Brandon Tate - Week 6 Expectations? (1 Viewer)

[BAY_AREA_GIANT]

Curious as to what people expect from him.

1. New England coming off a bye week and playing at home.

2. Baltimore without Ed Reed.

3. Baltimore was lucky to face Sanchez + training wheels in week 1, Carson Palmer, Seneca Wallace, Charlie Batch in weeks 1-4. Orton comes in and throws for 300+ yds and 2 scores. I think their secondary can and will be exposed.

4. 5 targets, 4 rec, 39 yds vs. Miami in first half - then NE special teams took over so no receptions in 2nd half.

I expect 7 rec, 75 yds, and a TD

 

[Jeff Haseley]

Changed thread title to Brandon Tate

 

[Babu Bhatt2]

Don't get too high on the guy. 4 catches, 70 yards seems about right.

 

[CaptainHook]

3 catch 45 yard

 

[Kree]

4 for 40 yards and chuck in a few ST plays if your league affords those stats to the players.

I really like the guy but I reckon this week will be a game of giving everyone a 'fair go' to see what they have in depth. I wouldn't be surprised if someone like Price (If upgraded?) outscored him thanks to a few cheapies, same with Edelman, but they don't have Tate's upside IMO.

A dynasty long term play or depth if you get desperate in redraft. I expect him to finish with maybe 2-3 100 yard games if he's lucky.

Would love him to do more though

 

[Novice2]

6 targets 5 receptions 50 yards 1 fumble

 

[BAY_AREA_GIANT]

Anyone starting him this week?

 

[netnalp]

Anyone starting him this week?

I'm going to wait and see what his role is. I'll be starting Lance Moore over Tate.I think Branch comes in to be 3rd down wr, not to start.

 

[footballnerd]

dropping him for Amendola

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I'm not sure what his final numbers will be but I'm guessing they take a shot or 2 downfield with him this week. If not him then who?

If he hooks up for a long TD with Brady, there'll probably be 3 or 4 threads created on him the next week.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I might start him this week but if we didn't get points for return yards I'd hold him on the bench.

 

[David Yudkin]

I don't think Tate gets much of a boost. Branch will be coming in and getting a lot of reps. Welker will still be the first option. Hernandez likely the guy being targeting the most after Welker at this point. Tate becomes the 4th option in NE. e may see one or two deeper routes than usual, but that may be more to keep defenses honest than regular patterns for Tate.

Tate has only been targeted 3.5 times a game so far and has played 55% of the team's snaps.

Here's the breakdown to date . . .

WR Randy Moss -- 204 of 249 (81.9 percent)

TE Aaron Hernandez -- 169 of 249 (67.9 percent)

WR Wes Welker -- 159 of 249 (63.9 percent)

TE Rob Gronkowski -- 151 of 249 (60.6 percent)

WR Brandon Tate -- 137 of 249 (55.0 percent)

TE Alge Crumpler -- 129 of 249 (51.8 percent)

WR Julian Edelman -- 37 of 249 (14.9 percent)

WR Matthew Slater -- 3 of 249 (1.2 percent)

TE Mark LeVoir -- 1 of 249 (0.4 percent)

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I don't think Tate gets much of a boost. Branch will be coming in and getting a lot of reps. Welker will still be the first option. Hernandez likely the guy being targeting the most after Welker at this point. Tate becomes the 4th option in NE. e may see one or two deeper routes than usual, but that may be more to keep defenses honest than regular patterns for Tate. Tate has only been targeted 3.5 times a game so far and has played 55% of the team's snaps.Here's the breakdown to date . . .WR Randy Moss -- 204 of 249 (81.9 percent) TE Aaron Hernandez -- 169 of 249 (67.9 percent) WR Wes Welker -- 159 of 249 (63.9 percent) TE Rob Gronkowski -- 151 of 249 (60.6 percent) WR Brandon Tate -- 137 of 249 (55.0 percent) TE Alge Crumpler -- 129 of 249 (51.8 percent) WR Julian Edelman -- 37 of 249 (14.9 percent) WR Matthew Slater -- 3 of 249 (1.2 percent) TE Mark LeVoir -- 1 of 249 (0.4 percent)

I'm not saying Tate will get a big boost, but doesn't everything change now? Defenses will plan for NE completely different now that Moss isn't on the field.

 

[NeverEnough]

3 catches

54 yards

1 TD

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I don't believe in Branch. He might eat into Tate's catches this week but I really don't believe he's still an above average wr.

