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Brady throws team under bus (1 Viewer)
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How about just saying "I made a bad throw" then shut up and lead by example.fantasysharkctb
Footballguy
Doesn't surprise me.
maxwelledison
Footballguy
I don't see how this is throwing teammates under the bus. It sounds to me a lot like a battle tested veteran with three rings saying his team needs to be better. I strongly doubt he considers himself exempt from the criticism and most likely every player in the locker room knows that.
Itchy Amos
Footballguy
You are reading way to much into it.
I think he is just offering up his personal opinion of how things have changed over the years. There are few people more qualified to offer an opinion of what is happening in Foxboro than Tom Brady.
I think he is just offering up his personal opinion of how things have changed over the years. There are few people more qualified to offer an opinion of what is happening in Foxboro than Tom Brady.
Sam Quentin
Footballguy
This is Brady "throwing the team under the bus"? I missed the part where he's excluding himself from the "we".It doesn't bother me. Brady has earned the right to say some things like that....................now if JeMarcus Russel says it, that's a wee bit different.
When you get shredded by Chad Henne for 300+ yards and 2 TD's you know the problems are huge on the team. Yea, Brady made a bad pass on that one play and I doubt you'd ever hear him say "that play wasn't my fault" but it's one play ina 3 hour game.
Brady's frustrated and he's being honest about how he feels. I wish there was more of that in sports.
I wish Tom Cable had the guts to say "my owner's nuts and Russel is a horrible QB" I wish Belicheck would look into the camera and say "yep, I'm a moron and I screwed up........also, my defense sucks" I wish Steven Jackson would say "Santa, please bring me a different team for Xmas" I wish John Harbaugh would say "my defense makes stupid penalties that cost us games every single week"..............I suppose I could go on and on.
When you get shredded by Chad Henne for 300+ yards and 2 TD's you know the problems are huge on the team. Yea, Brady made a bad pass on that one play and I doubt you'd ever hear him say "that play wasn't my fault" but it's one play ina 3 hour game.
Brady's frustrated and he's being honest about how he feels. I wish there was more of that in sports.
I wish Tom Cable had the guts to say "my owner's nuts and Russel is a horrible QB" I wish Belicheck would look into the camera and say "yep, I'm a moron and I screwed up........also, my defense sucks" I wish Steven Jackson would say "Santa, please bring me a different team for Xmas" I wish John Harbaugh would say "my defense makes stupid penalties that cost us games every single week"..............I suppose I could go on and on.
I think you couldn't be more wrong. I don't like Brady. But come on, he is right, the team is not as dedicated and focused as past teams. What is wrong with him stating that? He is calling people out, as he is the leader. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird used to do the same thing and they lead their teams to several championships each. Winners know what it takes to win, and when you don't see people taking it as serious as they should it upsets you.
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He trid to be PC about it, but he clearly is blaming others, saying they're not working hard enough. Guess it's their fault he threw that INT, right?How about just saying "I made a bad throw" then shut up and lead by example.
Sorry if this is a honda, didn't see anyone else post this.
Crusaderfan
Footballguy
I'm neither a NE fan or a Brady fan but what is your agenda here? Things like this pretty much get said every week. 
switz
Footballguy
I agree with what you say in premise, but come on. The Pats lost on an INT that Brady threw... not due to a lack of commitment, or hard work, or anything else. They lost because Brady threw an INT instead of a TD. Why not address that, instead of saying the whole team is uncommitted blah blah blah. Leadership is owning up to your own mistakes. Instead Brady is blaming the entire team.And if this was a non-issue, why does NFL.com have it on their home page?
