Breaking: Robert Kraft arrested for soliciting prostitution (1 Viewer)

[Leroy Hoard]

https://humantraffickinghotline.org/type-trafficking/sex-trafficking

Geez, you are factually wrong in 3 straight posts.  Google is your friend.

"Sex trafficking is a form of modern-day slavery in which individuals perform commercial sex through the use of force, fraud, or coercion. Minors under the age of 18 engaging in commercial sex are considered to be victims of human trafficking, regardless of the use of force, fraud, or coercion."

Just keep digging that hole dude. 

 

[espnespn]

Just keep digging that hole dude. 

Sorry you can't read simple English.  Fact: Trafficking can be either on adults *or* minors.

 

[tkrull]

They said evidence exists.  What is the NFL going to do if that video comes out?

Probably throw up in their mouths.

 

[espnespn]

Sorry you can't read simple English.  Fact: Trafficking can be either on adults *or* minors.

http://www.endslaverynow.org/learn/slavery-today/sex-trafficking

"Worldwide, false promises are ways in which traffickers bait and enslave their victims – both adults and minors."

Yup, keep working on your basic English comprehension. 

 

[espnespn]

You may want to check that out chief.

https://www.bing.com/search?pc=DOWI&form=AMZNS2&q=sex+trafficking+under+age

Do you even read your own links?

"As defined by U.S. law, victims of human trafficking can be divided into three populations: Children under the age of 18 induced into commercial sex Adults (age 18 or over) induced into commercial sex through force, fraud, or coercion Children and adults induced to perform labor or services through force, fraud, or coercion."

Where does it say trafficking automatically means underage, like you said in your earlier post?

Also, still waiting on your proof that Kraft used underage hookers.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Do you even read your own links?

"As defined by U.S. law, victims of human trafficking can be divided into three populations: Children under the age of 18 induced into commercial sex Adults (age 18 or over) induced into commercial sex through force, fraud, or coercion Children and adults induced to perform labor or services through force, fraud, or coercion."

Where does it say trafficking automatically means underage, like you said in your earlier post?

Also, still waiting on your proof that Kraft used underage hookers.

Show me where I said "automatically" Einstein .

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Show me where I said "automatically" Einstein .

 

[espnespn]

Show me where I said "automatically" Einstein .

Show me where Kraft is running the hooker business Einstein.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I should have known from the brilliant name he uses. Twice as lame just as advertised.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

The report is that the Florida massage parlor was inundated with underage girls though.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

The report is that the Florida massage parlor was inundated with underage girls though.

But I'm sure the esteemed Mr. Kraft had nothing to do with any of them.

 

[espnespn]

I should have known from the brilliant name he uses. Twice as lame just as advertised.

Haha, I can't help if don't understand the difference between being a customer and running the business.  Sex trafficking has nothing to do with Kraft unless he was running the business.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Haha, I can't help if don't understand the difference between being a customer and running the business.  Sex trafficking has nothing to do with Kraft unless he was running the business.

Like I said before, be sure to tell that to the arresting officer.

 

[espnespn]

But I'm sure the esteemed Mr. Kraft had nothing to do with any of them.

Yes, everyone should believe your word that Kraft was involved with underage girls.  Instead of the sheriff there:

"Sheriff Snyder said that none of the victims were underage."

https://deadspin.com/the-florida-massage-parlor-police-bust-goes-far-beyond-1832822580

Do you also believe the earth is flat?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Yes, everyone should believe your word that Kraft was involved with underage girls.  Instead of the sheriff there:

"Sheriff Snyder said that none of the victims were underage."

https://deadspin.com/the-florida-massage-parlor-police-bust-goes-far-beyond-1832822580

Do you also believe the earth is flat?

Do we believe this is the only time Kraft has ever utilized them?

 

[espnespn]

Do we believe this he only time Kraft has ever utilized them?

He's a billionaire who travels everywhere...what are the odds this is the first time paying for it? 

But unless there's proof that he hires underage girls, everyone would only be guessing/making stuff up.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

He's a billionaire who travels everywhere...what are the odds this is the first time paying for it? 

But unless there's proof that he hires underage girls, everyone would only be guessing.

Ive never traversed the world, but I can take a educated guess as to the flat/round earth conundrum.

 

[DJackson10]

Title says it all.

Gives new meaning to F the Patriots 

 

[DJackson10]

After kissing Brady on the lips he was probably all hot and bothered.

Maybe Kraft realized he wasn't about that life. SHould've just played tummy Sticks with Tommy Boy Kraft 

 

[DJackson10]

 Who cares.

I mean it's funny, but who cares?

