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***Buffalo at Tampa Bay*** (-3) O/U 53 (1 Viewer)

Great Game Buffalo, so close and you seem a lot better than 7-6 would indicate, schedule will get softer down the stretch outside of the Patriots. 

 
Pip's Invitation said:
It was identical to the PI that lost the Cowboys a game recently. Correct call in both cases. 
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Look, you can’t call that and not call the 3 times that Diggs was interfered with that were all worse than that. When Diggs has a step and a half behind the deepest defender and the defender has a handful of Diggs’s jersey in his hand stretching 2 feet behind his body and it’s not called, you can’t call that. When the DB’s hand is grabbing Diggs’s shoulder pad and turning him in the end zone and you don’t call it, you can’t call that.

And yeah, Bills fans are bitter because playing Brady the last 20 years his teams have gotten those calls over and over and over and over again. 

 
GroveDiesel said:
Look, you can’t call that and not call the 3 times that Diggs was interfered with that were all worse than that. When Diggs has a step and a half behind the deepest defender and the defender has a handful of Diggs’s jersey in his hand stretching 2 feet behind his body and it’s not called, you can’t call that. When the DB’s hand is grabbing Diggs’s shoulder pad and turning him in the end zone and you don’t call it, you can’t call that.

And yeah, Bills fans are bitter because playing Brady the last 20 years his teams have gotten those calls over and over and over and over again. 
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Not DPI

Not called DPI

Not DPI

Not DPI

 
GroveDiesel said:
The “defense” on Diggs in the end zone at the end of the game versus what they called Wallace for: Link

Note that Wallace didn’t even contact Evans, Evans wrapped his arm around Wallace’s back and pulls him.
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Perhaps it helps for the receiver to, you know, try to catch the ball. Diggs going with the Desean Jackson style receivering of immediately throwing hands up for a flag.

 
GroveDiesel said:
The “defense” on Diggs in the end zone at the end of the game versus what they called Wallace for: Link

Note that Wallace didn’t even contact Evans, Evans wrapped his arm around Wallace’s back and pulls him.
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Both were defensive PI from my perspective. 

Miami was also robbed of a win in overtime in the LV game on a pass from Brissett to Fuller. 

Are you in favor of a limited coaches challenge on PI calls?

 
It is good to be reminded why I pulled back from getting too emotionally invested in this sport. 
Every week many games are decided by what refs choose to call and what they don’t.  It is an enjoyable illusion to fool myself otherwise. 

 
Get dominated until the other team backs off and then complain about the refs. 

Run the ball. Get physical. Impose your will. You’ll win more games. 

 
The Duff Man said:
It is good to be reminded why I pulled back from getting too emotionally invested in this sport. 
Every week many games are decided by what refs choose to call and what they don’t.  It is an enjoyable illusion to fool myself otherwise. 
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You could also say it got decided when a guy cut by the worst team in the league beat a Bills player like a drum for a 65-yard winner in overtime. 

 
Capella said:
You could also say it got decided when a guy cut by the worst team in the league beat a Bills player like a drum for a 65-yard winner in overtime. 
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You could also say that the officials intervened to force overtime, and then proceeded to help Tampa out a little more with a very friendly spot and a silly PI called on the wrong player (should have been OPI).  

Tampa is a very good team.  It's hard to beat any team multiple times in the same game.  After being given a second chance (or third, or fourth, depending on how you tally this thing) chance, Buffalo finally broke.  Congratulations on your win.  We stole one against the Rams last year and I didn't apologize for it.

 
There were multiple contested balls with contact to Bucs' receivers as well that weren't called.  The officials aren't the reason the Bills lost that game.   

 
Capella said:
You could also say it got decided when a guy cut by the worst team in the league beat a Bills player like a drum for a 65-yard winner in overtime. 
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I guess it depends on ones approach to defining “decided”

One approach is a basic eye test…what was the actual play that won the game. 

Another approach is a more intellectual understanding of probability, game theory and the contributing factors that led up to the play that won the game.  

 
The Duff Man said:
I guess it depends on ones approach to defining “decided”

One approach is a basic eye test…what was the actual play that won the game. 

Another approach is a more intellectual understanding of probability, game theory and the contributing factors that led up to the play that won the game.  
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No, the other approach is constantly whining about the refs every game because your team isn’t good enough and Bills fans need someone else to blame instead of coming to the stark realization that another lost season is on the players and coaches, not refs. 

 
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Capella said:
No, the other approach is constantly whining about the refs every game because your team isn’t good enough and Bills fans need someone else to blame instead of coming to the stark realization that another lost season is on the players and coaches, not refs. 
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So it is only Bills fans that think the refs impact the game. Good to know 👍🏻

 
Capella said:
No, the other approach is constantly whining about the refs every game because your team isn’t good enough 
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The Bills were good enough to get first and goal at the 1 in the waning seconds of the game, assuming normal run-of-the-mill officiating.  I agree that the Bills probably aren't good enough to overcome that type of officiating error against a SB-caliber opponent.  Nobody is.

 
Took my 4-yr-old to his 1st Bucs game...sat in front row behind the Bucs bench on the 40...he got a lot of up close viewing of his favorite player Brady throwing, studying, strategizing, leading...what an experience.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
The Bills were good enough to get first and goal at the 1 in the waning seconds of the game, assuming normal run-of-the-mill officiating.  I agree that the Bills probably aren't good enough to overcome that type of officiating error against a SB-caliber opponent.  Nobody is.
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I mean, they had a 130 other plays in the game to get it right, but yes, bad calls only happened against Buffalo. 

 
gump said:
Took my 4-yr-old to his 1st Bucs game...sat in front row behind the Bucs bench on the 40...he got a lot of up close viewing of his favorite player Brady throwing, studying, strategizing, leading...what an experience.
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Awesome. Taking my 4 year old to his first at the Carolina game after Christmas. Going to have to pay for up close parking because we usually park behind the yankee stadium and that’s too far for him to hoof it. 

 
gump said:
Took my 4-yr-old to his 1st Bucs game...sat in front row behind the Bucs bench on the 40...he got a lot of up close viewing of his favorite player Brady throwing, studying, strategizing, leading...what an experience.
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Capella said:
Awesome. Taking my 4 year old to his first at the Carolina game after Christmas. Going to have to pay for up close parking because we usually park behind the yankee stadium and that’s too far for him to hoof it. 
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:thumbup:

I was a kid when I sat in the Orange Bowl in '83 to see Marino with my dad 

End zone seats were like $13, I can imagine what these must have cost you guys, so worth it though. 

 
Ministry of Pain said:
:thumbup:

I was a kid when I sat in the Orange Bowl in '83 to see Marino with my dad 

End zone seats were like $13, I can imagine what these must have cost you guys, so worth it though. 
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I was very lucky to get them free…everyone around us scalped so guessing the holders wanted to pay for a chunk of the season so they were steep. But like you, I believe a priceless memory for us.

 
gump said:
I was very lucky to get them free…everyone around us scalped so guessing the holders wanted to pay for a chunk of the season so they were steep. But like you, I believe a priceless memory for us.
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Yea if I scalped it woulda paid for a quarter of our season tickets. But what’s the point of having them if you don’t go. I make money at work. 

 
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