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Portis 26
Madden Freak
You pose these questions as though there were a definitive answer. There isn't. No-one knows. The guy had a solid career in college but he was a low-round pick. He's smart and productive. He won some praise from Gruden in pre-season. Who knows? He'll probably start the rest of the year and he'll probably surprise some folks a bit by being OK, not great, but not awful either. But your guess is as good as mine.
would you pick him up
Portis 26
Madden Freak
If I were desperate for a QB, sure. If I already had several established starters, no.
shakeybarn
Footballguy
Exactly.Portis26, what answer do you want to hear? don't mean that harshly, but it's all conjecture at this point. the best anyone here can do is sound like an NFL scouting report on a rook.. which is where we are at. Let's see how he looks, how the opposing D game planned and carried out, how he reacted, ... near misses vs pure failure, and even then it's one game.
Capella
Footballguy
I'm on record as saying this will be an unmitigated disaster for the Bucs, at least certainly early on. There's a reason superstars, highly drafted players such as Peyton Manning, Palmer, McNabb all either sit out or get killed their first year -- and those guys were all highly touted coming on. Grads was not.
Seen some people here compare him to Roethlisberger's (no idea how to spell that) first year, but that's clearly not the same. The Bucs don't have the same OLine or running game.
I think this guy is looking at a 7-22 for 85 yards and 2 INT type performance tomorrow, and for the near future, but I'll certainly be happy if I'm wrong.
Seen some people here compare him to Roethlisberger's (no idea how to spell that) first year, but that's clearly not the same. The Bucs don't have the same OLine or running game.
I think this guy is looking at a 7-22 for 85 yards and 2 INT type performance tomorrow, and for the near future, but I'll certainly be happy if I'm wrong.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Peyton Manning has started from day 1 and has never missed a game. He struggled in the first half of his rookie year, but then went on to set rookie passing records in the 2nd half.
Capella
Footballguy
Soooo...hence the bolded part. He went through quite a bit of hard times in year 1.
Capella
Footballguy
How could he not be? Are you serious? Maybe late in the year. The next few weeks are going to be maybe the worst quarterbacking since Dilfer's first few games.
The odds are stacked against Gradkowski doing well tomorrow or even this year.
Most low round qbs forced into service don't do well. For every Tom Brady, there are hundreds on of qbs that are not that good to downright dismal.
Most rookie qbs forced into action don't do well. For every Peyton Manning and Ben R., there are hundreds of qbs that are not that good to downright dismal.
You never know what will happen, but I picked up the New Orleans D just in case Gradkowski and TB have a putrid performance. In our league, defense can score a ton of points if they have a great game.
Most low round qbs forced into service don't do well. For every Tom Brady, there are hundreds on of qbs that are not that good to downright dismal.
Most rookie qbs forced into action don't do well. For every Peyton Manning and Ben R., there are hundreds of qbs that are not that good to downright dismal.
You never know what will happen, but I picked up the New Orleans D just in case Gradkowski and TB have a putrid performance. In our league, defense can score a ton of points if they have a great game.
maybe alot like charlie frye, not great but not bad. he does have m clayton and galloway
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Wheelhouse
Footballguy
Gradkowski's Prospect Profile from NFL.com Not exactly glowing praises... 
SUMMARY
Gradkowski is the ultimate when it comes to toughness, competitiveness and leadership for a quarterback which is what gives him a chance to have a career as a backup in the NFL. He is shorter than ideal and, because the ball does not burst out of his hand, defensive linemen can get their hands up quick enough to bat down passes at the line of scrimmage when he passes from the pocket. His athleticism helps him to move well in the pocket and to get out of the pocket, and he is an accurate short passer, but the trouble is that he struggles to throw accurately on medium/deep throws when he has to put zip on passes. He probably will not be able to start in the NFL, but with his athleticism, competitiveness and mental intangibles he should become a good backup/third quarterback.
