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Brandon Marshall Ruled Out For Sunday

I don't understand why Marshall is being called out in the media. What is this going to accomplish? I mean Marshall probably said he was not going to play so therefore is this a last resort in he hopes he will play. If anything this will make it worst you would think. Maybe Mcdaniels has had enough of dealing with Marshall and his attitude for the whole season and this is a message. Managing egos is one of the toughest part of being a professional coach. Mcdaniels will have to learn how to deal with these things better. Marshall has TO characteristics that also are a worry for anyone that owns this guy in dynasty leagues.

 
Remember those stories from ex-Patriots who talked about how the coaches wanted them to play through possibly serious injuries, and how them doing it hurt them in the long run, including in their post-football lives? Yeah, it sounds McDaniels has brought that same mentality over from New England to Denver. :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
No. :confused:
Ted Johnson immediately comes to mind.http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2751614

Anyways, here we are again dealing with McDaniels' drama. I've never seen a male so addicted to drama as he is.
That's exactly what I though when I heard this story. McDaniels is the Chad Johnson of coaches. Except without the being-good part.

The sad part of it for Bronco fans is that instead of losing the idiot, drama queen, power hungry coach, they're going to lose the best receicer in football and THEN lose the knucklehead coach a year later when the owner realizes how terrible he is.
Dear Brandon, There is a strong armed QB in Baltimore that could use a little help at the WR position. He can throw the ball accurately a country mile, and he doesn't lose his poise.

Sincerely,

Jim Harbaugh
You should also mention that your brother is the coach.
 
Can we go back to thinking that McDaniels is a jackass yet?
I have.
As have I. You would think that, coming from the Belichick tree, he would know to keep problems inside the locker room, but he seems to like airing any dirty laundry at all to the media. And it was easy to get caught up in the 6-0 start, but the 2-7 slide shows that the team quite obviously caught teams early on who weren't taking them completely serious (and they caught teams like NE and SD when they were still both have early season struggles), and once teams did, they had major troubles (their only wins since coming against the 3-12 Chiefs and a Giants team that is 3-7 in their last ten games), and McDaniels seems to have no idea how to get the team to handle any adversity (probably because his drama queen actions seem to be causing a great deal of the adversity).
 
McDaniels is a total clown! I thought he handled it terribly in preseason but was bailed out when Marshall decided to play well and that helped mend the relationship some. So instead of building on that momentum McDaniels does this now, I really don't think he will be successful as a head coach unless he learns from his failures. He did not learn from his first handling of Marshall and now this is going to loom all offseason and get very ugly. I don't see Marshall staying in Denver and that is a shame for Denver because he is a talent. I don't own him in any of my keeper leagues so I don't have any bias in this situation

 
The fact that Marshall didn't get a contract extension is a blessing in disguise for this guy. He still put up great numbers in a "meh" system and he can sign with a better team with better coaching next season for probably more money then the Broncos were going to offer. I'd love for my Giants to get him... Marshall/Nicks/Steve Smith... a boy can dream.
Marshall isn't a free agent after the seasonThe fact that Marshall didn't try to talk the coach out of benching him and was fine with it says everything you need to know.My guess is Marshall didn't want to risk any further injury and hurt his chances of getting a juicy new contract.
 
bryan215 said:
Mikey16x said:
The fact that Marshall didn't get a contract extension is a blessing in disguise for this guy. He still put up great numbers in a "meh" system and he can sign with a better team with better coaching next season for probably more money then the Broncos were going to offer. I'd love for my Giants to get him... Marshall/Nicks/Steve Smith... a boy can dream.
Marshall isn't a free agent after the seasonThe fact that Marshall didn't try to talk the coach out of benching him and was fine with it says everything you need to know.My guess is Marshall didn't want to risk any further injury and hurt his chances of getting a juicy new contract.
He's a restricted free agent this offseason.
 
