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Buy Low / Sell High (1 Viewer)

'todisco1 said:
'howo5 said:
I think the trick to this exercise is identifying players drafted High, that performed well week 1, but we know is a mirage. Something like selling Reggie Wayne, Matt Forte or Greg Jennings. Noone is going to trade Vincent Jackson for Kenny Britt or Chris Johnson for Tolbert assuming you play in a normal league. Can we try and identify these players?Also, of use would be to identify players that we learned something about to target that might trick the other owner to thinking they're selling high.Example: Steve Smith (If we think he's back), Matt Stafford (If he's really a top 5 can be had for the price of Matt Ryan prob right now)
Good points, though I think VJax and Britt are very close and wouldn't blink if someone gave VJax for Britt. I wouldn't buy Blount or DeAngelo, but I would be interested in acquiring Mendenhall at a slight discount if the owner isn't happy.
You take VJax over Britt in a heartbeat. Now I think Britt is going to be a solid #2WR, but the TEN pie isn't going to be that big. Rivers is going to throw for close to 300 yards everyweek. VJax is going to get his.....he just had a bad game....all WRs have them.
I don't know about this; I think Britt is every bit as talented as VJax and he's going to see more targets than VJax. Rivers is a great QB but there are a lot of mouths to feed. It's a bigger pie but a smaller piece. Brit IS the Titans passing game. He was great with garbage at QB last season, Hass will be able to get him the ball. I don't think many would be surprised if Britt outscores VJax this season, he's an elite talent.
 
'Magic_Man said:
'dagwood said:
'Magic_Man said:
Sell high on Tolbert.
Depends on your definition of high.In a PPR league, Tolbert is going to be a solid play with upside.Sell High - Steve Smith of Carolina
I own him & Matthews in a PPR league & I am trying to sell high. However, the only offer I have so far is Avant for Tolbert. No way would I do that.
In a PPR league I would definately keep them both.
 
'Carolina Hustler said:
'JuSt CuZ said:
'steelwind said:
Carolina Steve Smith sell high right now. This the highest his stock will ever be this year.
Disagree, and you are missing the concept of fantasy if you believe so.Its about opportunity. Steve got lots of targets and did tons with it. what else do you want out of a starting WR? They should have to throw a lot this year as that Carolina D looked bad...and I doubt that Cam just stops throwing to his favorite target.
Smith will not have many, if any, games that good again this season, or in his career probably.AZ totally sold out on stopping the run, which leaves S.Smith in single coverage, and in many cases, blown coverage.. This won't happen again..Smith will still be a good WR2-3 this season, but this game was an anomaly for him..
This.I live in CAR and saw the game.....I could have almost completed that pass to Smith when he went for that 75 yard TD......he was THAT wide open.
If SS is sell high what do you think you'll get for him? I'm guessing you won't get anythingbetter than he's worth untill he has a few more nice games.
 
'Magic_Man said:
'dagwood said:
'Magic_Man said:
Sell high on Tolbert.
Depends on your definition of high.In a PPR league, Tolbert is going to be a solid play with upside.Sell High - Steve Smith of Carolina
I own him & Matthews in a PPR league & I am trying to sell high. However, the only offer I have so far is Avant for Tolbert. No way would I do that.
In a PPR league I would definately keep them both.
This. The upside potential of owning Matthews and Tolbert is very high. All you need is one of them to be injured and you have at the very least a solid RB2 going forward. The only way you trade one of them is if you get a high quality player in return.
 
As an Evans owner who was at the game yesterday, I agree with PhantonJB. There were multiple plays designed specifically to get Evans involved, but the Steelers did a good job rolling the safety on him, and one play resulted in a sack. But otherwise, Flacco rarely looked Evans' way.

I would guess Baltimore targets will look this way:

1. Q

2. Rice

3. Dickson

4/5. Pitta/Evans

I'm in a 16 team league, so options are limited. I'll probably hold onto Evans and make him a matchup WR3, as there are some promising matchups for the Ravens passing game throughout the season

'PhantomJB said:
'SieteCinco said:
End of week 1 approaching, time to take advantage of 80% of the fantasy owners second guessing some of their draft picks!

