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BROWNS 2007 THREAD (1 Viewer)
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SteveInChicago
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Braylon Edwards 10/125/2, book it.-Braylon Edwards owner since 10/2006not to be a downer, but i'm almost afraid to watch the game sunday.
The Man with the Plan
Footballguy
Ben Roethlisberger had 4 td passes against the Browns. Carson Palmer had 6. So that means Brady should be good for 7 or 8 right?
SteveInChicago
Footballguy
What's the chance one of these records fall?
Most Yards Gained, Game
336 Willie Anderson, L.A. Rams vs. New Orleans, Nov. 26, 1989 (OT)
Most Pass Receptions, Game
20 Terrell Owens, San Francisco vs. Chicago, Dec. 17, 2000
Most Touchdowns, Game (receiving)
5 Bob Shaw, Chi. Cardinals vs. Baltimore, Oct. 2, 1950
Kellen Winslow, San Diego vs. Oakland, Nov. 22, 1981
Jerry Rice, San Francisco vs. Atlanta, Oct. 14, 1990
Highest Completion Percentage, Game (20 attempts)
91.30 Vinny Testaverde, Cleveland vs. L.A. Rams, Dec. 26, 1993 (23-21)
Most Yards Gained, Game
554 Norm Van Brocklin, Los Angeles vs. N.Y. Yanks, Sept. 28, 1951
Most Touchdown Passes, Game
7 Sid Luckman, Chi. Bears vs. N.Y. Giants, Nov. 14, 1943
Adrian Burk, Philadelphia vs. Washington, Oct. 17, 1954
George Blanda, Houston vs. N.Y. Titans, Nov. 19, 1961
Y.A. Tittle, N.Y. Giants vs. Washington, Oct. 28, 1962
Joe Kapp, Minnesota vs. Baltimore, Sept. 28, 1969
Most Yards Gained, Game
336 Willie Anderson, L.A. Rams vs. New Orleans, Nov. 26, 1989 (OT)
Most Pass Receptions, Game
20 Terrell Owens, San Francisco vs. Chicago, Dec. 17, 2000
Most Touchdowns, Game (receiving)
5 Bob Shaw, Chi. Cardinals vs. Baltimore, Oct. 2, 1950
Kellen Winslow, San Diego vs. Oakland, Nov. 22, 1981
Jerry Rice, San Francisco vs. Atlanta, Oct. 14, 1990
Highest Completion Percentage, Game (20 attempts)
91.30 Vinny Testaverde, Cleveland vs. L.A. Rams, Dec. 26, 1993 (23-21)
Most Yards Gained, Game
554 Norm Van Brocklin, Los Angeles vs. N.Y. Yanks, Sept. 28, 1951
Most Touchdown Passes, Game
7 Sid Luckman, Chi. Bears vs. N.Y. Giants, Nov. 14, 1943
Adrian Burk, Philadelphia vs. Washington, Oct. 17, 1954
George Blanda, Houston vs. N.Y. Titans, Nov. 19, 1961
Y.A. Tittle, N.Y. Giants vs. Washington, Oct. 28, 1962
Joe Kapp, Minnesota vs. Baltimore, Sept. 28, 1969
nxmehta
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not to be a downer, but i'm almost afraid to watch the game sunday.
Seriously! Funnily enough though I'm going to be on a plane while the Browns are playing, so I don't have to watch us get embarrassed live 
On a side note, what happened with the other thread? I thought I saw something about BGP being banned... is that true?
