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Buy Low/Sell High (1 Viewer)

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I'll just start this off with a couple who come to mind:

Cole Hamels is definitely a buy right now. I am trying to pry him away from his owner as I type this.

Johnny Damon is a good sell high. He is almost always underrated but I think right now he might be a bit overrated. He won't keep up his HR pace so if you can find an owner who thinks he's in the midst of a career year since it is a contract year, he might be a very valuable trade chip.

 
Some guys I'd be buying:

-Adrian Beltre: I think he's about to start heating up and he's already getting some valuable SBs from the 3B spot.

-James Loney: I don't think the power will ever be great, but the AVG should come way up.

-Eric Byrnes: I have a feeling he'll be pretty valuable at some point during the season.

-Jhonny Peralta: Might even be found on some waiver wires right now.

-Stephen Drew: I thought he was overrated going into the season, but he's not this bad.

 
Carlos Lee buy low
Its not often I just accept a trade offered to me right off the bat. I got Carlos Lee and I gave up Broxton and Burrell. I could care less about a closer, and I'm almost glad to have gotten rid of Burrell.
 
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Some guys I'd be buying:

-Adrian Beltre: I think he's about to start heating up and he's already getting some valuable SBs from the 3B spot.

-James Loney: I don't think the power will ever be great, but the AVG should come way up.

-Eric Byrnes: I have a feeling he'll be pretty valuable at some point during the season.

-Jhonny Peralta: Might even be found on some waiver wires right now.

-Stephen Drew: I thought he was overrated going into the season, but he's not this bad.
Definitely Peralta.If the Tex owner isn't aware of his usual slow starts he's a good target.

I might play around with the Alexei Ramirez owner a bit, I'm concerned but his ceiling's high enough that if I can get him cheap it's worth it.

Andre Ethier owners may be getting frustrated with him struggling since Manny left, another bad weekend and I'll inquire about him.

I'm going to pitch the Conor Jackson owner in a deep league a low ball offer, need to upgrade my mess at 1B (Overbay/Millar, Guillen's on the DL) and I don't want to wait and hope Reynolds gains 1B eligibility.

Scott Baker's not doing too well again, may try to look into him. Beckett too.

No sell high guys I see on my rosters right now (except for closers who are always sell high guys imho), most over achievers like Inge, Scutaro, and Aaron Hill won't net much from my competition and I think they're legit anyway (at least Hill and Inge).

Glad I've already bought Verlander low! :lmao:

 
Sell high-

Dan Haren - Top 5 SP value right now and I think the writing is on the wall that the Diamondbacks are going to have a horrible season. Its going to be hard for him to stay solid and keep dominating while his team loses 100 games IMO.

Ryan Zimmerman- His hitting streak got him quite a bit of attention (along with his stats obviously) so I think the demand is pretty high for him right now. His value is largely BA driven, so when the correction comes there, his value drops right along with it.

Brad Hawpe- Similar to Zimmerman, his BA is huge right now. He's had streaks like this before and they've never lasted.

Buy Low-

Lance Berkman - Probably the surest bet of all of the slow starters to crank it back up.

Completely agree on Scott Baker. His owner may have seen enough after today.

Brian Fuentes - His stats still look pretty terrible thanks to his first week or two, but he seems to have settled into his role a lot more now. His team is getting its rotation back this week and expect the save-ops to be there for him.

 
Sell high-

Dan Haren - Top 5 SP value right now and I think the writing is on the wall that the Diamondbacks are going to have a horrible season. Its going to be hard for him to stay solid and keep dominating while his team loses 100 games IMO.

Ryan Zimmerman- His hitting streak got him quite a bit of attention (along with his stats obviously) so I think the demand is pretty high for him right now. His value is largely BA driven, so when the correction comes there, his value drops right along with it.

Brad Hawpe- Similar to Zimmerman, his BA is huge right now. He's had streaks like this before and they've never lasted.

Buy Low-

Lance Berkman - Probably the surest bet of all of the slow starters to crank it back up.