Buy Low:

Lee Evans: He helped him team out a lot more than his stat line shows (0 catches, 0 yards,) clearing out the safeties for everyone else on the offense. Flacco led the league in TD's of 20+ yards last year.. and his top five targets were Mason, Housh, Boldin, Heap, and Rice... none of them are among the leagues best deep threats. Evans is, or at least has the talent to be. Ravens also looked great.

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Nice list so don't want to appear nitpicking but would have to completely disagree with buying Lee Evans. Personally, I just dropped him to waivers in a 10-teamer.Reasoning is two-fold

1) the knock on him has always been inconsistency and the change of scenery was an opportunity for him to raise his floor significantly with BAL (my expectations were at least 3-5 catches / 50-60yds). Now he is squarely back in the boom / bust category and way to risky to start as anything othere than a WR3 where you have two other solid starting options.

2) Obviously in deep leagues this wouldn't be the case, but generally there are plenty of other matchup WR3 options for any given week sitting on the waiver wire.
 
%26%2339%3BResident%2520A%26%2339%3B said:
%2526%252339%253Beaglesfan7%2526%252339%253B said:
Do NOT buy low:

Shonne Greene - the Oline stinks and they are transitioning to a pass-first offense. he doesn't catch the ball much
This is a moronic comment. The Jets have the best O-line in the NFL & will always be a run-first team.
44 passes, 16 rushes last night.If they're gonna be a run-first team, they've got a lot of catching up to do.

edit: last season the Jets ran 553 passing plays and 534 rushing plays. Moronic comment indeed. :lmao:

 
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'JuSt CuZ said:
'steelwind said:
Carolina Steve Smith sell high right now. This the highest his stock will ever be this year.
Disagree, and you are missing the concept of fantasy if you believe so.Its about opportunity. Steve got lots of targets and did tons with it. what else do you want out of a starting WR? They should have to throw a lot this year as that Carolina D looked bad...and I doubt that Cam just stops throwing to his favorite target.
I'm not missing anything at all. Steve Smith had the best WR stat of week 1 with 178 yards and 2 TDs. Those are elite WR1 stats for just one week. But leading up to the season Steve Smith was ranked by all the experts as a WR3 with WR2 upside. So his stock is way high right now. Since this thread is about Buy Low/Sell High, Steve Smith falls under the category of a Sell High candidate.You're a homer and it's not like I stomped all over your boy. Steve Smith is still a WR3 with WR2 upside. But we all know Cam Newton is not going to chuck it 35 times a game. And we all know that Carolina does not play Arizona for 16 weeks. I think you're the one missing the point.
 
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'Resident%20A said:
%26%2339%3Beaglesfan7%26%2339%3B said:
Do NOT buy low:

Shonne Greene - the Oline stinks and they are transitioning to a pass-first offense. he doesn't catch the ball much
This is a moronic comment. The Jets have the best O-line in the NFL & will always be a run-first team.
44 passes, 16 rushes last night.If they're gonna be a run-first team, they've got a lot of catching up to do.
They were behind the whole night. They don't play the Cowboys every week.
 
'JuSt CuZ said:
'steelwind said:
Carolina Steve Smith sell high right now. This the highest his stock will ever be this year.
Disagree, and you are missing the concept of fantasy if you believe so.Its about opportunity. Steve got lots of targets and did tons with it. what else do you want out of a starting WR? They should have to throw a lot this year as that Carolina D looked bad...and I doubt that Cam just stops throwing to his favorite target.
I'm not missing anything at all. Steve Smith had the best WR stat of week 1 with 178 yards and 2 TDs. Those are elite WR1 stats for just one week. But leading up to the season Steve Smith was ranked by all the experts as a WR3 with WR2 upside. So his stock is way high right now. Since this thread is about Buy Low/Sell High, Steve Smith falls under the category of a Sell High candidate.You're a homer and it's not like I stomped all over your boy. Steve Smith is still a WR3 with WR2 upside. But we all know Cam Newton is not going to chuck it 35 times a game. And we all know that Carolina does not play Arizona for 16 weeks. I think you're the one missing the point.
And Cam Newton is not going to throw for 400 yards every week. And the stats are inflated by that first TD catch which was a blown coverage. Comments like the one from the homer above make me wish I had drafted Smith in more leagues. I threw the line out and we will see what we get. I am a definate Steve Smith seller though right now.
 
