C. Portis knee problems (1 Viewer)

[Sweetness_34]

Portis owner in 3 leagues..... The not practicing does have me a bit concerned, but CP is his own man and does whatever he wants to do. If he feels he doesn't need practice (allen iverson style) then CP doesn't need practice.

The elite talents call their own shots.

That smells like rationalization to me. The guy barely played last season. Regardless of how talented he is (and I agree Portis when healthy is an elite talent) I have to believe the Redskins would want to get him on the practice field if he was healthy. The fact he's missed so much practice time leads me to think he isn't healthy and the team is hoping that by resting him he will be healthy when the season begins. Maybe that happens but that's a huge risk to take if you're considering drafting Portis.

Isn't tendonitis an over-use injury? Why wouldn't he be resting it and only doing conditioning drills to stay in shape? How else would you treat an over-use injury?

Also, for a guy that barely played, he still scored 7 times. That is 3 more TDs than Betts and only 2 less than Betts has scored in his career.

My thoughts exactly. If I have tendonititis (inflammation of the tendon, I believe), I would do everything I could to let the inflammation settle down before I tried to stir it up again with cuts and hitting. When I had inflammation in my back, I walked a lot, but didn't run for a long time for this same reason. When I did start to run, I had no issues. Had I started running earlier, I might have re-aggravated the injury, exacerbating the inflammation. But I'm not an MD...

If I were Portis, I wouldn't cut until I absolutely had to. He may have no idea of how he will feel when he does cut, but I hope he doesn't start cutting or hitting until a few days before game 1.

I think your willingness to take him depends on your willingness to win big or lose big. Taking Portis as your RB2 will either lead you to the championship or make you miss the playoffs. If you want to "play it safe" and end up in the middle of your league, take Edge instead. Rudi, Edge, Cadillac will be a very safe trio of RBs that will not win you a championship, IMHO. Gore, Portis and Norwood might kill you, but could lead you to the promised land.

Bingo....that is exactly my way of thinking....if I was lucky to get LT, sure I would pass on Portis, but if I am getting the 8th spot in the draft like I did last night, I am going for the jugular.I got Westbrook + Portis in a PPR league and I know I can compete any given week with that duo....even against the guy who has LT+ Benson

 

[curta269]

Portis owner in 3 leagues..... The not practicing does have me a bit concerned, but CP is his own man and does whatever he wants to do. If he feels he doesn't need practice (allen iverson style) then CP doesn't need practice.

The elite talents call their own shots.

That smells like rationalization to me. The guy barely played last season. Regardless of how talented he is (and I agree Portis when healthy is an elite talent) I have to believe the Redskins would want to get him on the practice field if he was healthy. The fact he's missed so much practice time leads me to think he isn't healthy and the team is hoping that by resting him he will be healthy when the season begins. Maybe that happens but that's a huge risk to take if you're considering drafting Portis.

Isn't tendonitis an over-use injury? Why wouldn't he be resting it and only doing conditioning drills to stay in shape? How else would you treat an over-use injury?

Also, for a guy that barely played, he still scored 7 times. That is 3 more TDs than Betts and only 2 less than Betts has scored in his career.

My thoughts exactly. If I have tendonititis (inflammation of the tendon, I believe), I would do everything I could to let the inflammation settle down before I tried to stir it up again with cuts and hitting. When I had inflammation in my back, I walked a lot, but didn't run for a long time for this same reason. When I did start to run, I had no issues. Had I started running earlier, I might have re-aggravated the injury, exacerbating the inflammation. But I'm not an MD...

If I were Portis, I wouldn't cut until I absolutely had to. He may have no idea of how he will feel when he does cut, but I hope he doesn't start cutting or hitting until a few days before game 1.

I think your willingness to take him depends on your willingness to win big or lose big. Taking Portis as your RB2 will either lead you to the championship or make you miss the playoffs. If you want to "play it safe" and end up in the middle of your league, take Edge instead. Rudi, Edge, Cadillac will be a very safe trio of RBs that will not win you a championship, IMHO. Gore, Portis and Norwood might kill you, but could lead you to the promised land.

Bingo....that is exactly my way of thinking....if I was lucky to get LT, sure I would pass on Portis, but if I am getting the 8th spot in the draft like I did last night, I am going for the jugular.I got Westbrook + Portis in a PPR league and I know I can compete any given week with that duo....even against the guy who has LT+ Benson

What other RBs did you draft? Did you handcuff and take Betts?

 

[mad sweeney]

Only if you also drafted Betts, Portis has D. Davis written all over him.

I don't know for sure if Portis is healthy or not, but his knee has nothing in common with the problem that DD had.

Has it been a year already, Beer?

