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Brandon Jackson turning heads in Packer camp (1 Viewer)

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Brandon Jackson is Turning Heads at Packers Camp

Posted May 5th 2007 10:59AM by Dan Benton

Filed under: Packers, NFC North

Many fans, including myself, were severely disappointed with the Green Bay Packers draft. Considering the areas of need, they seemed seem to draft backwards. Rather than grabbing a running back in the first round, they grabbed a defensive tackle. It was a theme that continued throughout the day.

Despite our disappointments, there seems to be a ray of hope. Second-round running back Brandon Jackson (Nebraska) is already turning heads. He saw the bulk of the carries in the Packers first day of minicamp yesterday and the coaches wasted no time in praising him.

"First of all, he's a good running back," Reggie McKenzie said. "He's quick. He's got great vision. He's hard to tackle. He's got all the attributes that we look for in a running back."

The pressure is not lost on the rookie running back. Jackson realizes what is at stake and the chances he has.

"There's an opportunity here to come in and play right away and even an opportunity to start," Jackson said. "There's a big responsibility just because they've put a lot on me."

By all accounts, he fits right in with the Packers and their running game. Despite the presence of Vernand Morency, it looks like this is Jackson's job to lose. Fantasy Football gurus, take notice.

 
Stingdiddy said:
Many fans, including myself, were severely disappointed with the Green Bay Packers draft. Considering the areas of need, they seemed seem to draft backwards. Rather than grabbing a running back in the first round, they grabbed a defensive tackle. It was a theme that continued throughout the day.

By all accounts, he fits right in with the Packers and their running game. Despite the presence of Vernand Morency, it looks like this is Jackson's job to lose. Fantasy Football gurus, take notice.
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Some fans, including myself, like the way Thompson is building this team. Rather than reach for "needs", he continues to try and draft the best team possible and draft guys that are the right fit to the scheme and philosophy.I still don't have high expectations for this year because of a seemingly tough schedule, but I think he has the team going in the right direction in spite of some horrendous drafts by Sherman.

 
Stingdiddy said:
Brandon Jackson is Turning Heads at Packers Camp

Posted May 5th 2007 10:59AM by Dan Benton

Filed under: Packers, NFC North

Many fans, including myself, were severely disappointed with the Green Bay Packers draft. Considering the areas of need, they seemed seem to draft backwards. Rather than grabbing a running back in the first round, they grabbed a defensive tackle. It was a theme that continued throughout the day.
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This guy is an idiot, what RB was GB suppose to take at #16?
 
uwgb96 said:
Stingdiddy said:
Many fans, including myself, were severely disappointed with the Green Bay Packers draft. Considering the areas of need, they seemed seem to draft backwards. Rather than grabbing a running back in the first round, they grabbed a defensive tackle. It was a theme that continued throughout the day.

By all accounts, he fits right in with the Packers and their running game. Despite the presence of Vernand Morency, it looks like this is Jackson's job to lose. Fantasy Football gurus, take notice.
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Some fans, including myself, like the way Thompson is building this team. Rather than reach for "needs", he continues to try and draft the best team possible and draft guys that are the right fit to the scheme and philosophy.I still don't have high expectations for this year because of a seemingly tough schedule, but I think he has the team going in the right direction in spite of some horrendous drafts by Sherman.
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I agree with your post except for one thing...I think the Packers are going to have a good/great year and will go 10-6. I know they have a difficult schedule, but, the NFC North isn't that great. The Bears are going to crash and burn just like most Superbowl losers, the Lions always suck and T. Jackson still needs another year or two before the Vikings will be good. The offensive line will be even better than last year. I like the Packer's chances to make it to the playoffs and win during the playoffs. If the Packers can scoop Keyshawn Johnson, I like their chances even more.
 
I'm having a hard time with the "it is Jackson's job to lose" part of the article.

The guy has taken a handful of snaps in this offense, to say that it is his job to lose at this point is ridiculous.

Although, he most likely will pass out Morency eventually.

 
Stingdiddy said:
uwgb96 said:
Stingdiddy said:
Many fans, including myself, were severely disappointed with the Green Bay Packers draft. Considering the areas of need, they seemed seem to draft backwards. Rather than grabbing a running back in the first round, they grabbed a defensive tackle. It was a theme that continued throughout the day.

