Boehner Will Resign from Congress (1 Viewer)

[Willy]

I'm trying to wrap my head around this. Some people on the right are actually saying Ryan isn't conservative enough to be speaker, yet Trump is leading for the GOP nominee? Trump has never claimed to be a Republican let alone a conservative until recently. Ryan has fought for fiscal responsibility his whole career, but I guess a couple of votes failed some made up litmus test. That and some kooks at Breitbart keep claiming Ryan is an open borders, full amnesty guy even though he's not.

It's clear that the media that supposedly favors the right - Fox news, Breitbart, talk radio etc is a negative force on the GOP. They constantly sew the seeds of discontent. Discontent may equal ratings, but it is not leading to solid government. Ryan isn't conservative enough for them? Please...Ryan should run away from this kook show.

 

[timschochet]

I'm trying to wrap my head around this. Some people on the right are actually saying Ryan isn't conservative enough to be speaker, yet Trump is leading for the GOP nominee? Trump has never claimed to be a Republican let alone a conservative until recently. Ryan has fought for fiscal responsibility his whole career, but I guess a couple of votes failed some made up litmus test. That and some kooks at Breitbart keep claiming Ryan is an open borders, full amnesty guy even though he's not.

It's clear that the media that supposedly favors the right - Fox news, Breitbart, talk radio etc is a negative force on the GOP. They constantly sew the seeds of discontent. Discontent may equal ratings, but it is not leading to solid government. Ryan isn't conservative enough for them? Please...Ryan should run away from this kook show.

It's not that difficult to understand: illegal immigration has become the litmus test for conservatives, the way that abortion used to be (and still is, of course.) If you are squishy on illegal immigration you're not conservative enough. If you are hardline on illegal immigration, like Trump, your other positions really don't matter.

 

[Aerial Assault]

I love Ryan's demand that he be given family time, when he's fought against family leave protections for workers his whole career.

And I really like the idea of Teapartistan. All of these maniacs who don't seem to like the U.S. very much can go live there, or give a place like Somalia a try. No taxes, no liberals, no abortions, no vexing spending on infrastructure, no public schools, no teachers, no workers' rights, no unions. Man, it sounds like paradise for them. Just bring a really big security force to guard the lush seaside mansion in the Mogadishu suburbs.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

@JakeSherman: HOUSE FREEDOM CAUCUS DOES NOT ENDORSE PAUL RYAN. They say a SUPER MAJORITY will support Ryan for speaker, however.r

(Based on other tweets, not the 80% Ryan wanted)

If he runs now he deserves all the heartache he gets. He laid out his criteria (the rule change for vacating the chair was the deal breaker imo) and the HFC didn't meet it.

 

[timschochet]

Looks like the Freedom Caucus is going to give in. Which means they will give in on the debt ceiling and the budget as well. So the GOP split is avoided yet again...for the moment.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Looks like the Freedom Caucus is going to give in. Which means they will give in on the debt ceiling and the budget as well. So the GOP split is avoided yet again...for the moment.

Not really

"He says he's prepared to move ahead despite not securing the formal endorsement of the Freedom Caucus."

 

[Slapdash]

Paul Ryan loves voodoo economics, hopefully he doesn't get it

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I'm trying to wrap my head around this. Some people on the right are actually saying Ryan isn't conservative enough to be speaker, yet Trump is leading for the GOP nominee? Trump has never claimed to be a Republican let alone a conservative until recently. Ryan has fought for fiscal responsibility his whole career, but I guess a couple of votes failed some made up litmus test. That and some kooks at Breitbart keep claiming Ryan is an open borders, full amnesty guy even though he's not.

It's clear that the media that supposedly favors the right - Fox news, Breitbart, talk radio etc is a negative force on the GOP. They constantly sew the seeds of discontent. Discontent may equal ratings, but it is not leading to solid government. Ryan isn't conservative enough for them? Please...Ryan should run away from this kook show.

It's not that difficult to understand: illegal immigration has become the litmus test for conservatives, the way that abortion used to be (and still is, of course.) If you are squishy on illegal immigration you're not conservative enough. If you are hardline on illegal immigration, like Trump, your other positions really don't matter.

Nah, its still abortion first. That's how he still got a 2/3 support from the freedom people.

 

[bakes]

Paul Ryan loves voodoo economics, hopefully he doesn't get it

He's a hypocrite of the first order (He wants family leave? Oh, it's OK for him but not working families? Donkeyhole) and his world's Venn diagram is a circle containing Ayn Rand on one side, a circle containing the Bible on the other, and his sorry Eddie Munster looking ### trying vaingloriously to drag the two of them together.

