Buzz Around David Boston Completely Gone (1 Viewer)

[Pitch12]

He was suppose to be back like three years ago. Boston is old news to me and a very tired act.

 

[Warpig]

David Boston June 2002 Keep your eye on him; December 2002 BUSTJune 2003 Keep your eye on him; December 2003 BUSTJune 2004 Keep your eye on him; December 2004 BUSTJune 2005 Keep your eye on him; December 2005 BUSTJune 2006 Keep your eye on him; December 2006 BUSTJune 2007 Keep your eye on him;My eye is tired.

You have two eyes don't you?

 

[ravnzfan]

First of all...

this one is for you, Bloom---love a guy that tosses one out there that is TOTALLY against the grain, and has the stones to stand up to his conviction

this conversation reminds me of the situation surounding Boston's teammate, Joey Galloway, from a couple years ago...

after a nice 4 year run to open his carreer---where Galloway posted at least 987 yds and 7 TD's in each of those 4 seasons, 5 of the next 6 seasons saw Galloway hold out, bounce around a couple rosters, miss large chunks of time, and avg like 400/2...he did sneak a 900/6 season in there, but for the most part, he was a "was"...most FF players wouldn't touch him

As a matter of fact, I just pulled up my '05 local redraft draft results to see where Galloway went--I remembered taking him and doing well w/him....

I took him as the last WR taken (@16.7--WR52) in a 16 round, 10 teamer....

...result---WR8 w/1287-10....188 FF points

I'm not saying the situations are the same, but Boston is younger than Galloway was at the time and is(was) every bit as talented....while the TB offense really struggled last yr w/Simms knocked out and Gradkowski not close to ready, I really believe Garcia has enough in the tank and enough around him to be productive

Boston doesn't have to beat out much to make the field, and w/their last place schedule, who knows where this can go

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

First of all...this one is for you, Bloom---love a guy that tosses one out there that is TOTALLY against the grain, and has the stones to stand up to his conviction

to you and all the FBGs.in all honesty, all Im doing here is reporting that enough people have said Boston is "back" enough times for me to take notice and see what the news is during the preseason. the should really be for the pewter report guys for giving us this scoop on the Audible weeks ago.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Boston is a classic case of a Steroids Monster. Guy coming out of college was lanky. Then a year later he was cut like a rock. I always suspected he was doping and unless he is doping again, I doubt he will do much.

Actually he had an excellent rookie season, and didn't bulk up until the following year. Doubt he was successful due to the doping, in fact I would think the doping made him less successful.

1999 Draft6' 3" 215 pounds

http://www.mvhs.sanjuan.k12.ut.us/htmls/CE...EH/dboston.html

2007 NFL.com

6'2" 228 pounds

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133230

Yes he got big, but he wasn't skinny in college.

He got up to 260 pounds when he was with the Chargers. He was still really fast, too, straight ahead. He just couldn't change direction, and he couldn't catch the ball very well.

 

[Tick]

Fool me 5 times, shame on me.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

"The David Boston I know is a guy who just dominated, period," said Bucs running back Michael Pittman, a former Cardinal teammate. "He was someone who made it look easy. I know what David can do when he's healthy, and right now, he looks healthy."

Boston, 28, likes his chances to stick this time around. He is another year removed from knee surgery and a four-game NFL suspension for steroid use that marred his disastrous stint with the Dolphins.

"He was one of the elite receivers in all of football a few years ago," Gruden said. "I don't even think anyone knows he's around. That's what I tell him every day - that people have forgotten about you."

It's difficult for a 6-foot-2, 230-pound target to disappear, but Boston has played only five games since 2003, when he caught 70 passes for the Chargers despite serving a one-game suspension for behavior Coach Marty Schottenheimer deemed unacceptable.

"David's driven, and he's doing things I've never seen him do," Pittman said. "He's on punt team as a gunner, he's on kickoff return as a receive guy. He was at all the OTA workouts and he's very serious about this. If a guy really wants to come back, he can get the job done. I know one thing … David Boston can make a big difference for this football team."

That's the most important part of the article. If he's down to 230, he could be an effective WR again.