I think selling Steve Smith will have the same result as selling Lloyd after the first one or two games last season.

Clarification: I am NOT saying Smitty will lead the league in yards, but the probability that he will outscore anything you can get for him now is IMO pretty high.

 
'Magic_Man said:
'dagwood said:
'Magic_Man said:
Sell high on Tolbert.
Depends on your definition of high.In a PPR league, Tolbert is going to be a solid play with upside.Sell High - Steve Smith of Carolina
I own him & Matthews in a PPR league & I am trying to sell high. However, the only offer I have so far is Avant for Tolbert. No way would I do that.
In a PPR league I would definately keep them both.
This. The upside potential of owning Matthews and Tolbert is very high. All you need is one of them to be injured and you have at the very least a solid RB2 going forward. The only way you trade one of them is if you get a high quality player in return.
I put an offer of Tolbert & Doucet for Holmes & Hardesty out there, but I may pull it.
 
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'Carolina Hustler said:
'JuSt CuZ said:
'steelwind said:
Carolina Steve Smith sell high right now. This the highest his stock will ever be this year.
Disagree, and you are missing the concept of fantasy if you believe so.Its about opportunity. Steve got lots of targets and did tons with it. what else do you want out of a starting WR? They should have to throw a lot this year as that Carolina D looked bad...and I doubt that Cam just stops throwing to his favorite target.
Smith will not have many, if any, games that good again this season, or in his career probably.AZ totally sold out on stopping the run, which leaves S.Smith in single coverage, and in many cases, blown coverage.. This won't happen again..Smith will still be a good WR2-3 this season, but this game was an anomaly for him..
This.I live in CAR and saw the game.....I could have almost completed that pass to Smith when he went for that 75 yard TD......he was THAT wide open.
Steve Smith is a big-play WR. You cannot downplay his game because he was able to get wide open for a 75 yard TD - that is a good thing. However, even if you want to call it irrelevant based on bad coverage (which is silly), he still had 100 yards and a TD yesterday. I will take it.
 
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I think selling Steve Smith will have the same result as selling Lloyd after the first one or two games last season.Clarification: I am NOT saying Smitty will lead the league in yards, but the probability that he will outscore anything you can get for him now is IMO pretty high.
Sell High candidates are used to fill an area of need on your team. If you are stacked on WRs and Steve Smith was on your bench, and if your team needs a RB then he is your trade bait. And if you were to target a player who is a Buy Low, such as LaGarette Blount or Ryan Mathews, then you are a "Shark". Blount and Mathews may not return the same amount of points as Steve Smith, but if it fills a RB need on your team then it's a WIN.
 
Any thoughts on if Colston will come back in time to have any value? Our league has a team who has vjax & Colston and steve Jackson. I have Knicks, Wayne as my starting WR and light at RB with Ingram as my number two.

Think it is worth offering Wayne and S Smith for Vjax and Sjax (or failing that Colston)?

 
I'm shopping Smith for a top 15 WR. Made many offers and am contemplating several tasty counteroffers throughout all the leagues I have him in. I am slightly nervous because Cam went after him at all circumstances.

 
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As an Evans owner who was at the game yesterday, I agree with PhantonJB. There were multiple plays designed specifically to get Evans involved, but the Steelers did a good job rolling the safety on him, and one play resulted in a sack. But otherwise, Flacco rarely looked Evans' way.

I would guess Baltimore targets will look this way:

1. Q

2. Rice

3. Dickson

4/5. Pitta/Evans

I'm in a 16 team league, so options are limited. I'll probably hold onto Evans and make him a matchup WR3, as there are some promising matchups for the Ravens passing game throughout the season

'PhantomJB said:
'SieteCinco said:
End of week 1 approaching, time to take advantage of 80% of the fantasy owners second guessing some of their draft picks!

Buy Low:

Lee Evans: He helped him team out a lot more than his stat line shows (0 catches, 0 yards,) clearing out the safeties for everyone else on the offense. Flacco led the league in TD's of 20+ yards last year.. and his top five targets were Mason, Housh, Boldin, Heap, and Rice... none of them are among the leagues best deep threats. Evans is, or at least has the talent to be. Ravens also looked great.