 

[Fennis]

I'm just surprised they are apparently going to elect a liberal like Ryan.

 

[CBusAlex]

He's a hypocrite of the first order (He wants family leave? Oh, it's OK for him but not working families? Donkeyhole)

I don't think his position is that no one should get family leave, just that it should be up to the employer and employee to negotiate, not a government mandate. "If you want family leave, don't take a job that won't offer it" may be kind of a jackhole position to take anyway, but it's exactly what he's doing here.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Paul Ryan loves voodoo economics, hopefully he doesn't get it

He's a hypocrite of the first order (He wants family leave? Oh, it's OK for him but not working families? Donkeyhole) and his world's Venn diagram is a circle containing Ayn Rand on one side, a circle containing the Bible on the other, and his sorry Eddie Munster looking ### trying vaingloriously to drag the two of them together.

They are all hypocrites. Obama gave back pay to his federal employees but not contractors after the last shutdown. Contractors are people missing paychecks just like the federal employees were.

Congress isn't on a stupid Obamacare health plan but the rest of us have our health care affected by the crappy piece of crap legislation. If it's so great why for everyone why aren't the people that voted it in using it?

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Paul Ryan loves voodoo economics, hopefully he doesn't get it

He's a hypocrite of the first order (He wants family leave? Oh, it's OK for him but not working families? Donkeyhole) and his world's Venn diagram is a circle containing Ayn Rand on one side, a circle containing the Bible on the other, and his sorry Eddie Munster looking ### trying vaingloriously to drag the two of them together.

They are all hypocrites. Obama gave back pay to his federal employees but not contractors after the last shutdown. Contractors are people missing paychecks just like the federal employees were. Congress isn't on a stupid Obamacare health plan but the rest of us have our health care affected by the crappy piece of crap legislation. If it's so great why for everyone why aren't the people that voted it in using it?

Pretty much every part of this post is factually wrong.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Now the Freedom Caucus may not be conservative enough. This is both fascinating and a little bit disturbing.

LINK

“You truly should be ashamed,” one commenter wrote [ to Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) on Facebook] Thursday. “The people in the caucus will be held responsible come election day.”

“You should all be replaced,” a critic told Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.). Another called Rep. Raúl R. Labrador (R-Idaho), one of the most persistent thorns in Boehner’s side, “a RINO establishment lap dog” and “another go-along to get along phony who will GLADLY step on the throats of the Conservative electorate.”

Things may never be the same for the Freedom Caucus after most of its members moved last week to support Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) as the next House speaker. Suddenly, they may not be conservative enough for some in the party.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Paul Ryan loves voodoo economics, hopefully he doesn't get it

He's a hypocrite of the first order (He wants family leave? Oh, it's OK for him but not working families? Donkeyhole) and his world's Venn diagram is a circle containing Ayn Rand on one side, a circle containing the Bible on the other, and his sorry Eddie Munster looking ### trying vaingloriously to drag the two of them together.

They are all hypocrites. Obama gave back pay to his federal employees but not contractors after the last shutdown. Contractors are people missing paychecks just like the federal employees were. Congress isn't on a stupid Obamacare health plan but the rest of us have our health care affected by the crappy piece of crap legislation. If it's so great why for everyone why aren't the people that voted it in using it?

Pretty much every part of this post is factually wrong.

LOL. No it isn't. I used to work right in the middle of some of it. But humor me what's factually incorrect in each part of the post?

 

[TobiasFunke]

Paul Ryan loves voodoo economics, hopefully he doesn't get it

He's a hypocrite of the first order (He wants family leave? Oh, it's OK for him but not working families? Donkeyhole) and his world's Venn diagram is a circle containing Ayn Rand on one side, a circle containing the Bible on the other, and his sorry Eddie Munster looking ### trying vaingloriously to drag the two of them together.

They are all hypocrites. Obama gave back pay to his federal employees but not contractors after the last shutdown. Contractors are people missing paychecks just like the federal employees were.Congress isn't on a stupid Obamacare health plan but the rest of us have our health care affected by the crappy piece of crap legislation. If it's so great why for everyone why aren't the people that voted it in using it?

Pretty much every part of this post is factually wrong.

LOL. No it isn't. I used to work right in the middle of some of it. But humor me what's factually incorrect in each part of the post?