 

[Tick]

This is EXACTLY why I am Bloom's biggest fan!!!!!I am amazed really at the doubt in this thread, all Siggy (thats what I like to call him) is saying is that if he's on the WW, he's worth putting on your roster.Thank you Mr. Bloom, I just acquired David Boston in 3 of my 4 dynasty leagues. Keep the good news coming....I'll keep you in mind when counting my Championship Checks.

This is a bit creepy.

 

[Block]

I always thought the nipple rings were his downfall. I hope he ditched 'em.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

This is EXACTLY why I am Bloom's biggest fan!!!!!I am amazed really at the doubt in this thread, all Siggy (thats what I like to call him) is saying is that if he's on the WW, he's worth putting on your roster.Thank you Mr. Bloom, I just acquired David Boston in 3 of my 4 dynasty leagues. Keep the good news coming....I'll keep you in mind when counting my Championship Checks.

This is a bit creepy.

I would be worried about a "cable guy" situation, except that I think I know who is perpetuating this nonsense...

 

[Andy Dufresne]

First of all...this one is for you, Bloom---love a guy that tosses one out there that is TOTALLY against the grain, and has the stones to stand up to his conviction

to you and all the FBGs.in all honesty, all Im doing here is reporting that enough people have said Boston is "back" enough times for me to take notice and see what the news is during the preseason. the should really be for the pewter report guys for giving us this scoop on the Audible weeks ago.

Are you sure they didn't say "Bostons GOT back?"

 

[The Man With No Name]

David Boston June 2002 Keep your eye on him; December 2002 BUSTJune 2003 Keep your eye on him; December 2003 BUSTJune 2004 Keep your eye on him; December 2004 BUSTJune 2005 Keep your eye on him; December 2005 BUSTJune 2006 Keep your eye on him; December 2006 BUSTJune 2007 Keep your eye on him;My eye is tired.

I didn't know that by finishing as WR 19 in 2003 that he was a BUST.

 

[CalBear]

First of all...this one is for you, Bloom---love a guy that tosses one out there that is TOTALLY against the grain, and has the stones to stand up to his conviction

How is it against the grain, considering that the same prediction has been made five years in a row now?

 

[Biabreakable]

Did Bostons head lose weight?

Pittman said he looked healthy right?

 

[Big Score]

First of all...this one is for you, Bloom---love a guy that tosses one out there that is TOTALLY against the grain, and has the stones to stand up to his conviction

How is it against the grain, considering that the same prediction has been made five years in a row now?

Point

 

[tommyGunZ]

Everyone who has been watching Boston in minicamp/OTA's raise your hand.I love the certainty that some are expressing in this thread - unless you have been at practices and can confirm from a first hand account that Boston really is done, I don't know why you would be so quick to write him off completely. It's not like this is a rumor, we are hearing this from multiple sources, including Jim Flynn, a Bucs insider from the Pewter Report.Flynn gave us three relevant points in the interview:1) Boston was released last year because he wasn't fully recovered from a knee injury.2) "Several" sources told him this offseason Boston is "back" and "playing like his former self". Flynn could not confirm or deny this because the practices held up to that point were not open to the media or public.3) The Bucs have actually changed their plans because of Boston's apparent resurgence. They were going to exclusively work Stovall out as Galloway's back up instead of "cross training" him at both starting WR positions, now they have gone back to working Stovall being cross trained, and Boston is the guy lining up exclusively behind Galloway.The investment necessary to add Boston is about as minimal as it gets in dynasty leagues. If we see in the first few weeks of camp that the hype about Boston is unfounded, you can drop him and get back the guy you dropped to pick him up, or someone equivalent. Maybe there's only a 1% chance that Boston will get back to something approaching his top form, but why assume that it's 0% when we have reports that it might be happening and when the cost is so minuscule?

I hang on to guys longer than most, but the problem this year is that we heard almost exactly the same stories from last year's camp and he ended up a non-factor AGAIN. Some of the Gruden quotes in particular could have literally been lifted from a 2006 camp interview.As for what it will cost, it's always about opportunity cost. If you have Boston, that's one less sleeper you like that you DON'T have. At this point, most people who gave him a shot last year would rather use that roster spot to pick up a guy who HASN'T had a shot (or several shots for that matter) yet.Honestly, having owned him in his heyday, it is VERY tempting to go get him. But I wonder if anyone who was hanging on to Boston because of upside last year missed out on a guy like Colston? It's conceivable I might have been one of those guys last year since I know I had Boston stashed in several leagues.

