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Brave, new browser by Mozilla founder. Brave Rewards now live on ios (1 Viewer)

In a similar vein, I've wanted to switch over to Protonmail for a while now but it's been unusable due to miniscule font size. Give me Inbox by Gmail with Protonmail security and I'd be very happy.

 
The tokens I added from Uphold to my Brave browser increase in value along with the Uphold/Binance price still. Didn't expect that. Neato 
Kind of funny.  I set the automated allowance at 600 BAT to distribute over 6 months at .20, or $20 a month toward my favorite publishers at the time.  I didn't anticipate it being $60 a month anytime soon.  May need to nerf it to 33.3, uh, repeating of course, BAT per month.  

Still waiting for Joe/Dodds to become verified publishers.  

 
Kind of funny.  I set the automated allowance at 600 BAT to distribute over 6 months at .20, or $20 a month toward my favorite publishers at the time.  I didn't anticipate it being $60 a month anytime soon.  May need to nerf it to 33.3, uh, repeating of course, BAT per month.  

Still waiting for Joe/Dodds to become verified publishers.  
How long have you been paying out?

I have my first payout coming up on the 13th and just went through and setup who to payout to. 

 
How long have you been paying out?

I have my first payout coming up on the 13th and just went through and setup who to payout to. 
About three months now.  I have 300 remaining out of the original 600 bat deposit.  I didn't mean for that to end up being $200 dollars

 
Kind of funny.  I set the automated allowance at 600 BAT to distribute over 6 months at .20, or $20 a month toward my favorite publishers at the time.  I didn't anticipate it being $60 a month anytime soon.  May need to nerf it to 33.3, uh, repeating of course, BAT per month.  

Still waiting for Joe/Dodds to become verified publishers.  


@David Dodds @Joe Bryant when are you all gonna enable Brave payments?  I've got BAT deposits lined up for 6 months and it is literally free money.  Go ahead and do it!  

https://publishers.basicattentiontoken.org/

https://publishers.basicattentiontoken.org/

https://publishers.basicattentiontoken.org/


I just looked at my Brave payments settings and this site is sitting at the top of my list of websites/publishers by a good % margin.  There really aren't too many other sites I want to send my BAT to at this moment, so it would be good to know if FBG is interested. 

It doesn't sound too hard to get verified, and I don't think there could be any downside - is there any?

 
I just looked at my Brave payments settings and this site is sitting at the top of my list of websites/publishers by a good % margin.  There really aren't too many other sites I want to send my BAT to at this moment, so it would be good to know if FBG is interested. 

It doesn't sound too hard to get verified, and I don't think there could be any downside - is there any?
Looking at my monthly distribution of 17.5 BAT/month, footballguys' 13% would end up being roughly .94 cents.  That's with BAT trading way lower with the market down (and ad trials still not active yet).  

It's flying under the radar.  It's honestly the most compelling application yet for the ethereum platform.  It'd be cool to see footballguys become verified publishers, if only to give us occasional updates on the brave payments system from their end. @Joe Bryant ?  

 
Love the look and feel, but bookmarks and bookmark manager are turrible;  I guess it looked good to Mr. Magoo. 

Can't seem to rearrange them - drag and drop either drops them in the wrong slot, or the bookmark disappears altogether. Won't have anything to do with payment features until they can ace the 1990's.

 
Love the look and feel, but bookmarks and bookmark manager are turrible;  I guess it looked good to Mr. Magoo. 

Can't seem to rearrange them - drag and drop either drops them in the wrong slot, or the bookmark disappears altogether. Won't have anything to do with payment features until they can ace the 1990's.
I have found certain websites don't perform well with Brave as well (on iOS anyway). I've spent 2-3 months with Brave as my primary on my iPhone, but about to make the switch back to Chrome i think. 
 

 
Love the look and feel, but bookmarks and bookmark manager are turrible;  I guess it looked good to Mr. Magoo. 

Can't seem to rearrange them - drag and drop either drops them in the wrong slot, or the bookmark disappears altogether. Won't have anything to do with payment features until they can ace the 1990's.
That's strange.  I never had much of a problem arranging bookmarks on the bookmarks bar.  I do have to drag the URL to the bookmarks bar, then drag the bookmark to the place I want it on the bar itself.  

Not super convenient, but not a deal breaker either.  

