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[Statorama]

Damn. Shoulda went with a screen.

In 6 months, no one would remember the circumstances.

 

[Neal Cassady]

They were going for the record, with an outside shot of winning the game as a nice little bonus. I would bet any amount of money that if Brees wasn't going for the record they would have thrown a hail marry there.

Brees is as accurate as they get, but he's not a big-armed QB. He wasn't going to throw that ball 65 yards downfield with just about every DB in the end zone. He threw a ball that he had a good chance of completing that also offered a decent shot at some yards. If he and Payton were only interested in going after the record, there were better options out there for them.

Like I said, they were going for the record with a shot at winning the game too, but I guarantee they did not consider that play the best they had available for a chance to win it (hail marry is that play).Brees can throw the ball 60-65 yards. He doesn't zip the ball around on a line all the time because he's short, but he has an NFL arm and then some.

Okay, rather than just discount your remarks as being idiotic, I'll give you the opportunity to defend yourself by providing a link showing him chucking the ball 60+ yards down the field for a completion or one to a statement by a legitimate NFL scouting report that he has one of the stronger arms in the game.

ill bite.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sr0wKUiG7I

 

[Despyzer]

ill bite.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sr0wKUiG7I

... and that's probably as close as we will get. :(

 

[FreeBaGeL]

They were going for the record, with an outside shot of winning the game as a nice little bonus. I would bet any amount of money that if Brees wasn't going for the record they would have thrown a hail marry there.

Brees is as accurate as they get, but he's not a big-armed QB. He wasn't going to throw that ball 65 yards downfield with just about every DB in the end zone. He threw a ball that he had a good chance of completing that also offered a decent shot at some yards. If he and Payton were only interested in going after the record, there were better options out there for them.

Like I said, they were going for the record with a shot at winning the game too, but I guarantee they did not consider that play the best they had available for a chance to win it (hail marry is that play).Brees can throw the ball 60-65 yards. He doesn't zip the ball around on a line all the time because he's short, but he has an NFL arm and then some.

Okay, rather than just discount your remarks as being idiotic, I'll give you the opportunity to defend yourself by providing a link showing him chucking the ball 60+ yards down the field for a completion or one to a statement by a legitimate NFL scouting report that he has one of the stronger arms in the game.

Brees is one of the best deep ball throwers in the NFL. Rather than sift through his dozens upon dozens of long touchdown passes that he's thrown in the NFL I pulled up the first highlight reel I came across. At the 1:40 mark you can see him throw the ball 60 yards all the way back in college (ball thrown from his own 15 to the opponent's 25), and it doesn't even look like that was anywhere near as far as he can throw.http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=KnBsYWUm6yE

But even outside of the video evidence sitting right there, I can tell you this. I was a high school quarterback who was considered to have too weak an arm to play quarterback IN COLLEGE, and I can throw the ball 53 yards. If you think Drew Brees can't throw the ball 60 yards then you are the absolute last person on this forum to be throwing around the "i" word that you mentioned.

 

[Despyzer]

I was a high school quarterback who was considered to have too weak an arm to play quarterback IN COLLEGE, and I can throw the ball 53 yards. If you think Drew Brees can't throw the ball 60 yards then you are the absolute last person on this forum to be throwing around the "i" word that you mentioned.

I can throw the ball over 60 yards, but that doesn't mean that I could be counted on to throw a game-winning TD toss that distance in the NFL when the entire defensive backfield is loading up the endzone.I think you've cemented my opinion of you, you can stop posting now.

 

[Team]

But even outside of the video evidence sitting right there, I can tell you this. I was a high school quarterback who was considered to have too weak an arm to play quarterback IN COLLEGE, and I can throw the ball 53 yards. If you think Drew Brees can't throw the ball 60 yards then you are the absolute last person on this forum to be throwing around the "i" word that you mentioned.

AWESOME!

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I was a high school quarterback who was considered to have too weak an arm to play quarterback IN COLLEGE, and I can throw the ball 53 yards. If you think Drew Brees can't throw the ball 60 yards then you are the absolute last person on this forum to be throwing around the "i" word that you mentioned.

I can throw the ball over 60 yards, but that doesn't mean that I could be counted on to throw a game-winning TD toss that distance in the NFL when the entire defensive backfield is loading up the endzone.I think you've cemented my opinion of you, you can stop posting now.

