Brandon Marshall Thread (1 Viewer)

[Nigel Tufnel]

I'm on board.

 

[Banger]

I'm very surprised the Marshall is currently ranked 10th in the dynasty rankings despite finishing 9th in scoring last year (while only scoring 7 tds) as a 2nd year player and obvious focal point in the offense. They cut his potentially biggest competition for redzone receptions and their putrid redzone production will certainly increase this year. If you watch the kid play and watch what he does after the catch (and he had over 100 of them) I don't know how you can't love this kids future.

 

[Two Deep]

Won't his arm and hand muscles atrophy from lack of use putting him that much further out on recovery once he gets the ok to use it?

 

[Q-Bert]

The key thing to note from the bump is that when the injury originally occured the plan was that he wouldn't be ready to participate in practice until training camp. He has instead already participated (even though it was just running routes) in an OTA and is expected to participate fully (including catching passes) by the end of next month. That is more than a full month ahead of schedule. This is very good news.

 

[BigJim®]

The key thing to note from the bump is that when the injury originally occured the plan was that he wouldn't be ready to participate in practice until training camp. He has instead already participated (even though it was just running routes) in an OTA and is expected to participate fully (including catching passes) by the end of next month. That is more than a full month ahead of schedule. This is very good news.

I like Brandon Marshall, but you're making something out of non-news news. There wasn't an iota of fact in that blurb. "Expected to" weeks out from an occurence means didly IMHO. It's like me saying I expect my flight to Chicago next month to be on time, and then using that prediction to proclaim that airlines are doing much better than normal. I don't see what his running routes has to do with anything. Were his legs injured in any way? My stance is the same as it was 2 months ago: We'll see when we see.

 

[Verbal Kint]

If there were nerve damage, wouldn't the doctors know it by now? I mean, if my doctor said "We can't tell if there's nerve damage. Here, try to catch this football", I'd be suing for malpractice.

 

[cstu]

I'm very surprised the Marshall is currently ranked 10th in the dynasty rankings despite finishing 9th in scoring last year (while only scoring 7 tds) as a 2nd year player and obvious focal point in the offense. They cut his potentially biggest competition for redzone receptions and their putrid redzone production will certainly increase this year. If you watch the kid play and watch what he does after the catch (and he had over 100 of them) I don't know how you can't love this kids future.

If it wasn't for the injury he'd be borderline top 5 dynasty.

 

[Young 8]

from Rotoworld



Brandon Marshall made his first catch this week since gashing his right forearm on March 22.

It was a one-handed grab with his left hand, so it doesn't really count. Marshall is apparently still on schedule to be medically cleared June 22. He's already able to write with his right hand, which is very promising.

 

[cstu]

from Rotoworld



Brandon Marshall made his first catch this week since gashing his right forearm on March 22.

It was a one-handed grab with his left hand, so it doesn't really count. Marshall is apparently still on schedule to be medically cleared June 22. He's already able to write with his right hand, which is very promising.

Especially since he's left-handed!j/k

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I'm very surprised the Marshall is currently ranked 10th in the dynasty rankings despite finishing 9th in scoring last year (while only scoring 7 tds) as a 2nd year player and obvious focal point in the offense. They cut his potentially biggest competition for redzone receptions and their putrid redzone production will certainly increase this year. If you watch the kid play and watch what he does after the catch (and he had over 100 of them) I don't know how you can't love this kids future.

If it wasn't for the injury he'd be borderline top 5 dynasty.

Once we see that his right hand isn't a Darius Watts-esque claw (fingers crossed), he'll be right around Marques Colston's level in my rankings.

 

[Banger]

I'm very surprised the Marshall is currently ranked 10th in the dynasty rankings despite finishing 9th in scoring last year (while only scoring 7 tds) as a 2nd year player and obvious focal point in the offense. They cut his potentially biggest competition for redzone receptions and their putrid redzone production will certainly increase this year. If you watch the kid play and watch what he does after the catch (and he had over 100 of them) I don't know how you can't love this kids future.

If it wasn't for the injury he'd be borderline top 5 dynasty.

