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it's not out of elway's character.
it's not out of elway's character.
that might be a key. Aside from Rodgers, few can follow a HOF QB and be labeled a success.The money is important but so is not being compared to Peyton and having anything but a Super Bowl appearance his fault.
I agree with this. It is a great deal for him, but I have a sneaking feeling Houston fans are going to be longing for the Hoyer days when this is all said and done.Good for Brock. That's an awesome contract for him.
I'm surprised by your post only because I nearly always find myself in complete agreement wit you, and here I do not. I thought he did very well under adverse circumstances. he played some tough games, against tough defenses, and sometimes at tough venues and under sometimes less than ideal weather. I thought he showed a lot., not Aaron Rodgers stuff, but maybe Flacco or Matt Ryan stuff.I agree with this. It is a great deal for him, but I have a sneaking feeling Houston fans are going to be longing for the Hoyer days when this is all said and done.
As a lifelong Bronco fan, I have see every play from Brock. He just has never impressed me that much. His release is weird because of his size and I personally believe this causes a lot of wide receiver drops. His durability could be an issue because he is such a big target and takes big hits. He gets really antsy in the pocket and will tuck and run often. His long ball has a lot to be desired.
I personally was comfortable with him being the QB this year, because Denver finished so low last year in the passing game and still got a Super Bowl. All they needed is a serviceable body back there to not hurt the team.
However, he is going to a team that is looking for him to be the savior for that offense and that's got to be a lot of pressure. After all the woes Houston has endured with the quarterback position, I don't think the fans are going to have a lot of patience with him.
if Denver can land FitzPatrick for a 2 year stint and draft a QB or even continue developing Trevor, I think Denver is going to be better off in the long run, but that is my opinion only.
He doesn't have to be a savior on offense for Houston, he just has to be better than the steaming pile they have trotted out the last few years. Fitz, Yates, Hoyer, Mallet, and I forget the others already. He'll be doing the same thing Denver asked him to do, take care of the football and at least be functional while running game and the #3 ranked defense takes care of the rest. The way the contract is structured, if he can't do that, Houston can cut him after only 2 seasons with little ramifications.I agree with this. It is a great deal for him, but I have a sneaking feeling Houston fans are going to be longing for the Hoyer days when this is all said and done.
As a lifelong Bronco fan, I have see every play from Brock. He just has never impressed me that much. His release is weird because of his size and I personally believe this causes a lot of wide receiver drops. His durability could be an issue because he is such a big target and takes big hits. He gets really antsy in the pocket and will tuck and run often. His long ball has a lot to be desired.
I personally was comfortable with him being the QB this year, because Denver finished so low last year in the passing game and still got a Super Bowl. All they needed is a serviceable body back there to not hurt the team.
However, he is going to a team that is looking for him to be the savior for that offense and that's got to be a lot of pressure. After all the woes Houston has endured with the quarterback position, I don't think the fans are going to have a lot of patience with him.
if Denver can land FitzPatrick for a 2 year stint and draft a QB or even continue developing Trevor, I think Denver is going to be better off in the long run, but that is my opinion only.
I don't know that they should be thrilled. If they get Kaep or RG3 cheaper AND they play great, then sure they should be thrilled. But neither Denver nor Houston thought either of those two were better options or they wouldn't have gone after Osweiler first.
Brock 25 years old. last year: 8 games 170 of 275 for 1967 yards 10 tds and 6 int 61.8% 4 years 72 million with 37 million guaranteed.
Who am I talking about here?
last year 8 games 26 year old QB 178 of 282 for 2031 yards 10 tds and 7 int 63.1% 2 years 4 million with 500,000 guaranteed.
hint: Houston you could have had Blaine Gabbert
we've seen 35 games from Blaine, enough to know he's not the answer. Maybe Os is, maybe not, but he has a better chance of being a franchise QB.Regrets, I've had a few
But then again, too few to mention
I did what I had to do
And saw it through without exemption
I planned each charted course
Each careful step along the byway
And more, much more than this
I did it my way
Yes, there were times, I'm sure you knew
When I bit off more than I could chew
But through it all, when there was doubt
I ate it up and spit it out
I faced it all and I stood tall
And did it my way
That's doing what I'm criticizing the articles for doing with Hoyer's QB rating last year.Courtjester said:Brock 25 years old. last year: 8 games 170 of 275 for 1967 yards 10 tds and 6 int 61.8% 4 years 72 million with 37 million guaranteed.
Who am I talking about here?
last year 8 games 26 year old QB 178 of 282 for 2031 yards 10 tds and 7 int 63.1% 2 years 4 million with 500,000 guaranteed.
hint: Houston you could have had Blaine Gabbert
So who would you rather have as your QB, Mark Sanchez, Brock Osweiler, Brian Hoyer, Blaine Gabbert or a rookie that has not played a down in the NFLI agree with this. It is a great deal for him, but I have a sneaking feeling Houston fans are going to be longing for the Hoyer days when this is all said and done.
