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Brian Griese starts next week . . . (1 Viewer)
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Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
This is exactly how I feel. Don't care for Chicago at all, don't cheer for or against them, but I struggle to watch Grossman as well. I think they have to really consider inserting Griese in to the line up.
ItsOnlytheRiver
Footballguy
Just a thought... unless reporting fact, let's keep thread titles from being misleading to fact not reported.
nflguru
Footballguy
I was actually happy to see him FINALLY!!!
run for a first down.. As for Griese, he is not better than Grossman.. Berrian dropped a td pass tonight and the picks he has thrown can be chalk'd up to "trying to make plays"..We need someone better than the 3 circus clowns here.. Philly, we will gladly take McNabb off your hands..
Banger
Footballguy
last year they were winning so he kept his job...this year they are 1-2 and look terrible. The cowboys have a horrendous defense and it looks like they have one of the top units in the league today. I'm still shocked that the Bears didn't address this glaring weakness with a good backup in the offseason. They have no one to blame except themselves for possibly losing the divsion and not making the super bowl again.
falconeyed
Footballguy
I turned it off about two hours ago. CHI's OL does not look good. Didn't look like they were opening up holes for the running game to get going and it seems like Grossman needs the running game to at least be marginally effective. He cannot win a game on his own.
Any decent QBs in the walk year of their contracts this year?
Any decent QBs in the walk year of their contracts this year?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Because someone might think that Lovie announced the change to Andrea Kremer before the game ended.
wraith5
Footballguy
From your keyboard to God's (and Lovie's) ears. As a Chicago homer, I am so sick of Rex I'd rather see Orton out there.
Me too. At least Orton didn't give the games away and he may have a shot at being the guy in the future. Griese is a band aid fix at best.Either way, Bears need to figure something out for next year and it can't be Rex. Hell, if it's Rex for one more game I don't think I can take it.
twistd
Footballguy
I say they go straight to Orton. Orton is young. See what he offers. The season is over with at this point. The Bears have no chance of doing anything this season. You have to find someone who can carry the ball. Benson should be a back up at best. Adrian Peterson is a back up. He's an adequate fill in for a couple of games, but nothing more. Your receivers leave a lot to be desired. Berrian has promise. Muhammed is too old. No one else has consistently shown anything. The defense is hugely over-rated. They showed, both here and in San Diego, that they don't match up with the elite teams. The one change is the coordinator. So maybe Babich is the wrong guy for the job. They play well for a quarter. Teams adjust to what they are doing. The Bears keep doing the same thing that isn't working. They are going to need a new offensive and defensive coordinator next year. You really go back to square one and try to reconstruct things. You have t ofigure out what pieces you keep and what you get rid of. Bye bye Grossman, bye bye Benson.
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moonhead
Footballguy
amen brother. you and me both. let's see if we can trade for joey.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
This team traded its heart and soul to the Jets.
Period.
Period.
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
I don't see how Smith cannot make the change. The press in Chicago was already out in force in favor of such a move, and now, after getting downright embarrassed on national TV in a "spotlight" matchup - - I think it's a done deal. It will be Griese, I'd expect. The Bears need to draft a QB in the first round in April.
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twistd
Footballguy
Thomas Jones hasn't done anything with the Jets either. Everything fell in to place last year. Jones is better than Benson, but that doesn't exactly put him in a small group.