 
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-internets-original-sin-endangers-more-than-privacy-1524868508

The Internet’s ‘Original Sin’ Endangers More Than Privacy

The fruits of free software: wasted time and energy and an ad industry that’s impossible to keep honest.

By Brendan Eich and Brian Brown

April 27, 2018 6:35 p.m. ET

Reactions to [Facebook](http://quotes.wsj.com/FB) ’s privacy leaks ranged from surprise at the scale of the data breach to disbelief that anyone could be “shocked, shocked” about what transpires inside Silicon Valley’s abattoirs of data. But the loss of privacy is only one symptom of systemic ills plaguing the internet. The problem began with what some call the internet’s original sin—offering free software and content in exchange for the hope of unprecedented growth. Advertising was supposed to pay the way.

The plan worked well for Facebook and Google, which together control 87% of digital advertising, [according](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-06/facebook-s-data-crackdown-has-two-winners-facebook-and-google?mod=article_inline) to Bloomberg. But their success belies a basic truth: Internet advertising is broken. It abuses users, starves publishers of revenue, and creates unprecedented levels of fraud for advertisers. The situation drove [Procter & Gamble](http://quotes.wsj.com/PG) ’s chief brand officer to declare last year that “the days of giving digital \[advertising\] a pass are over.”

Internet advertising started simply, but over time organically evolved a mess of middle players and congealed into a surveillance economy. Today, between end users, publishers and advertisers stand a throng of agencies, trading desks, demand side platforms, network exchanges and yield optimizers. Intermediaries track users in an attempt to improve revenue.

It’s an inevitable consequence of such a system that users end up treated as a resource to be exploited. When you visit the celebrity website TMZ, for instance, you face as many as 124 trackers, according to a Crownpeak test. Your data is stored and profiled to retarget promotions that shadow you around the Internet. You become the product. Some claim your data is not “sold,” but access is certainly rented out.

The Facebook\-Google ad duopoly also vacuums up gigabytes of personal data: Google collects the places you’ve gone, devices you’ve used, everything you’ve searched or browsed, pictures of your children, emails, contacts and more. Facebook knows where you logged on and has access to webcams and microphones, emails, messages, call logs and more. The scale of the intrusion is what prompted our company to develop the privacy\-oriented Brave browser, which will soon offer a consent\-based ad model that pays you to surf the internet.

The inconveniences go beyond privacy. [Studies](http://www.businessinsider.com/mobile-ads-account-for-half-of-users-monthly-data-plans-2016-3?mod=article_inline)  [show](https://medium.com/@robleathern/carriers-are-making-more-from-mobile-ads-than-publishers-are-d5d3c0827b39?mod=article_inline) that as much as half the data consumed on mobile plans goes to downloading ads and trackers, adding significantly to fixed mobile data plans. The sheer scale of material adds at least five seconds to mobile page load times, [according](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/01/business/cost-of-mobile-ads.html?mod=article_inline) to the New York Times. As much as 50% of mobile battery life is consumed by ads while browsing.

Security is another cost. The scale of malware and ransomware delivered by fake advertisements and other techniques is difficult to measure. But security firm Confiant [found](https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/01/malvertising-factory-with-28-fake-agencies-delivered-1-billion-ads-in-2017/?mod=article_inline) last year that one rogue group managed to create 28 fake ad agencies that bought about one billion malware\-laden ad views and reached 62% of ad\-based websites. Major media sites such as the New York Times and the BBC have [hosted](https://www.cnet.com/news/new-york-times-bbc-dangerous-ads-ransomware-malvertising/?mod=article_inline) ads containing ransomware.

Publishers have not fared much better in their Faustian bargain of exchanging digital content for the hope of better distribution and revenue from the duopoly. Newspapers have been particularly hard hit, with total ad revenues [dropping](https://www.forbes.com/sites/tonysilber/2018/04/11/star-tribune-publisher-newspapers-can-survive-but-things-have-to-change-lots-of-things/#30a71e69b10f?mod=article_inline) from $49 billion in 2006 to $18 billion in 2016. About 96% of all growth in digital ad spend went to Google and Facebook last year [according](https://adexchanger.com/platforms/zenith-magna-groupm-duopoly-will-capture-almost-advertising-growth-2018/?mod=article_inline) to Zenith.