Completely agree on Scott Baker. His owner may have seen enough after today.

Brian Fuentes - His stats still look pretty terrible thanks to his first week or two, but he seems to have settled into his role a lot more now. His team is getting its rotation back this week and expect the save-ops to be there for him.
:thumbup: This makes zero sense.
 
Carlos Lee buy low
Its not often I just accept a trade offered to me right off the bat. I got Carlos Lee and I gave up Broxton and Burrell. I could care less about a closer, and I'm almost glad to have gotten rid of Burrell.
That's a pretty amazing deal to pull off.
All I had to do was hit the Accept button. I don't think I could have done it fast enough. Broxton just blew a save (I'm sure he'll be fine), but Burrell is out with a sore neck.
 
Crede for the Twins, in a one year contract, FA end of this year.

last two games walk off grand slam to win the game, and a base hit that scored two runs to beat the Tigers today

The guy is starting to heat up, get him now

 
trogg78 said:
Carlos Lee buy low
Its not often I just accept a trade offered to me right off the bat. I got Carlos Lee and I gave up Broxton and Burrell. I could care less about a closer, and I'm almost glad to have gotten rid of Burrell.
That's a pretty amazing deal to pull off.
All I had to do was hit the Accept button. I don't think I could have done it fast enough. Broxton just blew a save (I'm sure he'll be fine), but Burrell is out with a sore neck.
In '07 I was in a league with some experienced players but also a handful of noobs. I offered the Holliday ownerr a reasonable deal, and he delinced it, and countered with Holliday for Isringhausen. I actually hesitated, because I felt really bad, but pulled the trigger in the end.That same owner proceeded to drop VMart and Michael Young.
 
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Sell high-

Dan Haren - Top 5 SP value right now and I think the writing is on the wall that the Diamondbacks are going to have a horrible season. Its going to be hard for him to stay solid and keep dominating while his team loses 100 games IMO.

Ryan Zimmerman- His hitting streak got him quite a bit of attention (along with his stats obviously) so I think the demand is pretty high for him right now. His value is largely BA driven, so when the correction comes there, his value drops right along with it.

Brad Hawpe- Similar to Zimmerman, his BA is huge right now. He's had streaks like this before and they've never lasted.

Buy Low-

Lance Berkman - Probably the surest bet of all of the slow starters to crank it back up.

Completely agree on Scott Baker. His owner may have seen enough after today.

Brian Fuentes - His stats still look pretty terrible thanks to his first week or two, but he seems to have settled into his role a lot more now. His team is getting its rotation back this week and expect the save-ops to be there for him.
:goodposting: This makes zero sense.
Well, I guess I'll have to guess at which part you don't understand since you didn't tell me. I think he could return a ton right now in a trade, hence the top 5 value part. His team looks pathetic. I think his stats will suffer when his team has completely mailed it in by July.
 
Sell high-

Dan Haren - Top 5 SP value right now and I think the writing is on the wall that the Diamondbacks are going to have a horrible season. Its going to be hard for him to stay solid and keep dominating while his team loses 100 games IMO.

Ryan Zimmerman- His hitting streak got him quite a bit of attention (along with his stats obviously) so I think the demand is pretty high for him right now. His value is largely BA driven, so when the correction comes there, his value drops right along with it.

Brad Hawpe- Similar to Zimmerman, his BA is huge right now. He's had streaks like this before and they've never lasted.

Buy Low-

Lance Berkman - Probably the surest bet of all of the slow starters to crank it back up.

Completely agree on Scott Baker. His owner may have seen enough after today.

Brian Fuentes - His stats still look pretty terrible thanks to his first week or two, but he seems to have settled into his role a lot more now. His team is getting its rotation back this week and expect the save-ops to be there for him.
:wall: This makes zero sense.
Well, I guess I'll have to guess at which part you don't understand since you didn't tell me. I think he could return a ton right now in a trade, hence the top 5 value part. His team looks pathetic. I think his stats will suffer when his team has completely mailed it in by July.
Hes 2-3 right now which means hes top 5 without the wins. So going forward lack of wins wont be a change. Its the fact that you think his ERA, WHIP, and Ks will be affected by playing for a bad team. That doesnt make sense to me.
 
