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Buy low Sell high week 2 (1 Viewer)

BobbyLayne said:
I see some didn't stay up to watch the 2nd game. Can't blame you, that announcing crew was brutal.

But Carlos Hyde is legit.
If you'd have watched it, you would have seen an angry, quick, elusive Carlos Hyde.

I think it's nuts to sell him.

 
pantherclub said:
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nobody in their right mind is going to throw in the towel on a player after one week and selll them cheap. Such a silly thread.

if it's so silly, why are you in here. Please, move on and have a nice day
 
pantherclub said:
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nobody in their right mind is going to throw in the towel on a player after one week and selll them cheap. Such a silly thread.
I don't think you'll get a stud from anyone (ie Calvin, etc) but you can target WR2-3 and RB2-3 from guys who may have an injury problem.

 
Banger said:
JNox3 said:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
I think buy high on Eifert & JJones.

Calvin seems like a buy low but do his owners ever really believe that?

Actually for those who stashed Gordon last year, trading for Dez makes more sense.
typo?
I'm sure it's not..."buy high" is a good strategy if you think a guy is on the rise while the other owner thinks they're a flash in the pan and getting max value.
This. One of my favorite things to do is offer up something of small value to the person who gets the top player on my waiver wire list (in leagues that don't use blind bidding). They think they are cashing out with instant value, I feel like I'm getting a guy I covet but was unable to claim.

 
Id take murray in a heartbeat. Guy had 8 carries and still put up 17 pts. That team loves to run (last night not withstanding)

 
BobbyLayne said:
I see some didn't stay up to watch the 2nd game. Can't blame you, that announcing crew was brutal.

But Carlos Hyde is legit.
If you'd have watched it, you would have seen an angry, quick, elusive Carlos Hyde.

I think it's nuts to sell him.
Oh everybody in the nation watched it. That's the point. And they listened to Trent squeal with delight all night. You'd think the 9ers are going to the Superbowl. Guess what? Minnie still sucks and your new world beaters aren't that great. They won't sniff the playoffs and every team is going to just stop Hyde. Especially with Colin as their QB.

This is sell high at its best (again, in redraft).

 
LeSean McCoy dealt for Carlos Hyde in my league today. McCoy owner is a definite guppy, but I don't think he did too bad here.
I'd have easily made that deal, too. Then again, I wasn't stupid enough to draft McCoy in any of my 10 leagues this year, so I wouldn't have had him in the first place.

 
Gurley was dropped in one of my leagues today. I've put in a waiver claim but probably won't get him. So some people are being stupid about him.

 
pantherclub said:
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nobody in their right mind is going to throw in the towel on a player after one week and selll them cheap. Such a silly thread.
Um, Peyton owner here who would like to kindly disagree.

 
Buy low on Gurley. STL offense and defense look solid. Going to be a top 10 RB after week 4.
:wall:

Nobody is selling Gurley cheap after one week in which he didnt even play. What are we doing here people?
Owners in non-keeper leagues that lost week 1 may start getting concerned about waiting for a couple of weeks on Gurley. I think he was substantially undervalued in drafts to begin with as well.

 
Buy low on Gurley. STL offense and defense look solid. Going to be a top 10 RB after week 4.
:wall:

Nobody is selling Gurley cheap after one week in which he didnt even play. What are we doing here people?
Owners in non-keeper leagues that lost week 1 may start getting concerned about waiting for a couple of weeks on Gurley. I think he was substantially undervalued in drafts to begin with as well.
Again, nobody and I mean nobody is selling Gurley low just because they lost week 1. Thats just asinine to even suggest especially considering that you drafted him with the expectations that he was going to sit for a few weeks.

