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Brandon Marshall Thread (2 Viewers)
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The Man with the Plan
Footballguy
Now it's time to trade for him.
Young 8
Footballguy
Young 8
Footballguy
read this
“I’ve done things like that, too. It may seem silly to the public, but I have been in that situation, too. I’m accident-prone and I can tell you similar stories. “ — TE Tony Scheffler 3/24/08
lol
Crazy Broncos
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
So "EEEEEE" now becomes
"OWWWWW-EEEEEEEEEEE"?
"OWWWWW-EEEEEEEEEEE"?
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read this
“I’ve done things like that, too. It may seem silly to the public, but I have been in that situation, too. I’m accident-prone and I can tell you similar stories. “ — TE Tony Scheffler 3/24/08
lol
Crazy Broncos
and then there was griese too...
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Dude should not have adopted Brian Griese's dog.
Seriously this guy is an accident looking for a place to happen. Immense talent, functional idiot. I will be amazed if he matures before he throws it all away.
Seriously this guy is an accident looking for a place to happen. Immense talent, functional idiot. I will be amazed if he matures before he throws it all away.
BigJim®
Footballguy
Suffering nerve damage to the portion of your body that catches footballs is not a disabling type of injury? I'm not saying it definitely is, without knowing more, but it is a bit overboard to proclaim it is not.
phillyphan07
Footballguy
I have him in dynasty and let me tell you... the terrible trade offers are rolling in...The Man with the Plan said:
duece2626
Footballguy
and this is why it is a story.....no one knows if it will effect that.
az_prof
Footballguy
Do we have any evidence that he suffered "nerve damage"? This is speculation designed to get a Marshall owner to sell from fear. It's March and there isn't much to report so we get these kinds of stories. If it is June and he isn't able to practice THEN I'll worry.
Prodigal19
Footballguy
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3312027Marshall "sustained right forearm lacerations to one artery, one vein, one nerve, two tendons and three muscles."
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Also, the nerve was not repaired. So either loss of sensation, loss of some motor function, or both. Out 3-4 months depending what you read.
BigJim®
Footballguy
Yeah, ESPN, PFT, USA Today, NFL Network and the various Denver news outlets are all out to get Brandon Marshall's FF owners.
thehornet
Footballguy
a lot of drama queens around here. he had a few stitches and the cut hit a vein and a nerve. i dont see this as being the same as long term nerve damage that will hurt his catch ability. i own him and wouldnt trade him for almost any other wide out after this event. just like before.
BigJim®
Footballguy
Young 8
Footballguy
"I understand I've had my problems, but from what people are saying, they're trying to twist this thing around to make me sound like some kind of bad guy," Marshall said. "I don't care what anyone says. I'm telling you what happened."
"We woke up early in the morning, probably 7 o'clock, to go jet skiing," Marshall said. "There were probably 10 of us, maybe more. We got to horseplaying and I slipped on a McDonald's bag. I went hand-first into an entertainment system and, in trying to bridge myself, I went through the TV."
"It seems like I'm a bad guy for injuring my arm," he said. "We'll laugh about it later. I've set goals and my goals are high. I'm determined to reach those goals, and I will not be satisfied with anything else."
"We woke up early in the morning, probably 7 o'clock, to go jet skiing," Marshall said. "There were probably 10 of us, maybe more. We got to horseplaying and I slipped on a McDonald's bag. I went hand-first into an entertainment system and, in trying to bridge myself, I went through the TV."
"It seems like I'm a bad guy for injuring my arm," he said. "We'll laugh about it later. I've set goals and my goals are high. I'm determined to reach those goals, and I will not be satisfied with anything else."
Young 8
Footballguy
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ArDa...p&type=lgns
Pro Bowl cornerback Champ Bailey said Tuesday he will step up to mentor beleaguered wide receiver Brandon Marshall in the aftermath of a freak accident that will keep Marshall from working out for four months.
Veteran Rod Smith mentored Marshall in his first two seasons, but Smith is on the injured retirement list. Bailey said he’s willing to assume the role of big brother for Marshall, a third-year pro who caught 102 passes for 1,325 yards and seven touchdowns last year.
“I’m not really worried about him,” Bailey said. “I’ll keep my eye on him.”
Pro Bowl cornerback Champ Bailey said Tuesday he will step up to mentor beleaguered wide receiver Brandon Marshall in the aftermath of a freak accident that will keep Marshall from working out for four months.
Veteran Rod Smith mentored Marshall in his first two seasons, but Smith is on the injured retirement list. Bailey said he’s willing to assume the role of big brother for Marshall, a third-year pro who caught 102 passes for 1,325 yards and seven touchdowns last year.