In leagues with unlimited rosters, it's a no brainer to grab him if he's still available. Without any more to go on than Mike Pittman's hype and the usual "great shape" rumors, I'll probably pass. Tempting, as HS mentions, but as someone who has rostered Boston extremely cheaply and considered him a "sleeper" for 3-4 years now, I'm tired of being burned.

 

[greyone]

First of all...this one is for you, Bloom---love a guy that tosses one out there that is TOTALLY against the grain, and has the stones to stand up to his conviction

How is it against the grain, considering that the same prediction has been made five years in a row now?

nobody else has really brought it up this offseason.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Without any more to go on than Mike Pittman's hype and the usual "great shape" rumors,

We also have the first hand report from the Pewter Report guys, and their statement that "several" sources told them Boston was "back" during the offseason.I'm still waiting to see Boston in preseason action before I take any hard stance on his future, but as I said before, there's enough smoke now to look for a fire.

 

[Ozymandias]

David Boston June 2002 Keep your eye on him; December 2002 BUSTJune 2003 Keep your eye on him; December 2003 BUSTJune 2004 Keep your eye on him; December 2004 BUSTJune 2005 Keep your eye on him; December 2005 BUSTJune 2006 Keep your eye on him; December 2006 BUSTJune 2007 Keep your eye on him;My eye is tired.

I didn't know that by finishing as WR 19 in 2003 that he was a BUST.

OK. I'll give him a nipple ring for his bust in 2003.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Without any more to go on than Mike Pittman's hype and the usual "great shape" rumors,

We also have the first hand report from the Pewter Report guys, and their statement that "several" sources told them Boston was "back" during the offseason.I'm still waiting to see Boston in preseason action before I make any hard stance on his future, but as I said before, there's enough smoke now to look for a fire.

I agree. Certainly worth keeping an eye out - and this thread for sure will enable me to beat my leaguemates to Boston if he continues to look good.Unfortunately, I'm biased because I saw Boston look superhuman during the offseasons here in Diego, and his being in great shape actually made him worse, productivity wise. Which is why Maurile's post is so accurate - a slimmed down Boston is great news for the Bucs.

 

[ravnzfan]

First of all...

this one is for you, Bloom---love a guy that tosses one out there that is TOTALLY against the grain, and has the stones to stand up to his conviction

How is it against the grain, considering that the same prediction has been made five years in a row now?

I'm not talking about the last 5 yrs...that's water under the bridgethe perception of Boston today is the same as it was for Galloway in '05---he's not worth the time of day

the same mentality is shared by 98% of the Shark Pool, which is fine---I had room on 2 rosters, so I picked him up...the rest of the rosters are pretty tight, so I didn't

for those that have been burned by the guy or the hype, I totally understand---DO NOT mention Ricky Williams w/in 1000 mi of me!---Joe's first rule in the VBD article way back when...

"don't love a guy, don't hate a guy"...just try to guage what kind of stats he can put up, and rank/draft accordingly

for me, Boston will be worth consideration in round 16 of that local redraft, just like Galloway was a couple years ago

 

[joffer]

unless someone knows for a fact that he's back on roids, i'll pass.

 

[CalBear]

for me, Boston will be worth consideration in round 16 of that local redraft, just like Galloway was a couple years ago

Galloway was a starting WR. Boston may not even be on the opening day roster.

 

[Colin Dowling]

As a guy who said Bosto nwould finish top-10 2 years ago, I eagerly await his return.

 

[Tick]

for those that have been burned by the guy or the hype, I totally understand---DO NOT mention Ricky Williams w/in 1000 mi of me!---Joe's first rule in the VBD article way back when...

Funny guy to mention... I've picked up Ricky twice since his first retirement, and made out very well when trading him away. I've also picked up Boston three times since he left San Diego and gotten nothing out of it.

 

[Capella]

Read all the same articles last year.

 

[Capella]

Everyone who has been watching Boston in minicamp/OTA's raise your hand.

I watched him a bunch last year in training camp and every pre-season snap. He looked like he had a fork in his back.Seriously, he may have recovered or bounced back, or whatever in the year since then, but I'm not counting on it. If it happens, terrific, but I think Stovall-Galloway are the two primary wideouts for the 5-11 Bucs this year.