There were girls held against their will and forced to have sex with people who paid for it. Lied to about getting a real job if they came to work in America. People should care. I really hope you don't have children. 

 

[DJackson10]

What a class organization.....wonder if they will make him sell??? What did the panthers owner do again?

He made some racist comments about players and scouts I think 

 

[DJackson10]

ProFootballTalk‏Verified account @ProFootballTalk

Report: Robert Kraft is not the biggest name involved in prostitution case

Whoa! Anyone want to take a guess on the bigger name? I would but this might get to political.

Also here is a list of the 25 names that are being charged: https://twitter.com/SchmitzMedia/status/1098987973859831814

Not a lot of spring chickens in that group.

This place is 30 Mins from Mar a Largo.... Just saying 

 

[DJackson10]

I understand that on one level this is kind of funny. But on another level, if you have looked into how human trafficking affects people and how many people are impacted by it, it is a lot less funny. It is easy to say Kraft is not the cause of human trafficking, but if the reason human trafficking exists is because people are out there willing to pay for sex, then Kraft is part of the cause of it. And if those of us who don't pay for sex just sit idly by and shrug our shoulders when we see it happening we are as much to blame as well.

Get educated about human trafficking in your city. Start understanding the problem, and maybe we can start helping to eliminate it.

Preaching over.

Girls I went to school with her younger sister got addicted to pain killers after the pregnancy of her one daughter do to C section. Became opiod addicted. Started selling her self. About 4 or so yrs ago family went to Disney with the kids sister when they get back sees an ad of her sister advertising on Backpage. Confronted her about it and possible using again. Her sister then walked out of the house one afternoon. Now that wasn't shocking part as she'd leave fora few days with her Phone, wallet and come home, call check on daughters. Well she left and didn't take anything with her plus no Phone calls to check on her kids. Many believe she was either killed by a client or dealer or got involved with sex trafficking and forced into it by someone. Family been looking for her ever since. 

So yes as funny as the Kraft thing is those saying now with what we know "Oh it's no big deal" I really hope they don't have any daughters or kids. It's a big deal because of what is involved now. if this was just some random from a talent agency and they got busted no problem but these girls were held against their will and forced to have sex with random men and lied to about jobs in America. 

 

[DJackson10]

Now that we've gotten all the jokes out of the way, can we put our heads together and figure out a reason for why this should result in Tom Brady being suspended for at least a season?

Tom Brady was the "lady of the Night" he was caught with

 

[DJackson10]

Maybe the government needs to legalize prostitution so all the sex workers can form a union.

You never see the NFL players union getting screwed by NFL owners.

I'm all for legalizing Prostitution. Most other countries its legal. I could get into so many reasons why it won't in this country but I'd be getting too political and get the thread locked or moved to the political part of this forum. Neither of which I want to do. 

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I used to believe this but I'd highly encourage you to do some research on places like Amsterdam where it is legal. It's different then drugs, this product is people.

Is amsterdamn better or worse than what we have in nevada....or what canada has?

 

[DJackson10]

Let's follow the bouncing ball here...

If the assumption is that Kraft had to have known that these places routinely use women as sex slaves, then it has to also be assumed that pretty much everyone in that area knows as well, correct? 

If that's the case, how in the world do these spas get a business license if the local governments know that these asian massage places are committing felonies?  What level of culpability needs to be assigned to Jupiter, FL here?

Ever hear of corrupt politicians and cops? Some of these places stay open or get a license because the political side or a cop or two is getting some $$$$$ out of it. 

 

[DJackson10]

Could the NFL force him to sell the team?

I don't see why not especially if we find out that the girls doing the "massages" and sex acts were underage girls and he knew they were. NFL could potentially get involved if thats the case. We just need to get more info first on this. 

 

[DJackson10]

Am I the only one who thinks this isn't so much of a big deal? As much as I want to #### on the Pat's, I cant. This #### is legal in a lot of different places. Rich guys have been getting prostitutes for more than a thousand years. 

I'd agree if a certain tidbit of info in the fact there was sex slaves and human trafficking wasn't involved

 

[Buffaloes]

The Patriot way™

 

[espnespn]

I don't see why not especially if we find out that the girls doing the "massages" and sex acts were underage girls and he knew they were. NFL could potentially get involved if thats the case. We just need to get more info first on this. 

A lot of people on this board are super-focused on the possibility of Kraft using under-aged girls.  Even though the sheriff there has said that none of the women were under-age.

https://deadspin.com/the-florida-massage-parlor-police-bust-goes-far-beyond-1832822580

"Sheriff Snyder said that none of the victims were underage."

It doesn't get clearer than that.