Some of the revenue is drained off by the complex mix of ad\-tech middle players, including network partners, exchanges, trading desks, verification vendors and data\-management platforms, that conspire to serve up ill\-targeted ads that suck down data and drain batteries. Users try to defend themselves with ad\-blocking software, which now resides on more than 600 million devices, [according](http://www.businessinsider.com/pagefair-2017-ad-blocking-report-2017-1?mod=article_inline) to PageFair. This further reduces publisher revenue.

Ad\-blockers and the ad\-tech blob also harm brands. This opaque system makes it difficult to know which ads are served and viewed. Regardless, marketing personnel keep spending budgets, as they must. As a consequence, ad fraud will reach $19 billion in 2018, or about $51 million a day, [according](https://www.juniperresearch.com/press/press-releases/ad-fraud-to-cost-advertisers-$19-billion-in-2018?mod=article_inline) to Juniper research.

For a solution, look to blockchain technology. More than a word peppering earnings calls, it can deliver the change brands, publishers and users need. Put simply, it’s an immutable database that records transactions and produces trustworthy data.

In advertising, blockchain’s reliable data can radically shrink the ad\-tech blob and provide the foundation for consent\-based ad models. Improved blockchain reporting and transparency would obviate much of the need for companies focused on measurement, verification and even some data suppliers. Companies like Brave are using blockchain to build software that allows for more\-direct relationships between advertisers and publishers, as it was before the blob. \(Earlier this month Brave [announced](https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/dow-jones-media-group-partners-with-brave-software-to-offer-premium-content-to-users-and-test-blockchain-based-payment-technology-300631972.html?mod=article_inline) a partnership with Dow Jones Media Group, a division of this newspaper’s parent company.\) Anonymous data on the blockchain or on a device can even replace the need for the mining of individual user data. Users should be compensated for their attention and seen as customers again.

The internet need not be characterized by predation and parasitism. It can once again be a place of infinite possibility. Innovation got us into this situation; it can get us out.
 
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https://brave.com/download-dev

https://brave.com/download-dev

https://brave.com/download-dev

The rewrite of Brave named Brave Core is available on the Brave Dev channel (self.BATProject)

SUBMITTED 6 DAYS AGO * BY BBONDYBRAVE CTO

Hello BAT community!

An early build of the rewrite of Brave on desktop named Brave Core is available on the Brave Dev channel: https://brave.com/download-dev

Close to a year ago, on Nov 10, 2017 we made our first commit for this rewrite: "Hello World!"

https://github.com/brave/brave-core/commit/7c2aadf44ac43566ce23c26d190b690cebaa7ff8

In hindsight, we should have used a cooler first commit message, something like the Bitcoin genesis block text of: "Chancellor on Brink of Second Bailout for Banks" :P.

This version is known as 0.55.x.

0.55.x will eventually be the first version of Brave Core to replace the Brave builds which are available on brave.com.

You will see 0.55.x get updated at least weekly and progress through its 3 week life on Dev channel, spends 3 weeks on Beta channel, then migrates to release channel within a week after Oct 16th.

Some big items from the top of my head that you can look out for in this release:

All extensions are now installable by default. We maintain 3 levels of support: Allowed and vetted, Allowed and unvetted (we give an extra warning), and blocked. Currently the blocked list is empty but we plan to add unsafe things there.

You can import both from the current version of Brave, Chrome, and other browsers.

Beautiful welcome page.

Multi channel support, initially with the release of Dev channel. Beta channel and Release channel coming in 3 and 6 weeks respectively. Channels will always be updated, where Dev channel will always contain the newest code.

Ad-blocking which is more efficient than the current version of Brave since all blocking is done on the network thread now.

Regional ad-blocking, but with auto selection of region instead of opt-in like in the current product.

Tracking protection support.

HTTPS everywhere support.

Cookie blocking support.

Fingerprinting protection support.

Referrer blocking support.

NoScript support.

Permission based autoplay support.

WebTorrent support.

Default built-in light and dark theme support, dark theme by default only for Dev channel, but can be used in any channel in preferences.

Persistent "Block this element" support by right clicking on anything in any page.

Chrome specific privacy invasive things are all removed.

Search terms fed to Google suggest off by default, instead use Alexa top sites as a data source.

An early form of Brave Rewards, formerly called Brave payments is in, but currently disabled on Windows.