 

[Buffalo0987]

He was so good for such a short time. Not sure he will ever return.

 

[Fantaholic]

Not for nothing, but isn't a comment about Boston from Pittman like Mark McGuire saying Bonds looks especially ripped this year???

 

[Capella]

More from The Pewter Report (June 19):

Boston has had some outstanding practices this offseason and dominated at times on Tuesday morning. Although he's not as fast as he was during his prime, Boston is back. He's getting good separation from defensive backs and making nice catches. Boston did, however, drop one pass during warm-ups.

Also, sounds like Boston is now cross-training:

It’s interesting to note that although the Bucs value Boston as a reliable backup behind WR Joey Galloway at the X (split end) spot, Boston has actually been cross-training a bit. He lined up as a Z opposite Galloway (X) on a few plays today. The Bucs like the idea of having both Galloway and Boston on the field at the same time. Those two are the Bucs’ fastest receivers.

I love the pewter report and certainly would not sit here and act like I have more inside info than those guys do...but while they are outstanding on compiling inside info on personnel moves and other front office type stuff, they lack (imo) on player evaluation. They become a bit too homerish and fair-weathered when it comes down to stuff like this. There's hardly a player on the roster they haven't overhyped.

 

[Loomba]

Thanks for the heads up Bloom. The fact that he was actually in the Bucs camp again this year after being cut had me wondering if just maybe he was getting healthy and doing something. We'll see. If he is truly healthy, then you never know. He's still young. I saw him play in the ProBowl back in his rookie season and he was the most dominant WR on the field. That was many years ago, but he was scary to watch then. He's not really anymore risky than the last WR on your bench right now. What the heck, you have nothing to lose. IF you are right, you are the genious fantasy GM of the year. If you are wrong, you cut him and pick up Ricky Williams or David Carr...

 

[BoulderBob]

He should have stayed away from Thomas Jones' locker back in the day.

 

[Iron_Far]

Not for nothing, but isn't a comment about Boston from Pittman like Mark McGuire saying Bonds looks especially ripped this year???

Thought everyone was aware of the Pittman-Thomas Jones-Boston connection here?(Alleged biggest dopers on the Cards).

 

[Finatic]

More from The Pewter Report (June 19):

Boston has had some outstanding practices this offseason and dominated at times on Tuesday morning. Although he's not as fast as he was during his prime, Boston is back. He's getting good separation from defensive backs and making nice catches. Boston did, however, drop one pass during warm-ups.

Also, sounds like Boston is now cross-training:

It’s interesting to note that although the Bucs value Boston as a reliable backup behind WR Joey Galloway at the X (split end) spot, Boston has actually been cross-training a bit. He lined up as a Z opposite Galloway (X) on a few plays today. The Bucs like the idea of having both Galloway and Boston on the field at the same time. Those two are the Bucs’ fastest receivers.

I love the pewter report and certainly would not sit here and act like I have more inside info than those guys do...but while they are outstanding on compiling inside info on personnel moves and other front office type stuff, they lack (imo) on player evaluation. They become a bit too homerish and fair-weathered when it comes down to stuff like this. There's hardly a player on the roster they haven't overhyped.[/

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[nygiants56]

I know what Eddie George can do when he's healthy, and right now, he looks healthy

 

[prymetyme25]