He's a restricted free agent this offseason.
Dallas Cowboys are always good for trading away first-rounders for iffy WRs (Joey Galloway, Roy Williams).Dallas Cowboys have taken on a (likely) worse head case than Marshall in Terrell Owens.I can only dream of what Brandon Marshall and Miles Austin could do together, and I wouldn't blame Jerry for sending two first rounders for Marshall.One can dream.Okay, Brandon Marshall today. Ugh. Any chance he is un-benched? Is that even possible, within NFL rules, after coach has listed him as OUT?
 
He's a restricted free agent this offseason.
Dallas Cowboys are always good for trading away first-rounders for iffy WRs (Joey Galloway, Roy Williams).Dallas Cowboys have taken on a (likely) worse head case than Marshall in Terrell Owens.I can only dream of what Brandon Marshall and Miles Austin could do together, and I wouldn't blame Jerry for sending two first rounders for Marshall.One can dream.Okay, Brandon Marshall today. Ugh. Any chance he is un-benched? Is that even possible, within NFL rules, after coach has listed him as OUT?
McDaniels can play games in the media all he wants, but Marshall is HURT and couldn't be un-benched because he believes he can't play. That is the root of the whole situation. McDaniels thinks Marshall should have taken some radical steps to try to be able to play and Marshall did not believe he could play no matter what. Or so it seems from the pre-McDaniels-posturing reports.
 
He's a restricted free agent this offseason.
Dallas Cowboys are always good for trading away first-rounders for iffy WRs (Joey Galloway, Roy Williams).Dallas Cowboys have taken on a (likely) worse head case than Marshall in Terrell Owens.I can only dream of what Brandon Marshall and Miles Austin could do together, and I wouldn't blame Jerry for sending two first rounders for Marshall.One can dream.Okay, Brandon Marshall today. Ugh. Any chance he is un-benched? Is that even possible, within NFL rules, after coach has listed him as OUT?
Not to sidetrack, but I don't think Joey Galloway was an iffy WR at all. He had some major injury problems but when healthy he was very good.
 
Good to see Cowher, Sharpe, and the NFl network pile on McDummy and his lameass 'me, me, me, I'm the greatest coach ever' show.

 
bryan215 said:
Mikey16x said:
The fact that Marshall didn't get a contract extension is a blessing in disguise for this guy. He still put up great numbers in a "meh" system and he can sign with a better team with better coaching next season for probably more money then the Broncos were going to offer. I'd love for my Giants to get him... Marshall/Nicks/Steve Smith... a boy can dream.
Marshall isn't a free agent after the seasonThe fact that Marshall didn't try to talk the coach out of benching him and was fine with it says everything you need to know.

My guess is Marshall didn't want to risk any further injury and hurt his chances of getting a juicy new contract.
hes not????2009: $2.198 million, 2010: Free Agent

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that Brandon Marshall is "gone" if the Broncos are offered a first- and third-round pick for him this offseason.

Schefter adds that "It's possible, even likely" that Marshall has played his last down in a Denver uniform. Marshall is headed for restricted free agency in the offseason, but will still be in search of a big-time contract extension no matter whose roster he's on. With the unrestricted free agent market slated to be poorer than ever, however, the trade market could blow up. Marshall, 25, is definitely going to draw interest.

 
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Restricted free agency and Unrestricted free agency are two very different animals.

Restricted free agency is free agency in name only, and is now what folks are generally referring to when they say "free agency".

 
McDaniels is a total clown! I thought he handled it terribly in preseason but was bailed out when Marshall decided to play well and that helped mend the relationship some. So instead of building on that momentum McDaniels does this now, I really don't think he will be successful as a head coach unless he learns from his failures. He did not learn from his first handling of Marshall and now this is going to loom all offseason and get very ugly. I don't see Marshall staying in Denver and that is a shame for Denver because he is a talent. I don't own him in any of my keeper leagues so I don't have any bias in this situation
I thought the preseason was a total whack job by this guy with Cutler and Marshall, but in this situation, I heard on the radio this morning that the leaders of the team came to McD and told him to take a hard line with Marshall. When the captains of the O and the D say, "bench this chump," what do you expect McD to do? Honestly, it's probably the first rational thing the guy has done in terms of personnel all season IMO.
 
