Breaking News - Terrell Owens Rushed to local hospital (1 Viewer)

[Bankerguy]

1530 AM here in Austin interviewed the reporter who broke the story, i think here name was Rebecca Lopez??

she's definitely sticking by her story, she kept harping on the fact that she's been a police reporter forever and sees hundreds of police reports every year and that they are rarely wrong. she basically called Etheridge a liar.

On the Channel 8 6:00 news, the reporter had an update about 2 recent "traumatic events" in T.O.'s life:1) He was not allowed to see his son on his 7th birthday, which was Monday

2) He and his girlfriend just broke up this week

This info came from his personal trainer.[/b

The police and the reporter are standing by their story. I think T.O. is telling the truth, too, but not revealing the whole story.

My guess is that he WAS depressed after these traumatic events, and took some extra pills to show his girlfriend and I guess the mother of his son how much those events affected him. I don't think he was trying to kill himself, but was trying to "harm himself." The police report didn't say they asked if he was trying to kill himself -- only if he was trying to harm himself. The painkillers and supplements may have affected his thinking some, too. His depressed state of mind could have made him take an action to harm himself with the pills, but he probably knew it wasn't going to kill him, especially with his publicist right there to call 911. They probably did some other procedure and didn't need to pump his stomach.

I'm sure many who've been through a breakup have had similar short-term depression where they've tried to harm themselves as a call out to the person who left them. I believe T.O. was also telling the truth this afternoon when he said he isn't depressed, as he's probably in a better state of mind now than he was last night, right after the two "traumatic events." I don't think he's at risk of a suicide attempt. I'm sure he did get the attention of his ex- and the mother of his son, which may have been the goal of his action.

I think if this is the true scenario, T.O.'s statements could be the truth, though incomplete, and the police report could be true as well. I'm not sure about the accuracy of the publicist's statements.

This is pure speculation, but after hearing the report on those 2 events this week, combined with the medication and supplements, it makes sense to me.

ARTICLE: T.O.'s trainer rejects attempted suicide theory... discusses hand treatment --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted: Sep.27, 2006, 2:12 pm EDT

By Mike Chiappetta

NBCSports.com

James "Buddy" Primm has been at Terrell Owens' side for several years as his personal trainer. They met after Owens' 1999 season, and Primm helped the then-49ers wideout transform from what he called a "skinny kid" to the physical specimen and perennial Pro Bowler starring for the Dallas Cowboys. Owens has called Primm the "foundation" for his career.

When Owens had to return from a broken bone to play in the Super Bowl, Primm was the man who nursed him along. And though Primm wasn't in Dallas during Owens' recent hospitalization, the man who is part of T.O's inner circle says he knows the Cowboys' receiver well enough to doubt T.O. would ever try to take his life.

"No. No way he'd ever do that," he said. "The guy doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't even take painkillers."

Primm said he's spoken to Owens since being hospitalized and that he seemed normal. He added that he'll be heading to Dallas to be with T.O.

"Just seemed normal on everything. Freaked out? Scared? No, nothing. He just went through something traumatic, and we'll get it together, and he'll be OK."

People inside Owens' camp suggested that his mixing of painkillers and nutritional supplements caused a bad reaction. Primm agrees with the likelihood, believing the fact that Owens does not drink alcohol or normally use pain medication would make him more susceptible to such a reaction.

"It could happen easy," he said. "People need to know that that his system is so sensitive. Have you ever been out with a friend who takes one drink and is knocked out because he doesn't normally drink? That could be what happened on this deal. His body is so sensitive."

Primm said that while Owens usually takes five or six supplements such as multivitamins and multi-minerals, he has recently upped his supplement intake to more than 20 to help heal his finger. He also undergoes micro-current therapy on his finger, a treatment which helped him return from a broken ankle in six weeks to play in Super Bowl XXXIX. Micro-current is electrical stimulant administered at different frequencies to help the cells eliminate scar tissue while increasing blood flow. Owens' workout routines are so advanced, Primm refers to them as "Star Wars" techniques.

"It's a totally different ballgame with him. You can take some of those horse medications like players used in the '60s to come back, but those affect your motor skills. He's able to come back because we use different technologies. That's how he came back from that leg. That was absolutely amazing. So he's really taken hardly any painkillers ever. So it will affect his system since he wouldn't normally even take it."

Primm believes that from a physical standpoint, Owens is nearly ready to return.

"I want that finger right, and then he'll go. He could probably play right now if he had to. Right now it's just emotional trauma, but I know that's going to get cleared up. "I'm going to make a positive out of a negative. Everybody loves Terrell.

"I'm going to go out (to Dallas) and make sure we're back in structure. But as far as the games, I want him in the Tennessee game."

LINK

 

[Couch Potato]

BREAKING NEWS-TO farts. ESPN says he crapped his pants. Publicist says TO got ahold of some bad Chili but offered no further comment. Fantasy owners contemplate fantasy implications. More later....

1. Not close to funny.2. In poor taste.3. Good way to get noticed by the mods in a bad way.

I don't see it... TO is now healthy and ok, and this guy is making light of the over-reaction of media coverage... Bad taste if he was fighting for his life but now just a bad attempt at humor, relax.

I didn't mean it was in poor taste in relation to the attempted suicide story, I meant poor taste with the use of farting and crapping pants as humor. It's stuff I'd expect from a 6th grader.