By all accounts, he fits right in with the Packers and their running game. Despite the presence of Vernand Morency, it looks like this is Jackson's job to lose. Fantasy Football gurus, take notice.
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Some fans, including myself, like the way Thompson is building this team. Rather than reach for "needs", he continues to try and draft the best team possible and draft guys that are the right fit to the scheme and philosophy.I still don't have high expectations for this year because of a seemingly tough schedule, but I think he has the team going in the right direction in spite of some horrendous drafts by Sherman.
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I agree with your post except for one thing...I think the Packers are going to have a good/great year and will go 10-6. I know they have a difficult schedule, but, the NFC North isn't that great. The Bears are going to crash and burn just like most Superbowl losers, the Lions always suck and T. Jackson still needs another year or two before the Vikings will be good. The offensive line will be even better than last year. I like the Packer's chances to make it to the playoffs and win during the playoffs. If the Packers can scoop Keyshawn Johnson, I like their chances even more.
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uwgb96 said:
Stingdiddy said:
Many fans, including myself, were severely disappointed with the Green Bay Packers draft. Considering the areas of need, they seemed seem to draft backwards. Rather than grabbing a running back in the first round, they grabbed a defensive tackle. It was a theme that continued throughout the day.

By all accounts, he fits right in with the Packers and their running game. Despite the presence of Vernand Morency, it looks like this is Jackson's job to lose. Fantasy Football gurus, take notice.
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Some fans, including myself, like the way Thompson is building this team. Rather than reach for "needs", he continues to try and draft the best team possible and draft guys that are the right fit to the scheme and philosophy.I still don't have high expectations for this year because of a seemingly tough schedule, but I think he has the team going in the right direction in spite of some horrendous drafts by Sherman.
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Thank you. It is finally nice to hear a Packer fan say something good about the draft. All I've heard is how they want to run TT out of town. I like the way he is building a team as well. Many don't realize how messed up this team was under Sherman not only from a lack of talent but also in regards to the salary cap. It won't be done overnight. I think he is positioning them very nicely for the future.
 
While it's way too soon to get excited over Jackson, he's definitely got among the easier paths to a starting gig compared to most other RBs. That alone makes it worth keeping an eye on him.

 
exactly what did he do at camp this week? No pads, no hitting, a few runs here and there, a pass or 2 in the flat. Lets see what he does once the hitting starts and its real time real sped football. He does have the best chance ot start right out of the gate for rookies.

 
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I was recently at 1.10 debating between B Jax, Bowe and S Rice, all of whom had fallen. I took a look at the youtube video of B Jax and was actually quite impressed at a) his feet, b) his decisiveness and c) his tendency to fall forward. He looks like a real NFL RB.

Early rookie drafts are really all over the map; there is no consensus beyond the top 3. I've seen Rice, Bowe, B Jax go really late in some drafts (Ginn late in all drafts), and RB3-7 has seemed pseudo-random (guys like Bush, B Jax, Henry going anywhere from 1.04 to second round).

Come late summer rookie drafts though, I strongly suspect that B Jax will be the consensus RB3 at 1.04/1.05.

I also suspect that Ginn will shoot up the boards toward the mid-first. I myself am guilty of passing on him at 1.15 in a PPR, but I do think there is a lot of groupthink with him--classic case of "so many people think he's overrated, he's become underrated". When you see a WR drafted at 1.09 falling behind RB's and WR's drafted in the third & fourth rounds, something strange is afoot.

 
mcjc4 said:
exactly what did he do at camp this week? No pads, no hitting, a few runs here and there, a pass or 2 in the flat. Lets see what he does once the hitting starts and its real time real sped football. He does have the best chance ot start right out of the gate for rookies.
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I got excited when I saw him run the ball at Nebraska last year...which is what I've been saying for several months now.
 
The Man Who Met Andy Griffith said:
I was recently at 1.10 debating between B Jax, Bowe and S Rice, all of whom had fallen. I took a look at the youtube video of B Jax and was actually quite impressed at a) his feet, b) his decisiveness and c) his tendency to fall forward. He looks like a real NFL RB.Early rookie drafts are really all over the map; there is no consensus beyond the top 3. I've seen Rice, Bowe, B Jax go really late in some drafts (Ginn late in all drafts), and RB3-7 has seemed pseudo-random (guys like Bush, B Jax, Henry going anywhere from 1.04 to second round).Come late summer rookie drafts though, I strongly suspect that B Jax will be the consensus RB3 at 1.04/1.05. I also suspect that Ginn will shoot up the boards toward the mid-first. I myself am guilty of passing on him at 1.15 in a PPR, but I do think there is a lot of groupthink with him--classic case of "so many people think he's overrated, he's become underrated". When you see a WR drafted at 1.09 falling behind RB's and WR's drafted in the third & fourth rounds, something strange is afoot.
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I tend to agree, though I couldn't pull the trigger on him in one league at 1.04 (I went with Russell instead). If I were 1.05-1.08, I most likely would have taken him....
 