He's a restricted free agent this offseason.
Dallas Cowboys are always good for trading away first-rounders for iffy WRs (Joey Galloway, Roy Williams).Dallas Cowboys have taken on a (likely) worse head case than Marshall in Terrell Owens.I can only dream of what Brandon Marshall and Miles Austin could do together, and I wouldn't blame Jerry for sending two first rounders for Marshall.One can dream.Okay, Brandon Marshall today. Ugh. Any chance he is un-benched? Is that even possible, within NFL rules, after coach has listed him as OUT?
McDaniels can play games in the media all he wants, but Marshall is HURT and couldn't be un-benched because he believes he can't play. That is the root of the whole situation. McDaniels thinks Marshall should have taken some radical steps to try to be able to play and Marshall did not believe he could play no matter what. Or so it seems from the pre-McDaniels-posturing reports.
The Broncos sent Marshall for an MRI on his hamstring after he complained of the injury during Wednesday's practice. According to team sources, the test indicated that Marshall's hamstring was healthy.The latest showdown between the head coach and the Pro Bowl receiver actually began the week before when Marshall excused himself from practice, complaining the cold weather was making it difficult for him to breathe.Then, as the team reviewed tape of its loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, in which Marshall dropped several passes, McDaniels mentioned that certain plays had to be made. Marshall apparently felt he was being unfairly singled out for criticism.According to Broncos sources, the problems with Marshall and Scheffler came after team leaders including Brian Dawkins, Champ Bailey, Kyle Orton, D.J. Williams and Daniel Graham all met with McDaniels on Monday and encouraged him to take a hardline approach in preparing the team to finish the season against the Chiefs.
 
He's a restricted free agent this offseason.
Dallas Cowboys are always good for trading away first-rounders for iffy WRs (Joey Galloway, Roy Williams).Dallas Cowboys have taken on a (likely) worse head case than Marshall in Terrell Owens.

I can only dream of what Brandon Marshall and Miles Austin could do together, and I wouldn't blame Jerry for sending two first rounders for Marshall.

One can dream.

Okay, Brandon Marshall today. Ugh. Any chance he is un-benched?

Is that even possible, within NFL rules, after coach has listed him as OUT?
McDaniels can play games in the media all he wants, but Marshall is HURT and couldn't be un-benched because he believes he can't play. That is the root of the whole situation. McDaniels thinks Marshall should have taken some radical steps to try to be able to play and Marshall did not believe he could play no matter what. Or so it seems from the pre-McDaniels-posturing reports.
The Broncos sent Marshall for an MRI on his hamstring after he complained of the injury during Wednesday's practice. According to team sources, the test indicated that Marshall's hamstring was healthy.The latest showdown between the head coach and the Pro Bowl receiver actually began the week before when Marshall excused himself from practice, complaining the cold weather was making it difficult for him to breathe.

Then, as the team reviewed tape of its loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, in which Marshall dropped several passes, McDaniels mentioned that certain plays had to be made. Marshall apparently felt he was being unfairly singled out for criticism.

According to Broncos sources, the problems with Marshall and Scheffler came after team leaders including Brian Dawkins, Champ Bailey, Kyle Orton, D.J. Williams and Daniel Graham all met with McDaniels on Monday and encouraged him to take a hardline approach in preparing the team to finish the season against the Chiefs.
I need all the people in here who have ripped McD for benching Marshall, to address this. I think McD is an idiot but what was the man to do when these players came to him about BM?
 
According to Broncos sources, the problems with Marshall and Scheffler came after team leaders including Brian Dawkins, Champ Bailey, Kyle Orton, D.J. Williams and Daniel Graham all met with McDaniels on Monday and encouraged him to take a hardline approach in preparing the team to finish the season against the Chiefs.
Here's the problem with these guys- Dawkins: 40 yrs old, not the future of this team

- Orton: average QB, hopefully not the future of this team (at least as a starter)

- Graham: average TE, hopefully not the future of this team

so, is cutting ties with Marshall & Scheffler the right move ?? (after you already sent Cutler away....)

 
So all these guys came to McD and encouraged him to take a hardline approach to BM and that approach was to bench him for today's game? A game that he was going to sit out anyways? Didn't that just make things worse?