 

[Skinsfansince72]

BREAKING NEWS-TO farts. ESPN says he crapped his pants. Publicist says TO got ahold of some bad Chili but offered no further comment. Fantasy owners contemplate fantasy implications. More later....

1. Not close to funny.2. In poor taste.3. Good way to get noticed by the mods in a bad way.

I don't see it... TO is now healthy and ok, and this guy is making light of the over-reaction of media coverage... Bad taste if he was fighting for his life but now just a bad attempt at humor, relax.

I didn't mean it was in poor taste in relation to the attempted suicide story, I meant poor taste with the use of farting and crapping pants as humor. It's stuff I'd expect from a 6th grader.

Pardon me. I forgot that there were Puritains posting. I'll keep that in mind in the future. Bet you get bent out of shape when athlets get caught smoking weed even though you and everybody you know probably smokes the sh**.

 

[NYCGangGreen]

People do take Vicodin for "recreational" use. What if TO just took a bunch to get a "buzz" , wound up getting sick and had to be rushed to the hospital?

By using the he was depressed theory...as a cover up of drug use for personal gain, of course it would lead to a suicde attempt. A depressed person takes a bunch of pills, they must have wanted to kill themself.

But could it have just been a cover-up so that he wouldn't be investigated for violating the Leagues' substance policy. Rather than be entered into the drug abuse program, his publicist comes up with a bad cover up w/o thinking of the repurcussions.

It is possible, just don't know how credible, since from what i know of TO , he treats his body like a pristine temple.

just a thought, not fact.

 

[Bankerguy]

Eagles fans are planning to chat OD OD OD when the Cowboys visit Philly. They are also planning on throwing empty pill bottles.

Heard it on WIP.

Stay classy Philly.

 

[Bankerguy]

More intersting info......

==============================================

There were two versions of a Dallas Police Department incident report on Terrell Owens' trip to a Dallas hospital emergency room. The unedited version was obtained by several Dallas-Fort Worth media outlets.

The redacted version was released by Dallas police.

Both reports are transcribed below ("RO/S" stands for responding officers; "comp" stands for complainant; "DFD" stands for Dallas Fire Department; "RP" stands for reporting person; "NFI" stands for no further information):

Unedited version

On 9/26/06 at approximately 7:51 p.m., RO/S were dispatched on a call by Dallas Fire and Rescue regarding comp attempting suicide by prescription pain medication. Upon arrival RO/S found comp being stabilized by DFD #703 in the ambulance. RO/S then responded to Baylor Hospital per DFD's request for immediate transport and treatment. RP #1 was interviewed by R/OS at Baylor Hospital. RP stated that comp stated that he was depressed. RP noticed that comp's prescription pain medication was empty and observed comp putting 2 pills in his mouth. RP attempted to put her fingers in comp's mouth to retrieve the pills. RO/S were told by RP that the prescription of 40 pills that was filled on the 18th of September, and that comp had only taken 5 pills up to this date. During an interview of the comp, comp was asked if he had taken the remainder of the prescription, at which time the comp stated, "Yes." On further interview of comp, comp was asked if he was attempting to harm himself, at which time the comp stated, "Yes." Comp was treated by Baylor Medical staff for a drug over dose. Sgt. Spila #5251 and duty commander ward were notified. NFI.

Redacted version

On 9/26/06 at approximately 7:51 p.m., RO/S were dispatched on a call by Dallas Fire and Rescue regarding comp .... Upon arrival RO/S found comp being stabilized by DFD #703 in the ambulance. RO/S then responded to Baylor Hospital per DFD's request for immediate transport and treatment. RP #1 was interviewed by R/OS at Baylor Hospital. RP stated that comp stated that ... Comp was treated by Baylor Medical staff for .... Sgt. Spila #5251 and duty commander ward were notified. NFI.

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[Billy1x]

Still no word on if the other pills were ever found. He said he took them out of the bottle and threw them in the drawer but no evidence of the missing pills has be presented. Most people do that with their pills don't they?

Remember his former teams asked him to seek help and he refused. He is suspected to be bipolar and there seems to be two seperate people living in his body. TO and Terrel Owens. One may have taken the pill and the other denied it.

The brain is a funny animal.

The good news is that TO usually shows up on Sunday.

 

[Wreckincrew]

Etheredge is half of an idiot, but she knew enough to call the police when TO obviously didn't feel well. She did the right thing.

As for the man himself, TO was self-effacing, courteous, and said exactly the right things. He is also an ASTONISHINGLY good actor if he really tried to kill himself. My favorite answer was when he smiled and explained that he was not, in fact, depressed.

ESPN's credibility is all but gone. Professor Clayton is a tool of mindboggling proportions.

LOL at all the people who still think this was a suicide attempt based on some obviously inexperienced cop's notes and TO's incoherent mumblings - - as we know, all people who drown themselves in Vike and other painkillers are regularly out running routes and catching passes from QBs the next day.

One major value point of this thread: learning who really knows what they're talking about around here, and bolstering my ignore list with some strong members thereof. I thought there were some really solid contributions - - joffer, BankerGuy, and willowdoc stand out. Thanks to those guys and everyone else who showed some sanity on an interesting day.

