Chaka
Footballguy
Britt? Bailey? Cook? Kendricks? Austin?
Not exactly a murderer's row of a receiving corps.
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Brian Quick WR Saint Louis Rams [Appalachian State] (1 Viewer)
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Britt? Bailey? Cook? Kendricks? Austin?
Not exactly a murderer's row of a receiving corps.
bulger2holt
Footballguy
How do we know? They have had back up QB's throwing to them the past few years with a poor o-line giving the QB no time either.
Not exactly a murderer's row of a receiving corps.
duaneok66
Footballguy
Rams mailbag: What to make of Brian Quick's progress
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/20599/rams-mailbag-what-to-make-of-brian-quicks-progress
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/20599/rams-mailbag-what-to-make-of-brian-quicks-progress
Mortimer Ichabod
Footballguy
Any reason why his production fell off a cliff last season prior to the injury?
"Too many" isn't a matter of talent, it's a matter of numbers. That lineup isn't going to bring down Calvin or Julio, but most or all of those guys are at least Quick-level talents. Which is to say mediocre, or slightly better if all goes perfectly.That many targets with none standing out above the rest is a recipe for spreading it around. And if anyone has the talent to separate from that pack, it's Britt, not Quick.
Not exactly a murderer's row of a receiving corps.
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ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
Defenses became aware of him. Prior to those early season games he was a bust for 2 years.Mortimer Ichabod said:
Frank Black
Footballguy
To me, taking a late round flyer on Quick makes sense by process of elimination. The other receiving targets in STL are no better than a tease of potential.
For example, when will people ever be willing to stick a fork in Britt instead of pining over his talent and potential? Britt is what he is. If you're going to take a risk with an unproven, why take those risks with players who repeatedly disappoint?
For example, when will people ever be willing to stick a fork in Britt instead of pining over his talent and potential? Britt is what he is. If you're going to take a risk with an unproven, why take those risks with players who repeatedly disappoint?
Because Britt is by far the greater talent, still young enough to be okay, and last year, when there was at least SOMETHING resembling a competent NFL QB after Shaun Hill got healthy, he was easily the best WR on the Rams. Foles will be far better than that.
He's a Fisher favorite, and at least has a pedigree of slightly sustained production (top-tier production during that run over parts of two seasons, "slightly" sustained). And he's still a year or two away from his prime years. Writing off a player like that is crazy unless he's got Justin Blackmon type problems or just can't move on the field anymore. Neither describes Britt.
Whereas Quick has, what, three games of adequacy and none of more than that in three years? A career high of 375 yards for a season? THAT'S your model for potential?
Neither guy costs anything to grab, so at least give yourself a chance for your late round grab to be something. Quick has no real chance of that. If Quick "hits" you get 800/6 and can't ever use him anyway. If Britt hits, you get at worst a usable WR2 in twelve team leagues with upside from there.
Frank Black
Footballguy
I want to agree with you about Britt, but the positive things about him that you mentioned fit into my opinion that Britt is a tease of fantasy usefulness. That said, you made insightful points.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I give Austin another 4-6 actual NFL weeks before the halo breaks and the Rams fold their hand. At some point Fisher has to see that absolutely nothing happens when they throw the ball that way.
A healthy Quick and a focused Britt might delay things a bit, but it seems like every time they chuck it at Bailey he's running WFO for a nice gain. Even if I wasn't as high on him as I am, I'd still rather buy Bailey as the dart given the prices.
A healthy Quick and a focused Britt might delay things a bit, but it seems like every time they chuck it at Bailey he's running WFO for a nice gain. Even if I wasn't as high on him as I am, I'd still rather buy Bailey as the dart given the prices.
Chaka
Footballguy
I have no problem if you are saying we don't know if they are good receivers or not but that is not what you said. What I have a problem with is calling all of those guys "very good receivers". Not much to substantiate a statement like that.How do we know? They have had back up QB's throwing to them the past few years with a poor o-line giving the QB no time either.
Not exactly a murderer's row of a receiving corps.
kawaihae
Footballguy
Yardage wise, Chris Givens was the number one receiver weeks 1 and 2 of the preseason. Any reason why he's not mentioned here? I ask because I like Quick, but there do seem to be a lot of warm bodies to compete with for relevance.
Not exactly a murderer's row of a receiving corps.
If is wasn't for the fact that they were stupid enough to spend a 1st round pick on Austin, they would have gave up on him a long time ago. Useless.
saintfool
Dead sexy
it's *possible* for Givens to emerge, i guess. the QB play has been uneven after all but his numbers have declined every year since his rookie season. he's been strictly boom-bust in games really. also, he's been overshadowed by Austin, Quick, Bailey, and Britt since then. it would seem to speak to something about his chances of being fantasy or NFL relevant.Yardage wise, Chris Givens was the number one receiver weeks 1 and 2 of the preseason. Any reason why he's not mentioned here? I ask because I like Quick, but there do seem to be a lot of warm bodies to compete with for relevance.
Not exactly a murderer's row of a receiving corps.
anyone know what's up here?
He was apparently a healthy scratch this week. Yet I'm sure most expected him to be WR1. Very strange unless he's more injured than they are letting on.