 
Players asking McDaniels to take a hardline approach != airing dirty laundry to the media. He's caused a distraction for the team since this was reported. If the players did indeed come to him and did indeed want those guys benched (which I'm still not sure I believe is the full and true story), then he could have done so much more discreetly and let the team go about their business without creating a media stir. Your team has a shot at the playoffs and as the HC you think creating controversy and distraction is a good thing to accomplish that goal? One of those cutting off your nose to spite your face type deals.

I don't have a problem with a coach taking a hardline approach with certain players. But, that doesn't give them rights to go about that any way they please. There were far better ways to handle this than the approach he took. Add this to the Cutler debacle and the earlier Marshall issues and it seems this is going to be par for the course with McDaniels.

 
Players asking McDaniels to take a hardline approach != airing dirty laundry to the media. He's caused a distraction for the team since this was reported. If the players did indeed come to him and did indeed want those guys benched (which I'm still not sure I believe is the full and true story), then he could have done so much more discreetly and let the team go about their business without creating a media stir. Your team has a shot at the playoffs and as the HC you think creating controversy and distraction is a good thing to accomplish that goal? One of those cutting off your nose to spite your face type deals. I don't have a problem with a coach taking a hardline approach with certain players. But, that doesn't give them rights to go about that any way they please. There were far better ways to handle this than the approach he took. Add this to the Cutler debacle and the earlier Marshall issues and it seems this is going to be par for the course with McDaniels.
I can agree with that. I don't know exactly how this was all leaked to the press as I just am not paying as close attention to football this week. But if these did indeed come to him and ask to have the guy benched then he did exactly what any coach should do...
 
According to Broncos sources, the problems with Marshall and Scheffler came after team leaders including Brian Dawkins, Champ Bailey, Kyle Orton, D.J. Williams and Daniel Graham all met with McDaniels on Monday and encouraged him to take a hardline approach in preparing the team to finish the season against the Chiefs.
Here's the problem with these guys- Dawkins: 40 yrs old, not the future of this team

- Orton: average QB, hopefully not the future of this team (at least as a starter)

- Graham: average TE, hopefully not the future of this team

so, is cutting ties with Marshall & Scheffler the right move ?? (after you already sent Cutler away....)
Scheffler is a moot point here. Not special really. As for the rest. So what if Dawkins is not the future of the team. It would seem the guy is a leader and should be listened to. Should they have asked the rookies what they think should've been done with BM?

Orton? He's average so he shouldn't be listened too? First, awefully good winning percentage for an average QB. Second, average or not he is the QB.

Graham, average so he shouldn't be listened to as a vet?

This is your criteria for who should be listened to? Did you also think that the guy who had the best view of the suspension of TO in Philly was TO from his driveway doing that little workout? He is incredibly talented, so he's gotta be the most credible source of information on how to run a team, right?

Seriously, where do you come up with this crap? Is it in your BM manlove handbook?

Since your criteria is, "who isn't the future of the team," you should not look at BM either as he is not the future in Denver as well.

 
So all these guys came to McD and encouraged him to take a hardline approach to BM and that approach was to bench him for today's game? A game that he was going to sit out anyways? Didn't that just make things worse?
Like I said, I didn't follow it all that closely, but was it determined that BM was attempting to sit out the game or just sit out practices prior to the game? I thought it was the latter...
 
I need all the people in here who have ripped McD for benching Marshall, to address this. I think McD is an idiot but what was the man to do when these players came to him about BM?
What's best for the team. Which in this case meant keeping Marshall available for the game (until it was proven he could not go). But it would have taken tact and a nutsack for McDaniels to do that.
 