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wadegarrett
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what happened to the old thread?Browns 31Cheaters 30since there were, ahem, issues with the old thread, i thought i would start a new one.please post all your
amnesiac
beer is good
pollardsvision
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i'm not a browns fan, but i find them to be a hard team not to root for.
i like how romeo's building this team and i'm glad to see him/them doing well. it was fun watching romeo pull the genius' pants down on sunday (the genius is brian billick, in case some of you have forgotten what a genius he is).
good for the browns and their wonderful fans.
week 5 may not be pretty (they face a legitimate genius), but i hope and think the browns can put together a nice season.
i like how romeo's building this team and i'm glad to see him/them doing well. it was fun watching romeo pull the genius' pants down on sunday (the genius is brian billick, in case some of you have forgotten what a genius he is).
good for the browns and their wonderful fans.
week 5 may not be pretty (they face a legitimate genius), but i hope and think the browns can put together a nice season.
Bobcat10
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pollardsvision
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and it's hard not to pull for a the "suddenly just keeping the seat warm for a pretty boy 1st round pick QB" QB like derek anderson (see drew brees 2004).
derek was the starting QB in the championship game for my championship team last year, so he will always hold a special place in my heart. i hope he keeps giving an FU to his doubters.
derek was the starting QB in the championship game for my championship team last year, so he will always hold a special place in my heart. i hope he keeps giving an FU to his doubters.
Random
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I'll take the Browns +41.5 for 100K please. TIA.
dancingbones
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Well, I can't say that I'm optimistic here, but it would be GREAT if the Browns could pull this one out somehow. It would be a huge boost for this team that is suddenly discovering what it is like to win. 
dirtywaters20
Footballguy
Eagles' fan here rooting for the Browns. Two reasons: lower draft pick for the Cowboys next year, good football town & fans deserve it. Go Browns.
Peak
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I've kind of already written this week off. I think the Browns will be competitive, but no way can they stop Moss and Brady. I would think a 35-17 kind of score is accurate. Browns will score a few, but not enough.Having said that, the Miami game before the bye is winnable for this club. Going 3-3 into the bye is a better start than most would have predicted. Looking at the rest of the schedule, I would agree that an 8-8 or 9-7 season is do-able. If the Browns can make that big of a turn around, I would only hope that the 08 team would be playoff bound. But I guess we'll see.
Bobcat10
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Yes I hope so to, which leads me to recall a post here yesterday that I wrote in the Crennel apology thread. If that is the case this year, then '08 is either playoffs or Crennel is fired. There is no in between.Peak said:Bobcat10 said:I've kind of already written this week off. I think the Browns will be competitive, but no way can they stop Moss and Brady. I would think a 35-17 kind of score is accurate. Browns will score a few, but not enough.Having said that, the Miami game before the bye is winnable for this club. Going 3-3 into the bye is a better start than most would have predicted. Looking at the rest of the schedule, I would agree that an 8-8 or 9-7 season is do-able. If the Browns can make that big of a turn around, I would only hope that the 08 team would be playoff bound. But I guess we'll see.
Fallerjw
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I would have to think this is true. He will have had plenty of time and money put into getting his guys at that point. If it doesn't pan out he'll be gone.Yes I hope so to, which leads me to recall a post here yesterday that I wrote in the Crennel apology thread. If that is the case this year, then '08 is either playoffs or Crennel is fired. There is no in between.Peak said:Bobcat10 said:I've kind of already written this week off. I think the Browns will be competitive, but no way can they stop Moss and Brady. I would think a 35-17 kind of score is accurate. Browns will score a few, but not enough.
Having said that, the Miami game before the bye is winnable for this club. Going 3-3 into the bye is a better start than most would have predicted. Looking at the rest of the schedule, I would agree that an 8-8 or 9-7 season is do-able. If the Browns can make that big of a turn around, I would only hope that the 08 team would be playoff bound. But I guess we'll see.