Yeah, those Cowboy fan poll updates have been invaluable. And the scolding of other posters who have been making light of this somber situation really seems to be paying off.

 

[Legion of Doom]

Eagles fans are planning to chat OD OD OD when the Cowboys visit Philly. They are also planning on throwing empty pill bottles.Heard it on WIP.Stay classy Philly.

Better than batteries!

 

[fatness]

More intersting info......

==============================================

There were two versions of a Dallas Police Department incident report on Terrell Owens' trip to a Dallas hospital emergency room. The unedited version was obtained by several Dallas-Fort Worth media outlets.

The redacted version was released by Dallas police.

Both reports are transcribed below ("RO/S" stands for responding officers; "comp" stands for complainant; "DFD" stands for Dallas Fire Department; "RP" stands for reporting person; "NFI" stands for no further information):

Unedited version

On 9/26/06 at approximately 7:51 p.m., RO/S were dispatched on a call by Dallas Fire and Rescue regarding comp attempting suicide by prescription pain medication. Upon arrival RO/S found comp being stabilized by DFD #703 in the ambulance. RO/S then responded to Baylor Hospital per DFD's request for immediate transport and treatment. RP #1 was interviewed by R/OS at Baylor Hospital. RP stated that comp stated that he was depressed. RP noticed that comp's prescription pain medication was empty and observed comp putting 2 pills in his mouth. RP attempted to put her fingers in comp's mouth to retrieve the pills. RO/S were told by RP that the prescription of 40 pills that was filled on the 18th of September, and that comp had only taken 5 pills up to this date. During an interview of the comp, comp was asked if he had taken the remainder of the prescription, at which time the comp stated, "Yes." On further interview of comp, comp was asked if he was attempting to harm himself, at which time the comp stated, "Yes." Comp was treated by Baylor Medical staff for a drug over dose. Sgt. Spila #5251 and duty commander ward were notified. NFI.

Redacted version

On 9/26/06 at approximately 7:51 p.m., RO/S were dispatched on a call by Dallas Fire and Rescue regarding comp .... Upon arrival RO/S found comp being stabilized by DFD #703 in the ambulance. RO/S then responded to Baylor Hospital per DFD's request for immediate transport and treatment. RP #1 was interviewed by R/OS at Baylor Hospital. RP stated that comp stated that ... Comp was treated by Baylor Medical staff for .... Sgt. Spila #5251 and duty commander ward were notified. NFI.

AP NEWS

The Associated Press News Service

Thanks for posting that. (bolding is what appears to have been removed)That doesn't look like police "backing away from" their report; it looks more like police removing information from their report.

 

[Billy Bats]

As reported by ESPN in the last week:- Cadillac Williams has hurniated discs. (Strike 1)- Matt Leinart to start against Atlanta (Strike 2)- Terrell Owens suicide attempt (Strike 3?)

Not many actual "sports journalists" left at that station anymore. Most of em are face men and ex-athletes.

Were they the ones who started Westbrook's bone on bone knee problems? Not sure who the first to report that story.

 

[chris1969]

2 scenarios I can think of...

1) He tried to commit suicide.

2) He pretended to commit suicide. In that case, the ex-girlfriend is probably RP1.

I'm 50/50 on which one is true.

 

[Skinsfansince72]

As reported by ESPN in the last week:- Cadillac Williams has hurniated discs. (Strike 1)- Matt Leinart to start against Atlanta (Strike 2)- Terrell Owens suicide attempt (Strike 3?)

Not many actual "sports journalists" left at that station anymore. Most of em are face men and ex-athletes.

Were they the ones who started Westbrook's bone on bone knee problems? Not sure who the first to report that story.

If he had "bone on bone" he wouldn't be playing football. He'd be getting a knee replacement. Re the Leinert story-they still won't admit that they issued a false report. All they did was come back and say that Denny "changed his mind". Fact is, Green never said Leinert was starting in the first place and thus didn't "change his mind".

 

[Bri]

this thread will never die

 

[Skinsfansince72]

Still no word on if the other pills were ever found. He said he took them out of the bottle and threw them in the drawer but no evidence of the missing pills has be presented. Most people do that with their pills don't they?Remember his former teams asked him to seek help and he refused. He is suspected to be bipolar and there seems to be two seperate people living in his body. TO and Terrel Owens. One may have taken the pill and the other denied it.The brain is a funny animal.The good news is that TO usually shows up on Sunday.

I'm hoping Terrell Owens shows up on sunday.

 

[Skinsfansince72]

this thread will never die

This thread and TO have something in common.

 

[ChampBailey24]

Ok...anyone can resume what's happening with TO please?

 

[chris1969]

Still no word on if the other pills were ever found. He said he took them out of the bottle and threw them in the drawer but no evidence of the missing pills has be presented. Most people do that with their pills don't they?Remember his former teams asked him to seek help and he refused. He is suspected to be bipolar and there seems to be two seperate people living in his body. TO and Terrel Owens. One may have taken the pill and the other denied it.The brain is a funny animal.The good news is that TO usually shows up on Sunday.

I'm hoping Terrell Owens shows up on sunday.

Me too! at a mental hospital.