Seriously, where do you come up with this crap? Is it in your BM manlove handbook? Since your criteria is, "who isn't the future of the team," you should not look at BM either as he is not the future in Denver as well.
ok, then enjoy next year with Orton, Gaffney & Graham on the field
 
He's a restricted free agent this offseason.
Dallas Cowboys are always good for trading away first-rounders for iffy WRs (Joey Galloway, Roy Williams).Dallas Cowboys have taken on a (likely) worse head case than Marshall in Terrell Owens.I can only dream of what Brandon Marshall and Miles Austin could do together, and I wouldn't blame Jerry for sending two first rounders for Marshall.One can dream.Okay, Brandon Marshall today. Ugh. Any chance he is un-benched? Is that even possible, within NFL rules, after coach has listed him as OUT?
McDaniels can play games in the media all he wants, but Marshall is HURT and couldn't be un-benched because he believes he can't play. That is the root of the whole situation. McDaniels thinks Marshall should have taken some radical steps to try to be able to play and Marshall did not believe he could play no matter what. Or so it seems from the pre-McDaniels-posturing reports.
The Broncos sent Marshall for an MRI on his hamstring after he complained of the injury during Wednesday's practice. According to team sources, the test indicated that Marshall's hamstring was healthy.The latest showdown between the head coach and the Pro Bowl receiver actually began the week before when Marshall excused himself from practice, complaining the cold weather was making it difficult for him to breathe.Then, as the team reviewed tape of its loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, in which Marshall dropped several passes, McDaniels mentioned that certain plays had to be made. Marshall apparently felt he was being unfairly singled out for criticism.According to Broncos sources, the problems with Marshall and Scheffler came after team leaders including Brian Dawkins, Champ Bailey, Kyle Orton, D.J. Williams and Daniel Graham all met with McDaniels on Monday and encouraged him to take a hardline approach in preparing the team to finish the season against the Chiefs.
Doctors NEVER make a mistake--and of course the team doctors would be 100% objective and neutral in this case.
 
McDaniels is a "Belichick disciple".

McDaniels benched Brandon Marshall just like Belichick benched Randy Moss recently for not running out pass patterns.

McDaniels' team made the playoffs, just like Belichick's.

 
McDaniels is a "Belichick disciple".

McDaniels benched Brandon Marshall just like Belichick benched Randy Moss recently for not running out pass patterns.

McDaniels' team made the playoffs, just like Belichick's.
you sure ???

 
Young 8 said:
TheFanatic said:
Seriously, where do you come up with this crap? Is it in your BM manlove handbook? Since your criteria is, "who isn't the future of the team," you should not look at BM either as he is not the future in Denver as well.
ok, then enjoy next year with Orton, Gaffney & Graham on the field
I don't give a squat who's on the team next year. I have no vested interest in the Broncos. It would seem you do. BM is gone, and he was gone the moment they were able to ship off cutler without batting an eye. The rest of the team is practicing to get ready for the Chiefs and this guy is faking an injury and the team called him on it to the coach and he put the team ahead of BM. Your team was going to be Marshall-less whether or not BM dressed in this game. But hey, if all you think the team will be is Orton, Gaffney, and Graham then I guess you and BM have about the same understanding of what a "team" is.And I don't get all the Orton bashing. Are you one of those guys that would like Cutler's extra 300 yards and 7 more TD's but conveniently disregard the 26 picks and the worse record. Seriously, you sound like a guy with a Denver Cutler Jersey that is still pissed about the trade to Chicago and are going to rip Denver, the coach and Denver management no matter what they do even though it seemed the Cutler trade worked out better for the team but sort of wasted the cash you spent on your jersey. Priorities...
 
Young 8 said:
TheFanatic said:
Seriously, where do you come up with this crap? Is it in your BM manlove handbook? Since your criteria is, "who isn't the future of the team," you should not look at BM either as he is not the future in Denver as well.
ok, then enjoy next year with Orton, Gaffney & Graham on the field
I don't give a squat who's on the team next year. I have no vested interest in the Broncos. It would seem you do. BM is gone, and he was gone the moment they were able to ship off cutler without batting an eye. The rest of the team is practicing to get ready for the Chiefs and this guy is faking an injury and the team called him on it to the coach and he put the team ahead of BM. Your team was going to be Marshall-less whether or not BM dressed in this game. But hey, if all you think the team will be is Orton, Gaffney, and Graham then I guess you and BM have about the same understanding of what a "team" is.And I don't get all the Orton bashing. Are you one of those guys that would like Cutler's extra 300 yards and 7 more TD's but conveniently disregard the 26 picks and the worse record. Seriously, you sound like a guy with a Denver Cutler Jersey that is still pissed about the trade to Chicago and are going to rip Denver, the coach and Denver management no matter what they do even though it seemed the Cutler trade worked out better for the team but sort of wasted the cash you spent on your jersey. Priorities...
no, i'm just a Marshall owner and I'll be happy if he leaves SmugDaniels & Denverand yes.....Cutler is far more talented than Kyle "game manager" Ortonand yes.....Smug, Orton, Graham & Dawkins got OWNED today.....by Kansas
 