The thing with Boston is that he can stay healthy without steriods. Now the problem is that he is a workout warrior and power lifter. That makes it like a continuous circle. He went to high school out here in Humble, Tx and he was alway into to bodybuilding and loves the look. now if he uses steriods again well yeah his knee will heal but he works out like a mad man and will get big again and not be much of a wr, but if he doesnt use steriods he will never be healthy. I just dont think he can break this cycle.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. – The Tampa Bay Buccaneers figured they were doing David Boston a favor. Earlier this offseason, when he stepped out to run a 40-yard dash in gusting conditions, the team arranged the finish line downwind.Boston waved it off."He said, 'No, I want to run into it,' " recalled Bucs general manager Bruce Allen, shaking his head. "Now, I love every contrarian in the world, so I said, 'I love this guy already.' That sold me."That was before Boston – standing on two surgically repaired patella tendons – did something next to inconceivable … particularly for a guy standing on a pair of surgically repaired knees. At around 220 pounds and 80-percent health, he crossed the finish line into the wind and left Tampa Bay coaches blinking at their stopwatches. Running into estimated 15-mph gusts, Boston clocked a time of 4.52 seconds. Adjusted for the conditions, it was roughly a 4.4 flat."Nobody runs fast at the old One Buccaneer [practice] facility," chuckled head coach Jon Gruden. "The grass is six feet high. There are weeds and crab grass in there. It's a wet and soggy field, a bad track and 17 to 18 mile-an-hour winds. … Ask our players. David Boston covers grass in a hurry."Whether he can do it consistently on a football field is another question.Boston hasn't played the bulk of a season since 2003, when he caught 70 passes for the San Diego Chargers. And the real consensus is that he hasn't actually registered anything near his potential since his 1,598-yard season with the Arizona Cardinals in 2001 – which also may be the last time anyone can confidently say Boston was in the 230-pound range.Amazingly, Boston is getting back into that realm. After sporting a bodybuilder's physique and carrying 260 pounds in San Diego (and drawing suspicions that he was using performance-enhancing drugs), Boston arrived in Tampa this offseason looking more like a football player again. His weight might be some point of debate (he looks like he's in the high 220s or low 230s, not the 219 that has been reported in some places), but he's clearly regained the quickness and explosion that made him so potent in Arizona. Quietly, what he's done with the Buccaneers might be the best kept training camp secret up to this point.The resurgence and body transformation has been a surprise, particularly when so little was expected after Boston seemed to hit rock bottom during his two years with the Dolphins. He played only five games in Miami due to injuries and was suspended by the NFL for the final four games of 2005 for testing positive for a banned substance. With the two repaired tendons, and the feeling that Boston would never be able to regain the lithe form that made him dominant in Arizona, there were whispers late last season that his career was over at 27.Then Boston convinced the Buccaneers that he'd gotten his priorities straight."You know, he's still a young man," Allen said. "He has finally focused his life in the right direction, and right now, he's proving that football is important to him. I've been on the other side of the field when he had his 'A' game with the Cardinals. Right now, he's on his 'A' game, and that's very good news for us.""This is important to him, making this comeback," Gruden said. "I'll tell you what, when he is on, he is on, man. He is a great football player. If we can get him to come in here and do some of the things he has done out there [in practice], we will definitely try to push the rock."As it stands, Boston is fighting for the third wide receiver slot with Ike Hilliard, but the Bucs seem to be itching to get him on the field with Michael Clayton and Joey Galloway – a trio that could present serious matchup problems because of the diversity of strength and speed. Boston has arguably been the most impressive wideout in camp, consistently making plays deep against both single and double coverage."It's unreal, isn't it?" marveled quarterback Chris Simms. "His work ethic is crazy. That's why he looks the way he does and can do those things as an athlete. It's exciting. He's a guy that will stretch defenses for us."

Quick, somebody tell me the date on this article. I'll give you a hint: he was cut from the team shortly after this article was released.

 

[az_prof]

for me, Boston will be worth consideration in round 16 of that local redraft, just like Galloway was a couple years ago

Galloway was a starting WR. Boston may not even be on the opening day roster.

This is a good point for those who make this comparison. Also, Galloway's production declined when he left Seattle and went to Dallas because the Dallas offense in those years did not utilize him properly. It wasn't like his body declined or his skills declined the way Boston's have. And so when he got traded to an offense that was more suited to him, he performed well again. Boston has been in Tampa before. His problems are not being on the wrong team.He could be this year's turn around wonder, but there are a couple of other WRs in Tampa that I think are more likely to emerge.