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Nice list so don't want to appear nitpicking but would have to completely disagree with buying Lee Evans. Personally, I just dropped him to waivers in a 10-teamer.Reasoning is two-fold

1) the knock on him has always been inconsistency and the change of scenery was an opportunity for him to raise his floor significantly with BAL (my expectations were at least 3-5 catches / 50-60yds). Now he is squarely back in the boom / bust category and way to risky to start as anything othere than a WR3 where you have two other solid starting options.

2) Obviously in deep leagues this wouldn't be the case, but generally there are plenty of other matchup WR3 options for any given week sitting on the waiver wire.
I agree. I noticed the same thing.in the early going this will bump up boldin's value, but eventually they will find ways to work Evans into the mix more.

 
Buy low

Arian Foster... play up Tate's game and potential RBBC. Targeting him in all leagues, offering someone like a Felix Jones or Ryan Mathews. Helps that I have Tate in most of my leagues.

Roethlisberger/Ryan... I'd trade a Kolb or Cutler straight up for either of these.

Sell high

Tougher call... maybe BAL D? Not sure what you could get from them, but someone will certainly overpay.

 
Buy low

Arian Foster... play up Tate's game and potential RBBC. Targeting him in all leagues, offering someone like a Felix Jones or Ryan Mathews. Helps that I have Tate in most of my leagues.

Roethlisberger/Ryan... I'd trade a Kolb or Cutler straight up for either of these.

Sell high

Tougher call... maybe BAL D? Not sure what you could get from them, but someone will certainly overpay.
Will do the same, offering Felix and Cam Newton for Foster

 
'eaglesfan7 said:
'FGITLOTR said:
How about Vincent Jackson as a buy low candidate? He only had 2 for 35 and maybe some owners will be worried
Definitely. I'm going after him this week.
If they watched the game, they'll know Rivers just missed him on a 40+ yard TD. I own him in about 5 leagues and wouldn't consider selling low or lateral. Would upgrade him for Calvin/Andre/Fitz and that's about it.
 
I'm gonna try to sell high & low at the same time... In a start 2 WR league (also a WR/RB/TE FLEX position) where I own Calvin & MWTB, I'm dangling Smiff + Shonn Greene or DWill so I can get a more reliable RB in return. I'm not "deadset" on moving these guys, just curious to see if I can get any compelling trade talks going. I highly doubt I can get too much in return though as the stench of the Carolina offense of the past few years still lingers. And peeps will still be questioning Cam. I've already gotten one response of "dude, it was against Arizona".

 
I'm gonna try to sell high & low at the same time... In a start 2 WR league (also a WR/RB/TE FLEX position) where I own Calvin & MWTB, I'm dangling Smiff + Shonn Greene or DWill so I can get a more reliable RB in return. I'm not "deadset" on moving these guys, just curious to see if I can get any compelling trade talks going. I highly doubt I can get too much in return though as the stench of the Carolina offense of the past few years still lingers. And peeps will still be questioning Cam. I've already gotten one response of "dude, it was against Arizona".
Did they not play Arizona Sunday?
 
'Magic_Man said:
'solorca said:
I think that a lot of people see Vincent Jackson as a buy low candidate this week. I've already received emails/texts about trades for him from 8 people between the two leagues I have him.
Yep, I was just offered AJ Green for him in a keeper (NON-PPR). I'm not going to do it.
I would hope not. AJ Green did not have a catch until his TD in 4th, and the only reason he scored is because the Browns D were in a huddle and Cincy snapped the ball and Green was wide open because nobody was out there to cover him. It was like practice offense against no defense. Green was terrible today and there is no way that I would grab him if I needed a 1 year fix. IN the long term he will be good, but not a chance I am touching Cincy offense accept for Ced Benson who would be on my sell high list! He will get touches but this offense will be shut down most games
 
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I would wait until after next weeks game against Green Bay and target Steve Smith as a buy low THEN. I don't see a single matchup from week three on I would be afraid of, and Newton will be throwing the ball his way.. even if he does have a few preseason like games and they don't connect.

 
If I drafted Benson, which I definitely did not, then I'd be all about selling him for whatever I could get. He had 24 carries @ 3.4 ypc before that last run-out-the-clock run that Cleveland laid down for and resulted in a 39 yd TD. He ended the game with a very respectable 25 caries for 121/1 @ 4.8 ypc. This may be your last chance to get anything for a guy who put up an amazing 16 games worth of 3.5 ypc last year.