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And I don't get all the Orton bashing. Are you one of those guys that would like Cutler's extra 300 yards and 7 more TD's but conveniently disregard the 26 picks and the worse record.
Uh, I think you are conveniently disregarding the fact that Orton had an IMMENSELY better supporting cast than Cutler has this year. The Broncos are much stronger than the Bears at literally every offensive position... except QB. That may or may not impact your comparison of their performances this year...
 
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Young 8 said:
TheFanatic said:
Seriously, where do you come up with this crap? Is it in your BM manlove handbook?

Since your criteria is, "who isn't the future of the team," you should not look at BM either as he is not the future in Denver as well.
ok, then enjoy next year with Orton, Gaffney & Graham on the field
I don't give a squat who's on the team next year. I have no vested interest in the Broncos. It would seem you do. BM is gone, and he was gone the moment they were able to ship off cutler without batting an eye. The rest of the team is practicing to get ready for the Chiefs and this guy is faking an injury and the team called him on it to the coach and he put the team ahead of BM. Your team was going to be Marshall-less whether or not BM dressed in this game. But hey, if all you think the team will be is Orton, Gaffney, and Graham then I guess you and BM have about the same understanding of what a "team" is.

And I don't get all the Orton bashing. Are you one of those guys that would like Cutler's extra 300 yards and 7 more TD's but conveniently disregard the 26 picks and the worse record. Seriously, you sound like a guy with a Denver Cutler Jersey that is still pissed about the trade to Chicago and are going to rip Denver, the coach and Denver management no matter what they do even though it seemed the Cutler trade worked out better for the team but sort of wasted the cash you spent on your jersey. Priorities...
no, i'm just a Marshall owner and I'll be happy if he leaves SmugDaniels & Denverand yes.....Cutler is far more talented than Kyle "game manager" Orton

and yes.....Smug, Orton, Graham & Dawkins got OWNED today.....by Kansas
Ah Hem, that's Kansas City. Let's not confuse the kids.
 
BusterTBronco said:
The timeline needs to be clarified here. This meeting between McDaniels and the so-called team leaders took place on MONDAY. Marshall's hamstring injury occured in practice on WEDNESDAY.So, were the team leaders asking McDaniels to bench Marshall and Scheffler when they met with him on Monday? I highly doubt it. This is just SPIN from the Broncos trying to make McDaniels look like a little bit less of a fool than he actually is.
:lmao: I am amazed that some are trying to connect the dots on that one, but some are just determined to defend McDaniels and his foolishness to death, I guess. I wonder how those "team leaders" enjoyed losing by 20 points at home to a 3-12 team today. :lmao: :lmao:
 
BusterTBronco said:
The timeline needs to be clarified here. This meeting between McDaniels and the so-called team leaders took place on MONDAY. Marshall's hamstring injury occured in practice on WEDNESDAY.So, were the team leaders asking McDaniels to bench Marshall and Scheffler when they met with him on Monday? I highly doubt it. This is just SPIN from the Broncos trying to make McDaniels look like a little bit less of a fool than he actually is.
You should know better than to bring logic into the Shark Pool :lol:
 
And I don't get all the Orton bashing. Are you one of those guys that would like Cutler's extra 300 yards and 7 more TD's but conveniently disregard the 26 picks and the worse record.
Uh, I think you are conveniently disregarding the fact that Orton had an IMMENSELY better supporting cast than Cutler has this year. The Broncos are much stronger than the Bears at literally every offensive position... except QB. That may or may not impact your comparison of their performances this year...
Bears are superior at TE as well IMO, and RB is pretty close. But obviously the WRs are no comparison.
 