 

[Steelers4Life]

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. – The Tampa Bay Buccaneers figured they were doing David Boston a favor. Earlier this offseason, when he stepped out to run a 40-yard dash in gusting conditions, the team arranged the finish line downwind.Boston waved it off."He said, 'No, I want to run into it,' " recalled Bucs general manager Bruce Allen, shaking his head. "Now, I love every contrarian in the world, so I said, 'I love this guy already.' That sold me."That was before Boston – standing on two surgically repaired patella tendons – did something next to inconceivable … particularly for a guy standing on a pair of surgically repaired knees. At around 220 pounds and 80-percent health, he crossed the finish line into the wind and left Tampa Bay coaches blinking at their stopwatches. Running into estimated 15-mph gusts, Boston clocked a time of 4.52 seconds. Adjusted for the conditions, it was roughly a 4.4 flat."Nobody runs fast at the old One Buccaneer [practice] facility," chuckled head coach Jon Gruden. "The grass is six feet high. There are weeds and crab grass in there. It's a wet and soggy field, a bad track and 17 to 18 mile-an-hour winds. … Ask our players. David Boston covers grass in a hurry."Whether he can do it consistently on a football field is another question.Boston hasn't played the bulk of a season since 2003, when he caught 70 passes for the San Diego Chargers. And the real consensus is that he hasn't actually registered anything near his potential since his 1,598-yard season with the Arizona Cardinals in 2001 – which also may be the last time anyone can confidently say Boston was in the 230-pound range.Amazingly, Boston is getting back into that realm. After sporting a bodybuilder's physique and carrying 260 pounds in San Diego (and drawing suspicions that he was using performance-enhancing drugs), Boston arrived in Tampa this offseason looking more like a football player again. His weight might be some point of debate (he looks like he's in the high 220s or low 230s, not the 219 that has been reported in some places), but he's clearly regained the quickness and explosion that made him so potent in Arizona. Quietly, what he's done with the Buccaneers might be the best kept training camp secret up to this point.The resurgence and body transformation has been a surprise, particularly when so little was expected after Boston seemed to hit rock bottom during his two years with the Dolphins. He played only five games in Miami due to injuries and was suspended by the NFL for the final four games of 2005 for testing positive for a banned substance. With the two repaired tendons, and the feeling that Boston would never be able to regain the lithe form that made him dominant in Arizona, there were whispers late last season that his career was over at 27.Then Boston convinced the Buccaneers that he'd gotten his priorities straight."You know, he's still a young man," Allen said. "He has finally focused his life in the right direction, and right now, he's proving that football is important to him. I've been on the other side of the field when he had his 'A' game with the Cardinals. Right now, he's on his 'A' game, and that's very good news for us.""This is important to him, making this comeback," Gruden said. "I'll tell you what, when he is on, he is on, man. He is a great football player. If we can get him to come in here and do some of the things he has done out there [in practice], we will definitely try to push the rock."As it stands, Boston is fighting for the third wide receiver slot with Ike Hilliard, but the Bucs seem to be itching to get him on the field with Michael Clayton and Joey Galloway – a trio that could present serious matchup problems because of the diversity of strength and speed. Boston has arguably been the most impressive wideout in camp, consistently making plays deep against both single and double coverage."It's unreal, isn't it?" marveled quarterback Chris Simms. "His work ethic is crazy. That's why he looks the way he does and can do those things as an athlete. It's exciting. He's a guy that will stretch defenses for us."

Quick, somebody tell me the date on this article. I'll give you a hint: he was cut from the team shortly after this article was released.

His straight line speed wasn't really a question last year, but his cuts and explosiveness out of them were issues. If he wasn't fully recovered from the knee surgeries last year but is this year, it would make a world of difference.The guy's got almost zero risk for where he's going to be drafted or how you can acquire him, and he's got a huge upside if he gets his legs back under him. I don't understand why anyone would completely write a guy like that off considering other guys on rosters in deep leagues.I just recently dropped Jake Plummer to pick him up in a 14 team, 20 man roster dynasty league. I've got Brady, Delhomme, and Carr, and there's nothing left on waivers worth a damn, and there are plenty of guys on other rosters with just as marginal chances to make an impact but who lack the same upside. I understand people have been waiting for him and have been burned, but he's worth a roster spot in a deep league on just the chance he has another good year in him.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

Enough with the ZERO risk already guys. The risk is the opportunity cost.

I get what you are saying, that he's worth more due to his "upside" (assuming he beats the likes of Paris Warren out for a roster spot like he DIDN'T do last year), than a lot of the scrubs hanging around at the end of your bench.