Once we see that his right hand isn't a Darius Watts-esque claw (fingers crossed), he'll be right around Marques Colston's level in my rankings.

Agree totally, I see them as very comparable players stat wise going forward. Both get a bunch of targets, both are the #1 receiving options on their teams and both have good QB's.

 

[Verbal Kint]

Isn't he still on trial for his DUI charge. I'm more concerned about a possible suspension that the injury. And I forgot he was involved in the whole Williams shooting thing until the Javon Walker news came out.

 

[mozzy84]

Isn't he still on trial for his DUI charge. I'm more concerned about a possible suspension that the injury. And I forgot he was involved in the whole Williams shooting thing until the Javon Walker news came out.

Jun 18 2008 01:00PMThe Denver Post reports Denver Broncos WR Brandon Marshall's trial for driving under the influence has been postponed to Sept. 16. The trial was originally scheduled for Wednesday, June 18.Source: KFFL.com

 

[BigJim®]

There is a type of NFL player I simply won't draft to be on my FF team, and Marshall is falling into that class. You can have him.

ATLANTA — Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall was arrested here March 6 on a misdemeanor battery charge, his third arrest in 12 months and second involving a domestic dispute.

Marshall could be suspended by the NFL under its Personal Conduct Policy because of multiple arrests and alleged incidents. He also was charged with driving under the influence in October 2007 and is set to go to trial in September on that charge. A previous domestic-violence charge, from an arrest in March 2007, has been dismissed.

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello confirmed the league is looking into Marshall's latest arrest but had no further comment Tuesday.

Marshall emerged as the Broncos' No. 1 wide receiver last fall, but his on-field success continues to be overshadowed by his off-field drama, which, court and police records in three states (Colorado, Georgia and Florida) show, includes a history of domestic disputes with his longtime girlfriend, Rasheedah Watley. Marshall owns homes in Atlanta and Denver, where he has played since 2006, and went to high school and college in the Orlando, Fla., area.

Watley, 24, filed an affidavit in Fulton County Magistrate Court on March 5 claiming that a day earlier Marshall hit her in the mouth and left eye, leaving her with, according to the criminal warrant, "visible marks above the eye and a laceration on her top and bottom lip."

Marshall, who was in Atlanta training with Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler and tight end Tony Scheffler at the time, was booked into the Fulton County Jail on March 6. He was released after posting a $1,000 cash bond and appearing before a judge March 7.

Just more than two weeks later, on March 22, Marshall seriously injured his right forearm — cutting an artery, tendons and muscles and damaging a nerve — when, he said, he put his arm through an entertainment center while roughhousing with his brother in Orlando.

NFL's stronger conduct policy

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, who instituted a stronger conduct policy last year, has previously disciplined players such as Adam "Pacman" Jones, Chris Henry, Tank Johnson and former Broncos safety Sam Brandon, each with multiple arrests, regardless of convictions in court.

Marshall's attorney, Harvey Steinberg, on Tuesday was hopeful that wouldn't be the case for Marshall, who had a breakout year in 2007, with 102 catches and seven touchdowns.

"Given the fact the NFL has known about it and I'm assuming has conducted its own investigation — we sent them a tremendous amount of information about this situation — that if something would have happened, I assumed it would have already happened," Steinberg said.

Marshall's case was turned over to the Fulton County Solicitor General's Office on June 4. The solicitor general will investigate and decide whether to file formal battery charges.

"We view this situation as a shakedown, nothing more nothing less," Steinberg said.

A Broncos spokesman said in a statement Tuesday that they and the NFL were aware of Marshall's March arrest.

"No charges have been filed at this point and the situation is being dealt with by the appropriate individuals," the statement said.

Watley's attorneys, David McGill of Miami and Mark Issa of Atlanta, declined to comment Tuesday beyond confirming that Watley is pursuing charges against Marshall.

Records show Watley has accused Marshall of similar incidents in which charges never were filed.

Didn't want to file charges

On June 17, 2006, about two months after Marshall was drafted by the Broncos, Watley called the Orange County Sheriff's Office in Orlando, reporting that Marshall had slapped her, pushed her and thrown a phone or remote control at her head. Watley, who returned to Atlanta before calling authorities, told police in her initial complaint that she did not want to file charges.