 
LOL pretty sure I am starting up a bidding war in my one league for HIGHTOWAHHHHHH lolz love it cuz he literly will not get in my lineup unless there is an injury and I have Ingram Behind who I think is a good buy low right now...I am getting Brandon Marshall/Welker/VJax being discussed right now and considering my wr 1 is probably at this point Boldin or Knox it is welcomed :)

 
'Resident%20A said:
%26%2339%3Beaglesfan7%26%2339%3B said:
Do NOT buy low:

Shonne Greene - the Oline stinks and they are transitioning to a pass-first offense. he doesn't catch the ball much
This is a moronic comment. The Jets have the best O-line in the NFL & will always be a run-first team.
44 passes, 16 rushes last night.If they're gonna be a run-first team, they've got a lot of catching up to do.
They were behind the whole night. They don't play the Cowboys every week.
Cowboys secondary was also decimated by injury and I am sure the Jets game plan was to try and exploit that fact.
 
If I drafted Benson, which I definitely did not, then I'd be all about selling him for whatever I could get. He had 24 carries @ 3.4 ypc before that last run-out-the-clock run that Cleveland laid down for and resulted in a 39 yd TD. He ended the game with a very respectable 25 caries for 121/1 @ 4.8 ypc. This may be your last chance to get anything for a guy who put up an amazing 16 games worth of 3.5 ypc last year.
Assuming he gets 25 carries per game and scores a TD, I'll take that from my RB2/3.
 
'eaglesfan7 said:
'FGITLOTR said:
How about Vincent Jackson as a buy low candidate? He only had 2 for 35 and maybe some owners will be worried
Definitely. I'm going after him this week.
What are you going to offer? You think someone who drafted him in the 2nd or 3rd round is going to part with him after 1 week?
 
RE VJAX

Gates 13 targets

Tolbert 9 Targets

Floyd 8 targets

Mathews 5 Targets

JHester 4 targets

McMichael 3 Targets

VJAX 3 Targets

Some dude 2 Targets.

As a Dynasty River's & Gates owner I'm always interested in acquiring the #1 WR option on SD. This distribution of targets concerns me as a potential buyer of VJAX. Tolbert made the most of his. Floyd was in the mix. Was Vjax a decoy/being covered by best player/double teamed? I didn't get to watch it.

I looked thru Week1 Targets and there were some surprises.

Antonio Brown 2 catches on 9 targets.

MWilliams TB 4 catches on 10 targets. Got a TD but definitely room for upside.

L Evans 0 for 4

A Collie 0 for 3

D Bowe 2 for 8 is that because KC sucks or loss of Weis? BUF dominate DEF? Crap QB? Bonehead talented WR?

Avant targetd 7 times...Maclin 3. Huh?

DBaldwin SEA 6 for 4/81/1 lead team in targets. Is this bc RICE is out? Will he become starter?

Harvin 4 targets 2/7/0 Lead team in Targets with 4.

A Benn 7 targets pretty good even tho quiet 4/27/0 game.

Steve Smith and Britt have been discussed.

What I saw was:

Smith targeted 11 times. He caught 8 and did a lot with them attacking the ball in the air. But no one else really showed up in targets category other than Olson.

Britt...similar. 10 targets caught 5 and for 136/2...just think if he caught 8. There's room to improve. Nate Washington was next best caught 6 of 7 targets for 67yds 0 TDs...that's about as good of a game you can expect from him. Only notable in PPR.

Other players:

M.Thomas. 11 targets caught 8 for 55yds..that kind of sucks. < 7yd per catch avg. PPR it's not bad...you'd hope for more production from him. He had just as many targets and REC as Steve Smith CAR.

Cadillac Williams: 10 targets? 5 catches 49yds wow that's a lot of targets.

E. Grahm 8 catches on 9 targets for 58. Was this situation of playing from behind or sign of things to come as Formula to beat TB?