LHUCKS said:
mcjc4 said:
exactly what did he do at camp this week? No pads, no hitting, a few runs here and there, a pass or 2 in the flat. Lets see what he does once the hitting starts and its real time real sped football. He does have the best chance ot start right out of the gate for rookies.
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I got excited when I saw him run the ball at Nebraska last year...which is what I've been saying for several months now.
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:lmao:
 
Currently living in the crappy state of NE. I thought BJax looked pretty good last year and thought when he came out I might be able to get a steal but it looks like everyone is already on this booger. Looks like I have lost out on the only benefit of living in Nebraska.

 
I see no one is hip to the real Pack starter--DeShawn Wynn.

You want a sleeper, this is your guy.

From the Press Gazette

-- Asked earlier today what he thinks coaches want to see, seventh-round draft pick DeShawn Wynn said "smartness and toughness." The latter came in question almost immediately as Wynn left practice early with a left calf injury. He had a wrap on it for an extended period and did not return. It's unclear whether he'll participate the rest of the weekend. While he was on the field, Wynn fumbled one handoff from John Stocco and fell flat on his face on another carry.

Stud.

 
massraider said:
I see no one is hip to the real Pack starter--DeShawn Wynn.

You want a sleeper, this is your guy.

From the Press Gazette

-- Asked earlier today what he thinks coaches want to see, seventh-round draft pick DeShawn Wynn said "smartness and toughness." The latter came in question almost immediately as Wynn left practice early with a left calf injury. He had a wrap on it for an extended period and did not return. It's unclear whether he'll participate the rest of the weekend. While he was on the field, Wynn fumbled one handoff from John Stocco and fell flat on his face on another carry.

Stud.
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not commenting on the merit of your post, but at least you know the definition of sleeper.If everyone and their dog is talking about a player, then that player is definitely NOT a sleeper . . .

 
This is perhaps one of the most intriguing situations in terms of dynasty production. The line is young and learning and so is Jackson. There are major considerations with this guy and he could be a very successful NFL RB if the cards are right.

Some things I noticed about him:

-Despite his 4.38 pro-day time, he seemed to lack the breakaway speed that time would indicate.

-Part of the problem stems from first contact; he loses a huge chunk of speed with initial contact. He has moves to make defenders miss but when he absorbs that initial hit, the chance for him to breakaway, even with an open field, is virtually nil. Good 10-20 yard acceleration.

-Great toughness and willingness to fight for those extra yards.

-Spotty balance, as he sometimes will trip over himself, but exceptional when he is on. Can just bounce off tackles and slip by defenders. Reminds me a bit of Maurice Jones-Drew in this sense.

-Does not use the stiffarm at all. Because of this he absorbs a good bit of hits but also loses the potential for more yardage. In at least 5 instances that I have seen, a stiffarm would have allowed him the chance for breakaway touchdowns but he seems reluctant to use it, even if it seems natural to do so. (Perhaps because of his compact frame, the stiffarm is not as effective. E.G. short arms)

-Good good vision, slips through holes, follows blockers and can catch out of the backfield and turn upfield.

While some may think that I have listed too many deficiencies to mirror my enthusiasm for him, I would counter that most of these areas of weakness are correctable. He is a perfect fit for the ZBS and with that line finally starting to emerge, he has all the pieces to have a good tenure at Green Bay. NFL defenders sure will be more clingy and will attack his lower body and he will have to compensate by getting stronger and effectively learning to use that stiffarm. If the stars align, however, he may end up one hell of a dynasty steal.

 
nshelat1 said:
This is perhaps one of the most intriguing situations in terms of dynasty production. The line is young and learning and so is Jackson. There are major considerations with this guy and he could be a very successful NFL RB if the cards are right.

Some things I noticed about him:

-Despite his 4.38 pro-day time, he seemed to lack the breakaway speed that time would indicate.

-Part of the problem stems from first contact; he loses a huge chunk of speed with initial contact. He has moves to make defenders miss but when he absorbs that initial hit, the chance for him to breakaway, even with an open field, is virtually nil. Good 10-20 yard acceleration.

-Great toughness and willingness to fight for those extra yards.

-Spotty balance, as he sometimes will trip over himself, but exceptional when he is on. Can just bounce off tackles and slip by defenders. Reminds me a bit of Maurice Jones-Drew in this sense.

-Does not use the stiffarm at all. Because of this he absorbs a good bit of hits but also loses the potential for more yardage. In at least 5 instances that I have seen, a stiffarm would have allowed him the chance for breakaway touchdowns but he seems reluctant to use it, even if it seems natural to do so. (Perhaps because of his compact frame, the stiffarm is not as effective. E.G. short arms)

-Good good vision, slips through holes, follows blockers and can catch out of the backfield and turn upfield.