Drew RosenhausFan
Footballguy
i have a bigger problem with him looking to see if the ref threw a flag before he looks to see if the pass was completed every time someone puts a hit on him.
dansav
Footballguy
For starters, I applaud Brady for saying what we’re all thinking. There’s losing games, and then there’s losing games like the one they coughed up on Sunday, which is unacceptable. And I appreciate the timing; he didn’t wait until after he had a great game and the rest of team blew it. He said it after a game in which he could’ve sealed the win but threw a bad pick in the endzone, which ironically gives his words more credibility in my mind. And while Brady is an unfailingly good teammate, who could just sit there, draw his paycheck, watch Gisele’s breasts engorge and protect his Mr. Nice Guy image by keeping his mouth shut, he knows that being a quarterback ipso facto means being a leader. It means speaking up. It’s unavoidable, no matter how uncomfortable, say, Drew Bledsoe was in the role. Some have greatness thrust upon them, and Brady knows he is such a guy. And as analyzed as Brady is, one thing that doesn’t get enough attention is how careful and calculating he is. This isn’t a frustrated Peyton Manning pointing fingers with “I’m trying to be a good teammate here, but there were some problems with the protection…” Brady chose these words like he always does: with the utmost care. I have to believe he’s delivered this same message behind closed doors in the practice bubble, the locker room and the film room, and it just got to the point he had to say it to the world so it would be broadcast loud enough to be heard by whomever isn’t listening.
Which begs the question: Who is he talking about? Who on the team is not putting in the 5 hours on Wednesday? Who’s not putting the work in and the time in and the commitment into each other? I mean, he implies he’s talking about all 53 guys, but should we take it to mean he’s talking about someone in particular? I almost wish he’d given us some hint like in one of those Inside Track blind items I can never figure out. Which of us isn’t working hard enough? Well a rolling stone gathers no moss… or something. Which is the problem any time you call out your teammates. Once you start suggesting some of you aren’t doing the right things, it leaves everyone open to speculation. But after losing 3 of your last 4 and going 0-for-5 in opponent’s stadiums this year, there’s no sense in trying to spare anyone’s feelings. Some guys will respond positively, some perhaps won’t. But the time to find out who those guys are is right now before the whole season slips away. And that’s what being a leader is. Of course, not throwing that interception in the endzone would’ve worked too.
-el pres
Which begs the question: Who is he talking about? Who on the team is not putting in the 5 hours on Wednesday? Who’s not putting the work in and the time in and the commitment into each other? I mean, he implies he’s talking about all 53 guys, but should we take it to mean he’s talking about someone in particular? I almost wish he’d given us some hint like in one of those Inside Track blind items I can never figure out. Which of us isn’t working hard enough? Well a rolling stone gathers no moss… or something. Which is the problem any time you call out your teammates. Once you start suggesting some of you aren’t doing the right things, it leaves everyone open to speculation. But after losing 3 of your last 4 and going 0-for-5 in opponent’s stadiums this year, there’s no sense in trying to spare anyone’s feelings. Some guys will respond positively, some perhaps won’t. But the time to find out who those guys are is right now before the whole season slips away. And that’s what being a leader is. Of course, not throwing that interception in the endzone would’ve worked too.
-el pres
switz
Footballguy
If that's true, so be it. But the Pats didn't lose because someone didn't come in on Monday and put in 5 hours, they lost because Brady threw an unwise pass that resulted in an INT - twice. They lost because Miami converted on 4th down when NE couldn't, and Belichick made an unwise decision to go for it on 4th, when so far this season it hasn't turned out well.Brady's comments weren't beneficial, and he didn't accept blame for throwing those INTs. He tried to take the attention away from himself by saying the whole team wasn't committed... I'd have been much more impressed with him pointing to the real issues.Buffaloes said:
I agree with you that the INT was the fault of Brady and/or Moss. That was a major reason for the loss. But there were other reasons -- Sammy Morris up the middle on 4th down in the red zone, a truly porous pass defense (Bess vs. Butler couldn't be hidden?), and no pass rush whatsoever. I interpret his comments to be saying it is a team effort, and we all have to dig deeper to address these issues. Future opponents will study the tape and do the same things, and Brady can't be perfect every time himself.switz said:
Sammy Traveller
Footballguy
that's his competitive spirit talking. i still continue to be amazed that NE found themselves a great competitor in Brady with their sixth-round draft selection.