Sell high-

Dan Haren - Top 5 SP value right now and I think the writing is on the wall that the Diamondbacks are going to have a horrible season. Its going to be hard for him to stay solid and keep dominating while his team loses 100 games IMO.

Ryan Zimmerman- His hitting streak got him quite a bit of attention (along with his stats obviously) so I think the demand is pretty high for him right now. His value is largely BA driven, so when the correction comes there, his value drops right along with it.

Brad Hawpe- Similar to Zimmerman, his BA is huge right now. He's had streaks like this before and they've never lasted.

Buy Low-

Lance Berkman - Probably the surest bet of all of the slow starters to crank it back up.

Completely agree on Scott Baker. His owner may have seen enough after today.

Brian Fuentes - His stats still look pretty terrible thanks to his first week or two, but he seems to have settled into his role a lot more now. His team is getting its rotation back this week and expect the save-ops to be there for him.
:wall: This makes zero sense.
Well, I guess I'll have to guess at which part you don't understand since you didn't tell me. I think he could return a ton right now in a trade, hence the top 5 value part. His team looks pathetic. I think his stats will suffer when his team has completely mailed it in by July.
Hes 2-3 right now which means hes top 5 without the wins. So going forward lack of wins wont be a change. Its the fact that you think his ERA, WHIP, and Ks will be affected by playing for a bad team. That doesnt make sense to me.
It seems to be hard for pitchers who have been in the league for a little while to not be affected by everyone quitting around them. For an example of what I'm talking about, check out Felix Hernandez last year. I guess if you think a starting pitcher is only affected by his team being terrible in the wins category, I'm probably not going to convince you otherwise. Thats fine, I'm just putting my opinions out there.
 
I think James Shields is a great buy low. He hasn't been pitching well lately, but when Tampa turns things around he'll be a big reason why. I still think he could be in for 15-17 wins this year.

 
Finless said:
Buy

John Lester

Nelson Cruz

Cliff Lee

Slowey

Alexei

Sell

Rollins

Phillips

Wandy

Cantu

Carlos Pena
I'm curious as to why Wandy is a sell? His supporting stats look good and he's made improvements over each of the 3 years he's played. He may not be able to hold the K rate, but he looks like a hold to me. Selling pretty low on Rollins, why wouldn't you wait till he has a little hot streak and then throw him out there if you don't believe in him. Seems like he has decent name appeal at the minimum.
 
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Finless said:
Buy

John Lester

Nelson Cruz

Cliff Lee

Slowey

Alexei

Sell

Rollins

Phillips

Wandy

Cantu

Carlos Pena
I'm curious as to why Wandy is a sell? His supporting stats look good and he's made improvements over each of the 3 years he's played. He may not be able to hold the K rate, but he looks like a hold to me. Selling pretty low on Rollins, why wouldn't you wait till he has a little hot streak and then throw him out there if you don't believe in him. Seems like he has decent name appeal at the minimum.
Re, Wandy :goodposting: Unless you can get someone to buy him for his current stats, which are not maintainable, he's a hold.Cantu and Phillips are good sells but I'd find it hard to believe that those who purchased Phillips would be willing to sell.

Like Wandy, if you can get someone to purchase Pena for his current stats, do it. However, at his market value I think he's a hold, he's Ryan Howard at a more reasonable price.

I don't disagree with selling Rollins, I'm shopping him in a deep mixed, if I can sell him for a 3rd round pick-like return I'm doing it. You need reserves at SS or get one back to do it, thankfully I drafted Scutaro and picked up Hairston so I can probably do it.

I don't see how Cruz and Cliff are buy low's, their market value seems about the same as pre-season.

I don't think Lester's a buy, but I also didn't have him in my top 40 pitchers pre-season, I didn't expect him to be this bad but he wasn't worth what he was going for in March.