This isn't everyone. I just hope to understand what it means and where I can capitalize etc:

I'm surprised VJAX wasn't targeted more. Or that Avant was targeted more than twice what Maclin was in PHI. NO targets were evenly distributed 9, 9, 9, 8, 7. With Colston out I see those increasing to others more. But for how long? I guess being 25% of targets in NO is better than top Targetted player in SF. V Davis.

Earl Bennett projected to be PPR animal in 2011. 4/2/11/0.

ROY WILLIAMs washed up etc 4/4/55/0...lost starter job to Knox or something in camp...I don't remember but has sucked in camp. At least he caught everything.

MSW Sleeper breakout year. 4/1/5/0. That's 4 targets, 1 catch 5 yards and 0 Tds.

I've typed enough. Interested in reading more comments.

Does Greg Salas, Lance Kendricks, Mike Sims Walker benefit from most from Amendola injury? MSW failed to show up...does he still have sleeper breakout upside? Probably but don't want to wait forever.

Were Antonio Brown 9 targets b/c E. Sanders has been hurt and didn't get in as many plays. Ward got 9 targets...surprisingly. Williams 11 I think but caught 8 for 100+. Better for his PPR #'s when he was more of a boom/bust deep guy.

DJaX 12/6/102/TD should've been 12/8/102+/3TDs I guess. This guy still has upside. He needs to quit dropping TDs.

 
Buy low

Arian Foster... play up Tate's game and potential RBBC. Targeting him in all leagues, offering someone like a Felix Jones or Ryan Mathews. Helps that I have Tate in most of my leagues.

Roethlisberger/Ryan... I'd trade a Kolb or Cutler straight up for either of these.

Sell high

Tougher call... maybe BAL D? Not sure what you could get from them, but someone will certainly overpay.
I would want alot more for Big Ben than either of those two right now, Steelers schedule has alot of bad defenses coming up and later this year too.Just because he didn't play "great" on the road against a division rival that had alot more on the line( it was almost a "must" win game for Balt. even though it is week one) doesn't mean I would just give him away after a team loss...the Steelers had all three timeouts and didn't use them at the end and stalled on Baltimores 25 yard line, they could've used them and scored a garbage time TD instead of just letting the clock run out, which would have put him over 300 yards with 2 TD's, I'll take that every week...

You can try and get him for one of those guys, but you're gonna have to find an owner that doesn't know what they're doing to make that trade.

 
'steelwind said:
Carolina Steve Smith sell high right now. This the highest his stock will ever be this year.
Yeah, but the fact that he did it week 1 and hasn't had a performance like that all year...doubt you can get tier 1 back.I think Nicks is a sell-high given that it's only week 1 and he's already nursing several ailments.
 
'eaglesfan7 said:
Buy low:Mario Manningham - receiver will have some big games with Nicks always banged up and the Giants injuries on defenseJamaal Charles - last season may have been a fluke and Weiss is gone but he is going to catch a ton of passesCJ2K - yes, some owners will sell and he'll bust out for 200 yardsDo NOT buy low:Shonne Greene - the Oline stinks and they are transitioning to a pass-first offense. he doesn't catch the ball muchSell high:Fred JacksonTanner9919 said buy low on the Ben Tate (100 and a td), Fred Jackson (over 100) and 49ers defense lol, they only scored 40 points in some leagues and Kevin Kolb? He had over 300 yards and 2 tds. Do you know what 'buy low' means?
Thats what I was gonna say too... thought the point of Buy Low/Sell High was to sell a player when their stock was too high due to a great game that is not typical of their expected performance for the year, or buy a player when the reverse happens... as in Charles or Chris Johnson...
 
'Resident A said:
This is a moronic comment. The Jets have the best O-line in the NFL & will always be a run-first team.
Plenty of evidence lately (last season, and so far this season) to prove otherwise.I've owned Greene in a dynasty since he was a rookie and he looks the same to me. He's not going to be an every week starter. Bye week fill-in at best, and you'd better hope they're playing a weak team when you start him.
I'm thinking of buying high on LT2 in PPR leagues for this reason. Don't get me wrong, I think Greene comes into his own and becomes more reliable/serviceable, but he's no CuMar, and from what I've seen last year and this, the real value for the Jets team comes in the passing game, not their running game.
 
