AwesomeAuger
Footballguy
I have two guys queued up for the Saints. I'd be happy with both but there is one guy that I really, really want. 8ebok, you're killing me.
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Nate Blough
Footballguy
At my spot with the Bills, I am really happy getting Peterson, Hardy, and Wagner for the start of my defense.
We have eerily similar teams. Picking only 2 spots apart we each went CB-DE-LB in the first 3 rounds. Hardy was one of my top choices if I didn't get Wilkerson in round 2 and Wagner was also one of my considerations if I didn't get Alonso in the 3rd. I also had Haden slightly ahead of Peterson in my rankings. I'm sure you feel the opposite on all of the choices(atleast on Peterson v Haden of course), but very similar teams so it should be interesting seeing how we go the rest of the way.
AwesomeAuger
Footballguy
Everybody should be terrified of the offensive juggernaut I am going to create with the Saints. Vernon Davis and Jimmy Graham are, in my opinion, much more terrifying than Gronk and Hernandez were. Vernon and Graham are both exceptional receivers with at least 4.5 speed. Vernon Davis is a punishing in-line blocker and, while Graham isn't a great in-line blocker, he's adequate (and not a liability like Hernandez was). Graham and Vernon can both be used as complete receivers who can run the entire route tree and as in-line tight ends.
Barring any major unforeseen events, the Saints will be using 12 personnel as our base personnel grouping. It seems unlikely any team's base personnel will be able to handle our 12 personnel grouping as Brady is phenomenal in the spread offense. There are very few linebackers who can cover Graham and Vernon. Against subpackages, the Saints offense should have the advantage running the ball as both of my tight ends are capable run blockers.
Barring any major unforeseen events, the Saints will be using 12 personnel as our base personnel grouping. It seems unlikely any team's base personnel will be able to handle our 12 personnel grouping as Brady is phenomenal in the spread offense. There are very few linebackers who can cover Graham and Vernon. Against subpackages, the Saints offense should have the advantage running the ball as both of my tight ends are capable run blockers.
Pimpin Joe
Footballguy
Indy
RE - Robert Quinn
DT - Star Lotulelei
CB - Brandon Flowers
Never really had a plan to go big on D, but these guys where all high on my board and landed perfectly for me. Other than not reaching for a QB, I have no strategy at this point, do I continue to try and build an elite defensive unit, or is there someone too good to pass up on offense? Can't wait to see who's available in the 4th round.
RE - Robert Quinn
DT - Star Lotulelei
CB - Brandon Flowers
Never really had a plan to go big on D, but these guys where all high on my board and landed perfectly for me. Other than not reaching for a QB, I have no strategy at this point, do I continue to try and build an elite defensive unit, or is there someone too good to pass up on offense? Can't wait to see who's available in the 4th round.
AwesomeAuger
Footballguy
I think with so many teams going defense early, the teams built with offense in mind will have the advantage. There is only so much top-end defensive talent in the player pool and with so many teams going defense early, it really reduces that pool quickly. While some good defenses may be built, I highly doubt any dominant defenses will be able to be assembled. Even if any are assembled, the offenses on those teams will be so poor, the team won't even have a chance. Just my 
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Instinctive
Footballguy
I guess I just think scheme matters more on offense. I can call great plays to mask weaknesses. My defense though…I want them dictating the game.
That mindset easily goes both waysAwesomeAuger said:I think with so many teams going defense early, the teams built with offense in mind will have the advantage. There is only so much top-end defensive talent in the player pool and with so many teams going defense early, it really reduces that pool quickly. While some good defenses may be built, I highly doubt any dominant defenses will be able to be assembled. Even if any are assembled, the offenses on those teams will be so poor, the team won't even have a chance. Just my
Soulfly3
Footballguy
The Broncos can attest to this untruthAwesomeAuger said:I think with so many teams going defense early, the teams built with offense in mind will have the advantage. There is only so much top-end defensive talent in the player pool and with so many teams going defense early, it really reduces that pool quickly. While some good defenses may be built, I highly doubt any dominant defenses will be able to be assembled. Even if any are assembled, the offenses on those teams will be so poor, the team won't even have a chance. Just my
hahaAwesomeAuger
Footballguy
The Seahawks had a truly dominant defense, a mobile franchise quarterback, a top tier running back, and some receiving weapons. They were simply the better team. The Broncos had the best offense in the league but that was largely in part due to Peyton being so good. Does Moreno, Welker, and Decker really scare defenses that much?The Broncos can attest to this untruthAwesomeAuger said:I think with so many teams going defense early, the teams built with offense in mind will have the advantage. There is only so much top-end defensive talent in the player pool and with so many teams going defense early, it really reduces that pool quickly. While some good defenses may be built, I highly doubt any dominant defenses will be able to be assembled. Even if any are assembled, the offenses on those teams will be so poor, the team won't even have a chance. Just my
We'll see how the draft plays out but I'm pretty confident there will be a lot of teams with good but not great defenses with below average offenses.