1. Obama doesn't give back pay to anyone. It's done by Congress. Obama simply signs the bill.

2. Neither Obama nor Congress are in a position to give pay back to contractors. They're not employees of the federal government, they're employed by private entities who obtain contracts for work from the federal government. It's right there in the name and everything.

3. Even if the previous two things were not true I'm not sure what would be hypocritical about giving pay to some people who are in a certain position and not to other people who are in a completely different position. You might disagree with it, but "wrong" and "hypocritical" are not remotely the same thing.

4. Under Sec 1312(d)(3)(D) of the ACA, Members of Congress and certain staff are in fact REQUIRED to purchase plans created under the ACA or offered through an ACA exchange, assuming they want to continue to get health care through their employer (the federal government). It's hard to make a statement any wronger than "Congress isn't on a stupid Obamacare healthplan."

 

[urbanhack]

 

[pantagrapher]

Paul Ryan loves voodoo economics, hopefully he doesn't get it

He's a hypocrite of the first order (He wants family leave? Oh, it's OK for him but not working families? Donkeyhole) and his world's Venn diagram is a circle containing Ayn Rand on one side, a circle containing the Bible on the other, and his sorry Eddie Munster looking ### trying vaingloriously to drag the two of them together.

They are all hypocrites. Obama gave back pay to his federal employees but not contractors after the last shutdown. Contractors are people missing paychecks just like the federal employees were.Congress isn't on a stupid Obamacare health plan but the rest of us have our health care affected by the crappy piece of crap legislation. If it's so great why for everyone why aren't the people that voted it in using it?

Pretty much every part of this post is factually wrong.

LOL. No it isn't. I used to work right in the middle of some of it. But humor me what's factually incorrect in each part of the post?

1. Obama doesn't give back pay to anyone. It's done by Congress. Obama simply signs the bill.

2. Neither Obama nor Congress are in a position to give pay back to contractors. They're not employees of the federal government, they're employed by private entities who obtain contracts for work from the federal government. It's right there in the name and everything.

3. Even if the previous two things were not true I'm not sure what would be hypocritical about giving pay to some people who are in a certain position and not to other people who are in a completely different position. You might disagree with it, but "wrong" and "hypocritical" are not remotely the same thing.

4. Under Sec 1312(d)(3)(D) of the ACA, Members of Congress and certain staff are in fact REQUIRED to purchase plans created under the ACA or offered through an ACA exchange, assuming they want to continue to get health care through their employer (the federal government). It's hard to make a statement any wronger than "Congress isn't on a stupid Obamacare healthplan."

Yeah but he used to work right in the middle of some of it.

 

[joffer]

sounds like there might be a budget deal tonight

 

[timschochet]

sounds like there might be a budget deal tonight

Which includes raising the debt ceiling until 2017.

But can they get it past the Tea Partiers? If they do, it's a great victory for the Republican party, and it really helps the GOP candidates as well (the "serious" ones, like Rubio and Bush).

 

[timschochet]

Looks like a deal is done. The Tea Party is gonna be so pissed:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/white-house-congressional-leaders-near-possible-budget-deal-n451786?cid=sm_tw&hootPostID=34980b7e608c1fb78cdcc532534e3ea1

 

[timschochet]

Laura Ingraham outraged by the budget deal:

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/republican-spending-sellout/

Conservatives are NOT happy.

 

[ffldrew]

sounds like there might be a budget deal tonight

Which includes raising the debt ceiling until 2017.

But can they get it past the Tea Partiers? If they do, it's a great victory for the Republican party, and it really helps the GOP candidates as well (the "serious" ones, like Rubio and Bush).

Ted Cruz will have to talk for a very long time - I wonder if he can out talk voting for a new speaker.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Paul Ryan loves voodoo economics, hopefully he doesn't get it

He's a hypocrite of the first order (He wants family leave? Oh, it's OK for him but not working families? Donkeyhole) and his world's Venn diagram is a circle containing Ayn Rand on one side, a circle containing the Bible on the other, and his sorry Eddie Munster looking ### trying vaingloriously to drag the two of them together.

They are all hypocrites. Obama gave back pay to his federal employees but not contractors after the last shutdown. Contractors are people missing paychecks just like the federal employees were.Congress isn't on a stupid Obamacare health plan but the rest of us have our health care affected by the crappy piece of crap legislation. If it's so great why for everyone why aren't the people that voted it in using it?

Pretty much every part of this post is factually wrong.

LOL. No it isn't. I used to work right in the middle of some of it. But humor me what's factually incorrect in each part of the post?