 
Finless said:
Buy

John Lester

Nelson Cruz

Cliff Lee

Slowey

Alexei

Sell

Rollins

Phillips

Wandy

Cantu

Carlos Pena
I'm curious as to why Wandy is a sell? His supporting stats look good and he's made improvements over each of the 3 years he's played. He may not be able to hold the K rate, but he looks like a hold to me. Selling pretty low on Rollins, why wouldn't you wait till he has a little hot streak and then throw him out there if you don't believe in him. Seems like he has decent name appeal at the minimum.
I think Wandy could be dished to an owner for more than his worth. I don't believe he's as good as he's pitching right now. Rollins wouldn't be a sell low because he was a late first round pick just 6 weeks ago. I would have never picked him there but plenty of others did. He's older now. No doubt slower and those power numbers in 2006-2007 were an anomaly. I know he was injured for a portion of last year but he still only managed 11 HRs. Much close to what he had hit earlier in his career. This year he has 2 with 2 stolen bases? I say sell...someone will overpay for him.
 
Finless said:
Buy

John Lester

Nelson Cruz

Cliff Lee

Slowey

Alexei

Sell

Rollins

Phillips

Wandy

Cantu

Carlos Pena
I'm curious as to why Wandy is a sell? His supporting stats look good and he's made improvements over each of the 3 years he's played. He may not be able to hold the K rate, but he looks like a hold to me. Selling pretty low on Rollins, why wouldn't you wait till he has a little hot streak and then throw him out there if you don't believe in him. Seems like he has decent name appeal at the minimum.
I think Wandy could be dished to an owner for more than his worth. I don't believe he's as good as he's pitching right now. Rollins wouldn't be a sell low because he was a late first round pick just 6 weeks ago. I would have never picked him there but plenty of others did. He's older now. No doubt slower and those power numbers in 2006-2007 were an anomaly. I know he was injured for a portion of last year but he still only managed 11 HRs. Much close to what he had hit earlier in his career. This year he has 2 with 2 stolen bases? I say sell...someone will overpay for him.
I'm not sure how much you can get for Wandy when he was drafted as a 4th or 5th starter. He may be pitching over his head, but I don't see many people believing this is his breakout year, so selling him for much more than a struggling 3 seems like the best you might get. For the upside he's shown, I'd rather just keep him and rake while you can. As to Rollins, I agree you'll probably get overpaid based on name right now, so why wouldn't you wait till that little hot streak comes and extort even more? All you'd need is a few games I think.
 
Finless said:
Buy

John Lester

Nelson Cruz

Cliff Lee

Slowey

Alexei

Sell

Rollins

Phillips

Wandy

Cantu

Carlos Pena
I'm curious as to why Wandy is a sell? His supporting stats look good and he's made improvements over each of the 3 years he's played. He may not be able to hold the K rate, but he looks like a hold to me. Selling pretty low on Rollins, why wouldn't you wait till he has a little hot streak and then throw him out there if you don't believe in him. Seems like he has decent name appeal at the minimum.
Re, Wandy :football: Unless you can get someone to buy him for his current stats, which are not maintainable, he's a hold.Cantu and Phillips are good sells but I'd find it hard to believe that those who purchased Phillips would be willing to sell.

Like Wandy, if you can get someone to purchase Pena for his current stats, do it. However, at his market value I think he's a hold, he's Ryan Howard at a more reasonable price.

I don't disagree with selling Rollins, I'm shopping him in a deep mixed, if I can sell him for a 3rd round pick-like return I'm doing it. You need reserves at SS or get one back to do it, thankfully I drafted Scutaro and picked up Hairston so I can probably do it.

I don't see how Cruz and Cliff are buy low's, their market value seems about the same as pre-season.