“I’m not really worried about him,” Bailey said. “I’ll keep my eye on him.”
Any decent offers rolling in? I wanted to get him in one of my leagues but the owners demands made him essentially untradeable. Now I'm thinking the owner might actually consider trading him for something other than my 1st born.
az_prof
Footballguy
If you think this is going to keep Marshall off the field or hinder his ability you are dreaming.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
How do you know it won't? Don't WRs need their arms to catch? 3-4 month recovery time. May come back just fine, but you never know. Please don't pretend to know all the answers right now. You don't know, and no one does... If he makes it back for camp in July and shows no ill effects, fine. But the injury could be significant and may take more time etc. Again, don't pretend to know the answer when it's clearly up in the air.If you think this is going to keep Marshall off the field or hinder his ability you are dreaming.
Young 8
Footballguy
Brandon Marshall, who has been plagued by off-the-field issues since entering the NFL, has declared that it's time for him to "grow up."
"From here on out, it's Brandon Marshall, clean-cut guy. Just trying to get my life together as far as accidents and DUIs," Marshall said. Marshall did explain that his arm injury was caused by trying to avoid a McDonald's bag while wresting his brother, clearing up that confusion. "It was just 'horseplaying,' what brothers do," Marshall said. And thus, we have the second NFL mishap caused by Rotoworld's 2008 Most Popular Fantasy Team Name: "consensual horseplay."
"From here on out, it's Brandon Marshall, clean-cut guy. Just trying to get my life together as far as accidents and DUIs," Marshall said. Marshall did explain that his arm injury was caused by trying to avoid a McDonald's bag while wresting his brother, clearing up that confusion. "It was just 'horseplaying,' what brothers do," Marshall said. And thus, we have the second NFL mishap caused by Rotoworld's 2008 Most Popular Fantasy Team Name: "consensual horseplay."
RC94
Footballguy
How do you know it won't? Don't WRs need their arms to catch? 3-4 month recovery time. May come back just fine, but you never know. Please don't pretend to know all the answers right now. You don't know, and no one does... If he makes it back for camp in July and shows no ill effects, fine. But the injury could be significant and may take more time etc. Again, don't pretend to know the answer when it's clearly up in the air.
thehornet
Footballguy
c'mon guys, be serious. Major league pitchers come back from tommy john surgery and throw 100 balls- 90+ MPH 30 times a year. You can't look at me with a straight face and say that a cut that required a few stitches is going to keep a 24 year old from performing because he might have long term nerve damage. it's comical. let's not always think worst case scenario!!!How do you know it won't? Don't WRs need their arms to catch? 3-4 month recovery time. May come back just fine, but you never know. Please don't pretend to know all the answers right now. You don't know, and no one does... If he makes it back for camp in July and shows no ill effects, fine. But the injury could be significant and may take more time etc. Again, don't pretend to know the answer when it's clearly up in the air.If you think this is going to keep Marshall off the field or hinder his ability you are dreaming.
RC94
Footballguy
Did you even read the report???c'mon guys, be serious. Major league pitchers come back from tommy john surgery and throw 100 balls- 90+ MPH 30 times a year. You can't look at me with a straight face and say that a cut that required a few stitches is going to keep a 24 year old from performing because he might have long term nerve damage. it's comical. let's not always think worst case scenario!!!How do you know it won't? Don't WRs need their arms to catch? 3-4 month recovery time. May come back just fine, but you never know. Please don't pretend to know all the answers right now. You don't know, and no one does... If he makes it back for camp in July and shows no ill effects, fine. But the injury could be significant and may take more time etc. Again, don't pretend to know the answer when it's clearly up in the air.
az_prof
Footballguy
c'mon guys, be serious. Major league pitchers come back from tommy john surgery and throw 100 balls- 90+ MPH 30 times a year. You can't look at me with a straight face and say that a cut that required a few stitches is going to keep a 24 year old from performing because he might have long term nerve damage. it's comical. let's not always think worst case scenario!!!How do you know it won't? Don't WRs need their arms to catch? 3-4 month recovery time. May come back just fine, but you never know. Please don't pretend to know all the answers right now. You don't know, and no one does... If he makes it back for camp in July and shows no ill effects, fine. But the injury could be significant and may take more time etc. Again, don't pretend to know the answer when it's clearly up in the air.
Thank you. We have a bunch of guys on here who want to dissect everything and read way too much into little things. It would be better if he were participating in OTAs, but then again, he could get hurt in them and it isn't bad to give the body rest IMO. I have never heard of an NFL player missing a year of PT or going from being a stud to an also-ran because of an injury like this. That's why I think it is ridiculous. It is not something that will affect him beyond the injury.