1. Obama doesn't give back pay to anyone. It's done by Congress. Obama simply signs the bill.

2. Neither Obama nor Congress are in a position to give pay back to contractors. They're not employees of the federal government, they're employed by private entities who obtain contracts for work from the federal government. It's right there in the name and everything.

3. Even if the previous two things were not true I'm not sure what would be hypocritical about giving pay to some people who are in a certain position and not to other people who are in a completely different position. You might disagree with it, but "wrong" and "hypocritical" are not remotely the same thing.

4. Under Sec 1312(d)(3)(D) of the ACA, Members of Congress and certain staff are in fact REQUIRED to purchase plans created under the ACA or offered through an ACA exchange, assuming they want to continue to get health care through their employer (the federal government). It's hard to make a statement any wronger than "Congress isn't on a stupid Obamacare healthplan."

Wonderful stuff here.

 

[NCCommish]

sounds like there might be a budget deal tonight

Which includes raising the debt ceiling until 2017.

But can they get it past the Tea Partiers? If they do, it's a great victory for the Republican party, and it really helps the GOP candidates as well (the "serious" ones, like Rubio and Bush).

The only way it gets through is with Democratic votes. How is this a great win for the Republicans? Well except for the new speaker who can preen, pose and do nothing but try to rile up the base since Boehner did all the work.

 

[NCCommish]

And what does this grand bargain do? Well we get to spend even more on the military because 700 billion still isn't a trillion. But we have to cut SS and Medicare disability because we sure can't afford to take care of our disabled but we really,really need some more bombs.

 

[NCCommish]

Paul Ryan loves voodoo economics, hopefully he doesn't get it

He's a hypocrite of the first order (He wants family leave? Oh, it's OK for him but not working families? Donkeyhole) and his world's Venn diagram is a circle containing Ayn Rand on one side, a circle containing the Bible on the other, and his sorry Eddie Munster looking ### trying vaingloriously to drag the two of them together.

They are all hypocrites. Obama gave back pay to his federal employees but not contractors after the last shutdown. Contractors are people missing paychecks just like the federal employees were.Congress isn't on a stupid Obamacare health plan but the rest of us have our health care affected by the crappy piece of crap legislation. If it's so great why for everyone why aren't the people that voted it in using it?

Pretty much every part of this post is factually wrong.

LOL. No it isn't. I used to work right in the middle of some of it. But humor me what's factually incorrect in each part of the post?

1. Obama doesn't give back pay to anyone. It's done by Congress. Obama simply signs the bill.

2. Neither Obama nor Congress are in a position to give pay back to contractors. They're not employees of the federal government, they're employed by private entities who obtain contracts for work from the federal government. It's right there in the name and everything.

3. Even if the previous two things were not true I'm not sure what would be hypocritical about giving pay to some people who are in a certain position and not to other people who are in a completely different position. You might disagree with it, but "wrong" and "hypocritical" are not remotely the same thing.

4. Under Sec 1312(d)(3)(D) of the ACA, Members of Congress and certain staff are in fact REQUIRED to purchase plans created under the ACA or offered through an ACA exchange, assuming they want to continue to get health care through their employer (the federal government). It's hard to make a statement any wronger than "Congress isn't on a stupid Obamacare healthplan."

I hope he feels humored now.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Paul Ryan loves voodoo economics, hopefully he doesn't get it

He's a hypocrite of the first order (He wants family leave? Oh, it's OK for him but not working families? Donkeyhole) and his world's Venn diagram is a circle containing Ayn Rand on one side, a circle containing the Bible on the other, and his sorry Eddie Munster looking ### trying vaingloriously to drag the two of them together.

They are all hypocrites. Obama gave back pay to his federal employees but not contractors after the last shutdown. Contractors are people missing paychecks just like the federal employees were.Congress isn't on a stupid Obamacare health plan but the rest of us have our health care affected by the crappy piece of crap legislation. If it's so great why for everyone why aren't the people that voted it in using it?

Pretty much every part of this post is factually wrong.

LOL. No it isn't. I used to work right in the middle of some of it. But humor me what's factually incorrect in each part of the post?

1. Obama doesn't give back pay to anyone. It's done by Congress. Obama simply signs the bill.

2. Neither Obama nor Congress are in a position to give pay back to contractors. They're not employees of the federal government, they're employed by private entities who obtain contracts for work from the federal government. It's right there in the name and everything.

3. Even if the previous two things were not true I'm not sure what would be hypocritical about giving pay to some people who are in a certain position and not to other people who are in a completely different position. You might disagree with it, but "wrong" and "hypocritical" are not remotely the same thing.