'eaglesfan7 said:
'FGITLOTR said:
How about Vincent Jackson as a buy low candidate? He only had 2 for 35 and maybe some owners will be worried
Definitely. I'm going after him this week.
Rivers over threw jackson on a sure TD. get him while you can.
In a 10-team league where I'm ridiculously deep in RB, I am trying to swap Jacksons -- his Vincent for my Fred.Fred Jackson will continue to be serviceable and see success against weaker opponents, and he can handle the load, but I think Spiller becomes involved more and they will struggle against tougher divisional opponents. I need a relatively stronger WR corps, and VJAX is the prescription for what ails me.If there is ever a time to buy low on VJAX, it's now. I think what we saw were just Week 1 fits and starts.
 
E. Grahm 8 catches on 9 targets for 58. Was this situation of playing from behind or sign of things to come as Formula to beat TB?
TB completely abandoned the run and Blount was kept off the field the rest of the game pretty much, will only happen when Tampa gets behind like this, which is impossible to predict.
Does Greg Salas, Lance Kendricks, Mike Sims Walker benefit from most from Amendola injury? MSW failed to show up...does he still have sleeper breakout upside? Probably but don't want to wait forever.
MSW had Asomugha on him most of the game, with Amendola out I think he will shine over the next few weeks.
 
Any thoughts on if Colston will come back in time to have any value? Our league has a team who has vjax & Colston and steve Jackson. I have Knicks, Wayne as my starting WR and light at RB with Ingram as my number two. Think it is worth offering Wayne and S Smith for Vjax and Sjax (or failing that Colston)?
You have a whole team of basketball players?
 
'Resident A said:
'eaglesfan7 said:
Do NOT buy low:Shonne Greene - the Oline stinks and they are transitioning to a pass-first offense. he doesn't catch the ball much
This is a moronic comment. The Jets have the best O-line in the NFL & will always be a run-first team.
I'm sorry I misspoke. I meant to say the Jets have one of the worst run blocking lines. They are great at pass blocking but nothing over the past 3 years shows they are good at run blocking. See LT2, Greene or anyone else they have had running the rock. They don't open holes either. Just watch the game. They are now a passing team. See last nights game. And don't say they were down the whole game because it was close throughout.
 
Below is an amazing post. Props to Crazy Tony! :popcorn:

RE VJAXGates 13 targetsTolbert 9 TargetsFloyd 8 targetsMathews 5 TargetsJHester 4 targetsMcMichael 3 TargetsVJAX 3 TargetsSome dude 2 Targets.As a Dynasty River's & Gates owner I'm always interested in acquiring the #1 WR option on SD. This distribution of targets concerns me as a potential buyer of VJAX. Tolbert made the most of his. Floyd was in the mix. Was Vjax a decoy/being covered by best player/double teamed? I didn't get to watch it.I looked thru Week1 Targets and there were some surprises.Antonio Brown 2 catches on 9 targets. MWilliams TB 4 catches on 10 targets. Got a TD but definitely room for upside. L Evans 0 for 4A Collie 0 for 3D Bowe 2 for 8 is that because KC sucks or loss of Weis? BUF dominate DEF? Crap QB? Bonehead talented WR?Avant targetd 7 times...Maclin 3. Huh?DBaldwin SEA 6 for 4/81/1 lead team in targets. Is this bc RICE is out? Will he become starter?Harvin 4 targets 2/7/0 Lead team in Targets with 4.A Benn 7 targets pretty good even tho quiet 4/27/0 game.Steve Smith and Britt have been discussed. What I saw was:Smith targeted 11 times. He caught 8 and did a lot with them attacking the ball in the air. But no one else really showed up in targets category other than Olson.Britt...similar. 10 targets caught 5 and for 136/2...just think if he caught 8. There's room to improve. Nate Washington was next best caught 6 of 7 targets for 67yds 0 TDs...that's about as good of a game you can expect from him. Only notable in PPR. Other players:M.Thomas. 11 targets caught 8 for 55yds..that kind of sucks. < 7yd per catch avg. PPR it's not bad...you'd hope for more production from him. He had just as many targets and REC as Steve Smith CAR. Cadillac Williams: 10 targets? 5 catches 49yds wow that's a lot of targets. E. Grahm 8 catches on 9 targets for 58. Was this situation of playing from behind or sign of things to come as Formula to beat TB?This isn't everyone. I just hope to understand what it means and where I can capitalize etc:I'm surprised VJAX wasn't targeted more. Or that Avant was targeted more than twice what Maclin was in PHI. NO targets were evenly distributed 9, 9, 9, 8, 7. With Colston out I see those increasing to others more. But for how long? I guess being 25% of targets in NO is better than top Targetted player in SF. V Davis. Earl Bennett projected to be PPR animal in 2011. 4/2/11/0. ROY WILLIAMs washed up etc 4/4/55/0...lost starter job to Knox or something in camp...I don't remember but has sucked in camp. At least he caught everything. MSW Sleeper breakout year. 4/1/5/0. That's 4 targets, 1 catch 5 yards and 0 Tds. I've typed enough. Interested in reading more comments. Does Greg Salas, Lance Kendricks, Mike Sims Walker benefit from most from Amendola injury? MSW failed to show up...does he still have sleeper breakout upside? Probably but don't want to wait forever. Were Antonio Brown 9 targets b/c E. Sanders has been hurt and didn't get in as many plays. Ward got 9 targets...surprisingly. Williams 11 I think but caught 8 for 100+. Better for his PPR #'s when he was more of a boom/bust deep guy. DJaX 12/6/102/TD should've been 12/8/102+/3TDs I guess. This guy still has upside. He needs to quit dropping TDs.
 