If that's your take and you don't have anybody else in mind, cool - stash him. But MY take (and a lot of others') is that the very REAL cost of having him on your roster is NOT picking up some other promising guy. Say a Stovall for example on the very same team. It all depends on roster size I suppose. In a league with absolutely HUGE rosters where all of the other sleepers I like are already rostered, I'd grab him too. But in most of the leagues I'm in, ANY roster spot has some decent inherent VALUE and I will probably use that spot on someone else. Again, at risk of sounding like a broken record, Colston was the kind of guy who might not have been picked up because a team was hanging on to Boston last year. This year, I will likely find other sleepers who I feel have a better chance to do something than Boston.

But back to discussing the actual merits of using that last spot on Boston. Aside from all of the same hype last year someone was trying to com up with an example of a guy with a similar history has went on to become successful. People were coming with Galloway etc. But Boston has not done really ANYTHING for three full years (4 catches in '05 but none in '04 and out of the league in '06). Has ANYONE EVER been a complete non-factor for that long and then produced anything like some folks are viewing as his "upside". I can't think of a one. I can think of a couple of guys who have gone a year without doing anything, but not too many. I can't think of any who have gone two full years, let alone three.

I don't think it's impossible that Boston makes the team this year. I think it's reasonably likely. But every "step" after that (playing significant minutes, starting, being a good NFL receiver, and then finally becoming a startable fantasy receiver), is increasingly more unlikely in my mind.

So if you dig Boston and think this is the year the hype is based in reality, I'm all for you guys touting him and grabbing him for your team. But please don't tell me there is no risk. There is always risk.

 

[wolfie]

Just not buying into Boston. His time has come and gone. If he some how is healthy again, I won't lose any sleep, because I wrote him off.

 

[LBH]

I think Stovall is the WR to keep an eye on in Tampa. Hes already getting a lot of first team reps

 

[John Mamula]

Ron Dayne and David Boston are two guys I am constantly amazed that there are people here (including staff) consistantly talk up every year.

These guys must have good PR people at least.

 

[John Mamula]

Enough with the ZERO risk already guys. The risk is the opportunity cost.I get what you are saying, that he's worth more due to his "upside" (assuming he beats the likes of Paris Warren out for a roster spot like he DIDN'T do last year), than a lot of the scrubs hanging around at the end of your bench.If that's your take and you don't have anybody else in mind, cool - stash him. But MY take (and a lot of others') is that the very REAL cost of having him on your roster is NOT picking up some other promising guy. Say a Stovall for example on the very same team. It all depends on roster size I suppose. In a league with absolutely HUGE rosters where all of the other sleepers I like are already rostered, I'd grab him too. But in most of the leagues I'm in, ANY roster spot has some decent inherent VALUE and I will probably use that spot on someone else. Again, at risk of sounding like a broken record, Colston was the kind of guy who might not have been picked up because a team was hanging on to Boston last year. This year, I will likely find other sleepers who I feel have a better chance to do something than Boston.But back to discussing the actual merits of using that last spot on Boston. Aside from all of the same hype last year someone was trying to com up with an example of a guy with a similar history has went on to become successful. People were coming with Galloway etc. But Boston has not done really ANYTHING for three full years (4 catches in '05 but none in '04 and out of the league in '06). Has ANYONE EVER been a complete non-factor for that long and then produced anything like some folks are viewing as his "upside". I can't think of a one. I can think of a couple of guys who have gone a year without doing anything, but not too many. I can't think of any who have gone two full years, let alone three.I don't think it's impossible that Boston makes the team this year. I think it's reasonably likely. But every "step" after that (playing significant minutes, starting, being a good NFL receiver, and then finally becoming a startable fantasy receiver), is increasingly more unlikely in my mind.So if you dig Boston and think this is the year the hype is based in reality, I'm all for you guys touting him and grabbing him for your team. But please don't tell me there is no risk. There is always risk.