On March 21, 2007, the pair was questioned by police in Boca Raton, Fla., after deputies responded to two loud arguments, one outside a restaurant and another outside a residence. Both Watley and Marshall told deputies that the fight was about marriage and wasn't violent. No one was arrested.

Marshall was taken to jail, however, five days later in Highlands Ranch on charges of domestic violence and false imprisonment. Watley told police that Marshall tried to prevent her from leaving in a taxi by blocking the vehicle with another car, then pounding on the taxi's windows. Those charges were dropped two months later.

Charges were not filed in Orlando two months before that, as well, after an argument between Marshall and his father, Frederick. Orange County deputies interviewed Marshall and his father on Jan. 24, 2007, after the two fought about money in a bowling alley parking lot. Marshall told police that his father tried to hit him with his car, while Frederick Marshall claimed his son had shot a gun — a statement that was not supported by witnesses. The deputy wrote in his report that Frederick Marshall repeatedly said that he would ruin his son's football career.

That altercation came less than a month after the death of Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams, who was shot after leaving a Denver nightclub early Jan. 1, 2007. Marshall was at the same club, and he and his cousin had a disagreement with other patrons shortly before the shooting, according to statements from former teammate Javon Walker.

Marshall could not be reached for comment Tuesday seeking comment about his latest arrest. He last met with reporters June 12, the final day of a Broncos offseason camp, and at the time was optimistic about the upcoming season. He said his injured arm was healing according to schedule and that his goal was to catch at least 100 passes again in the 2008 season.

He also told reporters shortly after injuring his arm that it was time to "grow up."

"My goal for the summer is to be clean- cut and don't get into trouble," Marshall said March 27. "But it's kind of tough when I put myself in that environment. So I've got to take myself out of those environments and just hang around the right people."

Steinberg said Tuesday that Marshall and Watley are no longer a couple, and Marshall said earlier this month that he would be staying in Denver to rehabilitate his arm and do community service.

"He's been cleared to catch, he looks great, he plays great," Steinberg said.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

so lets see a DUI, numerous "police calls" about domestic violence. throw in a rough housing injury with his brother.

I'll let someone else grab this trainwreck waiting to happen

 

[mozzy84]

ouch that article does not sound good.

 

[IndyHavoc]

There is a type of NFL player I simply won't draft to be on my FF team, and Marshall is falling into that class. You can have him.

Yeah, I have to agree - from a dynasty perspective. For redraft, hell with it, I'll take all kinds of trouble if they can help me to a championship!:low moral fibre:

 

[CentralPA]

Wow, not good. I was hoping this guy would turn out to have a huge year for me but i'd be shocked if he didn't get a 4 game suspension from this

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

As I've been saying on the Audible this offseason, we know now why a talent of Marshall's magnitude fell to the 4th round. I just hope he really has left his old ways behind him, because he's obviously past the point of patience.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

####.

 

[CentralPA]

Amen, I had no better keepers for wideouts other than Lee Evans so I got a great deal and traded for this guy. I really think he'll be #1 some day if he can keep his head on straight but now I may have a keeper on the bench to begin the year because of this, very dissapointing.

 

[BigJim®]

There is a type of NFL player I simply won't draft to be on my FF team, and Marshall is falling into that class. You can have him.

Yeah, I have to agree - from a dynasty perspective. For redraft, hell with it, I'll take all kinds of trouble if they can help me to a championship!:low moral fibre:

I see what you are saying... I definitely would be far more wary in a dynasty format knowing this guy seemingly has no control over violent encounters with his S.O.; I'm no psychologist but I had always thought the level of violence in these relationships is more likely to increase over time than end abruptly. He probably needs to get out of this particular relationship ASAP and maybe that can help him turn it around.In any event, I'm moreso talking about having a FF team I can root for. I don't mind rostering the prima donna troublemakers like TO or CJ... but guys who hit women I just don't think I can cheer for.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

So, what are the odds he gets suspended? The previous domestic violence charge was dismissed, right? I'm not sure if that matters or not. This guy's a knucklehead.