So what you're saying is that you can throw the ball farther than Drew Brees?I think you've just cemented my opinion of you. I never said I was any good at playing QB (though one of my friends growing up made the roster at the University of Florida and all our friends and probably he himeself will tell you that I was twice the player he was in high school), just that 53 yards was considered too weak an arm to play quarterback in COLLEGE, yet it is your contention that an NFL QUARTERBACK that has one of the best deep balls in the league can not throw it 60 yards. And on top of that, you say that you, a mere fantasy football forum poster, can throw it 60 yards no problem and an NFL quarterback can not.There are 32 starting NFL quarterbacks in the United States. There are lots of guys that have an NFL caliber arm. There are lots of guys that can make the right reads and read a defense. The 32 starting NFL quarterbacks are a cross-section of the two. If you think Drew Brees can't throw the ball 60 yards then you should re-consider the forums you visit. If you think Drew Brees can't throw the ball 60 yards even after watching a video of him throwing the ball 60 yards when he was barely 20 years old, then you need to reconsider the glasses you wear and the process you use to think.

 

[Despyzer]

So what you're saying is that you can throw the ball farther than Drew Brees?

I'm saying that you may want to check this out and then re-read my post.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

but that doesn't mean that I could be counted on to throw a game-winning TD toss that distance in the NFL when the entire defensive backfield is loading up the endzone.

You keep bringing up this point about threading the ball in between multiple defenders 60 yards downfield in reference to a hail marry, and I'm really starting to wonder if you understand how the play works. You do realize that the purpose behind a hail marry is to load up a bunch of guys in the end zone, have the QB throw it into the general vicinity, and hope that one of those guys can jump up and catch it or grab it off a flukey tip, right? Because the way you're talking, it seems like you think the way a hail marry is drawn up is for the quarterback to make a superhuman pass where he throws it before the WR makes his break and threads it inbetween 6 DBs on a rope 65 yards downfield where he hits the WR right in the numbers for a glorious game winning touchdown.Yeah, a hail marry is a low-percentage pass. No ####, congrats on figuring that one out. But the point is that when you are close enough to actually throw a hail marry into the endzone, it's still a higher percentage pass than a crazy lateral play, which as far as I know has a percentage of exactly ZERO since the NFL instituted the rule against advancing forward fumbles at the end of the game.But hey, you go ahead and find some time in between your personal attacks to work out those statistics and get back to me. Thanks in advance.

 

[Despyzer]

it's still a higher percentage pass than a crazy lateral play, which as far as I know has a percentage of exactly ZERO since the NFL instituted the rule against advancing forward fumbles at the end of the game.

I think I'm being fished here.

 

[fatboyj711]

but that doesn't mean that I could be counted on to throw a game-winning TD toss that distance in the NFL when the entire defensive backfield is loading up the endzone.

You keep bringing up this point about threading the ball in between multiple defenders 60 yards downfield in reference to a hail marry, and I'm really starting to wonder if you understand how the play works. You do realize that the purpose behind a hail marry is to load up a bunch of guys in the end zone, have the QB throw it into the general vicinity, and hope that one of those guys can jump up and catch it or grab it off a flukey tip, right? Because the way you're talking, it seems like you think the way a hail marry is drawn up is for the quarterback to make a superhuman pass where he throws it before the WR makes his break and threads it inbetween 6 DBs on a rope 65 yards downfield where he hits the WR right in the numbers for a glorious game winning touchdown.Yeah, a hail marry is a low-percentage pass. No ####, congrats on figuring that one out. But the point is that when you are close enough to actually throw a hail marry into the endzone, it's still a higher percentage pass than a crazy lateral play, which as far as I know has a percentage of exactly ZERO since the NFL instituted the rule against advancing forward fumbles at the end of the game.But hey, you go ahead and find some time in between your personal attacks to work out those statistics and get back to me. Thanks in advance.

this argument is moot since brees would've had to have thrown the ball 65+ yds to pull off a hailmary since NO was at their own 35 yd line... brees just doesn't have the arm to throw a 70 yd pass so they elected to go the other route... isn't it ironic that people are arguing about the arm strength required to throw a hailmary yet brees underthrew a deep out the last play