As a lifelong Bronco fan, I have see every play from Brock. He just has never impressed me that much. His release is weird because of his size and I personally believe this causes a lot of wide receiver drops. His durability could be an issue because he is such a big target and takes big hits. He gets really antsy in the pocket and will tuck and run often. His long ball has a lot to be desired.
I personally was comfortable with him being the QB this year, because Denver finished so low last year in the passing game and still got a Super Bowl. All they needed is a serviceable body back there to not hurt the team.
However, he is going to a team that is looking for him to be the savior for that offense and that's got to be a lot of pressure. After all the woes Houston has endured with the quarterback position, I don't think the fans are going to have a lot of patience with him.
if Denver can land FitzPatrick for a 2 year stint and draft a QB or even continue developing Trevor, I think Denver is going to be better off in the long run, but that is my opinion only.
Apparently your GM does not share your opinion.I agree with this. It is a great deal for him, but I have a sneaking feeling Houston fans are going to be longing for the Hoyer days when this is all said and done.
As a lifelong Bronco fan, I have see every play from Brock. He just has never impressed me that much. His release is weird because of his size and I personally believe this causes a lot of wide receiver drops. His durability could be an issue because he is such a big target and takes big hits. He gets really antsy in the pocket and will tuck and run often. His long ball has a lot to be desired.
I personally was comfortable with him being the QB this year, because Denver finished so low last year in the passing game and still got a Super Bowl. All they needed is a serviceable body back there to not hurt the team.
However, he is going to a team that is looking for him to be the savior for that offense and that's got to be a lot of pressure. After all the woes Houston has endured with the quarterback position, I don't think the fans are going to have a lot of patience with him.
if Denver can land FitzPatrick for a 2 year stint and draft a QB or even continue developing Trevor, I think Denver is going to be better off in the long run, but that is my opinion only.
The Broncos will be an interesting team to watch in the first couple of days in free agency. Denver has two of the top players in free agency, and after the Broncos franchise-tagged Von Miller, defensive end Malik Jackson and quarterback Brock Osweiler could be stolen by aggressive teams. It is likely that Jackson will sign elsewhere, for as much as $15 million a season. Osweiler, however, will be Denver’s prime target, and you should expect him to be re-signed by John Elway. The Broncos GM is convinced Osweiler can be a star.
Denver offered him $16MM a year.Courtjester said:Brock 25 years old. last year: 8 games 170 of 275 for 1967 yards 10 tds and 6 int 61.8% 4 years 72 million with 37 million guaranteed.
Who am I talking about here?
last year 8 games 26 year old QB 178 of 282 for 2031 yards 10 tds and 7 int 63.1% 2 years 4 million with 500,000 guaranteed.
hint: Houston you could have had Blaine Gabbert
"...Bottom line, I made my decision off where I felt like I could have the most success playing quarterback in the NFL and where I could go and win long-term."
The two reasons he went to Houston? The extra $2 million a year he would get while there.
Hard to understand how a guy can think his best chance to win is NOT with a Class A franchise that has been to many super bowls and won several vs. a team that has never done anything."...Bottom line, I made my decision off where I felt like I could have the most success playing quarterback in the NFL and where I could go and win long-term."
FWIW, I think he's right.
Money has to be key for sure. But the Texans seem to be a team on the rise who just made it into the playoffs with nobody at qb. You might say the same about Denver, but I actually think the Texans are a better team today than the broncos, even leaving qb out of the discussion. As a franchise you're right, the Texans don't have anywhere close to the broncos track record.Hard to understand how a guy can think his best chance to win is NOT with a Class A franchise that has been to many super bowls and won several vs. a team that has never done anything.
I know we all start somewhere but I think the "reason" is bs. The answer my friends is that it is ALWAYS about the money.
I thought they lost a couple lineman.....can you explain the upgrade?I was able to pick up Brock for a 2017 2nd round rookie pick. He thinks he made a good deal, I think I got a steal.
Those that think Os will be a mid 20's fantasy QB are going to be very surprised. With an upgraded OLine and the weapons he has on offense I will be shocked if he is not a top 10 fantasy QB.
There seems to be a lot of hate for him, he is going to surprise a lot of "experts".
I actually have to laugh at all the FBG forecasts. They make me not have a lot of faith in any of their forecasts.
Texans lost Brandon Brooks (G) and Ben Jones (C) to free agency. They acquired Jeff Allen (G) and Tony Bergstrom (C).I thought they lost a couple lineman.....can you explain the upgrade?