There is no argument the Seattle Seahawks D was amazing and shutdown the Broncos and it doesn't help the Denver team just didn't show up.The Seahawks had a truly dominant defense, a mobile franchise quarterback, a top tier running back, and some receiving weapons. They were simply the better team. The Broncos had the best offense in the league but that was largely in part due to Peyton being so good. Does Moreno, Welker, and Decker really scare defenses that much?The Broncos can attest to this untruthAwesomeAuger said:I think with so many teams going defense early, the teams built with offense in mind will have the advantage. There is only so much top-end defensive talent in the player pool and with so many teams going defense early, it really reduces that pool quickly. While some good defenses may be built, I highly doubt any dominant defenses will be able to be assembled. Even if any are assembled, the offenses on those teams will be so poor, the team won't even have a chance. Just my
We'll see how the draft plays out but I'm pretty confident there will be a lot of teams with good but not great defenses with below average offenses.
HOWEVER, I do believe Seattle had a solution for Peyton and that Peyton is not a mobile QB. They were able to contain him and put a clamp on the Denver offense. However, as you can see any mobile QB could have had some better results vs the Seahawks (see Kaepernick). In any case, if you are using Seattle as a base model for a shut down defense, they themselves had flaws and any decent mobile QB can take advantage of a system like that.
As anyone can tell from my team, I obviously agree with you. Maybe it's just because of where I'm picking, but every time I'm up I just had a hard time picking a defensive player who's more or less very good versus the players on offense who were still in the elite tier.AwesomeAuger said:I think with so many teams going defense early, the teams built with offense in mind will have the advantage. There is only so much top-end defensive talent in the player pool and with so many teams going defense early, it really reduces that pool quickly. While some good defenses may be built, I highly doubt any dominant defenses will be able to be assembled. Even if any are assembled, the offenses on those teams will be so poor, the team won't even have a chance. Just my
deadlyrange0321
Footballguy
3.29 Jason Peters LT
Peters played at a very high level last season for the Eagles. He's returned to an, dare I say, elite level. Should be a key component to protecting Russell Wilson and an anchor for our offensive line.
With 3 picks in the books, Russell Wilson, Justin Houston, and Jason Peters feels like a nice start. Going forward, we will be looking towards continuing to bolster our pass rush while finding some weapons for Wilson.
Peters played at a very high level last season for the Eagles. He's returned to an, dare I say, elite level. Should be a key component to protecting Russell Wilson and an anchor for our offensive line.
With 3 picks in the books, Russell Wilson, Justin Houston, and Jason Peters feels like a nice start. Going forward, we will be looking towards continuing to bolster our pass rush while finding some weapons for Wilson.
AwesomeAuger
Footballguy
So much value on the offensive side of the ball, I had trouble picking a single player. Last year I got lucky with Bahktiari at left tackle but immediately after the draft I was regretting not spending a premium pick on a left tackle for Rodgers. This year, I am not letting that happen again. Everything that I have read has indicated Clady should be ready for camp. If he is, then I am getting a bargain.
deadlyrange0321
Footballguy
Agreed here. I had Peters and Clady at 1st and 2nd on my pre-draft list. Couldn't really go wrong either way.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Obviously i agree with you, having used high picks on smith and brown. Clady is close to their talent, though i think smith is still improving. A few top LTs left.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Peters is great, i just hesitate with older guys. He was my best pick in our original franchise draft, back when he was just converting from TE.
Nate Blough
Footballguy
Fyi I fot a message about 2 mins after he picked that the Jets had Keenan Allen qued up but clicked Ladarius Webb accidentally. I went ahead and switched it since Allen was not selected.
