Braylon + Texans = (1 Viewer)

[rizzler]

Alrite, quick preface: I am a browns fan.

Saw Braylon at his peak. Watched him terrorize the league. Watch him make amazing catch after amazing catch. also watched him drop some of the simplest balls possible.

Will the Texans revive the career of braylon edwards? rumours are linking him to the texans at the moment, and kubiak exclaimed he wants to bring in a veteran WR...

andre pulling coverage, arian keeping the ground and the air on alert... is this exactly what Braylon needs? soft coverage and a good QB to get back on track? Gotta admit Ive been low on the guy for a while now, but this news kinda got my juices flowing.

 

[DerekR]

I think it's a perfect fit for him. Hopefully it ends up happening

 

[dhockster]

Remind me what his off field issues are. Because the more baggage, the less likely the Texans sign him. The Texans generally like good

character guys (to the point of missing out on good talent).

Also, depends on how much he has to get paid. The Texans are hard up against the cap, and have several big contracts hitting next year. They

can't afford to take on much salary.

 

[FF Ninja]

hockster, I agree the Texans have avoided off field issues in the past, but the most exciting thing about drafting Posey was that it could possibly mean that we are moving away from the squeaky clean image and accepting that some of these guys make mistakes but that doesn't mean they can't help us win a championship.

That being said, I'd be interested to see Braylon come here, but I still kind of doubt it happens.

 

[Sweet Love]

Remind me what his off field issues are. Because the more baggage, the less likely the Texans sign him. The Texans generally like good

character guys (to the point of missing out on good talent).

Also, depends on how much he has to get paid. The Texans are hard up against the cap, and have several big contracts hitting next year. They

can't afford to take on much salary.

Mostly speeding related; one DWI and the "big one" was when he got into a fight with a club promoter who gave him crap about being jealous of LeBron (and therefore had to leave Cleveland). Pretty tame stuff compared to the ones we classify as "trouble makers". He also did a lot of good charity work and stuck on his promise to put 101 kids through college (10k scholarship each) even after he left Cleveland. He really is not a bad guy.

 

[finito]

He was pretty cool for the most part in New York. Good team player, one big mess-up with the DWI.

 

[dhockster]

Remind me what his off field issues are. Because the more baggage, the less likely the Texans sign him. The Texans generally like good

character guys (to the point of missing out on good talent).

Also, depends on how much he has to get paid. The Texans are hard up against the cap, and have several big contracts hitting next year. They

can't afford to take on much salary.

Mostly speeding related; one DWI and the "big one" was when he got into a fight with a club promoter who gave him crap about being jealous of LeBron (and therefore had to leave Cleveland). Pretty tame stuff compared to the ones we classify as "trouble makers". He also did a lot of good charity work and stuck on his promise to put 101 kids through college (10k scholarship each) even after he left Cleveland. He really is not a bad guy.

Thanks. Based on the point Ninja made above with the Texans drafting Posey, maybe they are more likely to go after Edwards. However, I still think salary requirements will make it unlikely.

 

[rizzler]

He's better than Walter and Jones were combined, times 5.

They'd be silly not to take a chance if they can get him for minimal $. They're SB contenders, IMO. They could really use a guy like him. If he starts to flourish, AJ could be in for a huge season

 

[Reaper]

LOVED Braylon with the Jets - Way too many people looked at his drops from years ago and never gave him a break but, the jets offense never really threw deep after he left, Sanchez or not.

Seems like his Off field stuff is overblown as well....

For some reason Braylon is just one of those guys that everyone trots out the cliches for. There's a lot worse people in this league and a lot worse hands.

Rex raved about him in his book - Great Worker, Great Blocker. I've folowed his twitter, I think he's a good guy that is working his tail off who is potentially a great signing for someone.

If he's healthy, I'm drafting!!!!!

 

[NJDawgPound]

Remind me what his off field issues are. Because the more baggage, the less likely the Texans sign him. The Texans generally like good

character guys (to the point of missing out on good talent).

Also, depends on how much he has to get paid. The Texans are hard up against the cap, and have several big contracts hitting next year. They

can't afford to take on much salary.