RC94
Footballguy
c'mon guys, be serious. Major league pitchers come back from tommy john surgery and throw 100 balls- 90+ MPH 30 times a year. You can't look at me with a straight face and say that a cut that required a few stitches is going to keep a 24 year old from performing because he might have long term nerve damage. it's comical. let's not always think worst case scenario!!!How do you know it won't? Don't WRs need their arms to catch? 3-4 month recovery time. May come back just fine, but you never know. Please don't pretend to know all the answers right now. You don't know, and no one does... If he makes it back for camp in July and shows no ill effects, fine. But the injury could be significant and may take more time etc. Again, don't pretend to know the answer when it's clearly up in the air.
Did you even read Ketamine's post??? It's amazing how people respond to things on this board either without reading or without understanding the post they are responding to. All we are saying is that you don't know what the long term affect is going to be. It's completely comical to simply dismiss "lacerations to one artery, one vein, one nerve, two tendons and three muscles" that will take 3-4 months to recover from as "a cut that required a few stiches." Stop playing message board doctor when you don't know what you are talking about have not not examined the patient.
az_prof
Footballguy
With all due respect: Are YOU a doctor? Are you Marshall's doctor? Did you observe the surgery? Why is it ok for you and Ketamine to play doctor and pretend that this is some serious disabling injury when there isn't one example that I am aware of where a similar injury has turned around a player's career?RC94 said:az_prof said:
thehornet said:c'mon guys, be serious. Major league pitchers come back from tommy john surgery and throw 100 balls- 90+ MPH 30 times a year. You can't look at me with a straight face and say that a cut that required a few stitches is going to keep a 24 year old from performing because he might have long term nerve damage. it's comical. let's not always think worst case scenario!!!How do you know it won't? Don't WRs need their arms to catch? 3-4 month recovery time. May come back just fine, but you never know. Please don't pretend to know all the answers right now. You don't know, and no one does... If he makes it back for camp in July and shows no ill effects, fine. But the injury could be significant and may take more time etc. Again, don't pretend to know the answer when it's clearly up in the air.
gianmarco
Footballguy
No offense, but you just made some stuff up. They aren't pretending to e a doctor nor are they saying it's a serious disabling injury. They are saying it COULD be. There's a difference between saying:1. Too early to tell2. He'll be fine3. He'll be permanently disabled.You are claming #2. They were claiming #1. You just accused them of #3. I'd reread their posts if you don't see the difference. They are NOT playing doctor by saying it's too early to tell.With all due respect: Are YOU a doctor? Are you Marshall's doctor? Did you observe the surgery? Why is it ok for you and Ketamine to play doctor and pretend that this is some serious disabling injury when there isn't one example that I am aware of where a similar injury has turned around a player's career?RC94 said:az_prof said:
thehornet said:c'mon guys, be serious. Major league pitchers come back from tommy john surgery and throw 100 balls- 90+ MPH 30 times a year. You can't look at me with a straight face and say that a cut that required a few stitches is going to keep a 24 year old from performing because he might have long term nerve damage. it's comical. let's not always think worst case scenario!!!How do you know it won't? Don't WRs need their arms to catch? 3-4 month recovery time. May come back just fine, but you never know. Please don't pretend to know all the answers right now. You don't know, and no one does... If he makes it back for camp in July and shows no ill effects, fine. But the injury could be significant and may take more time etc. Again, don't pretend to know the answer when it's clearly up in the air.
LBH
Footballguy
Im taking a wait and see approach to Marshall. I dont think this is going to be a big deal or impact his ability as a reciever, but right now, Im not 100% positive it isnt eitherWith all due respect: Are YOU a doctor? Are you Marshall's doctor? Did you observe the surgery? Why is it ok for you and Ketamine to play doctor and pretend that this is some serious disabling injury when there isn't one example that I am aware of where a similar injury has turned around a player's career?RC94 said:az_prof said:
thehornet said:c'mon guys, be serious. Major league pitchers come back from tommy john surgery and throw 100 balls- 90+ MPH 30 times a year. You can't look at me with a straight face and say that a cut that required a few stitches is going to keep a 24 year old from performing because he might have long term nerve damage. it's comical. let's not always think worst case scenario!!!How do you know it won't? Don't WRs need their arms to catch? 3-4 month recovery time. May come back just fine, but you never know. Please don't pretend to know all the answers right now. You don't know, and no one does... If he makes it back for camp in July and shows no ill effects, fine. But the injury could be significant and may take more time etc. Again, don't pretend to know the answer when it's clearly up in the air.