Bracie Smathers
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The Pats come out throwing to get the lead and then switch to the run game and play field position/clock management once they get the safeties back in coverage. Randy Moss is the key early on but the Pats are going to test rookie CB Eric Wright with Donte Stallworth or are at least making noise about that so more than likely they will pull a Constanza and do the opposite and try to go over the top of Lee Bodden with Moss.The real story is Derek Anderson in only his seventh start going up against the New England deep cover-two defense. DA's had issues with reading coverages and throwing into double/tripple/quadruple coverage and he has thrown some fugly INTs to LBers who had flooded zones deep. The Pats flood zones and disguise coverage packages like nobodies bidnezz. The ace in the hole is KWII. He was made to bust seems in a cover-two. The problem is he's dealing with a separated shoulder. He'll play cause he's a souldja but he's not 100%. Still he played with it last week and had his career longest reception which was more of a catch and run for thirty yards. KWII is without doubt playing at a Pro Bowl level and should be #1 on everyone's ballat. Braylon can beat Samuel unless DA caves to pressure. Anderson can get a case of the jitters and you can see it from the first snap. I think in this case no one expects him or the team to play well so that takes pressure off of him. He could end up playing great but he really is just wet behind the ears. This is only his seventh start and any QB making their seventh start has issues reading defenses let alone a veteran/well coached defense playing at the top of its game. I have been saying all along I expect the Browns to wind up 7-9 and was accused of being a Homer. The Browns are better than people realize but they have holes and are working out some issues with the rookie CB and still are developing Derek Anderson and trying to get some consistency in the running game. The holes are on the defense, specifically the defensive line which is old and doesn't have talent in the pipeline. Cracks have erroded into holes in stopping the run and their hasn't been a pass rush in years. Kam Wimbley is legit but their hasn't been backside pressure so OCs roll protection his way and negate his rush. Antwan Peek has had a foot injury and ancient Willie McGhinnest is finally coming back so he may be able to apply some pressure to Brady but I doubt that opens up the pass rush, especially this weekend. Nobody gives the Browns a chance so I'm just hoping it turns into a good contest.since there were, ahem, issues with the old thread, i thought i would start a new one.please post all yourstuff here.
Beau Tocks
Footballguy
Kellen Winslow, he should be busy.
11/110/1
11/110/1
Bobcat10
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I'm opposite here. I don't think there are very lofty expectations for this week. If the Browns are competitive for a half or 3Qs, that will be OK with most people. The issue will be more if we lose to the Phins the following week.
s_ezy
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agreedthe fans in cleveland are happy right now to be 2-2 with september behind us. not many in cleveland expected that, if we lose to the Pats, so be it, but there is absolutely no pressure on the browns to go out and beat the Pats in NE. this could be a better game than most are expecting it to be.
Browns Rule!
Footballguy
I think they can stop Moss. Remember 2 years ago when Chad Johnson was at his best, and made a checklist of which corners stopped him? 15 of the 16 weeks, Chad Johnson won the CB battle, the only week he gave to a corner that shut him down was Leigh Bodden when they played Cleveland. Bodden really comes to play in the big games, and I think he will really surprise some people this week. I say he holds Moss under 100 with 0 TDs this week.Peak said:Bobcat10 said:
Browns Rule!
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If I were the coach, because of this reason, every kickoff would be an onside kick.
Bracie Smathers
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For the Crennel bashers.
NFL.COM VOTERS SELECT
CLEVELAND BROWNS HEAD COACH ROMEO CRENNEL
AS WEEK 4 MOTOROLA NFL COACH OF THE WEEK
Head coach ROMEO CRENNEL of the Cleveland Browns is the MOTOROLA NFL COACH OF THE WEEK for games played on September 30 – October 1, the NFL announced today.
Crennel led the Browns to a 27-13 victory over the Baltimore Ravens. With their second win over a division opponent this month, the Browns (2-2) looked smart. QB Derek Anderson threw two TD passes in the first quarter -- one a 78-yarder to Edwards -- as the Browns built a 14-0 lead in the first quarter and then made enough plays to hold off the Ravens (2-2). Cleveland’s offensive protection was solid enough so that Baltimore's fearsome defense didn't record a sack.
Crennel was selected as Motorola NFL Coach of the Week from among three finalists by voters on NFL.com. The other finalists were head coaches BOBBY PETRINO of the Atlanta Falcons and KEN WHISENHUNT of the Arizona Cardinals.