Mostly speeding related; one DWI and the "big one" was when he got into a fight with a club promoter who gave him crap about being jealous of LeBron (and therefore had to leave Cleveland). Pretty tame stuff compared to the ones we classify as "trouble makers". He also did a lot of good charity work and stuck on his promise to put 101 kids through college (10k scholarship each) even after he left Cleveland. He really is not a bad guy.

I probably am in the minority here among Browns fans but I'd love to see him come back to Cleveland and make it right. I turned the corner on the hate when Braylon was long gone from Cleveland but still honored his promise and gave all those $10,000 scholarships to those Cleveland kids. Classy move, and he really didn't toot his own horn about it.

 

[rizzler]

Remind me what his off field issues are. Because the more baggage, the less likely the Texans sign him. The Texans generally like good

character guys (to the point of missing out on good talent).

Also, depends on how much he has to get paid. The Texans are hard up against the cap, and have several big contracts hitting next year. They

can't afford to take on much salary.

Mostly speeding related; one DWI and the "big one" was when he got into a fight with a club promoter who gave him crap about being jealous of LeBron (and therefore had to leave Cleveland). Pretty tame stuff compared to the ones we classify as "trouble makers". He also did a lot of good charity work and stuck on his promise to put 101 kids through college (10k scholarship each) even after he left Cleveland. He really is not a bad guy.

I probably am in the minority here among Browns fans but I'd love to see him come back to Cleveland and make it right. I turned the corner on the hate when Braylon was long gone from Cleveland but still honored his promise and gave all those $10,000 scholarships to those Cleveland kids. Classy move, and he really didn't toot his own horn about it.

i wish. a part of me still hopes it happens, but Ive kind of given up on the browns for picking up good free agent WRs.it'd be a fit. and id hope Braylon would be open to it.

 

[dhockster]

He's better than Walter and Jones were combined, times 5.They'd be silly not to take a chance if they can get him for minimal $. They're SB contenders, IMO. They could really use a guy like him. If he starts to flourish, AJ could be in for a huge season

I agree that the Texans need an upgrade at number 2, especially with AJ getting older, and potential health issues. I also agree that Braylon would be a great fit. Finally, I agree that the Texans should and could get him if it were for minimal dollars. Get it done, Rick Smith!

 

[Buckna]

IIRC, the Texans were linked to him last offseason in rumors before he ended up a Niner.

IMO, stick a fork in this guy.

 

[GregR]

hockster, I agree the Texans have avoided off field issues in the past, but the most exciting thing about drafting Posey was that it could possibly mean that we are moving away from the squeaky clean image and accepting that some of these guys make mistakes but that doesn't mean they can't help us win a championship.

That being said, I'd be interested to see Braylon come here, but I still kind of doubt it happens.

I wouldn't read Posey as much of a move away from how they've viewed character.From comments the team has made I think they view Posey as a guy who got into trouble mainly for trying to get money when his family was in financial problems. It doesn't necessarily condone what he did, but it's a bit different than drugs arrests or fights.

The big thing for the Texans was how he handled it. They heard he came into practice all year even though he couldn't play in the games, and was apparently a great teammate during that time working with the players starting in his place. And he was apparently very forthcoming in discussing it with the team in the combine interviews and said the right things to where it didn't seem like the problems would be a repeating pattern.

I think they saw enough in how he handled the consequences that they think he'll be a decent character guy as a pro despite having been in trouble in college. Just my

 

[rizzler]

hockster, I agree the Texans have avoided off field issues in the past, but the most exciting thing about drafting Posey was that it could possibly mean that we are moving away from the squeaky clean image and accepting that some of these guys make mistakes but that doesn't mean they can't help us win a championship.

That being said, I'd be interested to see Braylon come here, but I still kind of doubt it happens.

I wouldn't read Posey as much of a move away from how they've viewed character.From comments the team has made I think they view Posey as a guy who got into trouble mainly for trying to get money when his family was in financial problems. It doesn't necessarily condone what he did, but it's a bit different than drugs arrests or fights.

The big thing for the Texans was how he handled it. They heard he came into practice all year even though he couldn't play in the games, and was apparently a great teammate during that time working with the players starting in his place. And he was apparently very forthcoming in discussing it with the team in the combine interviews and said the right things to where it didn't seem like the problems would be a repeating pattern.