4. Under Sec 1312(d)(3)(D) of the ACA, Members of Congress and certain staff are in fact REQUIRED to purchase plans created under the ACA or offered through an ACA exchange, assuming they want to continue to get health care through their employer (the federal government). It's hard to make a statement any wronger than "Congress isn't on a stupid Obamacare healthplan."

I hope he feels humored now.

I know I certainly do.

 

[timschochet]

sounds like there might be a budget deal tonight

Which includes raising the debt ceiling until 2017.

But can they get it past the Tea Partiers? If they do, it's a great victory for the Republican party, and it really helps the GOP candidates as well (the "serious" ones, like Rubio and Bush).

The only way it gets through is with Democratic votes. How is this a great win for the Republicans? Well except for the new speaker who can preen, pose and do nothing but try to rile up the base since Boehner did all the work.

Assuming it passes, it's a win for Republicans, IMO, because it prevents the split in that party that we all know is coming, which could ruin their electoral chances in 2016. That split, between the conservative Tea Party types and the traditional establishment types, is not going away. It's pretty inevitable. But by raising the debt ceiling and passing a budget for the next two years, it gives the GOP the appearance of a unified political party who can unified behind one candidate- IF that candidate is somebody like Rubio, Bush or Kasich, and not Trump or Carson or Cruz.

 

[The Commish]

And what does this grand bargain do? Well we get to spend even more on the military because 700 billion still isn't a trillion. But we have to cut SS and Medicare disability because we sure can't afford to take care of our disabled but we really,really need some more bombs.

 

[NCCommish]

sounds like there might be a budget deal tonight

Which includes raising the debt ceiling until 2017. But can they get it past the Tea Partiers? If they do, it's a great victory for the Republican party, and it really helps the GOP candidates as well (the "serious" ones, like Rubio and Bush).

The only way it gets through is with Democratic votes. How is this a great win for the Republicans? Well except for the new speaker who can preen, pose and do nothing but try to rile up the base since Boehner did all the work.

Assuming it passes, it's a win for Republicans, IMO, because it prevents the split in that party that we all know is coming, which could ruin their electoral chances in 2016. That split, between the conservative Tea Party types and the traditional establishment types, is not going away. It's pretty inevitable. But by raising the debt ceiling and passing a budget for the next two years, it gives the GOP the appearance of a unified political party who can unified behind one candidate- IF that candidate is somebody like Rubio, Bush or Kasich, and not Trump or Carson or Cruz.

You know full well a ton of Republicans are going to vote against this. This is going highlight the differences not show unity. Freedom Caucus just for thinking about voting for it got called RINOs. This fixes nothing and really doesn't even paper over much.

 

[George Jefferson Airplane]

Paul Ryan loves voodoo economics, hopefully he doesn't get it

He's a hypocrite of the first order (He wants family leave? Oh, it's OK for him but not working families? Donkeyhole) and his world's Venn diagram is a circle containing Ayn Rand on one side, a circle containing the Bible on the other, and his sorry Eddie Munster looking ### trying vaingloriously to drag the two of them together.

They are all hypocrites. Obama gave back pay to his federal employees but not contractors after the last shutdown. Contractors are people missing paychecks just like the federal employees were.Congress isn't on a stupid Obamacare health plan but the rest of us have our health care affected by the crappy piece of crap legislation. If it's so great why for everyone why aren't the people that voted it in using it?

Pretty much every part of this post is factually wrong.

LOL. No it isn't. I used to work right in the middle of some of it. But humor me what's factually incorrect in each part of the post?

1. Obama doesn't give back pay to anyone. It's done by Congress. Obama simply signs the bill.

2. Neither Obama nor Congress are in a position to give pay back to contractors. They're not employees of the federal government, they're employed by private entities who obtain contracts for work from the federal government. It's right there in the name and everything.

3. Even if the previous two things were not true I'm not sure what would be hypocritical about giving pay to some people who are in a certain position and not to other people who are in a completely different position. You might disagree with it, but "wrong" and "hypocritical" are not remotely the same thing.

4. Under Sec 1312(d)(3)(D) of the ACA, Members of Congress and certain staff are in fact REQUIRED to purchase plans created under the ACA or offered through an ACA exchange, assuming they want to continue to get health care through their employer (the federal government). It's hard to make a statement any wronger than "Congress isn't on a stupid Obamacare healthplan."

Rambling just got Wrecked.