In January, voting will be held on NFL.com to determine the Motorola NFL Coach of the Year.
2007 Motorola NFL Coach of the Week
Wk. 1
Mike Tomlin, Pittsburgh Steelers
Wk. 2
Mike McCarthy, Green Bay Packers
Wk. 3
Mike Tomlin, Pittsburgh Steelers
Wk. 4
Romeo Crennel, Cleveland Browns
NFL.COM VOTERS SELECT
CLEVELAND BROWNS HEAD COACH ROMEO CRENNEL
AS WEEK 4 MOTOROLA NFL COACH OF THE WEEK
Head coach ROMEO CRENNEL of the Cleveland Browns is the MOTOROLA NFL COACH OF THE WEEK for games played on September 30 – October 1, the NFL announced today.
Crennel led the Browns to a 27-13 victory over the Baltimore Ravens. With their second win over a division opponent this month, the Browns (2-2) looked smart. QB Derek Anderson threw two TD passes in the first quarter -- one a 78-yarder to Edwards -- as the Browns built a 14-0 lead in the first quarter and then made enough plays to hold off the Ravens (2-2). Cleveland’s offensive protection was solid enough so that Baltimore's fearsome defense didn't record a sack.
Crennel was selected as Motorola NFL Coach of the Week from among three finalists by voters on NFL.com. The other finalists were head coaches BOBBY PETRINO of the Atlanta Falcons and KEN WHISENHUNT of the Arizona Cardinals.
In January, voting will be held on NFL.com to determine the Motorola NFL Coach of the Year.
2007 Motorola NFL Coach of the Week
Wk. 1
Mike Tomlin, Pittsburgh Steelers
Wk. 2
Mike McCarthy, Green Bay Packers
Wk. 3
Mike Tomlin, Pittsburgh Steelers
Wk. 4
Romeo Crennel, Cleveland Browns
Since Derek Anderson's been the QB, the Browns have Outscored the Bengals. I see no reason why the Browns can't score 3 TD's against the Pats. The Pats haven't played a Team with a Winning Record. Their Defense isn't as good as it's looked.
The Browns have a 30% chance to win, but a 60% chance to put up 21+ points.
Look for Jamal Lewis to have 100+ yards in this one.
The Browns have a 30% chance to win, but a 60% chance to put up 21+ points.
Look for Jamal Lewis to have 100+ yards in this one.
eom
Footballguy
uh.....so, since they lit up the bengals d, they should do the same to every other team they play.....?
you actually think the pats d is the same as the bengals d??
how would you rate the pats d from last year, and do you think 2007 is a better or worse team?
and while we're at it, who has the better offense -- pats or bengals?
how did the bengals look playing the pats last week?
this is travis henry, isn't it?
you actually think the pats d is the same as the bengals d??
how would you rate the pats d from last year, and do you think 2007 is a better or worse team?
and while we're at it, who has the better offense -- pats or bengals?
how did the bengals look playing the pats last week?
this is travis henry, isn't it?
twitch
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SeniorVBDStudent
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Where did your coach work before going to Cleveland?I'm just saying....what happened to the old thread?Browns 31Cheaters 30since there were, ahem, issues with the old thread, i thought i would start a new one.please post all yourstuff here.
thehornet
Footballguy
SLOWLY...Put down the bong.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Greg, you've misspelled your own name. Just so you know...Gerg73 said:
What does the Bengals D have to do with anything?You would've said the same thing if I predicted 3 TD's against the Ravens in the First half also.eom said:
Do you REALLY think the Pats Defense is as good as their Stats look? What Offense have they played?
The Bills, Jets, Chargers and Bengals?? WOW!
Throw out the 45 points the Bengals scored on us, and they've been slightly above average. The Bills, Chargers and Jets Offenses are a MESS.