While some may think that I have listed too many deficiencies to mirror my enthusiasm for him, I would counter that most of these areas of weakness are correctable. He is a perfect fit for the ZBS and with that line finally starting to emerge, he has all the pieces to have a good tenure at Green Bay. NFL defenders sure will be more clingy and will attack his lower body and he will have to compensate by getting stronger and effectively learning to use that stiffarm. If the stars align, however, he may end up one hell of a dynasty steal.
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How are you going to steal him?? He won't go in the top 3; I'd say he's going from 4 to 7 . . .
 
uwgb96 said:
Stingdiddy said:
Many fans, including myself, were severely disappointed with the Green Bay Packers draft. Considering the areas of need, they seemed seem to draft backwards. Rather than grabbing a running back in the first round, they grabbed a defensive tackle. It was a theme that continued throughout the day.

By all accounts, he fits right in with the Packers and their running game. Despite the presence of Vernand Morency, it looks like this is Jackson's job to lose. Fantasy Football gurus, take notice.
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Some fans, including myself, like the way Thompson is building this team. Rather than reach for "needs", he continues to try and draft the best team possible and draft guys that are the right fit to the scheme and philosophy.I still don't have high expectations for this year because of a seemingly tough schedule, but I think he has the team going in the right direction in spite of some horrendous drafts by Sherman.
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That's fine to a point but if you have needs you don't keep drafting your strongest position. My problem was TT drafetd several players that had injury problems.
 
massraider said:
I see no one is hip to the real Pack starter--DeShawn Wynn.

You want a sleeper, this is your guy.

From the Press Gazette

-- Asked earlier today what he thinks coaches want to see, seventh-round draft pick DeShawn Wynn said "smartness and toughness." The latter came in question almost immediately as Wynn left practice early with a left calf injury. He had a wrap on it for an extended period and did not return. It's unclear whether he'll participate the rest of the weekend. While he was on the field, Wynn fumbled one handoff from John Stocco and fell flat on his face on another carry.

Stud.
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He's still asleep. :shrug: The definition of a true sleeper.

 
bcr8f said:
massraider said:
I see no one is hip to the real Pack starter--DeShawn Wynn.

You want a sleeper, this is your guy.

From the Press Gazette

-- Asked earlier today what he thinks coaches want to see, seventh-round draft pick DeShawn Wynn said "smartness and toughness." The latter came in question almost immediately as Wynn left practice early with a left calf injury. He had a wrap on it for an extended period and did not return. It's unclear whether he'll participate the rest of the weekend. While he was on the field, Wynn fumbled one handoff from John Stocco and fell flat on his face on another carry.

Stud.
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He's still asleep. :shrug: The definition of a true sleeper.
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Yeah, I went cruising Packer boards and such, looking for signs of DeShawn's impending rise to glory, and I found that turd of a story. I think it'll be the least sexy outcome: Morency or RBBC. I think we can all try and talk ourselves into something else, but that's my best guess.

 
Stingdiddy said:
In all future discussions, can we please refer to Brandon Jackson as B Jax? Thanks in advance.
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As an owner of the 5th pick in my dynasty league, I feel like I can't lose. I either get the starting rb for the packers, or one of the best qb prospects to come out in years. I love this game !
 
I got Jackson at 1.07 in my dynasty draft last night. The picks went like this:

1,01 Peterson, Adrian MIN RB

1.02 Johnson, Calvin DET WR

1.03 Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB

1.04 Quinn, Brady CLE QB

1.05 Russell, JaMarcus OAK QB

1.06 Bush, Michael OAK RB

1.07 Jackson, Brandon GBP RB :eek:

 
el-gato-grande said:
I got Jackson at 1.07 in my dynasty draft last night. The picks went like this:1,01 Peterson, Adrian MIN RB1.02 Johnson, Calvin DET WR1.03 Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB1.04 Quinn, Brady CLE QB1.05 Russell, JaMarcus OAK QB1.06 Bush, Michael OAK RB1.07 Jackson, Brandon GBP RB :eek:
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the owner of 1.06 must be a raider fan . . .
 