Is it possible we'll find out that Kraft used under-aged girls we don't know about yet?  Of course.  It's also possible we'll find out that Big Ben raped some under-aged girls we don't know about yet.  Or Zeke had pulled down the top of/had sex with an under-aged girl at that St. Patrick's Day party that we don't know about yet.  The possible conspiracy theories are endless.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Reality is brothels and massage parlors are often run by or affiliated with the mafia.

 

[espnespn]

I'd agree if a certain tidbit of info in the fact there was sex slaves and human trafficking wasn't involved

As far as we know, Kraft had nothing to do with the trafficking, he was charged by police with being a customer only.

Are iPhone customers responsible for the child slavery that goes on to make an iPhone?  That's on Apple/their suppliers.  Or maybe we can arrest anyone with an iPhone for child slavery?

 

[saintfool]

As far as we know, Kraft had nothing to do with the trafficking, he was charged by police with being a customer only.

Are iPhone customers responsible for the child slavery that goes on to make an iPhone?  That's on Apple/their suppliers.  Or maybe we can arrest anyone with an iPhone for child slavery?

That's right. Robert Kraft was just a "john". Maybe he liked rub and tug joints?

 

[RUSF18]

As far as we know, Kraft had nothing to do with the trafficking, he was charged by police with being a customer only.

Are iPhone customers responsible for the child slavery that goes on to make an iPhone?  That's on Apple/their suppliers.  Or maybe we can arrest anyone with an iPhone for child slavery?

People would probably buy fewer iPhones if they had to actually sit there and watch the child use their hands to do the job.

 

[Ilov80s]

God bless those brave enough to go online and defend billionaires, you are doing the lords work. That was a moral and righteous handjob!!!

 

[Tool]

God bless those brave enough to go online and defend billionaires, you are doing the lords work. That was a moral and righteous handjob!!!

First they come for the billionaires, but you could be next.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

So we create a strawman of righteous indignation that an old man would seek attention via the oldest profession in the world, and we highlight the linkage between his actions and underage human trafficking, but we conveniently neglect context including the misdemeanor nature of his transgression, the prevalence of prostitution in human society, the connection between pornography and human trafficking, and the explicit and implicit consumption rates of prostitution and pornography by league owners, league players, football forum posters and humans in general.  I submit that anyone who wants to throw stones rather than plucking out their own eye is either a liar, a hypocrite, a fool, or a coward.

Good day.

 

[Short Corner]

just like drugs make it legal.....and the black market will disappear.

But how are we supposed to punish the sinners if we do away with victimless crimes ?

 

[Bracie Smathers]

VIDEO PROOF >>>  Patriots' owner Robert Kraft propositions a prostitute

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

But how are we supposed to punish the sinners if we do away with victimless crimes ?

well, Im not sure if legalizing it would get rid of human trafficking or not, but I think it would make people like Kradft not be criminals

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

God bless those brave enough to go online and defend billionaires, you are doing the lords work. That was a moral and righteous handjob!!!

Yes, and don't forget to bless all the turd posters so eager to revel in the misery of others; real salt of the earth types........

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Yes, and don't forget to bless all the turd posters so eager to revel in the misery of others; real salt of the earth types........

Pats reap what they sow....bunch a cheating rub n tuggers!

 

[Tool]

Pats reap what they sow....bunch a cheating rub n tuggers!

Strong candidate for my team name next year.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Pats reap what they sow....bunch a cheating rub n tuggers!

I find this post to be very deflating.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Strong candidate for my team name next year.

Oh yeah

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

Pats reap what they sow....bunch a cheating rub n tuggers!

Hopefully you and your ilk will too.........

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Hopefully you and your ilk will too.........

LOL my ilk.....

 

[DJackson10]

Reality is brothels and massage parlors are often run by or affiliated with the mafia.

Not a lot of mafia running around anymore thanks to the Government. When you think about it streets were safer with the Mafia. Now we got all these gangbangers shooting each other and innocent people. At least with the Mob you knew you were getting whacked and you never F'd with Mafia Territory unless you were entertaining a Trunk ride. 

 

[DJackson10]

Yes, and don't forget to bless all the turd posters so eager to revel in the misery of others; real salt of the earth types........

I don't get why NE feels so righteous when they've got fans shouting N bombs at minority players in other sports. Plus no one in NE seemed to give a dam about the Pats until Brady and BB showed up. I use to Think Yankees fans were just terrible whiners and the rest of New Yorkers annoyed with Boston but over the years I've realized I had more civilized conversations with a Giants/Mets/Yankee fans then I have with anyone from Boston who seems to lose their #### and want to throw down if you have a difference of opinion then them. You win a couple of titles in your city and the fans and city feels all so entitled to everything.