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Brock Osweiler completed 35-of-51 passes for 308 yards and rushed three times for ten yards in the Broncos' Week 14 loss to the Raiders.

The Denver offense has become increasingly painful to watch with Osweiler at the controls, so much so that the Broncos may have to give serious consideration to turning back to Peyton Manning once his foot heals. Holding the ball far too long in the pocket against the Raiders, Osweiler absorbed five sacks -- all by Khalil Mack -- and went into fear-based panic mode late in the game. Osweiler failed to engineer a single touchdown drive, with all 12 of Denver's points coming on Brandon McManus field goals. The Broncos head to Pittsburgh next. Osweiler is barely on the fantasy QB2 map.

Dec 13 - 7:29 PM
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Faust said:
Rotoworld:

Brock Osweiler completed 35-of-51 passes for 308 yards and rushed three times for ten yards in the Broncos' Week 14 loss to the Raiders.

The Denver offense has become increasingly painful to watch with Osweiler at the controls, so much so that the Broncos may have to give serious consideration to turning back to Peyton Manning once his foot heals. Holding the ball far too long in the pocket against the Raiders, Osweiler absorbed five sacks -- all by Khalil Mack -- and went into fear-based panic mode late in the game. Osweiler failed to engineer a single touchdown drive, with all 12 of Denver's points coming on Brandon McManus field goals. The Broncos head to Pittsburgh next. Osweiler is barely on the fantasy QB2 map.

Dec 13 - 7:29 PM
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who the hell writes this? Gotta wonder if the author watched the game.

Mack was in Osweilers face within 2 seconds - the 5 sacks was not a function of holding the ball too long, and I most definitely did not see fear-based panic mode. I saw Vernon Davis drop a 4th down pass that was on the money. I saw Demaryius Thomas continue to not be able to catch the ball, including at the goal line.

The only advantage I see with Manning is a better ability to set up the blocking schemes and a best-in-league ability to get the ball out quick. I guess if that's what the author is talking about - Brock doesn't get the ball out as fast as Manning, that's true but there are very few who do.

The Bronco O is impotent because Schofield sucks and was left 1v1 all day vs Mack, the guards can't stay healthy or maintain any continuity, DT suddenly can't catch (neither can Vernon Davis), and CJ Anderson has a twisted ankle. It's not Brock crumbling under pressure.

 
moleculo said:
Faust said:
Rotoworld:

Brock Osweiler completed 35-of-51 passes for 308 yards and rushed three times for ten yards in the Broncos' Week 14 loss to the Raiders.

The Denver offense has become increasingly painful to watch with Osweiler at the controls, so much so that the Broncos may have to give serious consideration to turning back to Peyton Manning once his foot heals. Holding the ball far too long in the pocket against the Raiders, Osweiler absorbed five sacks -- all by Khalil Mack -- and went into fear-based panic mode late in the game. Osweiler failed to engineer a single touchdown drive, with all 12 of Denver's points coming on Brandon McManus field goals. The Broncos head to Pittsburgh next. Osweiler is barely on the fantasy QB2 map.

Dec 13 - 7:29 PM
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who the hell writes this? Gotta wonder if the author watched the game.

Mack was in Osweilers face within 2 seconds - the 5 sacks was not a function of holding the ball too long, and I most definitely did not see fear-based panic mode. I saw Vernon Davis drop a 4th down pass that was on the money. I saw Demaryius Thomas continue to not be able to catch the ball, including at the goal line.

The only advantage I see with Manning is a better ability to set up the blocking schemes and a best-in-league ability to get the ball out quick. I guess if that's what the author is talking about - Brock doesn't get the ball out as fast as Manning, that's true but there are very few who do.

The Bronco O is impotent because Schofield sucks and was left 1v1 all day vs Mack, the guards can't stay healthy or maintain any continuity, DT suddenly can't catch (neither can Vernon Davis), and CJ Anderson has a twisted ankle. It's not Brock crumbling under pressure.
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while I hope it doesn't happen, it's still possible for Denver to implode and miss the playoffs. Most likely they'll beat San Diego and get in, but maybe not - the Chiefs, Jets and Steelers could all win out to finish 11-5. who gets the tiebreaker if all four are 11-5?

 
FUBAR said:
while I hope it doesn't happen, it's still possible for Denver to implode and miss the playoffs. Most likely they'll beat San Diego and get in, but maybe not - the Chiefs, Jets and Steelers could all win out to finish 11-5. who gets the tiebreaker if all four are 11-5?
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KC would win the division (division record)

PIT and NYJ would take the two WC (conference record)

 
FUBAR said:
moleculo said:
Faust said:
Rotoworld:

Brock Osweiler completed 35-of-51 passes for 308 yards and rushed three times for ten yards in the Broncos' Week 14 loss to the Raiders.