BigJim®
Footballguy
With all due respect, you are over the top defensive that this is 100% not a problem. I don't see anybody claiming it is 100% certainly a problem. Tommy John surgery is a poor analogy. The only thing Marshall's injury has in common with Tommy John surgery is they both involve the human body. That procedure is the replacement of a tendon, and does not involve nerves to my knowledge. On nerves, do you understand their functions? I'm no doctor, but my brother sliced a nerve putting a fishing knife through the base of a a finger when he was 14, and joints on that finger have never again bent when he clenches a fist. It doesn't hurt, but in fact he had to discontinue playing the guitar without muscle control in that finger. But bottom line here, a person can spend 10 minutes googling "lacerated nerve" and understand the possible consequences. So please, quit acting like there are never any.
Floyd The Barber
Footballguy
But will Marshall still be able to catch with a claw?
jurb26
Footballguy
No offense, but you just made some stuff up. They aren't pretending to e a doctor nor are they saying it's a serious disabling injury. They are saying it COULD be. There's a difference between saying:1. Too early to tell2. He'll be fine3. He'll be permanently disabled.You are claming #2. They were claiming #1. You just accused them of #3. I'd reread their posts if you don't see the difference. They are NOT playing doctor by saying it's too early to tell.With all due respect: Are YOU a doctor? Are you Marshall's doctor? Did you observe the surgery? Why is it ok for you and Ketamine to play doctor and pretend that this is some serious disabling injury when there isn't one example that I am aware of where a similar injury has turned around a player's career?RC94 said:az_prof said:
thehornet said:c'mon guys, be serious. Major league pitchers come back from tommy john surgery and throw 100 balls- 90+ MPH 30 times a year. You can't look at me with a straight face and say that a cut that required a few stitches is going to keep a 24 year old from performing because he might have long term nerve damage. it's comical. let's not always think worst case scenario!!!How do you know it won't? Don't WRs need their arms to catch? 3-4 month recovery time. May come back just fine, but you never know. Please don't pretend to know all the answers right now. You don't know, and no one does... If he makes it back for camp in July and shows no ill effects, fine. But the injury could be significant and may take more time etc. Again, don't pretend to know the answer when it's clearly up in the air.If you think this is going to keep Marshall off the field or hinder his ability you are dreaming.
Thank you. We have a bunch of guys on here who want to dissect everything and read way too much into little things. It would be better if he were participating in OTAs, but then again, he could get hurt in them and it isn't bad to give the body rest IMO. I have never heard of an NFL player missing a year of PT or going from being a stud to an also-ran because of an injury like this. That's why I think it is ridiculous. It is not something that will affect him beyond the injury.
Did you even read Ketamine's post??? It's amazing how people respond to things on this board either without reading or without understanding the post they are responding to. All we are saying is that you don't know what the long term affect is going to be. It's completely comical to simply dismiss "lacerations to one artery, one vein, one nerve, two tendons and three muscles" that will take 3-4 months to recover from as "a cut that required a few stiches." Stop playing message board doctor when you don't know what you are talking about have not not examined the patient.
Ksquared
Footballguy
The only thing I think needs to be added, is a simple cut on the arm that requires a few stitches should not hold someone out for 3-4 months. I think that is the reason many are taking a cautious approach on this. It may end up being nothing, but 3-4 months is a long recovery time.
Young 8
Footballguy
Marshall ahead of schedule
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_9312426?source=rss
Shanahan said Marshall should be cleared to start catching passes on June 22, when the team is on break.
Denver Broncos
That means if there's no setback to Marshall's injury — which included lacerations to tendons, nerves, a vein, artery and muscles after his arm punctured an entertainment system — he should participate in the Broncos' final minicamp, July 7-8, and be ready for the start of training camp on July 25.
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_9312426?source=rss
Shanahan said Marshall should be cleared to start catching passes on June 22, when the team is on break.
Denver Broncos
That means if there's no setback to Marshall's injury — which included lacerations to tendons, nerves, a vein, artery and muscles after his arm punctured an entertainment system — he should participate in the Broncos' final minicamp, July 7-8, and be ready for the start of training camp on July 25.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Scary good. "Baby TO" is right on. I don't believe people realize just how good Marshall was in only his 2nd season. I believe he'll be the #1 ranked WR in dynasty leagues next offseason (the difference between him & Fitz is Marshall's superior run-after-catch ability). Assuming his arm is ok, of course.
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I came in here to say the same thing. Buy now from scared owners.
cstu
Footballguy
His injury is no joke and the worst case is that it could ruin his career if it affects his catching ability. That doesn't seem like it's going to be the case (at least no one is talking about it publicly) but it has to make Marshall owners nervous.
BigJim®
Footballguy
Ok, I'll be the one who says it: He "should" be cleared 4 weeks from now to begin practicing 6 weeks from now? That seems like pure speculation which is not really even an injury update.