I think they saw enough in how he handled the consequences that they think he'll be a decent character guy as a pro despite having been in trouble in college. Just my

soooo... yes to Braylon?

 

[Stewy]

They're pretty loaded-up at WR, as it is:

Andre Johnson

Kevin Walter

Lestar Jean

DeVier Posey

Keyshawn Martin

Dwight Jones

It's hard for me to envision any of the first five not making the team, unless Jean bombs somehow, which I see as highly unlikely. And, Jones has some serious upside potential if he can keep his head on straight.

It wouldn't hurt to bring in a veteran, but I'd hate to roster him at the expense of one of the young guys with better future potential.

 

[rizzler]

They're pretty loaded-up at WR, as it is:Andre JohnsonKevin WalterLestar JeanDeVier PoseyKeyshawn MartinDwight JonesIt's hard for me to envision any of the first five not making the team, unless Jean bombs somehow, which I see as highly unlikely. And, Jones has some serious upside potential if he can keep his head on straight.It wouldn't hurt to bring in a veteran, but I'd hate to roster him at the expense of one of the young guys with better future potential.

Edwards is only 28. "Should" be in his prime right now

 

[beef]

Posey only did what so many other tOSU players have done in the past. Only difference is that Posey got narked out.

 

[Stewy]

Edwards is only 28. "Should" be in his prime right now

I'd imagine they could get 35 catches out of Jean or Posey for a lot less money.Like I said, it wouldn't hurt to bring him in (assuming he'd go for a cheap contract) and let him compete, but I'm not of the opinion that he'd be good enough to beat out the guys that are currently on the roster.

 

[Buckna]

hockster, I agree the Texans have avoided off field issues in the past, but the most exciting thing about drafting Posey was that it could possibly mean that we are moving away from the squeaky clean image and accepting that some of these guys make mistakes but that doesn't mean they can't help us win a championship.

That being said, I'd be interested to see Braylon come here, but I still kind of doubt it happens.

I wouldn't read Posey as much of a move away from how they've viewed character.From comments the team has made I think they view Posey as a guy who got into trouble mainly for trying to get money when his family was in financial problems. It doesn't necessarily condone what he did, but it's a bit different than drugs arrests or fights.

The big thing for the Texans was how he handled it. They heard he came into practice all year even though he couldn't play in the games, and was apparently a great teammate during that time working with the players starting in his place. And he was apparently very forthcoming in discussing it with the team in the combine interviews and said the right things to where it didn't seem like the problems would be a repeating pattern.

I think they saw enough in how he handled the consequences that they think he'll be a decent character guy as a pro despite having been in trouble in college. Just my

soooo... yes to Braylon?

Not sure how a guy with DWI's, drunk & disorderly's and barfights compares at all to Posey. There was speculation last year that a suspension was coming from Goodell for Braylon because he violated his DWI parole. He kept his nose clean this past year, but the guy is 1 strike away. Doesn't sound like a guy the Texans are generally interested in.

 

[massraider]

They're pretty loaded-up at WR, as it is:Andre JohnsonKevin WalterLestar JeanDeVier PoseyKeyshawn MartinDwight Jones

That's "loaded"? Anyway, I think your point may still stand. Because Braylon blows. And has blown, for most of the last 6 years. I feel bad for people that keep.hoping for this turd.

 

[GregR]

hockster, I agree the Texans have avoided off field issues in the past, but the most exciting thing about drafting Posey was that it could possibly mean that we are moving away from the squeaky clean image and accepting that some of these guys make mistakes but that doesn't mean they can't help us win a championship.

That being said, I'd be interested to see Braylon come here, but I still kind of doubt it happens.

I wouldn't read Posey as much of a move away from how they've viewed character.From comments the team has made I think they view Posey as a guy who got into trouble mainly for trying to get money when his family was in financial problems. It doesn't necessarily condone what he did, but it's a bit different than drugs arrests or fights.

The big thing for the Texans was how he handled it. They heard he came into practice all year even though he couldn't play in the games, and was apparently a great teammate during that time working with the players starting in his place. And he was apparently very forthcoming in discussing it with the team in the combine interviews and said the right things to where it didn't seem like the problems would be a repeating pattern.