 

[David Yudkin]

I don't think Tate gets much of a boost. Branch will be coming in and getting a lot of reps. Welker will still be the first option. Hernandez likely the guy being targeting the most after Welker at this point. Tate becomes the 4th option in NE. e may see one or two deeper routes than usual, but that may be more to keep defenses honest than regular patterns for Tate. Tate has only been targeted 3.5 times a game so far and has played 55% of the team's snaps.Here's the breakdown to date . . .WR Randy Moss -- 204 of 249 (81.9 percent) TE Aaron Hernandez -- 169 of 249 (67.9 percent) WR Wes Welker -- 159 of 249 (63.9 percent) TE Rob Gronkowski -- 151 of 249 (60.6 percent) WR Brandon Tate -- 137 of 249 (55.0 percent) TE Alge Crumpler -- 129 of 249 (51.8 percent) WR Julian Edelman -- 37 of 249 (14.9 percent) WR Matthew Slater -- 3 of 249 (1.2 percent) TE Mark LeVoir -- 1 of 249 (0.4 percent)

I'm not saying Tate will get a big boost, but doesn't everything change now? Defenses will plan for NE completely different now that Moss isn't on the field.

I'm talking about what happens to NE, not what defenses do. If Tate wasn't getting open and utilized a lot with Moss drawing double coverage (and Moss not being thrown to a lot), I'm not sure he will get open much more without Moss.Some folks think that Tate becomes a force with Moss out of the picture. I don't think that happens this year.

 

[David Yudkin]

I don't believe in Branch. He might eat into Tate's catches this week but I really don't believe he's still an above average wr.

What we think doesn't matter. It's what the Pats think that counts.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I don't believe in Branch. He might eat into Tate's catches this week but I really don't believe he's still an above average wr.

What we think doesn't matter. It's what the Pats think that counts.

I agree.Of course that's true. And if Branch does suck it won't take the Patriots long to move on.

 

[TWP]

Consider me one of the guys who thinks that Tate steps up and does well now without Moss. As David said, Welker is #1 and it looks like Hernandez is #2. That means single coverage for Tate. With Brady throwing the ball, I wouldnt bet against a long TD for Tate.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

I would start Tate only in leagues that award points for return yardage. Otherwise I'm in wait-and-see mode.

 

[David Yudkin]

Consider me one of the guys who thinks that Tate steps up and does well now without Moss. As David said, Welker is #1 and it looks like Hernandez is #2. That means single coverage for Tate. With Brady throwing the ball, I wouldnt bet against a long TD for Tate.

How is your scenario any different than what just happened with Moss there? He wasn't getting targeted much when he probably was even lower on the coverage concerns for defenders.

 

[Ballstein]

8 catches

140 td

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Consider me one of the guys who thinks that Tate steps up and does well now without Moss. As David said, Welker is #1 and it looks like Hernandez is #2. That means single coverage for Tate. With Brady throwing the ball, I wouldnt bet against a long TD for Tate.

How is your scenario any different than what just happened with Moss there? He wasn't getting targeted much when he probably was even lower on the coverage concerns for defenders.

How often was Tate actually on the field when Moss was playing?

 

[David Yudkin]

Consider me one of the guys who thinks that Tate steps up and does well now without Moss. As David said, Welker is #1 and it looks like Hernandez is #2. That means single coverage for Tate. With Brady throwing the ball, I wouldnt bet against a long TD for Tate.

How is your scenario any different than what just happened with Moss there? He wasn't getting targeted much when he probably was even lower on the coverage concerns for defenders.

How often was Tate actually on the field when Moss was playing?

See the chart listed aboue. Moss was on the field a lot.

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

I don't care if Tate becomes a force I want him to retain his duties on KR and marginally increase his on field performance.

I would be happy with 5/50/0.25 (each game) from here on out.

He was the #7WR in my league before his bye week - we score 0.5ppr and 1pt per rush/recv, 1pt per 20 ret yards.

 

[pyite76]

Any word on if he is still the primary KR? This would make him a must start for most teams I would think if your league gives points for KR yardage.

