all depends on the size of your league, and roster spots)

 

[VICK-tory]

WR by comm., I run from it. Thought hes a good player indeed.

 

[stevegamer]

I've gotten laughed at drafting him 2 of the last 3 years. This year nobody made a snide "is he even still in the league" comment.

Seahawks made the Supe, so of course they knew he was still int he league... He's the new Warrick Dunn, the guy people I draft that guys in my league laugh at. By next year, I will have to find someone else, because he will finally get drafted by somebody else as WR 5.

Last year he was part of a deal where I dealt a solid starting RB & a WR who was consitently scoring (guess who) for Marvin Harrison.

This year, he's in a deal to bring me a top-5 TE pending voting review with some other stuff going back & forth.

Draft & hold for 3-4 weeks, get production. Trade him as the replacement WR/flex for the guy you want int he deal. Repeat next season.

 

[kwhutto]

I actually went to High School with him. If he was 6'2" instead of 5'10" that he really is, he would be in everybody's top ten.