We'll see tomorrow. All I'm saying is, Start Anderson, Lewis, Edwards and Winslow with Confidence. The Pats aren't the '85 Bears, despite what ESPN wants you to believe.
amnesiac
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well, not a terrible game by the Browns, but the Pats did look a little disinterested for the middle part of the game.
Anderson continued his trend of good throw, bad throw, good throw, interception.
overall though, not the embarassment many expected, and if not for a late fumble returned for a TD, they would have been the first team to hold the Patriots under 30 points.
Anderson continued his trend of good throw, bad throw, good throw, interception.
overall though, not the embarassment many expected, and if not for a late fumble returned for a TD, they would have been the first team to hold the Patriots under 30 points.
eom
Footballguy
hahahahaah...now, that's a funny post.throw out the 45 pts the bengals scored on us....hahahahaha!!and to answer your question - yes.
Browns Rule!
Footballguy
The Browns would have won that game (or come very close) if not for 1 thing. Turnovers. You can't lose the turnover battle 4-0 and beat a bad team, nevertheless, a good team. We had the ball first and goal at the 1, and turned it over (1 other pass was almost picked off). They truely only lost by 10 (that fumble at the end of the game was in desperation). Anyhow, I think this game gives us hope. The defense wasn't that bad, especially considering the turnovers.
Fallerjw
Footballguy
I would agree with this. The more I watch the Browns this year, the better I feel about the future. I feel like the turnover situation will get remedied when the Brady Quinn era begins. Here's a comparison of DA and BQ's college stats:
DA: 79 TD 57 INT
BQ: 95 TD 39 INT
Derek has been a "risk taker" his whole career. He's thrown a lot of interceptions. Brady is more likely to take care of the ball and keep us in the big games. I'm cautiosly optimistic about the short term future, but very optimistic about the future of the organization.
DA: 79 TD 57 INT
BQ: 95 TD 39 INT
Derek has been a "risk taker" his whole career. He's thrown a lot of interceptions. Brady is more likely to take care of the ball and keep us in the big games. I'm cautiosly optimistic about the short term future, but very optimistic about the future of the organization.
Browns Rule!
Footballguy
Looking at their schedule, unless bad things happen, there next two games are against winless teams, Miami and St. Louis. Say they keep these teams winless, which they should, they would be 4-3.
There next 3 games are against Seattle, Pitt, and Baltimore. Say they pull one of these 3 out, they are now 5-5 with 6 games left.
They then finish the year with what looks to be a very favorable schedule: Houston, @Arizona, @New York Jets, Buffalo, @Cincinnati, and finish the year against SF. If they can get 5 of these 6, which are all very winnable games, it is playoff time!
There next 3 games are against Seattle, Pitt, and Baltimore. Say they pull one of these 3 out, they are now 5-5 with 6 games left.
They then finish the year with what looks to be a very favorable schedule: Houston, @Arizona, @New York Jets, Buffalo, @Cincinnati, and finish the year against SF. If they can get 5 of these 6, which are all very winnable games, it is playoff time!
amnesiac
beer is good
alright, we've got the Dolphins coming up this weekend, likely minus Trent Green.
meanwhile, it seems the Browns may be without Jamal Lewis.
they have Cleo Lemon, while we have Jason Wright.
Miami is winless, while the Browns are 2-3, and have been competitive.
despite the fact that the Dolphins are hungry, i think the Browns are starting to get a taste of what it's like to win, and they will go after this W hard.
meanwhile, it seems the Browns may be without Jamal Lewis.
they have Cleo Lemon, while we have Jason Wright.
Miami is winless, while the Browns are 2-3, and have been competitive.
despite the fact that the Dolphins are hungry, i think the Browns are starting to get a taste of what it's like to win, and they will go after this W hard.
amnesiac
beer is good
the Browns have given up an average of 110 rushing yards per game and only one rushing touchdown in five games.i don't think they have a lot to fear out of Miami's passing game, so they may be able to stack against the run.
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