 

[Skinsfansince72]

Portis owner in 3 leagues..... The not practicing does have me a bit concerned, but CP is his own man and does whatever he wants to do. If he feels he doesn't need practice (allen iverson style) then CP doesn't need practice.The elite talents call their own shots.

That smells like rationalization to me. The guy barely played last season. Regardless of how talented he is (and I agree Portis when healthy is an elite talent) I have to believe the Redskins would want to get him on the practice field if he was healthy. The fact he's missed so much practice time leads me to think he isn't healthy and the team is hoping that by resting him he will be healthy when the season begins. Maybe that happens but that's a huge risk to take if you're considering drafting Portis.

Looks to me like he played half a season and put up 7 tds. Does half = "barely"?

 

[Righetti]

Not groundbreaking news but

Linebackers Khary Campbell and H.B. Blades will fill in for injured linebacker Marcus Washington (elbow) tomorrow. . . . Tailback Clinton Portis (knee) and tackle Chris Samuels (knee) are out, with tackle/guard Todd Wade (shoulder) questionable. . . . Rookie tight end Tyler Ecker and running back Dee Brown were released.

 

[Righetti]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

I can't wait for the first play from scrimage this year when Portis runs in a strait line to the house for 80 yards.

 

[Sweetness_34]

Portis owner in 3 leagues..... The not practicing does have me a bit concerned, but CP is his own man and does whatever he wants to do. If he feels he doesn't need practice (allen iverson style) then CP doesn't need practice.

The elite talents call their own shots.

That smells like rationalization to me. The guy barely played last season. Regardless of how talented he is (and I agree Portis when healthy is an elite talent) I have to believe the Redskins would want to get him on the practice field if he was healthy. The fact he's missed so much practice time leads me to think he isn't healthy and the team is hoping that by resting him he will be healthy when the season begins. Maybe that happens but that's a huge risk to take if you're considering drafting Portis.

Isn't tendonitis an over-use injury? Why wouldn't he be resting it and only doing conditioning drills to stay in shape? How else would you treat an over-use injury?

Also, for a guy that barely played, he still scored 7 times. That is 3 more TDs than Betts and only 2 less than Betts has scored in his career.

My thoughts exactly. If I have tendonititis (inflammation of the tendon, I believe), I would do everything I could to let the inflammation settle down before I tried to stir it up again with cuts and hitting. When I had inflammation in my back, I walked a lot, but didn't run for a long time for this same reason. When I did start to run, I had no issues. Had I started running earlier, I might have re-aggravated the injury, exacerbating the inflammation. But I'm not an MD...

If I were Portis, I wouldn't cut until I absolutely had to. He may have no idea of how he will feel when he does cut, but I hope he doesn't start cutting or hitting until a few days before game 1.

I think your willingness to take him depends on your willingness to win big or lose big. Taking Portis as your RB2 will either lead you to the championship or make you miss the playoffs. If you want to "play it safe" and end up in the middle of your league, take Edge instead. Rudi, Edge, Cadillac will be a very safe trio of RBs that will not win you a championship, IMHO. Gore, Portis and Norwood might kill you, but could lead you to the promised land.

Bingo....that is exactly my way of thinking....if I was lucky to get LT, sure I would pass on Portis, but if I am getting the 8th spot in the draft like I did last night, I am going for the jugular.I got Westbrook + Portis in a PPR league and I know I can compete any given week with that duo....even against the guy who has LT+ Benson

What other RBs did you draft? Did you handcuff and take Betts?

No....I got DeAngelo Williams, Kevin Jones & Anthony Thomas (This is a PPR league so KJ is value when he comes back, even if it is after 5 games)

 

[Spiderman]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

Doesn't sound very promising for Portis.

 

[Apollo]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

Doesn't sound very promising for Portis.

Well in all fairness, running in a straight line is the most efficient way to the endzone.

 

[hellz_fireflies]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

Doesn't sound very promising for Portis.

Thats why Betts is being picked in the 6th round.

 

[Spiderman]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

Doesn't sound very promising for Portis.

Well in all fairness, running in a straight line is the most efficient way to the endzone.

That is the shortest path to the endzone, but I'm thinking he may have to juke his way here and there.

 

[Traders2001]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

I can't wait for the first play from scrimage this year when Portis runs in a strait line to the house for 80 yards.

And on the second play he makes a cut and is finished for the year , Portis is finished .

 

[Sabertooth]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

Doesn't sound very promising for Portis.

How far does this move Betts up?

 

[ImTheScientist]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

Doesn't sound very promising for Portis.

How far does this move Betts up?

Doesn't....Portis is fine.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

Doesn't sound very promising for Portis.

How far does this move Betts up?

Wow, such a wealth of info here!!

 

[CrossEyed]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

Doesn't sound very promising for Portis.

How far does this move Betts up?

I'd take him right after LT.