He was apparently a healthy scratch this week. Yet I'm sure most expected him to be WR1. Very strange unless he's more injured than they are letting on.
I'm liking what I saw in the Rams offence .... so any information would be great.
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
Just listened to an audio segment by ESPN Rams beat reporter, Nick Wagoner.
He suggested several reasons, a numbers game as he doesn't play ST, as well as possible lingering shoulder issues (making the "healthy" in healthy scratch somewhat ambiguous), or at least, rustiness concerns? It actually sounded like he didn't have a definitive reason ("We'll know more in week 2") and it was informed conjecture.
If there are any character, work ethic, intangible, off field, dog house-related issues/explanations, I haven't heard.
He suggested several reasons, a numbers game as he doesn't play ST, as well as possible lingering shoulder issues (making the "healthy" in healthy scratch somewhat ambiguous), or at least, rustiness concerns? It actually sounded like he didn't have a definitive reason ("We'll know more in week 2") and it was informed conjecture.
If there are any character, work ethic, intangible, off field, dog house-related issues/explanations, I haven't heard.
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http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7477/brian-quick
Thinking about dropping him for Tavon. It's a 16-team league, so not much out there, and we do get points for return yards. I just don't see how Quick is worth a roster spot at this point.
What's so weird is that Fisher's quotes make it sound like an injury, but he was a healthy scratch. Are NFL teams even allowed to do that? Don't injured guys have to be listed on the injury report?
Thinking about dropping him for Tavon. It's a 16-team league, so not much out there, and we do get points for return yards. I just don't see how Quick is worth a roster spot at this point.
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Darryl Talley
Footballguy
Seems like they could use a guy like him.
He's not really injured. Medically he's fine. It's physical therapy, training, getting up to NFL speed. Yeah it's because of an injury but the body has healed up.
It does seem a little "gamey" but at least he didn't get put on IR expected to return
timbrah_ho
Footballguy
Dropped him last week for Moncrief and I'm considering picking him up again as a stash for Charles Johnson who so far has been a pretty big disappointment. Anyone think this is a particularly dumb move? I imagine we should see Quick on the field in the next few weeks -- question is what kind of shape he'll be in and what kind of presence he'll have in the offense considering the downtime
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
They do need him.But he needs to be active. Then he needs snaps. Then he needs to start.
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I'll keep an eye on him going forward, but even in a 16-team league, I don't think he's worth a stash if there's someone better out there on your WW. Too many question marks, and the Rams aren't exactly being forthcoming. At this point, would it be any more or less surprising if he a) came back next week and dropped a 7/150/2 or b) got cut?
timbrah_ho
Footballguy
I just dropped him for Bilal Powell. It's the 2nd time he's cycled through my roster already because I really wanted to hold onto him...but it's a 10 team league and there's just no room for the dead weight when he's not even approaching the field yet.
djjosee
Footballguy
Brian Quick - WR - Rams
Rams coach Jeff Fisher said Brian Quick will play Sunday against the Cardinals.
Quick hasn't played since suffering a torn rotator cuff last season, though we're not convinced the shoulder injury had anything to do with his absence during the first three weeks. Regardless of why Fisher has kept Quick under wraps, he's back now and should breathe life into a Rams receiving corps that desperately needs it. Unfortunately for Quick, he gets a tough matchup right out of the gate against a red-hot Cardinals squad.
Source: Nick Wagoner on Twitter
Oct 2 - 3:16 PM
Rams coach Jeff Fisher said Brian Quick will play Sunday against the Cardinals.
Quick hasn't played since suffering a torn rotator cuff last season, though we're not convinced the shoulder injury had anything to do with his absence during the first three weeks. Regardless of why Fisher has kept Quick under wraps, he's back now and should breathe life into a Rams receiving corps that desperately needs it. Unfortunately for Quick, he gets a tough matchup right out of the gate against a red-hot Cardinals squad.
Source: Nick Wagoner on Twitter
Oct 2 - 3:16 PM
Darryl Talley
Footballguy
Almost dropped him this week. Let's see what he can do before I drop him.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Former 2nd round pick, he's just in FF wasteland there. Never had more than 99 yards in a game, he had one very good game last year due to 2 TDs, maybe a good stretch in the first 4 games as WR2, but then 4/1/10/0 in game 5 and 2/2/33/0 in game 6 before getting hurt.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Picked him up on the cheap in both my leagues tonight. WHy not roll the dice on a dude with talent/opportunity.
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The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Chris Givens was traded to Baltimore. He played 35%, 31% and 24% of offensive plays the first 3 weeks. 30.2% total
Junior McSpiffy
Footballguy
zamboni
Footballguy
That and Austin is actually playing pretty well, and Cook will get his share of targets. Not saying Quick can't become the #1 receiver there, but this conservative offense goes through Gurley so I would keep my expectations low.
Personally, I think Quick should be the #1 receiver on that team right now, but I do agree with you that this is not a team where the WR1 is going to have a ton of value. But I think Quick could be a fantasy WR2, likely plagued with inconsistency. That's his upside. Pretty obvious downside of unstartable WW fodder given the QB play, his bizarrely slow integration into the offense, and the conservative nature of the offensive play calling. Keeping expectations low is definitely the way to go for this season.