 

[ffldrew]

so lets see a DUI, numerous "police calls" about domestic violence. throw in a rough housing injury with his brother.I'll let someone else grab this trainwreck waiting to happen

After reading article I'm speculating that the "rough housing" did not involve his brother and the truth will eventually come out.

 

[CentralPA]

so lets see a DUI, numerous "police calls" about domestic violence. throw in a rough housing injury with his brother.I'll let someone else grab this trainwreck waiting to happen

After reading article I'm speculating that the "rough housing" did not involve his brother and the truth will eventually come out.

That's what I am afraid of, he really needs to get his head out of his ####.

 

[KellysHeroes]

This kid is TROUBLE

I might take a shot in redraft... but his Dynasty Value is way to high. If I was luckly enough to have drafted him last yr; I would of sold by now.

 

[mozzy84]

So, what are the odds he gets suspended? The previous domestic violence charge was dismissed, right? I'm not sure if that matters or not. This guy's a knucklehead.

after reading that article my first thought was I am going to be without him at least the first couple games this season. I would rather it be at the beginning of the year at least....

 

[CentralPA]

I'm trying to trade him and the 2nd overall for Randy Moss, if that works then I think made out pretty good. This is in a 3 keeper league

 

[cutler6]

So, what are the odds he gets suspended? The previous domestic violence charge was dismissed, right? I'm not sure if that matters or not. This guy's a knucklehead.

one writer's opinion...

More trouble for Broncos' Marshall

June 25, 2008 2:19 PM

Posted by ESPN.com's Bill Williamson

There is more trouble surrounding Brandon Marshall.

The Denver Post is reporting that the Broncos' receiver was arrested in March after an alleged domestic dispute. It was Marshall's third arrest in less than 12 months. The first arrest, also a domestic charge, was dismissed.

One has to wonder about Marshall, who is clearly one of the NFL's brightest young stars on the field. Yet, Marshall is growing an off-field resume to rival the league's most-troubled players.

Marshall will be suspended for at least a game or two if he is convicted of his drunken driving trial -- set for September -- or for this latest arrest.

Marshall is an enigma for Denver's brass. He is immensely talented but the trouble is stacking up.

The Broncos are counting on Marshall. Along with quarterback Jay Cutler, he is the team's ticket to success in the next several years. But this latest arrest is another sign counting on Marshall may lead to disappointment.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks/0-7-6...r-Marshall.html

 

[Buckna]

So this is just coming out nearly 4 months after the arrest? Ouch.

So glad I traded for him in one of my leagues a month or two ago.

 

[lod01]

I'll dominate with Marshall in my starting lineup. He's got plenty of cash to feed a lawyer to buy his way out of any charges.

 

[Verbal Kint]

He's approaching Chris Henry type issues. Dude can't seem to steer clear of trouble.

 

[DoubleG]

I'll dominate with Marshall in my starting lineup. He's got plenty of cash to feed a lawyer to buy his way out of any charges.

Whistling in the dark? Lat I checked Pacman Jones, Chris Henry, Cedric Benson, etc. etc. had plenty of $ too. The issue isn't legal, it's the NFL code of conduct problem.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Whistling in the dark? Last I checked Pacman Jones, Chris Henry, Cedric Benson, etc. etc. had plenty of $ too. The issue isn't legal, it's the NFL code of conduct problem.

Dead on post. Add in the swift hammer from Goodall's office and I'd expect to see Marshall sidelined for at least 2 games.

 

[Chachi]

(ROTOWORLD) According to the Atlanta PD incident report, Brandon Marshall's hand "had been cut on glass during the fight" before his March 6 arrest for battery.

Analysis: A team spokesman says Marshall told the Broncos about this incident and it is unrelated to the severe arm injury he suffered on March 22. Marshall claims his girlfriend's two sisters attacked him on March 4. "The incident he is recovering from happened several weeks later in Florida," the Broncos' spokesman said. The NFL confirmed it is investigating Marshall's arrest. We can't envision him being available for all 16 games this season.