I think they saw enough in how he handled the consequences that they think he'll be a decent character guy as a pro despite having been in trouble in college. Just my

soooo... yes to Braylon?

If they can sign him to a cap friendly deal I don't have a problem with bringing him come into camp to compete. Though we do see more rookie WRs contributing early, it still could take a year or two before Posey, Martin or Jean are ready to take on a contributing role (assuming any of the three make it to that point). So he could help bridge the gap, sure.

 

[Reaper]

They're pretty loaded-up at WR, as it is:

Andre Johnson

Kevin Walter

Lestar Jean

DeVier Posey

Keyshawn Martin

Dwight Jones

That's "loaded"? Anyway, I think your point may still stand. Because Braylon blows. And has blown, for most of the last 6 years. I feel bad for people that keep.hoping for this turd.

Are you taking Fantasy wise?

Cuz on the field he made the Jets offense a lot better than it was when he left and actually put up 900 yards and 7 TDS playing with Mark Freaking Sanchez.......

Jets fans were pretty happy and every fan I know would have taken him back before they drafted a WR.

 

[massraider]

They're pretty loaded-up at WR, as it is:

Andre Johnson

Kevin Walter

Lestar Jean

DeVier Posey

Keyshawn Martin

Dwight Jones

That's "loaded"? Anyway, I think your point may still stand. Because Braylon blows. And has blown, for most of the last 6 years. I feel bad for people that keep.hoping for this turd.

Are you taking Fantasy wise?

Cuz on the field he made the Jets offense a lot better than it was when he left and actually put up 900 yards and 7 TDS playing with Mark Freaking Sanchez.......

Jets fans were pretty happy and every fan I know would have taken him back before they drafted a WR.

As I said, he has blown for MOST of the last 6 years.And I am talking real football and fantasy. This being a fantasy message board, I think people are wondering if he can perform fantasy-wise.

 

[dhockster]

They're pretty loaded-up at WR, as it is:Andre JohnsonKevin WalterLestar JeanDeVier PoseyKeyshawn MartinDwight JonesIt's hard for me to envision any of the first five not making the team, unless Jean bombs somehow, which I see as highly unlikely. And, Jones has some serious upside potential if he can keep his head on straight.It wouldn't hurt to bring in a veteran, but I'd hate to roster him at the expense of one of the young guys with better future potential.

Loaded? Andre Johnson - All Pro starting the downside of his career. Missed half of last season due to injuryKevin Walter - Mediocre 2nd receiver, probably better as slot, 3rd receiver if the Texans had a true #2.Lestar JeanDevier PoseyKeyshawn MartinDwight JohesFour guys who have never been in my kitchen, nor played in the NFL. Yes, those guys all have upside, but I don't think they are all going to realize that this year. The Texans need some veteran presence that they can rely on. After all, the Texans are no longer building for the future. They have a shot to win now, and they need to take advantage of that. One or two of those guys will probably be stored on the practice squad.

 

[rizzler]

texans are far from loaded at WR.

unless you simply mean "loaded" as in have a lot of available players. Quality wise, loaded ain't the word.

Braylon is a perfect signing for where they are now

 

[Reaper]

They're pretty loaded-up at WR, as it is:

Andre Johnson

Kevin Walter

Lestar Jean

DeVier Posey

Keyshawn Martin

Dwight Jones

That's "loaded"? Anyway, I think your point may still stand. Because Braylon blows. And has blown, for most of the last 6 years. I feel bad for people that keep.hoping for this turd.

Are you taking Fantasy wise?

Cuz on the field he made the Jets offense a lot better than it was when he left and actually put up 900 yards and 7 TDS playing with Mark Freaking Sanchez.......

Jets fans were pretty happy and every fan I know would have taken him back before they drafted a WR.

As I said, he has blown for MOST of the last 6 years.And I am talking real football and fantasy. This being a fantasy message board, I think people are wondering if he can perform fantasy-wise.

I think the issue that muddies the perception is that he didn't live up to his Draft status but, unfortunately he also never played with a decent QB or offense his entire career.

To me, he's matured. He works his tail off, He blocks. His last healthy year was 900+ yards and in the AFCCG.

So, yeah, as a top draft pick he BLEW for most of his career compared to that standard but, now as a #2 WR somewhere could he put up 900/7 again? CERTAINLY!