The Denver offense has become increasingly painful to watch with Osweiler at the controls, so much so that the Broncos may have to give serious consideration to turning back to Peyton Manning once his foot heals. Holding the ball far too long in the pocket against the Raiders, Osweiler absorbed five sacks -- all by Khalil Mack -- and went into fear-based panic mode late in the game. Osweiler failed to engineer a single touchdown drive, with all 12 of Denver's points coming on Brandon McManus field goals. The Broncos head to Pittsburgh next. Osweiler is barely on the fantasy QB2 map.

Dec 13 - 7:29 PM
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who the hell writes this? Gotta wonder if the author watched the game.

Mack was in Osweilers face within 2 seconds - the 5 sacks was not a function of holding the ball too long, and I most definitely did not see fear-based panic mode. I saw Vernon Davis drop a 4th down pass that was on the money. I saw Demaryius Thomas continue to not be able to catch the ball, including at the goal line.

The only advantage I see with Manning is a better ability to set up the blocking schemes and a best-in-league ability to get the ball out quick. I guess if that's what the author is talking about - Brock doesn't get the ball out as fast as Manning, that's true but there are very few who do.

The Bronco O is impotent because Schofield sucks and was left 1v1 all day vs Mack, the guards can't stay healthy or maintain any continuity, DT suddenly can't catch (neither can Vernon Davis), and CJ Anderson has a twisted ankle. It's not Brock crumbling under pressure.
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while I hope it doesn't happen, it's still possible for Denver to implode and miss the playoffs. Most likely they'll beat San Diego and get in, but maybe not - the Chiefs, Jets and Steelers could all win out to finish 11-5. who gets the tiebreaker if all four are 11-5?
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If Denver does not beat SD, they do not belong in the playoffs.

 
Rotoworld:

Brock Osweiler completed 21-of-44 passes for 296 yards, three touchdowns and an interception in the Broncos' 34-27, Week 15 loss to the Steelers, adding a rushing score.


It was the tail of two halves for Osweiler, who entered the break 14-of-18 for 214 passing yards and all four of his touchdowns. Running essentially a one-read offense, Osweiler relentlessly found the soft spots in Pittsburgh's coverage. Then he comprehensively crumbled, going 7-of-22 for 82 yards after the break. The Steelers didn't fear Osweiler's arm, bearing down on the box with relentless pressure. He was lucky to escape with only one interception. The Steelers dropped two more gimmes. Osweiler also fumbled a snap the Broncos managed to recover. Osweiler has now "led" the Broncos to zero second half points over the past three weeks. For what it's worth, he played through a tweaked non-throwing shoulder in the second half Sunday. Either way, if Peyton Manning's foot is healthy, the Broncos will think long and hard about starting him against the Bengals.


Dec 20 - 8:03 PM
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Rotoworld:

Brock Osweiler - QB - Broncos

Broncos coach Gary Kubiak said Monday he is "looking for more consistency" at the quarterback position.

For the second straight week, Kubiak has declined to announce his starter early in the week. Kubiak said he believes Brock Osweiler has played well in "spurts," but that apparently hasn't been enough for Kubiak to yet commit to Osweiler as the Broncos' going-forward starter. Kubiak's decision may ultimately hinge on Peyton Manning's health. Manning seemingly experienced a setback in his recovery from plantar fasciitis late last week.

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Dec 21 - 5:29 PM
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I don't know. For a guy who is essentially a rookie when it comes to game time experience. I think he has done fairly well.

 
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Ditka Butkus said:
I don't know. For a guy who is essentially a rookie when it comes to game time experience. I think he has done fairly well.
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Agreed. He looks like a very capable NFL starting QB. But I will say the huge deterioration in performance in the second half of games is concerning. Is it Kubiak failing to adjust to the defensive adjustments at half time?
 
So if teams are adjusting that well to him in just the 2nd half of games, how is he going to fare going up against his divisional opponents 2nd time around? Not good.

 
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fred_1_15301 said:
So if teams are adjusting that well to him in just the 2nd half of games, how is he going to fare going up against his divisional opponents 2nd time around? Not good.
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It is a limited sample but its also a significant statistical number right now where it stands. I mean three times worse than the bottom guy is undeniably awful but its a limited sample and is sure to improve so we will have to see where it levels out. However, it is a bad enough number to catch your attention and keep an eye on.

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Evan Silva ‏@evansilva 21h21 hours ago
Among 38 qualifiers, @PFF's bottom-5 graded QBs over the last 6 weeks: 34. Gabbert 35. Osweiler 36. Cassel 37. Cutler 38. Foles

 
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At this point, Osweiler almost has to stay as the starter:

-The Broncos run the ball much better when he is playing.