AwesomeAuger
Footballguy
Maybe it's just me, but the picks for the Chiefs aren't showing up.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
AwesomeAuger
Footballguy
Oh nevermind, you are talking about 3.26.
I got an email update indicating I was on the clock for 4.2. What's up with that?
I got an email update indicating I was on the clock for 4.2. What's up with that?
EttorefromRome
Footballguy
Kansas City is doing a hell of a job, Marshall and Williams are total steals at this point, I considered them both at 3x2. Lavonte David is maybe the best linebacker outside of the duo in San Francisco. The only pick I disagree with is Luck over Rodgers
AwesomeAuger
Footballguy
Marshall was a bargain. It was between him and Clady at 3.31.
deadlyrange0321
Footballguy
4.04 Fletcher Cox DE
Cox really started to play at a high level last year in Philly's 3-4. Given that we are also implementing a 3-4, he is a perfect fit. He's young and improving at a rapid pace. Along with Justin Houston, Cox should be an anchor of our defense for years to come.
Cox really started to play at a high level last year in Philly's 3-4. Given that we are also implementing a 3-4, he is a perfect fit. He's young and improving at a rapid pace. Along with Justin Houston, Cox should be an anchor of our defense for years to come.
FUBAR
Footballguy
I had Johnson selected, then decided to give Foles a reliable target. I might regret going with Brown over Johnson or Marshall. It's entirely possible that I over emphasized youth, 30 isn't too old for a WR. Brown is an outstanding receiver, though Marshall is arguably the 2nd best all around WR in the NFL today.
Thought Honey Badger would fall to me this round.
AwesomeAuger
Footballguy
I would not have taken Brown over Fitz and Marshall, especially Fitz. Fitzgerald may be 31 at the beginning of the season but he is the ultimate technician in the NFL at receiver and a great team leader. His physical abilities may erode slowly over time but he will always have his technique and size. Fitz stays in great shape throughout the year and I think he's the type of player who can play into his upper 30s. I was really hoping he would fall to me in the third and I would have taken him over Clady.
AwesomeAuger
Footballguy
Also my reasoning behind taking Cordy Glenn is that I simply think he was the best available tackle remaining. Once Marshall was taken, I knew I wanted to get a second tackle to help protect Rodgers. Taking an offensive tackle isn't the sexiest movie but protecting Rodgers is high on my priority list.
Nucker101
Footballguy
AwesomeAuger
Footballguy
... And I thought I could wait to get Nelson during the 5/6 turn for the Redskins...
deadlyrange0321
Footballguy
Now the picks should start to get interesting. Seems like the first three rounds didn't really produce any questionable picks. As move further along, it'll be interesting to see the rosters come together.
FUBAR
Footballguy
I guess it's good to see we seem to be thinking the same way. Took Mayo but debated for a while between him and Ward. Just feel Mayo makes for a better anchor as one of the best all around OLBs in the league when he's healthy. If not for missing 10 games this year, I'm fairly sure he would have gone much higher.
Harvin was my 3rd choice here, very tempting to give Foles another OW, but I rated Mayo a little higher and needed to get some D.
Harvin was my 3rd choice here, very tempting to give Foles another OW, but I rated Mayo a little higher and needed to get some D.
I think he went about where he should have as the 7th safety drafted. His post-season performance elevated him in my mind but his regular season numbers are fairly average for a safety, especially playing next to Thomas. I had him ahead of the honey badger but think he's a stud as well. Safety thins out pretty quickly, so I was happy to grab a young guy to lock down that position for quite some time.
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AwesomeAuger
Footballguy
I'm going to give the Steelers (tennesseeTitans) until 1130 am EST to do his makeup pick before I make my pick for the Saints.
AwesomeAuger
Footballguy
I didn't exactly wait until 1130 but I did give him an hour. I'm pretty happy to get Monroe. He's been a consistently good tackle for multiple years now and is just entering his prime. Based on last year's draft and the comments by some of the current drafters, I expect a run on left tackles to happen in the next couple of rounds. Therefore, I'm making sure I get a good one while I can.
AwesomeAuger
Footballguy
Eli Manning at 4.22, wow. I was waiting for him to be taken. I had a late first round grade on him.