I have 3 sister-in-laws, none has ever attempted physical harm done on me, I have known them for about 16 years now. This guy is trash.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Is this right? In March of O7 he's arrested for some domestic issue that requires anger management counseling. In the summer of 07 his behavior is closely tied to the Darrent Williams shooting to the point that Bloom is very discouraged about his future. In October 07 he gets a DUI. In March of 08 there's another domestic violence charge. Then he gets injured in some strange falling through the TV wrestling deal rendering him useless until camp?

 

[rascal]

http://community.myfoxcolorado.com/blogs/D...shall_Interview

 

[Bizkiteer]

Brandon's new theme song...

"Bad boys, bad boys

Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do

When they come for you

Bad boys, bad boys

Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do

When they come for you

Bad boys

Whatcha want, watcha want

Whatcha gonna do

When sheriff John Brown come for you

Tell me

Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna dooo

Yeaheah

Bad boys, bad boys

Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do

When they come for you

When you were eight

And you had bad traits

You go to school

And learn the golden rule

So why are you

Acting like a bloody fool

If you get hot

You must get cool

Bad boys, bad boys

Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do

When they come for you

You chuck it on that one

You chuck it on this one

You chuck it on your mother and

You chuck it on your father

You chuck it on your brother and

You chuck it on your sister

You chuck it on that one and

You chuck it on me

Bad boys, bad boys

Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do

When they come for you

Bad boys, bad boys

Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do

When they come for you

Nobody naw give you no break

Police naw give you no break

Soldier naw give you no break

Not even you idren naw give you no break

Hehe

Bad boys, bad boys

Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do

When they come for you

Bad boys, bad boys

Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do

When they come for you

Why did you have to act so mean

Don'T you know you're human being

Born of a mother with the love of a father

Reflections come and reflections go

I know sometimes you want to let go

Hehehe

I know sometimes you want to let go

Bad boys, bad boys

Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do

When they come for you

-You're too bad, you're too cool-

-You're too bad, you're too cool-

You chuck it on that one

You chuck it on this one

You chuck it on your mother and

You chuck it on your father

You chuck it on your brother and

You chuck it on your sister

You chuck it on that one and

You chuck it on me"

 

[LTsharks]

http://community.myfoxcolorado.com/blogs/D...shall_Interview

who knows what is true, but some of the info in this video is crazy. letters from the woman's attorney basically saying give us $100,000 and we will shut up? wow.he is still going to "miss" a game or two this year, but hopefully he can move beyond this stuff.

 

[LTsharks]

just watched that entire interview. i admit to being an owner that hopes he gets himself straight in the long run (a game or two next year won't matter to my ff interests). he comes across very good in that interview with a lot of info that makes it look like a guy trying to move on from some bad situations.

if you want to get all sides, watch it.

 

[moderated]

Is this right? In March of O7 he's arrested for some domestic issue that requires anger management counseling. In the summer of 07 his behavior is closely tied to the Darrent Williams shooting to the point that Bloom is very discouraged about his future. In October 07 he gets a DUI. In March of 08 there's another domestic violence charge. Then he gets injured in some strange falling through the TV wrestling deal rendering him useless until camp?

The one thing that still shocks me after years of being in dynasty leagues and seeing Onterrio Smith/Chris Henry/and on and on is that people don't incorporate head-case issues into a players dynasty value until it's too late.I mean just a month ago people were saying if not for his injury he'd be a top 5 dynasty WR, um no, if not for his constant trouble with the law AND injury issues then i could understand that rational, but as it stands no way should anyone invest that much long-term in this trainwreck of a human being.But i'm sure it's all a coincidence and that he's just had bad luck being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Is this right? In March of O7 he's arrested for some domestic issue that requires anger management counseling. In the summer of 07 his behavior is closely tied to the Darrent Williams shooting to the point that Bloom is very discouraged about his future. In October 07 he gets a DUI. In March of 08 there's another domestic violence charge. Then he gets injured in some strange falling through the TV wrestling deal rendering him useless until camp?

Well, when you put it that way ...