 
If i could buy one guy low, it would be Brandin Cooks. Brees' missed him twice. He was shadowed by Peterson the whole game and still had 4-53. Could have easily been 6-90 TD. I see big things coming.
We're not selling.
I was disappointed at Cooks showing as I expect huge things this season, but he was being blanketed all game, and he was on grass and on the road against a pretty nice D. I still think he is going to be a real nice player this year, but amazed to see how reactionary ppl have been and called him a quasi bust. I still think he will be Brees' security blanket once they feast on the NFC South teams.. although Atl doesnt look like a pushover now...

 
If i could buy one guy low, it would be Brandin Cooks. Brees' missed him twice. He was shadowed by Peterson the whole game and still had 4-53. Could have easily been 6-90 TD. I see big things coming.
We're not selling.
I was disappointed at Cooks showing as I expect huge things this season, but he was being blanketed all game, and he was on grass and on the road against a pretty nice D. I still think he is going to be a real nice player this year, but amazed to see how reactionary ppl have been and called him a quasi bust. I still think he will be Brees' security blanket once they feast on the NFC South teams.. although Atl doesnt look like a pushover now...
I like Cooks, don't get me wrong, but him having a bad game on the road is to be expected. His home and road splits last year where a huge difference. Granted, that's always been the case for the Saints. Hard to get down too much on him for last week's performance, but don't be surprised if he has something similar the next time they go on the road.

 
I would be wary of buying low on Calvin. I said it before the season started and I'll say it agaIn, Golden Tate will have better PPR fantasy numbers than CJ. He had more targets last week. CJ has obviously lost a step and isn't getter any faster or younger.

 
I traded Arian Foster for Ameer Abdullah. Did I buy high? That guy has so much talent. Few RBs can juke the way he can

Besides, one more good game and I know he would have been untouchable. Sometimes you gotta get these great players before people realize they're great. Or then it's too late

 
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Arian Foster >> Ameer Abdullah

Unless you're getting credit for return yards, you'll regret this trade.

(Caveat: I'm talking redraft; this might be a great deal in a dynasty league.)

 
I traded Arian Foster for Ameer Abdullah. Did I buy high? That guy has so much talent. Few RBs can juke the way he can

Besides, one more good game and I know he would have been untouchable. Sometimes you gotta get these great players before people realize they're great. Or then it's too late
OOF

 
Arian Foster >> Ameer Abdullah

Unless you're getting credit for return yards, you'll regret this trade.

(Caveat: I'm talking redraft; this might be a great deal in a dynasty league.)
I actually do get credit for return yards. It's small tho. 25 yards per point. It was worth an extra 4 points last week.

I also admit I didn't want to deal with the headache of owning Arian Foster (who I got very late in my draft). Waiting for his return, and then hoping he doesn't get hurt every week. Who needs the stress!

 
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I bought low on Owen Daniels. I think that Broncos offense gets back on track in the next couple weeks. Picked up Jerrico Cotchery off waivers then was offered Daniels for him. At that price I might have stolen low end TE1 production for the year. If not, then no real harm.

 
If i could buy one guy low, it would be Brandin Cooks. Brees' missed him twice. He was shadowed by Peterson the whole game and still had 4-53. Could have easily been 6-90 TD. I see big things coming.
We're not selling.
I was disappointed at Cooks showing as I expect huge things this season, but he was being blanketed all game, and he was on grass and on the road against a pretty nice D. I still think he is going to be a real nice player this year, but amazed to see how reactionary ppl have been and called him a quasi bust. I still think he will be Brees' security blanket once they feast on the NFC South teams.. although Atl doesnt look like a pushover now...
I like Cooks, don't get me wrong, but him having a bad game on the road is to be expected. His home and road splits last year where a huge difference. Granted, that's always been the case for the Saints. Hard to get down too much on him for last week's performance, but don't be surprised if he has something similar the next time they go on the road.
I expect his home - road splits to even out compared to last year. He's not going to have a Patrick Peterson shadowing him in every road game. And that defense does not look good, so Brees will be chucking it a lot.