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
Congrats, man. You found a way to get the Shark Pool to rally behind Tom Brady. Tough task.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Todem
Footballguy
Brady is the teams field general....he has the right to call out his team. The guy is an MVP Super Bowl champ.
This is a real reach.
This is Tom Brady people. He is mentioned in the same breath wit the likes of, Montana, Marino, Elway, Manning.
Sheesh.
This is a real reach.
This is Tom Brady people. He is mentioned in the same breath wit the likes of, Montana, Marino, Elway, Manning.
Sheesh.
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The Comedian
Footballguy
Thanks for crapping more crap into the SP, switz.
bahamallama
Footballguy
I wouldn't worry about it, the NFL will make a new Tom Brady rule that says whenever he throws an interception he can either have the ball where the other team caught it or a "do over".
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Abrantes
Footballguy
I can't imagine that someone who actually watched the game would pin the loss exclusively on Brady, despite his costly mistakes. It was a mess.
Also, I can't remember the last Patriots press conference where they emphasized individual errors over the team as a whole, given the coaching staff's focus on that aspect. It's the way they do things, so none of this is all that surprising.
Also, I can't remember the last Patriots press conference where they emphasized individual errors over the team as a whole, given the coaching staff's focus on that aspect. It's the way they do things, so none of this is all that surprising.
Jewell
Footballguy
It sounds like he is being a leader. Would you prefer a QB that buries his head in the sand when he sees teammates that are not giving it their all? Sometimes players won't listen to their coach, but they will listen to a teammate who's earned respect. That's why coaches love veteran leadership in the lockerroom, and that's why nearly every coach would love this sort of fire from their starting QB.I also see a lot of "we" in Brady's quote. I don't see how he exempted himself from his own criticism.switz said:
Why are you calling out Cutler here!? j/kIt sounds like he is being a leader. Would you prefer a QB that buries his head in the sand when he sees teammates that are not giving it their all? Sometimes players won't listen to their coach, but they will listen to a teammate who's earned respect. That's why coaches love veteran leadership in the lockerroom, and that's why nearly every coach would love this sort of fire from their starting QB.I also see a lot of "we" in Brady's quote. I don't see how he exempted himself from his own criticism.
Neal Cassady
Footballguy
sho nuff said:red said:Agreed.
Cawbird
Footballguy
I could care less as to who said what. As a Brady/Moss owner............I am hoping that this inspires the entire team and they go back to 2007 where they try to score at will and chuck the ball allover the field!
From a fantasy standpoint, that was a perfect loss for NE player owners........they are now in a dogfight for the playoffs!
GO BRADY..............more inspiration please.
From a fantasy standpoint, that was a perfect loss for NE player owners........they are now in a dogfight for the playoffs!
GO BRADY..............more inspiration please.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Not sure I get your point. His direct quote was "at times I don't think WE fight very hard". Sounds like he's throwing himself under that bus as well.switz said:link
He trid to be PC about it, but he clearly is blaming others, saying they're not working hard enough. Guess it's their fault he threw that INT, right?
Sorry if this is a honda, didn't see anyone else post this.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
For those unaware, Peyton Manning said that after a Colts loss a few years ago. And that comment is worse than anything Brady said the last few days. This is a pointless thread.Buffaloes said:
He does do that a lot, but I think his knee injury has made him paranoid about hits to his body, which is why he is always looking for a flag when he gets popped. Makes you wonder when, if ever, he will ever get over the mental hurdle of that injury.Drew RosenhausFan said:
Spike
Footballguy
The pass simply was too low. There was never any "air" under it for Moss to do his thing.(I'm not the biggest Moss supporter, just saying it how I saw it.)
Simply a bad pass.
theplayer11
Footballguy
stupid post alert
MCguidance
Footballguy
No one was thrown under the bus there, IMO.