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

June 27, 2008, 12:00Broncos :: WRBroncos WR Marshall Called Out By AttorneyLindsay H. Jones, Denver Post - [Full Article]A day after Denver Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall and his attorney publicly claimed that his March 6 arrest was the result of a "shakedown," his former girlfriend's attorney fired back. "His story that he has been a victim is as pathetic as the story that he slipped on a McDonald's bag and injured his arm," David McGill, one of the two attorneys representing Rasheedah Watley, said Thursday night. "Hopefully, he will be as eager to tell his story in a court of law, under oath, as he has been in the media."

 

[Real Man of Genius]

June 27, 2008, 12:00Broncos :: WRBroncos WR Marshall Called Out By AttorneyLindsay H. Jones, Denver Post - [Full Article]A day after Denver Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall and his attorney publicly claimed that his March 6 arrest was the result of a "shakedown," his former girlfriend's attorney fired back. "His story that he has been a victim is as pathetic as the story that he slipped on a McDonald's bag and injured his arm," David McGill, one of the two attorneys representing Rasheedah Watley, said Thursday night. "Hopefully, he will be as eager to tell his story in a court of law, under oath, as he has been in the media."

It might be time to sell high on Brandon Marshall.

 

[Donnie Brasco]

June 27, 2008, 12:00Broncos :: WRBroncos WR Marshall Called Out By AttorneyLindsay H. Jones, Denver Post - [Full Article]A day after Denver Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall and his attorney publicly claimed that his March 6 arrest was the result of a "shakedown," his former girlfriend's attorney fired back. "His story that he has been a victim is as pathetic as the story that he slipped on a McDonald's bag and injured his arm," David McGill, one of the two attorneys representing Rasheedah Watley, said Thursday night. "Hopefully, he will be as eager to tell his story in a court of law, under oath, as he has been in the media."

It might be time to sell high on Brandon Marshall.

Sell high???? His value is has pretty much fallen already in the last few days.. It's to late..

 

[Real Man of Genius]

June 27, 2008, 12:00Broncos :: WRBroncos WR Marshall Called Out By AttorneyLindsay H. Jones, Denver Post - [Full Article]A day after Denver Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall and his attorney publicly claimed that his March 6 arrest was the result of a "shakedown," his former girlfriend's attorney fired back. "His story that he has been a victim is as pathetic as the story that he slipped on a McDonald's bag and injured his arm," David McGill, one of the two attorneys representing Rasheedah Watley, said Thursday night. "Hopefully, he will be as eager to tell his story in a court of law, under oath, as he has been in the media."

It might be time to sell high on Brandon Marshall.

Sell high???? His value is has pretty much fallen already in the last few days.. It's to late..

Sell Medium?

 

[kneeshooter]

It might be time to sell high on Brandon Marshall.

Sell high???? His value is has pretty much fallen already in the last few days.. It's to late..

The time to sell was in February. At this point you're all in.

 

[mozzy84]

just watched that entire interview. i admit to being an owner that hopes he gets himself straight in the long run (a game or two next year won't matter to my ff interests). he comes across very good in that interview with a lot of info that makes it look like a guy trying to move on from some bad situations.

if you want to get all sides, watch it.

no way this latest case is going to stick with all the ammo his lawyer has on his ex....I am now thinking he may not miss anytime next year depending how the dui trail goes in sept.

 

[kupcho1]

I have 3 sister-in-laws, none has ever attempted physical harm done on me, I have known them for about 16 years now. This guy is trash.

For a minute there I thought you actually knew something about the case.

 

[LTsharks]

just watched that entire interview. i admit to being an owner that hopes he gets himself straight in the long run (a game or two next year won't matter to my ff interests). he comes across very good in that interview with a lot of info that makes it look like a guy trying to move on from some bad situations.

if you want to get all sides, watch it.

no way this latest case is going to stick with all the ammo his lawyer has on his ex....I am now thinking he may not miss anytime next year depending how the dui trail goes in sept.

That was sort of my point. If half of the stuff they are claiming is true then this is a joke and he has a good chance to move past it (except for the DUI charge, no excuse for that). If Marshall and his lawyer are making up their claims about the girlfriend, then he is in big trouble.if we could only have this all resolved tomorrow it would make things much easier.