'eaglesfan7 said:
'Resident A said:
Do NOT buy low:Shonne Greene - the Oline stinks and they are transitioning to a pass-first offense. he doesn't catch the ball much
This is a moronic comment. The Jets have the best O-line in the NFL & will always be a run-first team.
I'm sorry I misspoke. I meant to say the Jets have one of the worst run blocking lines. They are great at pass blocking but nothing over the past 3 years shows they are good at run blocking. See LT2, Greene or anyone else they have had running the rock. They don't open holes either. Just watch the game. They are now a passing team. See last nights game. And don't say they were down the whole game because it was close throughout.
When Ryan was asked this afternoon on a NY radio show about the passing, and if NY will be a passing team 1st, he emphatically said no, they want to run the ball 1st. I do think they will give Sanchez a bit more of a leash on the offense, but if they can run the ball and control the clock and keep the D on the sidelines a bit more, I think that is what they will try.
 
Desean Jackson going for 1200+ and 8+ td's easy. Instead of ranked 12-15. I'd have him 6-10.

Vick just forcing him the ball. Jackson should have had 200 and 2. I know he has lots of drops. But guy is trying to get paid and Vick is going to key on him.

 
Does anyone think the terms 'Porno' or 'Bukake' Receiver will stick?

I'm looking for a new term that means a high # of targets.

It's used when a player has balls coming at him from everywhere regardless of being double teamed.

Not trying to be crude but it's funny and I'm thinking more in terms of audience and how they relate to things.

 
Carolina Steve Smith sell high right now. This the highest his stock will ever be this year.
Disagree, and you are missing the concept of fantasy if you believe so.Its about opportunity. Steve got lots of targets and did tons with it. what else do you want out of a starting WR? They should have to throw a lot this year as that Carolina D looked bad...and I doubt that Cam just stops throwing to his favorite target.
Smith will not have many, if any, games that good again this season, or in his career probably.AZ totally sold out on stopping the run, which leaves S.Smith in single coverage, and in many cases, blown coverage.. This won't happen again..Smith will still be a good WR2-3 this season, but this game was an anomaly for him..
How did Jake Delhomme do it? I mean, that guy was an average QB at best and everyone knew Smith was getting the ball. Matt Moore even hooked up with Smith a few times when he played. It seems to me that Jimmy Clausen was the problem for Smith. If Cam Newton's week 1 was a mirage and he somehow reverts to Clausenesque 40%-50% completion rates then Smith is in trouble, but I never saw Clausen ever make throws like Newton did Sunday, blown coverage or not.
 
These are not "Buy Low" candidates after 1 game.Vincent JacksonJamaal CharlesChris JohnsonRashard Mendenhall Dwayne BoweNo one with any sense who paid a 1-3rd round pick for one of these guys is going to give up after 1 game...
:goodposting: I'd love to see what some of those listed above are getting offered from someone that thinks they're going to "buy low". :confused:
 

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