-He doesn't turn the ball over nearly as much as Peyton was this season (Brock - 4 INTs in 6 starts; Peyton 17 INTs in 9 starts).

With their D, having a QB who plays it safe and can makes plays when needed, is the way to go. Osweiler still holds on to the ball too long at times, taking unnecessary sacks and hits, but better than doing what some young QBs do and just panicking and chucking a bunch of INTs. If Peyton was still the Peyton of 1998-November 2014, this wouldn't even be a discussion, but Peyton just needs to tap out to Father Time and accept it.

 
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Wondering if Os has done enough for the Broncos to be willing to give him the reins in 2016, or if they go after a new shiny rookie in the draft. Certainly the best option on the roster right now, but feels like the playoffs might be his last chance to nail down the job.

 
Arodin said:
Wondering if Os has done enough for the Broncos to be willing to give him the reins in 2016, or if they go after a new shiny rookie in the draft. Certainly the best option on the roster right now, but feels like the playoffs might be his last chance to nail down the job.
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They'll likely draft a backup with potential, but he's done enough to get the job next year. Agree that the playoffs can lock him in, but unless he completely bombs he won't lose the job heading into the offseason.

 
FUBAR said:
Arodin said:
Wondering if Os has done enough for the Broncos to be willing to give him the reins in 2016, or if they go after a new shiny rookie in the draft. Certainly the best option on the roster right now, but feels like the playoffs might be his last chance to nail down the job.
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They'll likely draft a backup with potential, but he's done enough to get the job next year. Agree that the playoffs can lock him in, but unless he completely bombs he won't lose the job heading into the offseason.
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Has he?

 
So what do people think Brock's future looks like? Personally I think he (obviously) still has some things to learn but physically has the skills to be a decent QB. Has he done enough to get a team to make him an offer?

 
j3r3m3y said:
So what do people think Brock's future looks like? Personally I think he (obviously) still has some things to learn but physically has the skills to be a decent QB. Has he done enough to get a team to make him an offer?
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He has all the tools physically. What Manning showed yesterday is a knowledge of the game, blitzes, checking out if plays, audibles that Brock still needs a ton of work on. Obviously Manning is one of the best ever at the cerebral part of QB but as we all saw, Brock holds the ball too long and other teams seem to be able to adjust and shut him down for long stretches. I would like to see him after a full off season of work if he knows he will be the starting quarterback for a team. You need to practice as if you are the starter and spend time learning the playbook and audibles and blitz protections. This is why backups come in and lighted up for a game or two but then get figured out because they haven't had months to practice adjustments like the starter usually does.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
FUBAR said:
Arodin said:
Wondering if Os has done enough for the Broncos to be willing to give him the reins in 2016, or if they go after a new shiny rookie in the draft. Certainly the best option on the roster right now, but feels like the playoffs might be his last chance to nail down the job.
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They'll likely draft a backup with potential, but he's done enough to get the job next year. Agree that the playoffs can lock him in, but unless he completely bombs he won't lose the job heading into the offseason.
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Has he?
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To get a chance, I think so.

But if his salary demand is high they probably will look elsewhere.

 
massraider said:
Is this guy really going to leave Denver?  
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Probably not.  Best chance for him to win is in Denver and what else are Denver's options that are ready to fit in.  Not a big Osweiler fan but Denver has no better options and O and his agent know this.

 
moleculo said:
RG3 or Kaepernick.
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Yup.

Cecil Lammey was asked about this yesterday.

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Cecil Lammey ‏@CecilLammey  Mar 4
Cecil Lammey Retweeted SANCHO
nope, he's likely going to the #Eagles  - trade for Kaepernick most likely if Brock bolts  Cecil Lammey added,
SANCHO @Jay_MileHigh
@CecilLammey If Brock walks, Chase Daniels a real option for Broncos?
 

 
massraider said:
Is this guy really going to leave Denver?  
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Its all about the money

Denver was caught with a lot of UFA this year. Miller, Malik Jackson, Trevathan, Brock.

I imagine if the money/terms are similar he would stay in Denver. If not, Houston or Cleveland can probably spend a lot more.

 
I won't blame Osweiler is he takes more money from a team like Cleveland, as this could be the biggest pay day he'll ever get, but he has a much greater chance of long term success in Denver and therefore would be wiser to stay there.  

One unknown factor, too, is how pissed or stung he was about not getting the starting job back after he struggled early against the Chargers in week 17.  I mean, without those comebacks against NE and Cincinnati, the Broncos don't win the division, get the 1 seed, and probably don't win the Super Bowl, so he might have felt a little snubbed.  We'll see what happens. 

 
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