 

[mbuehner]

Ah, so now the meme is 'where are the pills'? Think about it for a second, if TO shows up at the press conference waving a bunch of pills around, does that make him look better, or worse? The overdose faction is taking on conspiratorial tones- anything TO did or did not do can prove their 'case'. TO doesnt produce pills? Its a scam. He does produce pills? Oh, you can get those anywhere... and god knows he's between Rosenhaus, the Cowboys, and his PR people they can get ahold of some vicadin for show and tell in a timely fashion. Seriously, if TO shows up waving his pills around at cowboys HQ, do you guys go, "ah, that explains everything then. We owe Terrell an apology." SURE.

 

[joffer]

just played basketball at a GB's house and we watched an hour of NFL network coverage on the TO situation afterward. i couldn't believe the difference after watching ESPN all day. the NFL network coverage was actually......what's the word......objective???

 

[chris1969]

Ah, so now the meme is 'where are the pills'? Think about it for a second, if TO shows up at the press conference waving a bunch of pills around, does that make him look better, or worse? The overdose faction is taking on conspiratorial tones- anything TO did or did not do can prove their 'case'. TO doesnt produce pills? Its a scam. He does produce pills? Oh, you can get those anywhere... and god knows he's between Rosenhaus, the Cowboys, and his PR people they can get ahold of some vicadin for show and tell in a timely fashion. Seriously, if TO shows up waving his pills around at cowboys HQ, do you guys go, "ah, that explains everything then. We owe Terrell an apology." SURE.

I'm pretty sure TO is not normally medicated, but he should be.

 

[One]

TO's dynasty value just took a hit.

 

[TitusIII]

Put this thread out of its misery...

 

[mbuehner]

Here's my personal recap: Whats more realistic:

-Guy who doesnt drink or do drugs pops a few pain killers- maybe a few too many than is prescibed even, and gets groggy and loopy. His nitwit assistant notices an empty bottle, puts 2 & 2 together and gets 5, and calls 911 in a panic. Cops hear 'pain killers', 'empty bottle', and 'loopy' and combined with the panic of the nitwit make a bad assumption. TO gets to the hospital, a few hours later the Vic wears off, he goes home, turns up for work the next day, plays football, gives an interview.

OR

-A classic narcisist who is also a multi-millionaire celebrity decides to end it all/get some really idiotic attention (even by his standards) a week and a half before his gigantic spotlight Revenge/comeback game he's been talking about for months. He downs 35 vicodin and instead of losing consciousness and going into a coma, he takes a nice ride to the emergency room. Instead of stopping breathing, being intubated, and having his stomach pumped, he chats with some policeman at the hospital. Instead of spending the next day either in the worlds worst hangover, in a coma, or having a liver transplant, he goes to work and plays football.

Tough one, I must admit.

 

[SlaX]

Put this thread out of its misery...

I don't think there's anything of substance that can be added here tonight. And there hasn't been anything since the 3:30 press conference.

 

[poopdawg]

Anyone else find it wierd that DEION SANDERS was taking questions at his house??!! Either the guy OD'd or he had too much fun Monday night. Something aint kosher.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

I just don't buy TO and his publicist's story.

His publicist is full of crap...Yeah the Police lied..Yah right..She made a fool out of herself...The police report is public information, would like to see the press get ahold of that..

She definitly lied. No way in hell the police would EVER lie.

Not saying the Police never lie, but why would they lie about what she said. What would they get out of that?? Her story is obviously full of holes..

Couldn't it be that DPD just f'ed up? To me, that's the simplest, most logical explanation.I'm not one to put cops above lying, but why is it that one side or the other has to be lying?

Wait a second: you think the DPD F*ed up? That's the most "logical explanation"? Seriously? Did you watch the PR person skirt the questions? Where am I?

Errr...did you watch the DPD spokesperson at that PC? If anyone was worse than TO's PR chick, it was that dude...and it wasn't close.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

LOL at all the people who still think this was a suicide attempt based on some obviously inexperienced cop's notes and TO's incoherent mumblings - - as we know, all people who drown themselves in Vike and other painkillers are regularly out running routes and catching passes from QBs the next day.One major value point of this thread: learning who really knows what they're talking about around here, and bolstering my ignore list with some strong members thereof. I thought there were some really solid contributions - - joffer, BankerGuy, and willowdoc stand out. Thanks to those guys and everyone else who showed some sanity on an interesting day.

What made it so obvious there was an inexperienced cop and the blame is his vs the info received tfrom the 911 caller?

You don't know what info was received from the caller. You won't unless they release that tape.

 

[Couch Potato]

New story on recent events which have been troubling TO, as told by trainer.

STORY

Trainer: Recent events caused strain

10:44 PM CDT on Wednesday, September 27, 2006

By MICHAEL GRANBERRY / The Dallas Morning News

Terrell Owens' longtime personal trainer said Wednesday that "a perfect storm" of physically and emotionally devastating events conspired to put the superstar receiver into a tailspin that resulted in a trip to the emergency room Tuesday.

Those events also generated what the trainer called "erroneous" reports of a suicide attempt.

"A lot of things were coming to a head anyway, and then this happened," said James "Buddy" Primm, 55, who until earlier this month, had been living with Owens in his loft on Commerce Street, in the shadow of Fair Park.

Primm said Owens underwent two traumatic events Monday involving his 7-year-old son and fiancée, a woman he has dated for three years.

Owens' son, from a previous relationship, celebrated his 7th birthday Monday, said Primm. Owens was distraught, he said, about not being able to be see his son , who lives in California.

