Bush and McAllister in Rarified Territory? (1 Viewer)

[pghrob]

For league's that score PPR for RB, WR, and TE, the New Orleans Saints RB tandem of Reggie Bush and Deuce McAllister offer what seems to be a rare opportunity. Based on what seems very realistic projections, both would appear to merit strong consideration as starters. In PPR leagues Bush has a strong case as an RB1, while Deuce would seem to be a strong RB2 candidate.

Can anyone recall another season where an NFL team had two strong RB's that could both post good (if not great) fantasy numbers at the RB position?

 

[Christo]

For league's that score PPR for RB, WR, and TE, the New Orleans Saints RB tandem of Reggie Bush and Deuce McAllister offer what seems to be a rare opportunity. Based on what seems very realistic projections, both would appear to merit strong consideration as starters. In PPR leagues Bush has a strong case as an RB1, while Deuce would seem to be a strong RB2 candidate.Can anyone recall another season where an NFL team had two strong RB's that could both post good (if not great) fantasy numbers at the RB position?

New Orleans last year.

 

[nightmare]

Last years Jaguars, MJ Drew and F Taylor.

Also last year, the Cowboys ALMOST made it with MB3 and J Jones

 

[Sullie]

Larry Csonka and Mercury Morris, Franco Harris & Rocky Blier, Kevin Mack and Ernest Byner. I'm not sure if Icky Woods and James Brooks each had 1,000 yards but both were pretty good for one year.

 

[Ilov80s]

Anderson and Bell in 05 were pretty good as well.

 

[SSOG]

2006- Maurice Jones-Drew and Fred Taylor (RB#8 and RB#18 last year). Jones/MBIII came close, with MBIII finishing 14th and Julius Jones finishing 27th.

2005- Mike Anderson and Tatum Bell (RB#10 and RB#22). Priest Holmes and Larry Johnson also would have likely finished here if Holmes hadn't gotten hurt (as it stands they finished #2 and Holmes was #32 in just 7 games).

It's not quite as rare as you might think.

 

[pghrob]

Seeing that this has occurred in recent years, is there value in handcuffing them and starting them in the same week?

Top 20-25 RB's obviously post their stats and resulting fantasy points regardless of whose fantasy team they are on. Whether or not they are on the same NFL team and fantasy team, and whether or not that fantasy owner starts them both or not, they will still post those top 20-25 numbers.

So, that being said, are there owners out there who cuffed them and went against a psychology taboo that kept them from starting both at the same time?

I guess the same could be said for fantasy WR's like Ocho Cinco and Housh, Harrison and Wayne, Boldin and Fitz, Holt and Bruce back in the day, Moss and Carter back in the day, etc. I wonder how many people adopt the "I don't want to have all my eggs in one basket" mentality and miss out on some decent scoring.

 

[SSOG]

Seeing that this has occurred in recent years, is there value in handcuffing them and starting them in the same week?

Top 20-25 RB's obviously post their stats and resulting fantasy points regardless of whose fantasy team they are on. Whether or not they are on the same NFL team and fantasy team, and whether or not that fantasy owner starts them both or not, they will still post those top 20-25 numbers.

So, that being said, are there owners out there who cuffed them and went against a psychology taboo that kept them from starting both at the same time?

I guess the same could be said for fantasy WR's like Ocho Cinco and Housh, Harrison and Wayne, Boldin and Fitz, Holt and Bruce back in the day, Moss and Carter back in the day, etc. I wonder how many people adopt the "I don't want to have all my eggs in one basket" mentality and miss out on some decent scoring.

The big problem with RB duos that combine to be an RB1/RB2 is that they generally combine to be a LOW RB1/RB2. For instance, Mike Anderson finished 10th, making him the third-worst RB1. Tatum Bell finished 22nd, making him the 3rd-worst RB2. Bell/Anderson would have been a viable starting combo, but it also would have likely been among the worst starting RB corps in the entire league.If given a choice between starting an RB combo that would finish 10/22 and a pair of unrelated RBs who would score the same number of points, I don't think I'd worry too much about starting the RB Tandem. I would, however, be extremely interested in shoring up my RB corps so I wasn't in a situation where I had to start such a weak combo anymore.