 

[lions327]

Enough with the ZERO risk already guys. The risk is the opportunity cost.I get what you are saying, that he's worth more due to his "upside" (assuming he beats the likes of Paris Warren out for a roster spot like he DIDN'T do last year), than a lot of the scrubs hanging around at the end of your bench.If that's your take and you don't have anybody else in mind, cool - stash him. But MY take (and a lot of others') is that the very REAL cost of having him on your roster is NOT picking up some other promising guy. Say a Stovall for example on the very same team. It all depends on roster size I suppose. In a league with absolutely HUGE rosters where all of the other sleepers I like are already rostered, I'd grab him too. But in most of the leagues I'm in, ANY roster spot has some decent inherent VALUE and I will probably use that spot on someone else. Again, at risk of sounding like a broken record, Colston was the kind of guy who might not have been picked up because a team was hanging on to Boston last year. This year, I will likely find other sleepers who I feel have a better chance to do something than Boston.But back to discussing the actual merits of using that last spot on Boston. Aside from all of the same hype last year someone was trying to com up with an example of a guy with a similar history has went on to become successful. People were coming with Galloway etc. But Boston has not done really ANYTHING for three full years (4 catches in '05 but none in '04 and out of the league in '06). Has ANYONE EVER been a complete non-factor for that long and then produced anything like some folks are viewing as his "upside". I can't think of a one. I can think of a couple of guys who have gone a year without doing anything, but not too many. I can't think of any who have gone two full years, let alone three.I don't think it's impossible that Boston makes the team this year. I think it's reasonably likely. But every "step" after that (playing significant minutes, starting, being a good NFL receiver, and then finally becoming a startable fantasy receiver), is increasingly more unlikely in my mind.So if you dig Boston and think this is the year the hype is based in reality, I'm all for you guys touting him and grabbing him for your team. But please don't tell me there is no risk. There is always risk.

Yes, there is always risk associated with a move like this...or any roster move for that matter. But there is also a possible reward.

 

[John Mamula]

But there is also a possible reward.

it probably is rewarding for you to cut boston after week 2.

 

[Ozymandias]

But there is also a possible reward.

it probably is rewarding for you to cut boston after week 2.

Why wait that long into the season?

 

[faulkfan]

I seriously thought someone had bumped this from last season at first.

No kidding. He was looking good and moving well and blah blah blah right up to the day they cut him and nobody else picked him up.We need a :fork: smilie.

Boston was on every waiver wire in my dynasty leagues, dropping your backup Defense for him is about as low risk as you can get.

Not when your back up defense is New England

If you have NE as your backup defense then you are either in a league that gives inflated points for defenses or a guppy who thinks some other owner will salivate at your depth at "D" and offer you LT for them when their own "D" is on a bye.Regardless you aren't thinking of deep WRs and probably don't know who David Boston is anyway.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

First of all...this one is for you, Bloom---love a guy that tosses one out there that is TOTALLY against the grain, and has the stones to stand up to his conviction

to you and all the FBGs.in all honesty, all Im doing here is reporting that enough people have said Boston is "back" enough times for me to take notice and see what the news is during the preseason. the should really be for the pewter report guys for giving us this scoop on the Audible weeks ago.

Good answer here by Bloom.Often people in the Shark Pool confuse it when one of us point out some information as that we are "backing" a player. Pointing out news about a guy that many might have off of their radar is what we do here - at least many of us.Sometimes I'll hitch a bandwagon to a guy, but more often than not I'm just relaying info I hear, read or see.In this particular example, I don't think Bloom is advocating rushing out to go grab Boston, but if you are in a deep Dynasty league or you have room for a flier and are having troubles finding a veteran worth selecting, here's an option with Boston.Nice work here Bloom.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

More from The Pewter Report (June 19):

Boston has had some outstanding practices this offseason and dominated at times on Tuesday morning. Although he's not as fast as he was during his prime, Boston is back. He's getting good separation from defensive backs and making nice catches. Boston did, however, drop one pass during warm-ups.

Also, sounds like Boston is now cross-training:

It’s interesting to note that although the Bucs value Boston as a reliable backup behind WR Joey Galloway at the X (split end) spot, Boston has actually been cross-training a bit. He lined up as a Z opposite Galloway (X) on a few plays today. The Bucs like the idea of having both Galloway and Boston on the field at the same time. Those two are the Bucs’ fastest receivers.

I love the pewter report and certainly would not sit here and act like I have more inside info than those guys do...but while they are outstanding on compiling inside info on personnel moves and other front office type stuff, they lack (imo) on player evaluation. They become a bit too homerish and fair-weathered when it comes down to stuff like this. There's hardly a player on the roster they haven't overhyped.[/

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This is good to know. Thanks.