"He wanted to get together with the boy," said Primm. "But the boy could not come here, and Terrell could not go there."

Then hours later, a woman whom Primm described as Owens' fiancée broke off their relationship . Primm declined to give the woman's last name but said she and Owens had been dating for three years. She also lives in California.

"That's been coming on forever," Primm said of the breakup. "She's not a bad girl. She's cool, she's fine. He said, 'Can I take a break from the engagement?' And she said, 'No, let's just put a stop to it.' And that was a complete surprise to Terrell."

The loquacious Primm, who lives in Duluth, Ga., near Owens' off-season residence in Atlanta, has known the Cowboys receiver for seven years. They met when Owens played for the San Francisco 49ers, "exactly 16 weeks before he stood on the star" during a game at Texas Stadium.

That happened during the 2000 season, and since then says Primm, the two have forged a father-son-like relationship that he says Owens seems to need. Growing up in abject poverty in rural Alabama, Owens was raised by his mother and grandmother and, according to Primm, has long been in need of a dominant male figure in his life.

"He's getting to be like my son," said Primm, who returned to his home in Georgia last week. He said he plans to return to Dallas in the next few days to be with Owens.

Owens "doesn't have many friends," said the trainer, who contends that the public and news media have long misperceived a man he considers "a gentle soul" and a "caring, highly sensitive" individual with a fragile psyche.

"He's a good person," said Primm. "A very good person."

Primm said he had been in touch with Owens and with members of his inner circle on Wednesday, and, after hearing the chronology of Tuesday's events, understood why and how the incident took place and that suicide wasn't an issue.

"He probably took the pain medication and fell off to sleep," said Primm. "Then when he gets up, of course he's going to be weird."

Before arriving at the Cowboys' practice facility at Valley Ranch on Tuesday, Owens spent the morning addressing students at a local high school about the perils of domestic abuse and how it's not their fault should their parents choose to fight.

"It's an issue he cares about," said Primm.

Owens reported to the Cowboys' practice facility at 11:30 a.m. and worked out "hard," Mr. Primm said, catching "bullets" from quarterbacks Drew Bledsoe and Tony Romo for the first time since undergoing surgery on his broken right hand last week.

And for the first time since the surgery, the trainer said Owens felt serious pain, noting that until Tuesday night, Owens had not been on a regular routine of taking pain medication "because he hadn't needed to."

The receiver left Valley Ranch around 4 p.m. Tuesday and drove home in rush-hour traffic, arriving at his Exposition Park loft around 5:30 p.m.

That's when the physical trauma began.

At Primm's direction, Owens had been taking about 30 supplements a day, up from his normal six, "to accelerate the healing process," the trainer said. The supplements included "all different types of calcium, all different types of magnesium ... a few different types of glandulars," said Primm. "Things for the immune system, to get blood to that area."

He said he had also been using a $40,000 laser device on Owens' injury.

"Five minutes on the bottom of the hand, five minutes on the top" first thing in the morning, said Primm. That, too, had accelerated the healing process, he said, in addition to another device, about the size of a breadbox, into which Owens would insert a gloved hand wrapped in a towel to help "dissolve scar tissue."

Primm said that, even under normal circumstances, the machine designed to remove scar tissue in the hand "just knocks you out. It makes you sleepy."

He said the machine has the dual effect of "getting rid of scar tissue and of cells the body isn't using." Such therapy is vital, he said, in allowing bones to heal as rapidly as possible.

It was Primm who introduced Owens to such devices and to the hyperbaric chamber, which he said enabled the player to play in Super Bowl XXXIX in February 2005 for the Philadelphia Eagles, despite suffering a broken leg only weeks before.

But the combination of this week's events was apparently too much, the trainer said.

As for what comes next, Primm predicts Owens will play Sunday against the Tennessee Titans. And how will he fare for the rest of the season?

"Great," the trainer said.

 

[chris1969]

I love the fact that most of you believe TO over the police.

TO sheep are at least loyal, if not that bright.

 

[onionsack]

BREAKING NEWS-TO farts. ESPN says he crapped his pants.

Publicist says TO got ahold of some bad Chili but offered no further comment.

Fantasy owners contemplate fantasy implications. More later....

1. Not close to funny.2. In poor taste.

3. Good way to get noticed by the mods in a bad way.

I don't see it... TO is now healthy and ok, and this guy is making light of the over-reaction of media coverage... Bad taste if he was fighting for his life but now just a bad attempt at humor, relax.

I didn't mean it was in poor taste in relation to the attempted suicide story, I meant poor taste with the use of farting and crapping pants as humor. It's stuff I'd expect from a 6th grader.

It's right up there with "cat drinking beer" avatars.

 

[John]

I think the guy is a phenomenal athlete. I have been watching old film from Tuskegee, Al when I was in Auburn. I hope he gets the help he needs

 

[the hairy scotsman]

Here's my personal recap: Whats more realistic:

-Guy who doesnt drink or do drugs pops a few pain killers- maybe a few too many than is prescibed even, and gets groggy and loopy. His nitwit assistant notices an empty bottle, puts 2 & 2 together and gets 5, and calls 911 in a panic. Cops hear 'pain killers', 'empty bottle', and 'loopy' and combined with the panic of the nitwit make a bad assumption. TO gets to the hospital, a few hours later the Vic wears off, he goes home, turns up for work the next day, plays football, gives an interview.