 
Might check your ODB owner to see how he is feeling... Just got sold for yeldon,sanders and a rookie 1st in my dynasty league.

 
I traded Arian Foster for Ameer Abdullah. Did I buy high? That guy has so much talent. Few RBs can juke the way he can

Besides, one more good game and I know he would have been untouchable. Sometimes you gotta get these great players before people realize they're great. Or then it's too late
OOF
I don't get why this is a bad deal. Foster isn't coming back really soon so get value today for the early games. Even if Foster comes back week 6 I have a feeling most people wouldn't immediately put him in their lineup (unless desperate) so you're missing out on 6 games and you still have Houston's late bye to deal with.

Yes, Foster will likely score more once healthy but I'm not even certain that's a given. I think a lot of you are banking on Bell eventually taking away carries from Abdullah and there certainly wasn't too much in that game to suggest that's about to happen.

 
I bought low on Hilton.

It's a PPR superflex league with some unusual starting requirements. I can start as many as 5wrs and don't have to start an rb or te

I give Abdullah, Gore and Fitz

I get Hilton, Morris and Vjax

My starting 5 wrs would be Antonio Brown, Aj Green, Deandre Hopkins, Hilton, and Amari or Vjax.

I still have Martin, Sproles and Gurley to go along with Morris at rb.

 
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BobbyLayne said:
I see some didn't stay up to watch the 2nd game. Can't blame you, that announcing crew was brutal.

But Carlos Hyde is legit.
If you'd have watched it, you would have seen an angry, quick, elusive Carlos Hyde.

I think it's nuts to sell him.
First, I agree Hyde looked great.

But let's put it in perspective. The Vikings D looked like crap. Hyde does have 6 division games where SEA, STL and AZ are very good, if not great against the run. Wait unitl SF plays a real offense and they get behind, to the point where Hyde isn't going to get monster touches. Vikings didn't show up for that game Monday.

I would sell Hyde if I could use Hyde + good player and get an elite player.

Otherwise I would hold him and enjoy solid RB2 production at a discounted price. But I would suspect that Hyde's value will never be higher than it is right now.

 
pantherclub said:
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nobody in their right mind is going to throw in the towel on a player after one week and selll them cheap. Such a silly thread.
Um, Peyton owner here who would like to kindly disagree.
for ####s and giggles, how cheap would you sell Peyton right now?
Not even sure he's a QB1 anymore. I would cut bait personally. Same with Dez and DThomas. Those are the guys I would cut bait and sell on name if I could.

Specifically,

I would trade DThomas for basically any other first 2 rounds player.

I would deal Manning/Dez for anthing I could use as a RB2/WR2 in most leagues.

 
I traded Arian Foster for Ameer Abdullah. Did I buy high? That guy has so much talent. Few RBs can juke the way he can

Besides, one more good game and I know he would have been untouchable. Sometimes you gotta get these great players before people realize they're great. Or then it's too late
OOF
I don't get why this is a bad deal. Foster isn't coming back really soon so get value today for the early games. Even if Foster comes back week 6 I have a feeling most people wouldn't immediately put him in their lineup (unless desperate) so you're missing out on 6 games and you still have Houston's late bye to deal with.

Yes, Foster will likely score more once healthy but I'm not even certain that's a given. I think a lot of you are banking on Bell eventually taking away carries from Abdullah and there certainly wasn't too much in that game to suggest that's about to happen.
I think's a fair trade, and a fascinating one. If you're getting Foster, you're gambling that he comes back soon, gets the full load, and can stay healthy. Big if. If you're getting Abdullah, you're gambling that his role will continue to increase in DET. Also big if. It's not like Joique Bell is a terrible RB.

I do prefer the Foster side. More upside. Most drafted Abdullah as their RB3, so they aren't going to need to rely on Foster.

 
I bought low on Hilton.