And the teams looking at him now would be thrilled with anything near that. I think a team that signs him now is going to get a Mature Veteran and the complete opposite of what someone would think based off the chatter....

The past 2 years in NY I saw Braylon and Plax play the same role and I'll tell you one thing, Plax wasn't even on the same planet other than a Big Red Zone target.

We're talking a guy you can sign now for I believe the 1 Million dollar 1 year deal like he got last year - Chump change.

I think the Jets regretted not keeping him but, foolishly jumped at Holmes and then fell for Plax and it was hard for braylon to come back to NY for peanuts after Holmes got 50 Million and Braylon knew Holmes wasn't 49 Million dollars better.

 

[GregR]

They're pretty loaded-up at WR, as it is:

Andre Johnson

Kevin Walter

Lestar Jean

DeVier Posey

Keyshawn Martin

Dwight Jones

It's hard for me to envision any of the first five not making the team, unless Jean bombs somehow, which I see as highly unlikely. And, Jones has some serious upside potential if he can keep his head on straight.

It wouldn't hurt to bring in a veteran, but I'd hate to roster him at the expense of one of the young guys with better future potential.

Loaded? Andre Johnson - All Pro starting the downside of his career. Missed half of last season due to injury

Kevin Walter - Mediocre 2nd receiver, probably better as slot, 3rd receiver if the Texans had a true #2.

Lestar Jean

Devier Posey

Keyshawn Martin

Dwight Johes

Four guys who have never been in my kitchen, nor played in the NFL. Yes, those guys all have upside, but I don't think they are all going to realize that this year. The Texans need some veteran presence that they can rely on. After all, the Texans are no longer building for the future. They have a shot to win now, and they need to take advantage of that. One or two of those guys will probably be stored on the practice squad.

God bless you for that reference.

 

[Stewy]

That's "loaded"? Anyway, I think your point may still stand. Because Braylon blows. And has blown, for most of the last 6 years. I feel bad for people that keep.hoping for this turd.

I didn't say "loaded." I said "loaded-up." As in, full of players.IOW, they have a lot of players at the position that would make the roster before Edwards because (a) they're clearly better (see: Andre Johnson), (b) cap implications (see: Kevin Walter), (c ) the player was just drafted/signed (see: Posey, Martin, and Jones), and/or (d) the player is presumably cheaper and expected to be comparable or better (see: Lestar Jean).As I've said twice before, he'd be fine to bring into camp on a cheap deal. But, he'd have to play exceptionally well to beat out a couple of guys already on the roster, because it's doubtful they'd be able to sneak any of those WR onto the PS. Hell, Jean got stashed on the IR because of it last season.

 

[coolnerd]

(on at which positions he would like to sign additional veterans before training camp) “Well, (general manager) Rick (Smith) and I were talking this morning a little bit and I think quarterback still concerns me. I think I’d like to sign a fourth guy. With (QB) Matt (Schaub) being out, with the 90-player roster, I think there’s room for that guy. Even though training camps are pretty much one a day now, but I think we’ve got room for a guy to get some reps, so we’re working on that. Other than that, maybe continue to look at the receiver standpoint. If you look at our receiving group going into camp, we feel good about it, but there’s not a lot of experience in the group.”

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Quotes-McNair-Kubiak-Schaub-at-golf-tourney/6aeca207-6934-4a58-9c32-06c679a5f531

 

[dhockster]

They're pretty loaded-up at WR, as it is:

Andre Johnson

Kevin Walter

Lestar Jean

DeVier Posey

Keyshawn Martin

Dwight Jones

It's hard for me to envision any of the first five not making the team, unless Jean bombs somehow, which I see as highly unlikely. And, Jones has some serious upside potential if he can keep his head on straight.

It wouldn't hurt to bring in a veteran, but I'd hate to roster him at the expense of one of the young guys with better future potential.

Loaded? Andre Johnson - All Pro starting the downside of his career. Missed half of last season due to injury

Kevin Walter - Mediocre 2nd receiver, probably better as slot, 3rd receiver if the Texans had a true #2.