Mr. Peterson said:
duaneok66 said:
el-gato-grande said:
I got Jackson at 1.07 in my dynasty draft last night. The picks went like this:1,01 Peterson, Adrian MIN RB1.02 Johnson, Calvin DET WR1.03 Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB1.04 Quinn, Brady CLE QB1.05 Russell, JaMarcus OAK QB1.06 Bush, Michael OAK RB1.07 Jackson, Brandon GBP RB :confused:
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the owner of 1.06 must be a raider fan . . .
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Maybe not. That's where he's been going in alot of drafts.
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OK, so I'm naive. Why would you take him there . . . he's currently third behind a high salary guy and an (admittedly overrated) Dominic Rhodes . . .
 
uwgb96 said:
Stingdiddy said:
Many fans, including myself, were severely disappointed with the Green Bay Packers draft. Considering the areas of need, they seemed seem to draft backwards. Rather than grabbing a running back in the first round, they grabbed a defensive tackle. It was a theme that continued throughout the day.

By all accounts, he fits right in with the Packers and their running game. Despite the presence of Vernand Morency, it looks like this is Jackson's job to lose. Fantasy Football gurus, take notice.
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Some fans, including myself, like the way Thompson is building this team. Rather than reach for "needs", he continues to try and draft the best team possible and draft guys that are the right fit to the scheme and philosophy.I still don't have high expectations for this year because of a seemingly tough schedule, but I think he has the team going in the right direction in spite of some horrendous drafts by Sherman.
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The schedule statistically (based on last year of course) is the 23rd toughest with a .492 record last season for their opponents.http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2830466

Though, much of that has to do with playing in the North...see the Bears having the 2nd easiest schedule in the league.

 
osubuckeyeman said:
duaneok66 said:
Mr. Peterson said:
duaneok66 said:
el-gato-grande said:
I got Jackson at 1.07 in my dynasty draft last night. The picks went like this:1,01 Peterson, Adrian MIN RB1.02 Johnson, Calvin DET WR1.03 Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB1.04 Quinn, Brady CLE QB1.05 Russell, JaMarcus OAK QB1.06 Bush, Michael OAK RB1.07 Jackson, Brandon GBP RB :goodposting:
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the owner of 1.06 must be a raider fan . . .
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Maybe not. That's where he's been going in alot of drafts.
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OK, so I'm naive. Why would you take him there . . . he's currently third behind a high salary guy and an (admittedly overrated) Dominic Rhodes . . .
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Lane is your answer. He thinks he's Lendale White.
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This is a one year deal for Dom Rhodes and Lamont's last chance to show he can be a starter to depend on.If not, Mike Bush gets his chance - high risk, high reward for this RB
 
duaneok66 said:
Mr. Peterson said:
duaneok66 said:
el-gato-grande said:
I got Jackson at 1.07 in my dynasty draft last night. The picks went like this:1,01 Peterson, Adrian MIN RB1.02 Johnson, Calvin DET WR1.03 Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB1.04 Quinn, Brady CLE QB1.05 Russell, JaMarcus OAK QB1.06 Bush, Michael OAK RB1.07 Jackson, Brandon GBP RB :bag:
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the owner of 1.06 must be a raider fan . . .
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Maybe not. That's where he's been going in alot of drafts.
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OK, so I'm naive. Why would you take him there . . . he's currently third behind a high salary guy and an (admittedly overrated) Dominic Rhodes . . .
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Lamont actually took a pay cut, so I'm not sure he's considered a tough obstacle to the starting job. And Rhodes is Rhodes. With those two, there's no rush for Bush to come back from the broken leg.It's a shot at a big payoff. I would take Jackson over him as well, but it's not a slam dunk.
 
massraider said:
I see no one is hip to the real Pack starter--DeShawn Wynn.

You want a sleeper, this is your guy.

From the Press Gazette

-- Asked earlier today what he thinks coaches want to see, seventh-round draft pick DeShawn Wynn said "smartness and toughness." The latter came in question almost immediately as Wynn left practice early with a left calf injury. He had a wrap on it for an extended period and did not return. It's unclear whether he'll participate the rest of the weekend. While he was on the field, Wynn fumbled one handoff from John Stocco and fell flat on his face on another carry.

Stud.
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shhhhhhh :sarcasm:
 
The hype machine is up and running. Jackson will be forgotten after is goes down in the 3rd game of the season if he is even the starter. Bush will be the better bet as a dynasty RB.

 
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HA! You want great beat coverage? The front page story on www.packers.com right now is a transcript of a press conference with the coach. Half way down the page they have a question with rookie RB "Brandon Johnson" listed, and a link to "Brandon Johnson" info. Good work jackasses.

 
el-gato-grande said:
I got Jackson at 1.07 in my dynasty draft last night. The picks went like this:1,01 Peterson, Adrian MIN RB1.02 Johnson, Calvin DET WR1.03 Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB1.04 Quinn, Brady CLE QB1.05 Russell, JaMarcus OAK QB1.06 Bush, Michael OAK RB1.07 Jackson, Brandon GBP RB :goodposting:
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;)
 
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