I don't think Lester's a buy, but I also didn't have him in my top 40 pitchers pre-season, I didn't expect him to be this bad but he wasn't worth what he was going for in March.
Lester's walk rate is the same as last year, but his K rate has gone through the roof (10.7 from 6.5 LY and 7.1 Career) plus his babip is almost a whole point over his career number. His K rate seems unlikely to hold, but it probably won't drop to LY or career numbers either. Seems like a decent buy to me.
 
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Buy

John Lester

Nelson Cruz

Cliff Lee

Slowey

Alexei

Sell

Rollins

Phillips

Wandy

Cantu

Carlos Pena
I'm curious as to why Wandy is a sell? His supporting stats look good and he's made improvements over each of the 3 years he's played. He may not be able to hold the K rate, but he looks like a hold to me. Selling pretty low on Rollins, why wouldn't you wait till he has a little hot streak and then throw him out there if you don't believe in him. Seems like he has decent name appeal at the minimum.
Re, Wandy :rolleyes: Unless you can get someone to buy him for his current stats, which are not maintainable, he's a hold.Cantu and Phillips are good sells but I'd find it hard to believe that those who purchased Phillips would be willing to sell.

Like Wandy, if you can get someone to purchase Pena for his current stats, do it. However, at his market value I think he's a hold, he's Ryan Howard at a more reasonable price.

I don't disagree with selling Rollins, I'm shopping him in a deep mixed, if I can sell him for a 3rd round pick-like return I'm doing it. You need reserves at SS or get one back to do it, thankfully I drafted Scutaro and picked up Hairston so I can probably do it.

I don't see how Cruz and Cliff are buy low's, their market value seems about the same as pre-season.

I don't think Lester's a buy, but I also didn't have him in my top 40 pitchers pre-season, I didn't expect him to be this bad but he wasn't worth what he was going for in March.
Lester's walk rate is the same as last year, but his K rate has gone through the roof (10.7 from 6.5 LY and 7.1 Career) plus his babip is almost a whole point over his career number. His K rate seems unlikely to hold, but it probably won't drop to LY or career numbers either. Seems like a decent buy to me.
Ground balls, fly balls, and line drives. 2008 was the exception to the rule, he's not a ground ball pitcher. He's not going to continue to be this bad unless he's hurt but I never expected anything better than 4.25/1.35 from the beginning, his maintained walk rate and increased k rate is encouraging but I don't think you're robbing anyone unless you get him for significantly better than 4.00/1.30 with slightly regressed k and bb rates. If you can, cool, but I doubt his name will allow that.
 
A guy in my redraft league offered me Grady Sizemore for Wandy Rodriguiz and Matt Kemp. I picked up both of them in the FA pool.

Any thoughts? I am a FBB rookie. Wandy has more than a K an inning and is piling up points.

 
A guy in my redraft league offered me Grady Sizemore for Wandy Rodriguiz and Matt Kemp. I picked up both of them in the FA pool.Any thoughts? I am a FBB rookie. Wandy has more than a K an inning and is piling up points.
tough decision, it could be argued that kemp was as valuable as sizemore at the beginning of the season. kemp is still hitting in the bottom of the order, even with many gone. sizemore has been a bit of a dissapointment this year. wandy has been a pleasant surprise and has always been a good k option. im drunk but id probably do it. i dont see wandy keeping this pace and youre getting the best player in the trade. maybe he will throw in someone else from his team to avoid dropping someone. maybe hes got someone to take a flier on...
 
A guy in my redraft league offered me Grady Sizemore for Wandy Rodriguiz and Matt Kemp. I picked up both of them in the FA pool.Any thoughts? I am a FBB rookie. Wandy has more than a K an inning and is piling up points.
Even trade. Depends if you can make up the loss in Wandy
 
Da Guru said:
A guy in my redraft league offered me Grady Sizemore for Wandy Rodriguiz and Matt Kemp. I picked up both of them in the FA pool.Any thoughts? I am a FBB rookie. Wandy has more than a K an inning and is piling up points.
How would Kemp ever be in any free agent pool?
 