BusterTBronco said:
So, were the team leaders asking McDaniels to bench Marshall and Scheffler when they met with him on Monday? I highly doubt it. This is just SPIN from the Broncos trying to make McDaniels look like a little bit less of a fool than he actually is.
Exactly my thoughts. McDaniels may not know how to deal well with players, but he's got a good spin machine to help him in his catfights.
 
Late to the party, just wanted to chime in with McDaniels being an buffoon. Any chance he could be gone for this and other stuff?

 
Scheffler should have been cut weeks ago.

Marshall is not worth the hassle. He is very talented, though his numbers have been inflated due to the system, but he has a massive TO complex without TO's work ethic.

Trade him and be rid of the constant headache. It is also likely that Marshall will get dinged and suspended again.

 
And I don't get all the Orton bashing. Are you one of those guys that would like Cutler's extra 300 yards and 7 more TD's but conveniently disregard the 26 picks and the worse record.
Uh, I think you are conveniently disregarding the fact that Orton had an IMMENSELY better supporting cast than Cutler has this year. The Broncos are much stronger than the Bears at literally every offensive position... except QB. That may or may not impact your comparison of their performances this year...
Bears are superior at TE as well IMO, and RB is pretty close. But obviously the WRs are no comparison.
I think Bears fans might disagree. For an athletic pass-catching TE, Olsen is strikingly unathletic and prone to drops. Sheffler might be better.
 
BusterTBronco said:
I have been trying to connect the dots and finally have what I believe is a plausible scenario of what happened here.Sunday - Broncos lose to the Eagles 27-30. McDaniels is livid that his offense could not get a first down in the final minutes to seal the win.Monday - McDaniels meets with "team leaders" who give him the green light to hold underperforming players accountable. McDaniels lays into the offensive line for their soft play as of late and demotes Scheffler to the scout team.Tuesday - Brandon Marshall is upset with the Scheffler demotion. He let's slip that he might "pull a hammy" this week.Wednesday - Marshall pulls a hammyThursday - McD accounces that Marshall will be inactive for final game for disciplinary reasons.Saturday - Team announces the same for SchefflerPlausible?
Do we have evidence that Marshall was upset with the Scheffler decision or that he is such close friends with Scheffler that he would protest in this way? It all sounds very unprobable to me. More probable is that McFail is a buffoon who didn't handle team discipline in a private way and who is trying to look for scapegoats for a failed season. Ultimately, he is responsibible for a team that has collapsed in a historic way. He won't be fired yet because that would suggest that ownership made a mistake in getting rid of Shanny and bringing this bozo in, but I predict he will be fired after next season.
 
BusterTBronco said:
I have been trying to connect the dots and finally have what I believe is a plausible scenario of what happened here.Sunday - Broncos lose to the Eagles 27-30. McDaniels is livid that his offense could not get a first down in the final minutes to seal the win.Monday - McDaniels meets with "team leaders" who give him the green light to hold underperforming players accountable. McDaniels lays into the offensive line for their soft play as of late and demotes Scheffler to the scout team.Tuesday - Brandon Marshall is upset with the Scheffler demotion. He let's slip that he might "pull a hammy" this week.Wednesday - Marshall pulls a hammyThursday - McD accounces that Marshall will be inactive for final game for disciplinary reasons.Saturday - Team announces the same for SchefflerPlausible?
who knows, but if that's the case he really taught them a lesson. Have a nice off season McD.
 
BusterTBronco said:
I'm just speculating. Seems like Marshall, Scheffler, and Cutler were tight.
I think they were. They were all drafted the same year and touted as the future of the Broncos....now they will probably all be playing for different teams. What a mess.
 
bryan215 said:
Marshall is not worth the hassle. He is very talented, though his numbers have been inflated due to the system
Eh? I am pretty sure that McDaniels is not running the same system that Shanahan did, and Marshall flourished greatly in both, so no offense, but your statement doesn't make a lot of sense.
 
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