 

[guderian]

I don't think Tate gets much of a boost. Branch will be coming in and getting a lot of reps. Welker will still be the first option. Hernandez likely the guy being targeting the most after Welker at this point. Tate becomes the 4th option in NE. e may see one or two deeper routes than usual, but that may be more to keep defenses honest than regular patterns for Tate. Tate has only been targeted 3.5 times a game so far and has played 55% of the team's snaps.Here's the breakdown to date . . .WR Randy Moss -- 204 of 249 (81.9 percent) TE Aaron Hernandez -- 169 of 249 (67.9 percent) WR Wes Welker -- 159 of 249 (63.9 percent) TE Rob Gronkowski -- 151 of 249 (60.6 percent) WR Brandon Tate -- 137 of 249 (55.0 percent) TE Alge Crumpler -- 129 of 249 (51.8 percent) WR Julian Edelman -- 37 of 249 (14.9 percent) WR Matthew Slater -- 3 of 249 (1.2 percent) TE Mark LeVoir -- 1 of 249 (0.4 percent)

So we have 204 snaps to shift around to other receivers. You've been pretty high on Branch stepping in as the #1 WR, but it's hard to see him getting more snaps than Welker. So even if you assume that Branch gets close to Welker level and gets 150 snaps, that still leaves 54 snaps to be distributed. I calculated that they average 1.8 TEs per snap, so it's hard to imagine that going any higher. So, Tate has to be in line for some kind of a bump. You've also mentioned that Tate won't benefit from Moss drawing coverage, but he'll also be a more attractive option with Moss out of the mix. Tate's averaging 2.75 receptions/game. If that gets bumped to 3.5, then that's ~56 over a season or a ranking of ~46 based on last year's stats. That's not bad for some of us in deeper leagues and he has upside considering that these are essentially his first four games.

 

[David Yudkin]

I don't think Tate gets much of a boost. Branch will be coming in and getting a lot of reps. Welker will still be the first option. Hernandez likely the guy being targeting the most after Welker at this point. Tate becomes the 4th option in NE. e may see one or two deeper routes than usual, but that may be more to keep defenses honest than regular patterns for Tate. Tate has only been targeted 3.5 times a game so far and has played 55% of the team's snaps.Here's the breakdown to date . . .WR Randy Moss -- 204 of 249 (81.9 percent) TE Aaron Hernandez -- 169 of 249 (67.9 percent) WR Wes Welker -- 159 of 249 (63.9 percent) TE Rob Gronkowski -- 151 of 249 (60.6 percent) WR Brandon Tate -- 137 of 249 (55.0 percent) TE Alge Crumpler -- 129 of 249 (51.8 percent) WR Julian Edelman -- 37 of 249 (14.9 percent) WR Matthew Slater -- 3 of 249 (1.2 percent) TE Mark LeVoir -- 1 of 249 (0.4 percent)

So we have 204 snaps to shift around to other receivers. You've been pretty high on Branch stepping in as the #1 WR, but it's hard to see him getting more snaps than Welker. So even if you assume that Branch gets close to Welker level and gets 150 snaps, that still leaves 54 snaps to be distributed. I calculated that they average 1.8 TEs per snap, so it's hard to imagine that going any higher. So, Tate has to be in line for some kind of a bump. You've also mentioned that Tate won't benefit from Moss drawing coverage, but he'll also be a more attractive option with Moss out of the mix. Tate's averaging 2.75 receptions/game. If that gets bumped to 3.5, then that's ~56 over a season or a ranking of ~46 based on last year's stats. That's not bad for some of us in deeper leagues and he has upside considering that these are essentially his first four games.

Say there are 60 snaps a game available that are up for grabs now that MOss is gone (NE has had a number of return TD that kept the offense off the field).I would guess . . .40 to Branch5 more to Welker5 more to Hernandez5 more to Tate5 more to be split among the leftoversI'm not saying Tate is worthless, but I don't think in "regular" sized leagues that he becomes a fantasy starter. I play in larger leagues and Tate has been rostered and in lineups already.

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

Any word on if he is still the primary KR? This would make him a must start for most teams I would think if your league gives points for KR yardage.

I think he does but I noticed that the Ravens only gave up 2 KR opps against Denver - was this cause they kicked out of the endzone?

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

Any word on if he is still the primary KR? This would make him a must start for most teams I would think if your league gives points for KR yardage.

I think he does but I noticed that the Ravens only gave up 2 KR opps against Denver - was this cause they kicked out of the endzone?

Looks like it Tate put up a stinker for me this week. Can't really count him out yet though. Branch looks like a monster.

 

[RedskinsFan]

I was a week late but I decided to drop Tate and jumped on the Danario Alexander bandwagon. Pretty disappointing what we got from Tate this week and I'm not sure that changes at all with Branch producing like he did. Best case I think is Wallace production, very few catches but meaningful ones but without chemistry with Brady his ceiling is not that high to me