Brave's new tab page.

Restores last session by default.

Distinct search engine selection for private new tab page.

Localization.

Safe browsing proxied to be more private.

Flash disabled by default, but can be turned on.

Using PDF.js by default instead of PDFium which has frequent security problems in Chrome.

Widevine on macOS.

I'm forgetting lots more...

Some big items landing in an update within the next couple weeks are:

Tor private window support.

Widevine on Windows (Linux will be later but not within 2 weeks).

More UI changes to look more Brave-like.

Referral builds

You can find a detailed rundown of the roadmap here:

https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Roadmap

You can find release schedule related information here:

https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Brave-Release-Schedule

I'd love to hear your feedback in this thread, and if you find issues, please feel free to post them here:

https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues

Here are some screenshots for your enjoyment:

Welcome page

Same shields panel and protections

Brave/BAT Rewards

Customize sites you're contributing to

Webtorrent sample site

Change default theme color in settings

 
Chrome has become a nightmare.  If you sign in, it syncs all of your stuff.  I had to have IT uninstall chrome, signing out doesn't seem to work. 

 
Walking Boot said:
Switched over from Chrome to Brave the day Google started doing that #### everywhere.

Don't hate Brave yet. Some sites don't quite work right, but, I find I don't really miss the stuff I'm missing.

The Lastpass extension works great so the switch was pretty easy. The only extension I don't have that I wish I did is Reddit Enhancement Suite, once that ports over I might never fire up Chrome again.
Allow me to suggest the Chrome build of Brave, available at https://brave.com/download-beta .  Brave 1.0.  

It's compatible with all extensions including RES and runs like an absolute dream.  My favorite extensions are:

  • The Great Suspender
  • Hover Free
  • imgur extension
  • Better TTV
  • change 'millennials' to 'adults under 40'
  • I don't care about cookies
Make sure to leave the 'Brave Rewards' feature turned off though.  I had some problems with crashing on very simple functions until someone told me to leave it turned off.  Works great.  

 
I can see Tom’s point.  Sucks that anyone could be so personally wounded by users opting into a system where publishers like himself get paid for their attention, but it’s not an unfair point.  

I don’t think the automated BAT payment system is the same thing as a donation/tipping system in the “PayPal” sense.  To insinuate that they’re just hoarding all this money to jack the users/publishers is about the most bad faith reading possible.  

Hate that Brave could get kneecapped by something like this while google runs a train on Tom’s users, but whatever

 
Chrome is "snap" crashing on me every hour right now.  Is it time for Brave?  Do I go back to Firefox?  Are we just doomed in browser world?

 
Chrome is "snap" crashing on me every hour right now.  Is it time for Brave?  Do I go back to Firefox?  Are we just doomed in browser world?
If Chrome is crashing due to a corrupt DLL or some other interaction, then there's a good chance you'll have the same issue with Brave.

I would switch to Firefox and then try a clean uninstall/re-install of Chrome. But that may not help if the crash is not related to Chrome but to another program that interacts with it.

 
Brave users will be able to redeem earned tokens for hotel stays worldwide, restaurant vouchers, exclusive entertainment experiences, as well as gift cards from top national brands including Amazon, Starbucks, Uber, Apple and many more. They will also be able to contribute to the Red Cross, Habitat for Humanity, World Wildlife Fund, and hundreds of other charitable causes via TAP Network. Brave will be extending this partnership to include mobile platforms by the end of 2019.

Brave Software and TAP Network Put Blockchain to Work with New Partnership

 
Brave users will be able to redeem earned tokens for hotel stays worldwide, restaurant vouchers, exclusive entertainment experiences, as well as gift cards from top national brands including Amazon, Starbucks, Uber, Apple and many more. They will also be able to contribute to the Red Cross, Habitat for Humanity, World Wildlife Fund, and hundreds of other charitable causes via TAP Network. Brave will be extending this partnership to include mobile platforms by the end of 2019.

Brave Software and TAP Network Put Blockchain to Work with New Partnership
Good for Brave, good for BAT, good for ETH.  Glad to see things coalescing around ethereum.  

 
Tipping is now working on my mobile browser and they just gave me 20 BAT (about $9 right now) to give away, but I don't really have any sites I want to give it to other than FBG and one other place I frequent. Neither is verified yet, though. 