I was offered Mark Reynolds and Max Scherer for Zimmerman. NL Only 5x5.Thoughts?
Jesus christ god no
:confused: Why? Seems like something to seriously consider imho.
Because Zimmerman is finally playing like the 1st round pick many expected. Reynolds is nothing more than a strikeout machine. And Scherzer is a very good young arm but in a redraft league holds little value. He just got his first win of his career, he plays for a bad team, and his strikeout numbers arent there yet.
 
I was offered Mark Reynolds and Max Scherer for Zimmerman. NL Only 5x5.Thoughts?
Jesus christ god no
:yucky: Why? Seems like something to seriously consider imho.
Because Zimmerman is finally playing like the 1st round pick many expected. Reynolds is nothing more than a strikeout machine. And Scherzer is a very good young arm but in a redraft league holds little value. He just got his first win of his career, he plays for a bad team, and his strikeout numbers arent there yet.
I think you're under valuing Reynolds and Mad Max. Reynolds K's a lot, but he also mashes and swipes bags. He has 40 HR and 15 SB upside, not too sure you can say the same re power for Zimmerman and I know you can't say the same re speed. Mad Max has #1 upside and he has shown the K potential in his time in the majors. Will he get it this year? next year? never? I don't know, but as cheap as he is right now speculating on him would be worth it for a team struggling with pitching that needs to take a chance. The fact that he just got his first win means almost nothing to me, wins are the most unpredictable cat in the game. If the guy has a struggling team that needs to take some chances and can potentially withstand the downgraded ratios I'd strongly consider this deal. If the guy has a solid team already then I wouldn't take this gamble. If it's somewhere in the middle I'd counter for a little more.
 
I was offered Mark Reynolds and Max Scherer for Zimmerman. NL Only 5x5.

Thoughts?
Jesus christ god no
:no: Why? Seems like something to seriously consider imho.
Because Zimmerman is finally playing like the 1st round pick many expected. Reynolds is nothing more than a strikeout machine. And Scherzer is a very good young arm but in a redraft league holds little value. He just got his first win of his career, he plays for a bad team, and his strikeout numbers arent there yet.
I think you're under valuing Reynolds and Mad Max. Reynolds K's a lot, but he also mashes and swipes bags. He has 40 HR and 15 SB upside, not too sure you can say the same re power for Zimmerman and I know you can't say the same re speed. Mad Max has #1 upside and he has shown the K potential in his time in the majors. Will he get it this year? next year? never? I don't know, but as cheap as he is right now speculating on him would be worth it for a team struggling with pitching that needs to take a chance. The fact that he just got his first win means almost nothing to me, wins are the most unpredictable cat in the game. If the guy has a struggling team that needs to take some chances and can potentially withstand the downgraded ratios I'd strongly consider this deal. If the guy has a solid team already then I wouldn't take this gamble. If it's somewhere in the middle I'd counter for a little more.
Are we talking about the same Mark Reynolds? The guy is horrible.I dont think he has any potential at 40 hrs and he wil absolutely destroy your ratios.

 
Are we talking about the same Mark Reynolds? The guy is horrible.

I dont think he has any potential at 40 hrs and he wil absolutely destroy your ratios.
Yes, the same Mark Reynolds, he's a much better fantasy player than real player for sure; they can't move him off third base fast enough. Still, he has an 87/28/97/11 season under his belt, he's just 25 years old, his batting eye is improving, and right now he's on pace for 90/36/75/18. If the guys in front of him can get on base (I'm frustratingly looking in Conor Jackson's direction) those RBI numbers should go up. He'll drag your avg down a few notches but the gains he provides elsewhere will make up for that.
 
Da Guru said:
A guy in my redraft league offered me Grady Sizemore for Wandy Rodriguiz and Matt Kemp. I picked up both of them in the FA pool.Any thoughts? I am a FBB rookie. Wandy has more than a K an inning and is piling up points.
How would Kemp ever be in any free agent pool?
We only carry a limited amounts of bench players. This guy had a number on injuries on his infield and had to make a decision on Kemp. The guy was loaded in OFs.
 

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