Incogneto
Footballguy
What is he saying? where can we watch this?:IAmInCanada:
Native
Footballguy
I'd settle for Bob Griese right now.
nfl.com ususally has post game pressers on their site. Not sure how soon after games, but I would look there.
twistd
Footballguy
The Bears need to look at Orton. He actually played alright in the preseason. See if he is any good. Otherwise you are right. You have to start from scratch. The problem is that Jerry Angelo is the one who drafted Grossman. Angelo hasn't been very good at drafting QBs. He wasn't very good in Tampa, and it appears like he isn't very good now either. But the Bears also need a running back. They need a receiver who can catch the ball. The next Super Bowl for the Bears is a long way off I'm afraid.
whitem0nkey
Footballguy
I have been backing rex since day one threw all the injuries and the suck fests and the great games. im done backing him. i know its not all of rex's fault in terms of offensive production but im done with him. Bring one Orton, yes Orton and his ex-neck beard not greese.
phrozen
Footballguy
one example:Rex: I need to start doing what I do best - start making big plays.**He is already doing what he does best - throwing to the other team.
duaneok66
Footballguy
I hope he owns a Playstation 3 . . .
Englishteacher
Footballguy
overreact much? where did they finish last year? they were in the Super Bowl. A little Brian Grises Kool aid is all this team really needs right now. Granted, they have some holes on offense but let's not forget they were one win from winning it all last year. Sadly, I don't think Orton is better than Rex. They have to scale back the offense to like a high school level for him because he can't throw outside the numbers. Orton's a great #3 Qb but no starter. I think they know that already. Not like Grossman should be a starter either but hey...I think a little veteran QB action is what they need. A guy who can makea few throws and get a few first downs but generally not f things up. Keep the defense fresh. They held the Top Offense in the NFC to 3 points at the half before they had to trot out there for the 44th time in the second. If they could develop a short to intermediate passing game and run the ball some then you gotta like the teams chances most weeks. (However, the Bears did suffer a bunch of injuries tonight. I believe 4 starters didn't finish the game. OUCH!)
PatytonsGhost
Footballguy
This has to be the most mindless and emotion filled post about football this year that I have read. Message boards allow anyone with fingers and an internet connection to post
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
twistd
Footballguy
A lot of things fell into place for the Bears last year. But the most important thing is their running game. They were able to sustain a running game. Now the offensive line isn't controlling the line of scrimmage. Benson seems slow, and he can't hold on to the ball. When you can consistently run the ball it opens up a lot. The Bears decided to put their season in the hands of Grossman and Benson. That appears to be a huge mistake. In addition, the teams in their division are much better. Both the Vikings and the Packers have strong defenses, and are playing well. The Lions aren't very good on defense, but they are playing well, and scoring a lot of points. Before there were six relatively easy games in their division for the Bears. That is all gone. At this point the Bears look like a 6-10 team to me. Right now I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Bears finished last in the NFC North.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
I don't know how Lovie can look any of his defenders in the eye if he says he's still going with Grossman. I wanted to believe he would be better this year, that having completed his first full year as starter, Rex would learn from his mistakes and get better. But he's gotten worse. Coordinators know exactly what to do - pressure Rex heavily and wait for the turnovers to come. I thought that Rex couldn't be worse than last year - quarterbacks have to get better with experience, right? Wrong. It's one thing to struggle against the Chargers and Patriots, it's another to completely throw up on yourself against the Cowboys, who have very little defense to speak of. I was wrong - Rex is simply not good enough, smart enough, and dog gone it, Bears fans don't like him. Please Lovie, go to Griese, Orton, or Ditka for the sake of Bears fans everywhere. This season is not over, but it will be soon enough if Rex continues to run this team. He's going to drive all the defenders insane and sooner or later, they will snap after having to spend most of yet another game on the field because Grossman can't move this team and stop giving the ball away.
DarabZarrabi
Footballguy
Grossman hasn't looked good but you guys remember who Brian Griese is right...a perennial loser. Lets give Lovie some credit, I'm sure he knows as much as everyone else how bad Rex has played, but I think he also realizes that at this point Rex is their best option (no matter how crummy), and as his leash is getting shorter and shorter I think he has some slack left because once they go to Griese they're basically stuck without a future quarterback. Rex hasn't been getting much help from his targets on offense, and I think their play calling does not match the type of quarterback he is. He is a gunslinger and he just is not right for a system where they need a quarterback to just manage games. I think theyre going to give Grossman a few more weeks, but the guy is under a surreal amount of pressure and every bad move he makes is criticized. Maybe the pressure has just overwhelmed him at this point and he has lost the team
jerseydevil20
Footballguy
It was clear in the close up shots of the huddle in the second half that the O doesn't believe in Rex. He's a lame duck on the field. That's the tape Lovie needs to watch.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Maybe there's just something to this Superbowl hangover thing.