It's a PPR superflex league with some unusual starting requirements. I can start as many as 5wrs and don't have to start an rb or te

I give Abdullah, Gore and Fitz

I get Hilton, Morris and Vjax

My starting 5 wrs would be Antonio Brown, Aj Green, Deandre Hopkins, Hilton, and Amari or Vjax.

I still have Martin, Sproles and Gurley to go along with Morris at rb.
That's just stupid. Not for you, but your trading partner. Makes no sense at all. Especially in a league where RB isn't even a requirement

 
Might check your ODB owner to see how he is feeling... Just got sold for yeldon,sanders and a rookie 1st in my dynasty league.
Wow.

Yeldon is decent, but IMO not an elite RB prospect. Sanders will be decent for another year or two.............all that for a young elite talented WR in Beckham?

Hopefully that rookie first is a high 1st.

 
pantherclub said:
::::SIGH::::

nobody in their right mind is going to throw in the towel on a player after one week and selll them cheap. Such a silly thread.
Um, Peyton owner here who would like to kindly disagree.
for ####s and giggles, how cheap would you sell Peyton right now?
Not even sure he's a QB1 anymore. I would cut bait personally.Same with Dez and DThomas. Those are the guys I would cut bait and sell on name if I could.

Specifically,

I would trade DThomas for basically any other first 2 rounds player.

I would deal Manning/Dez for anthing I could use as a RB2/WR2 in most leagues.
I agree that Manning is not a QB1, or at best he's a borderline QB1.

I would put him on the block and see what you can get, but you may have to wait untl he has a good game before you can credibly deal him.

And it won't likely happen this week in Arrowhead.

 
Might check your ODB owner to see how he is feeling... Just got sold for yeldon,sanders and a rookie 1st in my dynasty league.
I wouldn't necessarily call that a buy low but maybe that owner was more inclined to pull the trigger after a normal human start to obj's season. Seems like the right price to pay for a stud wr. I am glad to see owners coming back down to earth and realizing no one player is worth a king's ransom and then some.

 
I bought low on Hilton.

It's a PPR superflex league with some unusual starting requirements. I can start as many as 5wrs and don't have to start an rb or te

I give Abdullah, Gore and Fitz

I get Hilton, Morris and Vjax

My starting 5 wrs would be Antonio Brown, Aj Green, Deandre Hopkins, Hilton, and Amari or Vjax.

I still have Martin, Sproles and Gurley to go along with Morris at rb.
That's just stupid. Not for you, but your trading partner. Makes no sense at all. Especially in a league where RB isn't even a requirement
I was a little surprised too but he really seems to like Abdullah and Gore. I was happy to help him.

 
Jack White said:
If i could buy one guy low, it would be Brandin Cooks. Brees' missed him twice. He was shadowed by Peterson the whole game and still had 4-53. Could have easily been 6-90 TD. I see big things coming.
We're not selling.
So far in Cooks early NFL career, he's been great at home, and mediocre to bad on the road. Very weird the discrepancy

 
dschuler said:
I would be wary of buying low on Calvin. I said it before the season started and I'll say it agaIn, Golden Tate will have better PPR fantasy numbers than CJ. He had more targets last week. CJ has obviously lost a step and isn't getter any faster or younger.
Neither is anyone else in the league, this is just a stupid statement.

 
biju said:
shadyridr said:
Wonderllama said:
I traded Arian Foster for Ameer Abdullah. Did I buy high? That guy has so much talent. Few RBs can juke the way he can

Besides, one more good game and I know he would have been untouchable. Sometimes you gotta get these great players before people realize they're great. Or then it's too late
OOF
I don't get why this is a bad deal. Foster isn't coming back really soon so get value today for the early games. Even if Foster comes back week 6 I have a feeling most people wouldn't immediately put him in their lineup (unless desperate) so you're missing out on 6 games and you still have Houston's late bye to deal with.