 
Hmm, I have the mobile Brave browser ad there is nothing for anything to create an account or tip, etc.

 
Tipping is now working on my mobile browser and they just gave me 20 BAT (about $9 right now) to give away, but I don't really have any sites I want to give it to other than FBG and one other place I frequent. Neither is verified yet, though. 
I PMed Joe a while back about making FBGs a verified publisher.  It would be cool to announce that footballguys.com is a verified publisher, and see what kind of metrics we have.  I would imagine it's not an insignificant amount.  But he was busy at the time and said they were going to leave it alone for now.  

Would donating the basic attention tokens FBG receives to charity change your opinion at all, @Joe Bryant?  

 
Hmm, I have the mobile Brave browser ad there is nothing for anything to create an account or tip, etc.
Jhib must have an Android phone.  I believe it's active on mobile for Android, but not iOS yet.  
Yup.  Android on a Samsung Note.  Recent update added the Brave Rewards function and then today I got notification of a token that I just needed to accept that put 20 BAT into my browser wallet for doling out as tips.

 
I PMed Joe a while back about making FBGs a verified publisher.  It would be cool to announce that footballguys.com is a verified publisher, and see what kind of metrics we have.  I would imagine it's not an insignificant amount.  But he was busy at the time and said they were going to leave it alone for now.  

Would donating the basic attention tokens FBG receives to charity change your opinion at all, @Joe Bryant?  
Thanks. Likely not something we can move to a priority now. Send the info to me by email at bryant@footballguys.com and I can take a look for possibly the future. 

 
Brave is just the Chrome browser with different plugins/look. Even Microsoft Edge switched over to be basically a Chrome browser.

There are really only a couple browsers: Firefox, Safari, chrome, and IE. Anything else is just one of those browsers with a different look and name.

 
MTskibum said:
Brave is just the Chrome browser with different plugins/look. Even Microsoft Edge switched over to be basically a Chrome browser.

There are really only a couple browsers: Firefox, Safari, chrome, and IE. Anything else is just one of those browsers with a different look and name.
Sure, if you ignore the big thing that makes Brave different (or at least will make it different once it's fully implemented).

 
Chrome has become a nightmare.  If you sign in, it syncs all of your stuff.  I had to have IT uninstall chrome, signing out doesn't seem to work. 
Chrome sucks so bad. I opened one window the other day after running Crap Cleaner and clearing everything. Chrome opened 12 processes for one window. Slows down my computer ad it locks every now and then. Eff Chrome

 
What’s that?  Any good?  Better than Chrome?
Yeah I think so.  Blocks ads natively, is faster, rewards the publishers you like to browse with BAT (Joe could literally make ad $ off the FFA), lot of other features too.

 
I had tried Brave early on and didn't care for it. I reinstalled it recently after seeing it mentioned somewhere and I've really enjoyed it. Much snappier, and I like the customizable security shields.  Only thing I'd say is a mild complaint is that I notice it tends to bog down a bit when you have lots of tabs open. A close and reopen usually fixes all issues. 

Oh, and just got my first $2 worth of BAT via Brave (to add to my existing hoard of BAT).  

Has anyone connected their Brave Wallet to Uphold? I assume that lets you transfer your BAT from Brave to Uphold? @ren hoek?

 
I had tried Brave early on and didn't care for it. I reinstalled it recently after seeing it mentioned somewhere and I've really enjoyed it. Much snappier, and I like the customizable security shields.  Only thing I'd say is a mild complaint is that I notice it tends to bog down a bit when you have lots of tabs open. A close and reopen usually fixes all issues. 

Oh, and just got my first $2 worth of BAT via Brave (to add to my existing hoard of BAT).  

Has anyone connected their Brave Wallet to Uphold? I assume that lets you transfer your BAT from Brave to Uphold? @ren hoek?
I'm glad you like it.  I've been using it for better or worse since the first time I ever heard of it, back in August of 17 when it was a mess.  It's come a long way since then though.

Yes, I believe the browser holds the BAT for you until you pass KYC verification (through an external provider like Uphold).  I'm not familiar with Brave wallet just yet but apparently it's out.  Also, I believe most people prefer Gemini for BAT withdrawals.  I understand it's a little easier on the fees and I think you can also collect interest on your BAT holdings if you prefer.  

 

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