OR

-A classic narcisist who is also a multi-millionaire celebrity decides to end it all/get some really idiotic attention (even by his standards) a week and a half before his gigantic spotlight Revenge/comeback game he's been talking about for months. He downs 35 vicodin and instead of losing consciousness and going into a coma, he takes a nice ride to the emergency room. Instead of stopping breathing, being intubated, and having his stomach pumped, he chats with some policeman at the hospital. Instead of spending the next day either in the worlds worst hangover, in a coma, or having a liver transplant, he goes to work and plays football.

Tough one, I must admit.

Yeah, buehner. I was with ya on your last post, also a good one.Some people just won't ever get it...that the guy on tv today is not a guy who attempted suicide last night, esp by taking what they say he took.

 

[Lauryn]

BREAKING NEWS-TO farts. ESPN says he crapped his pants.

Publicist says TO got ahold of some bad Chili but offered no further comment.

Fantasy owners contemplate fantasy implications. More later....

1. Not close to funny.2. In poor taste.

3. Good way to get noticed by the mods in a bad way.

I don't see it... TO is now healthy and ok, and this guy is making light of the over-reaction of media coverage... Bad taste if he was fighting for his life but now just a bad attempt at humor, relax.

I didn't mean it was in poor taste in relation to the attempted suicide story, I meant poor taste with the use of farting and crapping pants as humor. It's stuff I'd expect from a 6th grader.

It's right up there with "cat drinking beer" avatars.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

I love the fact that most of you believe TO over the police.TO sheep are at least loyal, if not that bright.

It's not so much a matter of whom I believe. It's more a matter of whether I believe what I see, or what I am told.I've been working as a ff/emt, running calls like these for 13 years, and working with lots of cops along the way. I've seen all the PCs. I've read all the info. I've heard all the interviews.I'm here to tell you that my experience with both the Police and with patients like these, combined with all the info I've gathered in the last 24 hours leads me to one conclusion...that TO's story is far more plausible than the DPD story.I'm not saying they're lying. It could easily be a mistake or a communications breakdown (which btw, are far too common in this business)...but that is not a man who took a bunch of pain-killers last night.

 

[Couch Potato]

BREAKING NEWS-TO farts. ESPN says he crapped his pants.

Publicist says TO got ahold of some bad Chili but offered no further comment.

Fantasy owners contemplate fantasy implications. More later....

1. Not close to funny.2. In poor taste.

3. Good way to get noticed by the mods in a bad way.

I don't see it... TO is now healthy and ok, and this guy is making light of the over-reaction of media coverage... Bad taste if he was fighting for his life but now just a bad attempt at humor, relax.

I didn't mean it was in poor taste in relation to the attempted suicide story, I meant poor taste with the use of farting and crapping pants as humor. It's stuff I'd expect from a 6th grader.

It's right up there with "cat drinking beer" avatars.

Yeah, I think so too. I was in a mood earlier and it would have been better to just leave it alone.

 

[Homer]

I love the fact that most of you believe TO over the police.TO sheep are at least loyal, if not that bright.

It's not so much a matter of whom I believe. It's more a matter of whether I believe what I see, or what I am told.I've been working as a ff/emt, running calls like these for 13 years, and working with lots of cops along the way. I've seen all the PCs. I've read all the info. I've heard all the interviews.I'm here to tell you that my experience with both the Police and with patients like these, combined with all the info I've gathered in the last 24 hours leads me to one conclusion...that TO's story is far more plausible than the DPD story.I'm not saying they're lying. It could easily be a mistake or a communications breakdown (which btw, are far too common in this business)...but that is not a man who took a bunch of pain-killers last night.

Exactly. Deion pointed it out on NFL N: The cop in that press conference had a Sh-eating grin, like there was some huge GOTCHA there, and that his 25 seconds of fame was something he had been waiting for all his life.Re: believing T.O. vs. believing the C-minus average (and presumably non-POTHEAD!) students we all knew from high school-that turned-into-the-future-mark-fuhrman-wannabees-in-the-world: I'd tend to believe the superstar millionaire...

 

[BigTuna]

I love the fact that most of you believe TO over the police.TO sheep are at least loyal, if not that bright.

I don't know if I believe TO or the Police. I think it may be a moot point. Myself? I don't believe TO is depressed. I think if he was, he'd be out right now trying to finish the job that he failed to do last night. I'm not trying to argue that he doesnt have problems. He's probably just looking for attention. He definitely needs to get counseling to deal with some of these problems he has. And he is also probably one of these people that cannot handle pain pills, alcohol etc. The team should let him play as long as he gets into some counseling to deal with his erratic behavior on and off the field.

 

[SickThing]

Link

T.O. trouble remains

Given Owens' history, Dallas has more issues to face

Don Banks, SI.com

The news reports out of Dallas on Wednesday morning, conflicting as they were, had considerable shock value, even if by now we've been conditioned to expect the unexpected -- and the bizarre -- from Terrell Owens.

But this story, even by previous T.O. standards, was in a league by itself. An allergic reaction to pain medication, or a suicidal act? For most of the day, we were largely in the dark about what exactly played out Tuesday night in Owens' Dallas home. To some degree, we still are.