STRONG POINTS
Gradkowski is a tough and highly competitive quarterback who consistently has shown a willingness to take the big hit to make the play -- whether it is standing in the pocket or scrambling with the ball. He is a smart and instinctive quarterback who consistently stays poised and does not panic under pressure. He is a very good athlete who has consistently shown the ability to get out of the pocket to make plays with his feet. He is an accurate short thrower and throws surprisingly well on the move.
WEAKNESSES
Gradkowski is shorter than ideal and lacks the arm strength to make all the throws with accuracy and zip. His lack of arm strength hinders his ability to throw accurately on medium and deep passes -- defensive backs get a good break on the ball and can make plays to break up passes due to his lack of zip. He is more of a system quarterback who will struggle to pass from the pocket consistently in a more traditional NFL offense.
SUMMARY
Gradkowski is the ultimate when it comes to toughness, competitiveness and leadership for a quarterback which is what gives him a chance to have a career as a backup in the NFL. He is shorter than ideal and, because the ball does not burst out of his hand, defensive linemen can get their hands up quick enough to bat down passes at the line of scrimmage when he passes from the pocket. His athleticism helps him to move well in the pocket and to get out of the pocket, and he is an accurate short passer, but the trouble is that he struggles to throw accurately on medium/deep throws when he has to put zip on passes. He probably will not be able to start in the NFL, but with his athleticism, competitiveness and mental intangibles he should become a good backup/third quarterback.
STRONG POINTS
Gradkowski is a tough and highly competitive quarterback who consistently has shown a willingness to take the big hit to make the play -- whether it is standing in the pocket or scrambling with the ball. He is a smart and instinctive quarterback who consistently stays poised and does not panic under pressure. He is a very good athlete who has consistently shown the ability to get out of the pocket to make plays with his feet. He is an accurate short thrower and throws surprisingly well on the move.
WEAKNESSES
Gradkowski is shorter than ideal and lacks the arm strength to make all the throws with accuracy and zip. His lack of arm strength hinders his ability to throw accurately on medium and deep passes -- defensive backs get a good break on the ball and can make plays to break up passes due to his lack of zip. He is more of a system quarterback who will struggle to pass from the pocket consistently in a more traditional NFL offense.
Gradkowski's Prospect Profile from NFL.com Not exactly glowing praises...
SUMMARY
Gradkowski is the ultimate when it comes to toughness, competitiveness and leadership for a quarterback which is what gives him a chance to have a career as a backup in the NFL. He is shorter than ideal and, because the ball does not burst out of his hand, defensive linemen can get their hands up quick enough to bat down passes at the line of scrimmage when he passes from the pocket. His athleticism helps him to move well in the pocket and to get out of the pocket, and he is an accurate short passer, but the trouble is that he struggles to throw accurately on medium/deep throws when he has to put zip on passes. He probably will not be able to start in the NFL, but with his athleticism, competitiveness and mental intangibles he should become a good backup/third quarterback.
STRONG POINTS
Gradkowski is a tough and highly competitive quarterback who consistently has shown a willingness to take the big hit to make the play -- whether it is standing in the pocket or scrambling with the ball. He is a smart and instinctive quarterback who consistently stays poised and does not panic under pressure. He is a very good athlete who has consistently shown the ability to get out of the pocket to make plays with his feet. He is an accurate short thrower and throws surprisingly well on the move.
WEAKNESSES
Gradkowski is shorter than ideal and lacks the arm strength to make all the throws with accuracy and zip. His lack of arm strength hinders his ability to throw accurately on medium and deep passes -- defensive backs get a good break on the ball and can make plays to break up passes due to his lack of zip. He is more of a system quarterback who will struggle to pass from the pocket consistently in a more traditional NFL offense.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
I'll go on the record as saying that Simms' injury will turn out to be a blessing in disguise for TB.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Gradkowski will need time, like all rookie QBs, but I really believe the Bucs got what likely could be the steal of the '06 draft. I certainly don't expect good numbers from him this year, though. That said, I do expect come season's end, he'll be considered the Bucs' QB of the future.
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