Yes, Foster will likely score more once healthy but I'm not even certain that's a given. I think a lot of you are banking on Bell eventually taking away carries from Abdullah and there certainly wasn't too much in that game to suggest that's about to happen.
Foster should be back next week dude

 
biju said:
shadyridr said:
Wonderllama said:
I traded Arian Foster for Ameer Abdullah. Did I buy high? That guy has so much talent. Few RBs can juke the way he can

Besides, one more good game and I know he would have been untouchable. Sometimes you gotta get these great players before people realize they're great. Or then it's too late
OOF
I don't get why this is a bad deal. Foster isn't coming back really soon so get value today for the early games. Even if Foster comes back week 6 I have a feeling most people wouldn't immediately put him in their lineup (unless desperate) so you're missing out on 6 games and you still have Houston's late bye to deal with.

Yes, Foster will likely score more once healthy but I'm not even certain that's a given. I think a lot of you are banking on Bell eventually taking away carries from Abdullah and there certainly wasn't too much in that game to suggest that's about to happen.
Foster should be back next week dude
The Houston Chronicle expects Arian Foster (groin) to miss Week 2, and believes he may not return until Week 5.
The report comes from John McClain, who attended Foster's charity event on Monday evening. McClain believes Foster will have to practice for a "couple of weeks" before returning. Coach Bill O'Brien has essentially already ruled out Foster for Week 2. Foster's return timeline has been all over the map, but McClain is a trustworthy source

 
Do any of you really play in leagues where someone is selling guys that were drafted in the first 4 rounds after week one with poor stats? I'd love to buy low on Calvin but I've never been in a league where guys bail this early.
Yeah, ppl don't really bail on their early round picks after 1 week. After 2 weeks of low production they'll start getting nervous and at 3 weeks is when owners start to go in frustration/panic mode.

Selling high on early round picks don't really make sense after 1 week either. If you drafted Hyde, Kelce, ect. it's probably because you liked them and you aren't going to like them any less after they blow up the first week.

Buying low makes sense at earliest in week 3 and selling high makes sense when you didn't invest much to get that player(late round pick that fell to you or a cheap waiver wire add) and even though the player is on your team you don't think that player has the value that the market perceives him to have.

 
::::SIGH::::

nobody in their right mind is going to throw in the towel on a player after one week and selll them cheap. Such a silly thread.
Um, Peyton owner here who would like to kindly disagree.
for ####s and giggles, how cheap would you sell Peyton right now?
Any type of starter straight up. But really depends on your backup. If I had a good backup I'd try to move him on name for a guy I think is solid wr2 that wasn't ranked that way start of year. Like Moncrief. Or a RB2 people don't value like Woodhead or Spiller.

But if you need a qb in return, I'd target a team with good backup like Mariota or Rivers and try a 2-for-2 package and still try to get that wr-rb2 or flex upgrade.

 
I traded Arian Foster for Ameer Abdullah. Did I buy high? That guy has so much talent. Few RBs can juke the way he can

Besides, one more good game and I know he would have been untouchable. Sometimes you gotta get these great players before people realize they're great. Or then it's too late
OOF
I don't get why this is a bad deal. Foster isn't coming back really soon so get value today for the early games. Even if Foster comes back week 6 I have a feeling most people wouldn't immediately put him in their lineup (unless desperate) so you're missing out on 6 games and you still have Houston's late bye to deal with.

Yes, Foster will likely score more once healthy but I'm not even certain that's a given. I think a lot of you are banking on Bell eventually taking away carries from Abdullah and there certainly wasn't too much in that game to suggest that's about to happen.
Foster should be back next week dude
Not that bad of a deal. If healthy, Foster outscores him, but with Foster that's a huge if. I'd say Abdullah is much more likely to be playing during your playoffs than Foster. Also, it is worth noting that Detroit only had 47 offensive snaps, so Abdullah's light workload week 1 should actually increase when Detroit gets back to their norm (last year they averaged 65.4 offensive plays per game).

 

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