About the only thing that seemed clear about the drama was the Cowboys' headline-making receiver had again detonated a bombshell in the middle of his team's season.

That much, I guess, we shouldn't have been surprised about. The Cowboys signed on for that kind of ride when they gave Owens a three-year, $25 million deal in March, and this was that first precipitous drop on the rollercoaster that is life with T.O.

Owens' lingering hamstring injury and broken finger now look like meaningless blips on the screen in light of Wednesday's developments, with the accompanying day-long wall-to-wall coverage of T.O's accidental or intentional overdose. The issue this time was whether or not Owens tried to take his own life, and if so, was it the first indication that Owens is struggling with personal demons that extend to a level previously unknown?

Amateur psychologists were everywhere in the media on Wednesday, dissecting Owens' background, his possible mental state, and his will to live. Topics none of us were all that informed about. Not that that slows down the thirst for instant analysis in today's Internet-driven news cycle. Talk first and backtrack later is the mantra that prevails.

Still, if indeed Owens tried to harm himself -- which was an elusive determination to make on Wednesday -- that particular turn of events did not take those in the Philadelphia Eagles organization by complete surprise. There were those in Philly who feared that Owens' well-known reputation for volatile mood swings could result in something far more serious than his penchant for tirades, outrageous stunts and creating distractions.

Last spring I talked to members of the organization who admitted that during last year's long and arduous T.O. saga, the club came to view Owens' behavior as consistent with one who was in need of mental treatment and evaluation. The Eagles believed his issues went far beyond being an egocentric athlete and inveterate attention seeker, and was an indication of serious mental and emotional issues at play. Issues they suggested could be addressed in counseling. To no avail, however, because Owens dismissed such suggestions out of hand.

But despite that pertinent background, I'm just not sure Owens' potential issues truly came into play with Wednesday's story. In his mid-afternoon news conference from the Cowboys' complex, he offered a rather plausible explanation for the confusion that surrounded his status last night and early this morning. He took too many painkillers, had an adverse reaction, and that led to a chain of events that spiraled out of control as the Owens Watch again held the sports world -- and a certain four-letter all-sports TV network -- hostage.

In some ways, it was the perfect storm of a story: One part Owens being Owens, and making news and drawing attention to himself no matter what he does; one part perhaps an understandable overreaction to the situation by his publicist Kim Etheredge, who's real role should be cleared up when the 911 tape is released; and one part the media's rush to judgment and over-fascination with Owens and his every move.

By the end of a confusing day, Owens had moved all the way from suicide watch to dealing with questions about whether he'll practice Thursday and potentially play in the Cowboys' game at Tennessee on Sunday. Such was the surreal factor at work in this story. (One quick aside: Why would the Cowboys risk playing him against the winless Titans, in a game they should be able to win without him, when their upcoming and far more significant Week 5 game at Philadelphia looms?)

That Owens found time to squeeze in a few practice receptions, catching passes from both Drew Bledsoe and Tony Romo, prior to making his news conference appearance certainly buttressed the perception that all was well with Owens. Cowboys quarterbacks coach Chris Palmer told me Wednesday afternoon that he noticed nothing out of the ordinary from Owens the previous day.

"We were in a meeting yesterday, and he was upbeat, he was positive, and being one of the guys,'' Palmer said. "He was joking around in the meeting, joking with the quarterbacks. I didn't see any signs of trouble.''

Here's hoping that Owens' only health issue really is his broken ring finger and that Tuesday night was just an unfortunate confluence of circumstances. But experience tells us that with Owens, trouble of some sort always seems just a news cycle away.

If the Cowboys somehow didn't realize that before, they probably do now after this week's surprising turn of events, which will serve to produce a whole new wave of Owens-inspired coverage and feed the frenzy that is all-T.O., all the time. With Owens, there's always a new twist. Even if we have learned to expect the unexpected.

 

[roadkill1292]

BREAKING NEWS-TO farts. ESPN says he crapped his pants.

Publicist says TO got ahold of some bad Chili but offered no further comment.

Fantasy owners contemplate fantasy implications. More later....

1. Not close to funny.2. In poor taste.

3. Good way to get noticed by the mods in a bad way.

I don't see it... TO is now healthy and ok, and this guy is making light of the over-reaction of media coverage... Bad taste if he was fighting for his life but now just a bad attempt at humor, relax.

I didn't mean it was in poor taste in relation to the attempted suicide story, I meant poor taste with the use of farting and crapping pants as humor. It's stuff I'd expect from a 6th grader.

It's right up there with "cat drinking beer" avatars.

Yeah, I think so too. I was in a mood earlier and it would have been better to just leave it alone.

No prob, Couch. Some of us are just pretty sensitive when our God-given right to farting and crapping pants jokes are threatened. Let's face it, there'd be no FFA without them.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Here's my personal recap: Whats more realistic:

-Guy who doesnt drink or do drugs pops a few pain killers- maybe a few too many than is prescibed even, and gets groggy and loopy. His nitwit assistant notices an empty bottle, puts 2 & 2 together and gets 5, and calls 911 in a panic. Cops hear 'pain killers', 'empty bottle', and 'loopy' and combined with the panic of the nitwit make a bad assumption. TO gets to the hospital, a few hours later the Vic wears off, he goes home, turns up for work the next day, plays football, gives an interview.