Lestar Jean

Devier Posey

Keyshawn Martin

Dwight Johes

Four guys who have never been in my kitchen, nor played in the NFL. Yes, those guys all have upside, but I don't think they are all going to realize that this year. The Texans need some veteran presence that they can rely on. After all, the Texans are no longer building for the future. They have a shot to win now, and they need to take advantage of that. One or two of those guys will probably be stored on the practice squad.

God bless you for that reference.

When in doubt, always go to the Cliff Clavin "Jeopardy" card.

 

[dhockster]

That's "loaded"? Anyway, I think your point may still stand. Because Braylon blows. And has blown, for most of the last 6 years. I feel bad for people that keep.hoping for this turd.

I didn't say "loaded." I said "loaded-up." As in, full of players.IOW, they have a lot of players at the position that would make the roster before Edwards because (a) they're clearly better (see: Andre Johnson), (b) cap implications (see: Kevin Walter), (c ) the player was just drafted/signed (see: Posey, Martin, and Jones), and/or (d) the player is presumably cheaper and expected to be comparable or better (see: Lestar Jean).As I've said twice before, he'd be fine to bring into camp on a cheap deal. But, he'd have to play exceptionally well to beat out a couple of guys already on the roster, because it's doubtful they'd be able to sneak any of those WR onto the PS. Hell, Jean got stashed on the IR because of it last season.

Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant by loaded-up. I think of the 4 inexperienced players, you hope 2 stick and become productive NFL players. After all, you are talking about a 3rd round pick (that some say was a reach), a 4th round pick, and 2 undrafted FA's. That leaves a spot for someone like Braylon. I agree, if he is cheap bring him in. I think he will end up getting significant playing time, with the upside being he becomes a dynamic #2 receiver, and Kevin Walter becomes a very good #3/slot WR.

 

[houndirish]

Is there any reason to believe that Edwards signing with the Texans is imminent? I'm missing something here.

That being said, I don't think Braylon will be expensive wherever he ends up so the Texans would be foolish not to make an offer. Edwards has the look of a player that will get an incentive deal. It's hard to argue he's not top three on the WR list on that squad.

 

[gandalas]

Posey only did what so many other tOSU college players have done in the past. Only difference is that Posey got narked out.

Fixed, unless you think this stuff only goes on at Ohio state.

 

[coolnerd]

Is there any reason to believe that Edwards signing with the Texans is imminent? I'm missing something here.That being said, I don't think Braylon will be expensive wherever he ends up so the Texans would be foolish not to make an offer. Edwards has the look of a player that will get an incentive deal. It's hard to argue he's not top three on the WR list on that squad.

Pure specualtion thread..more than 'character" thing the Texans really don't evaluate "name" players as highly as the public does. When they sign a veteran, I am expecting ti to be very udisappointing to the general Texand and pro footbal fa. Edwards would be the upset.

 

[amnesiac]

the Niners didn't want him back, but signed Moss?

um, ok?

good luck, Braylon.

 

[squistion]

Latest on Braylon from Rotoworld:

Braylon Edwards still rehabbing knee injury

The Cincinnati Enquirer confirms free agent Braylon Edwards is still rehabbing the knee injury that limited him for a majority of 2011.

The torn right meniscus Edwards suffered in Week 2 last season was the main reason he appeared in only nine games. It's a major concern that the injury is still lingering, and explains why Edwards has made zero visits since the beginning of free agency. ESPN's Adam Schefter reported Monday that the Bengals and Jets are interested in Edwards, and Bengals beat writer Joe Reedy "wouldn’t be surprised" if Edwards ended up in Cincinnati. Reedy doesn't expect any potential signing to happen before June, however.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/233010/braylon-edwards-still-rehabbing-knee-injury

 

[Reaper]

From BE's Tweets:

What team do YOU want to see me play with this year???

@OfficialBraylon the Houston oilers?

Me & Warren Moon would dominate LOL RT @MikebWV:

Good interesting responses. Stay patient, I'm back to the workouts but I'll be sure to talk your ideas over with my agent @ochocinco lol

 

[rizzler]

From BE's Tweets:Me & Warren Moon would dominate LOL RT @MikebWV:

Who can doubt that? The best QB he's had was Derek freakin' Anderson, and he put up some pretties there.Schaub or Dalton would help him big time.