If you take two RBs where they are good value, and they just happen to be teammates, and they just happen to be your best two RBs, then start them. It's not the sort of situation that I'd deliberately seek out, though (because deliberately seeking out generally means overpaying, and there's no advantage to be had here to warrant overspending).

 

[packersfan]

Seeing that this has occurred in recent years, is there value in handcuffing them and starting them in the same week?

In a PPR league I think you could definitely start both Bush and McAllister if you owned them given Bush's receiving production. He's basically a WR who also runs the ball which means that even though he shares time in the backfield, he still gives you standout production as a receiver. It may not be the ideal plan starting both but in a PPR league I think you can definitely consider it. In standard leagues I'd be far less comfortable doing that.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Kevan Barlow and Garrison Hearst?

 

[SSOG]

Kevan Barlow and Garrison Hearst?

Kevan Barlow has only once ranked in the top-24 (in 2003 he finished 17th), and that season Hearst was 29th.

 

[AB in DC]

For league's that score PPR for RB, WR, and TE, the New Orleans Saints RB tandem of Reggie Bush and Deuce McAllister offer what seems to be a rare opportunity. Based on what seems very realistic projections, both would appear to merit strong consideration as starters.

BTW -- this is one of the reasons I'm avoiding both Saint RBs. The fact that it is so rare tells me that it's very unlikely to happen.

 

[Getinthemix]

Seeing that this has occurred in recent years, is there value in handcuffing them and starting them in the same week?

Top 20-25 RB's obviously post their stats and resulting fantasy points regardless of whose fantasy team they are on. Whether or not they are on the same NFL team and fantasy team, and whether or not that fantasy owner starts them both or not, they will still post those top 20-25 numbers.

So, that being said, are there owners out there who cuffed them and went against a psychology taboo that kept them from starting both at the same time?

I guess the same could be said for fantasy WR's like Ocho Cinco and Housh, Harrison and Wayne, Boldin and Fitz, Holt and Bruce back in the day, Moss and Carter back in the day, etc. I wonder how many people adopt the "I don't want to have all my eggs in one basket" mentality and miss out on some decent scoring.

The big problem with RB duos that combine to be an RB1/RB2 is that they generally combine to be a LOW RB1/RB2. For instance, Mike Anderson finished 10th, making him the third-worst RB1. Tatum Bell finished 22nd, making him the 3rd-worst RB2. Bell/Anderson would have been a viable starting combo, but it also would have likely been among the worst starting RB corps in the entire league.If given a choice between starting an RB combo that would finish 10/22 and a pair of unrelated RBs who would score the same number of points, I don't think I'd worry too much about starting the RB Tandem. I would, however, be extremely interested in shoring up my RB corps so I wasn't in a situation where I had to start such a weak combo anymore.

If you take two RBs where they are good value, and they just happen to be teammates, and they just happen to be your best two RBs, then start them. It's not the sort of situation that I'd deliberately seek out, though (because deliberately seeking out generally means overpaying, and there's no advantage to be had here to warrant overspending).

If you took them in the 5/6 and took 3 top shelf WR's and a McNabb, why would this be bad. You would be outscoring people at most other positions.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

For league's that score PPR for RB, WR, and TE, the New Orleans Saints RB tandem of Reggie Bush and Deuce McAllister offer what seems to be a rare opportunity. Based on what seems very realistic projections, both would appear to merit strong consideration as starters.

BTW -- this is one of the reasons I'm avoiding both Saint RBs. The fact that it is so rare tells me that it's very unlikely to happen.

last year, there were other tandems that were startablerew/FTaylorMaroney/DillonMB3/JJonesThere were others that offer one solid starter and one spot starter like Addai/Rhodes, Portis/Betts (until Portis injury), TJones/Benson, even LT/Turner.