Pound
Footballguy
Maybe the Bears were "gross"ly overrated last year and the luck sack of the league to get as far as they did?
twitch
Footballguy
sold! you got any thoughts on lottery #s ???
duaneok66
Footballguy
don't play it . . . save your money . . .
Maybe they really were who Denny Green thought they were....Maybe the Bears were "gross"ly overrated last year and the luck sack of the league to get as far as they did?
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twitch
Footballguy
Trent Dilfer, Doug Williams, Jim Plunkett were all perennial losers. And I mean BIG TIME losers. They probably had among the worst records in the history of football prior to going to the teams they eventually won their Superbowls with. Four NFL titles between the 3. Brian Griese is a guy who's won big time games at Michican and led them to an undefeated season. he won the Rose Bowl in a big time setting obviously, and I believe they won the national title that year. He's gotten it done before. Personally, I think the guy still has the ability to win. But he needs a legitimate chance at some point. Im sure he'd struggle initially, but my God the guy shouldnt even be compared to Grossman. The coaching decisions being made in Chicago on this subject are FAR beyond laughable at this point. Its reached the point where as a fan you just feel almost insulted that theyre still giving Grossman the reigns. Im sure Lovie knows his team better than anyone else. I just dont think he's able to step outside of the situation and look at it objectively. If Jerry Jones were running that team, Grossman would have been benched before the season started. Someone needs to go over his head on this one.
zamboni
Footballguy
Griese is no world-beater, but he played very well for Tampa a few years ago and with Denver on occasion at the beginning of his career. He won't lead a team to greatness, but is probably better suited to moving the chains and being less mistake-prone than Grossman is. With their defense, that's really what the team needs.
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Tanner9919
Footballguy
Grossman falls under that 'Florida QB's don't play well in the NFL' statement.
SuperJohn96
RPS World Champion
I just don't get how they came so close last year, and that QB was their downfall, they had a great running game and defense, and what do they do to improve their team?
They get rid of their running back.
Pride is the downfall of MANY General Managers/Coaches in thinking they have to keep/play a player because of where he was drafted.
Benson never looked any good, and I don't understand this burning desire they've had for a while to get rid of Thomas Jones and have Benson be the starter.
If he was good enough to start, he would have stolen the job before they got rid of TJ.
And same thing with Grossman. I sort of get the excuse about being a young QB, but you can just tell that this guy doesn't get it, and maybe never will. All they Bears staff sees are his good games, and when he has a bad game, it's excuses.
The excuse here is that there is no excuse for management to not have done SOMETHING about the QB position.
And I'm a Browns fan with nothing invested in the Bears at all. Just as an NFL fan, they make me so mad squandering their opportunity with GROSSman.
They get rid of their running back.
Pride is the downfall of MANY General Managers/Coaches in thinking they have to keep/play a player because of where he was drafted.
Benson never looked any good, and I don't understand this burning desire they've had for a while to get rid of Thomas Jones and have Benson be the starter.
If he was good enough to start, he would have stolen the job before they got rid of TJ.
And same thing with Grossman. I sort of get the excuse about being a young QB, but you can just tell that this guy doesn't get it, and maybe never will. All they Bears staff sees are his good games, and when he has a bad game, it's excuses.
The excuse here is that there is no excuse for management to not have done SOMETHING about the QB position.
And I'm a Browns fan with nothing invested in the Bears at all. Just as an NFL fan, they make me so mad squandering their opportunity with GROSSman.