OR

-A classic narcisist who is also a multi-millionaire celebrity decides to end it all/get some really idiotic attention (even by his standards) a week and a half before his gigantic spotlight Revenge/comeback game he's been talking about for months. He downs 35 vicodin and instead of losing consciousness and going into a coma, he takes a nice ride to the emergency room. Instead of stopping breathing, being intubated, and having his stomach pumped, he chats with some policeman at the hospital. Instead of spending the next day either in the worlds worst hangover, in a coma, or having a liver transplant, he goes to work and plays football.

Tough one, I must admit.

 

[Banger]

Wow, this is still going on??

 

[aardball44]

I was willing to give TO the benefit of the doubt on what exactly went down Tuesday night. This latest news -- not seeing his son for his 7th birthday, having a three-year relationship broken off by his fiancee the same day -- clouds the issue as much as it could have clouded his mood and his thinking.

It's clear he made a mistake. That mistake was either:

a) treating his meds like they were spare change or Halloween candy, to be tossed anywhere (including down his throat), or

b) allowing a very bad day to lead him to make very bad decisions.

 

[ceo3west]

Wow, this is still going on??

This isn't about football. This should be moved to FFA.

 

[Ahmad Rashad]

FWIW, the Dallas police chief came on the Ticket radio station and stood by the police report. When asked about Etheridge's denials, he said that was to be expected.

 

[mbuehner]

Guys... the police report may be entirely accurate. The vast bulk of it is simply relaying what the PR girl told them. It would be like if the cops broke up a domestic dispute and you only looked at one sides statement. That doesnt mean the cops are drawing those conclusions. The only thing the cops observed was asking TO in the hospital if he was trying to harm himself. No-one is disputing TO was disoriented, so it is plausible he misunderstood the question or was confused. The cops did not SEE Owens take any pills. They didnt see him having a medical emergency- the police report indicated it was the PR girls request that he be moved to the ER. If he unresponsive they wouldnt have asked. This has nothing to do with who to believe. The two stories are not mutually exclusive.

At the end of the day it doesnt really matter who you believe. The scientific evidence is that TO doesnt appear to be a man who took 35 vicodin. The hospital didnt treat him that way either.

 

[Family Matters]

This may have been asked but what happened to HIPPA? Why doesn't TO have the same legal rights and expectation to privacy regarding his medical records/condition as others?

The reason I ask is that this is the law. In order to have his records made avaible or to even speak on it he has to sign a HIPPA waiver to allow them to do so. And I can assure you he didn't sign anything that allows unautorized persons to see or speak about his medical records/condition ouside of those responsible for is medical attention. And the press isn't one of them.

Now before you reply that he's a public figure, high profile athlete and we have a right to everything, I respectfully disagree. You see high profile college athletes protected by their privacy rights regardless of the media's insistence on wanting more than they are entitled to. The line has been crossed on this IMHO.

At this point it's not about TO anymore. It's about speculation and stretching some opinions into contorted conclusions. After reading numerous articles and listening to all the talking heads of the sports world, it sounds like they feel they are entitled to the truth and/or facts of what happened. Entitled? Are you kidding me? No one is entitled to anyone's medical records especially when he's admitted to the hospital or potentially being treated for a physicalogical condition if that's what it is. This is one the last right's of privacy we truely have and it seems that many have taken liberties on speculating and suggesting as fact what they think is going on rather than allowing him his right to privacy.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no TO apologist but this borders on unreasonble journalistic integrity. Why do they suggest they are entitled to know the truth?

I guess I just don't get it or understand how they became in charge of what they say and do when one's privacy is at issue. It seems they have no respect for anyone when it comes to making a story.

What do you guys think? Am I wrong in my thoughts about this? Are we entitled to his medical records?

 

[Family Matters]

Guys... the police report may be entirely accurate. The vast bulk of it is simply relaying what the PR girl told them. It would be like if the cops broke up a domestic dispute and you only looked at one sides statement. That doesnt mean the cops are drawing those conclusions. The only thing the cops observed was asking TO in the hospital if he was trying to harm himself. No-one is disputing TO was disoriented, so it is plausible he misunderstood the question or was confused. The cops did not SEE Owens take any pills. They didnt see him having a medical emergency- the police report indicated it was the PR girls request that he be moved to the ER. If he unresponsive they wouldnt have asked. This has nothing to do with who to believe. The two stories are not mutually exclusive.

At the end of the day it doesnt really matter who you believe. The scientific evidence is that TO doesnt appear to be a man who took 35 vicodin. The hospital didnt treat him that way either.

OK, bare with me on this. Assumming that the police formed an opinion based on incorrect inputs and docmented what they thought on the report, why is it that certain reporters will take what they saw on the police report and then report it as fact? Based on their own investigation, they know the facts to be in dispute, therefore they are not proven to be the facts. Yet they continue to go with what the police report states and hang their hats on this?Should they be allowed to this? If so what seperates them from media outlets like The Enquirer? The Enguirer will take anyone's quote and run with it. They get bashed and sued for it all the time. There seems to be little difference in reporting here when you get right down to it.

 

[Yitbos69]

Bump....just wanted to make sure everyone had a chance to comment!

 

[culdeus]

This is far from over.

For a brief moment I bought the TO spin. Now, not so much.