 

[Spiderman]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

Doesn't sound very promising for Portis.

How far does this move Betts up?

Doesn't....Portis is fine.

What makes you confident in a player who can't seem to stay healthy, and appears to have injury issues entering the season ?

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

Portis is my keeper in my money league. I'm forfeiting my first round pick in order to keep him (1.03).

 

[ELI2TYREE]

Portis is my keeper in my money league. I'm forfeiting my first round pick in order to keep him (1.03).

that is nuts. I'd cut him in a heartbeat.

 

[bigfoamfinger]

Portis is my keeper in my money league. I'm forfeiting my first round pick in order to keep him (1.03).

Your joking right?

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Portis is my keeper in my money league. I'm forfeiting my first round pick in order to keep him (1.03).

Your joking right?

His joking right what?

 

[tribecalledjeff]

Portis is my keeper in my money league. I'm forfeiting my first round pick in order to keep him (1.03).

Your joking right?

His joking right what?

His joking right.

 

[CrossEyed]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

Doesn't sound very promising for Portis.

How far does this move Betts up?

Doesn't....Portis is fine.

What makes you confident in a player who can't seem to stay healthy, and appears to have injury issues entering the season ?

Before last year Portis had missed 4 games in 4 years. I'm not ready to slap the "can't seem to stay healthy" tag on him just yet.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Portis is my keeper in my money league. I'm forfeiting my first round pick in order to keep him (1.03).

 

[ELI2TYREE]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

Doesn't sound very promising for Portis.

How far does this move Betts up?

Doesn't....Portis is fine.

What makes you confident in a player who can't seem to stay healthy, and appears to have injury issues entering the season ?

Before last year Portis had missed 4 games in 4 years. I'm not ready to slap the "can't seem to stay healthy" tag on him just yet.

his injury is of the chronic type, and isn't something that will heal and go away forever. You will always be waiting to see if he is going to play week in and week out. who wants that?dump him and move on.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Portis is my keeper in my money league. I'm forfeiting my first round pick in order to keep him (1.03).

Applauding stupidity now, are we?

 

[CrossEyed]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

Doesn't sound very promising for Portis.

How far does this move Betts up?

Doesn't....Portis is fine.

What makes you confident in a player who can't seem to stay healthy, and appears to have injury issues entering the season ?

Before last year Portis had missed 4 games in 4 years. I'm not ready to slap the "can't seem to stay healthy" tag on him just yet.

his injury is of the chronic type, and isn't something that will heal and go away forever. You will always be waiting to see if he is going to play week in and week out. who wants that?dump him and move on.

Are you talking about his knee? Do you even understand what tendinitis is?

 

[Big Score]

Portis is my keeper in my money league. I'm forfeiting my first round pick in order to keep him (1.03).

Applauding stupidity now, are we?

Can't really say it was a stupid move without knowing more about his league.For example, if it's a 14 team 3 or 4 player keeper, what pick it cost him becomes irrelevant. Keeping Portis in that situation, was the right move.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Portis is my keeper in my money league. I'm forfeiting my first round pick in order to keep him (1.03).

Applauding stupidity now, are we?

Can't really say it was a stupid move without knowing more about his league.For example, if it's a 14 team 3 or 4 player keeper, what pick it cost him becomes irrelevant. Keeping Portis in that situation, was the right move.

True. I/we have no idea what is out there after accounting for keepers. So, what is available? 1.03 just sounded good, but without the rules/keepers we don't know.

 

[ELI2TYREE]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

Doesn't sound very promising for Portis.

How far does this move Betts up?

Doesn't....Portis is fine.

What makes you confident in a player who can't seem to stay healthy, and appears to have injury issues entering the season ?

Before last year Portis had missed 4 games in 4 years. I'm not ready to slap the "can't seem to stay healthy" tag on him just yet.

his injury is of the chronic type, and isn't something that will heal and go away forever. You will always be waiting to see if he is going to play week in and week out. who wants that?dump him and move on.

Are you talking about his knee? Do you even understand what tendinitis is?

yes, my dad is an orthopedic surgeon. thanks for asking though.

 

[mad sweeney]

Portis is my keeper in my money league. I'm forfeiting my first round pick in order to keep him (1.03).

Your joking right?

Depends on who is available (not kept by other teams) still. If the top 10-12 RBs are off the board it isn't questionable at all.

 

[L-pipe]

I'm treating Portis just like Dominic Davis, er, Williams, or what ever name he is this year. Like he's got leprosy.

 

[bigfoamfinger]

Portis is my keeper in my money league. I'm forfeiting my first round pick in order to keep him (1.03).

Your joking right?

Depends on who is available (not kept by other teams) still. If the top 10-12 RBs are off the board it isn't questionable at all.

That is true, but I guess I assumed that based on him keeping Portis at 1.3, the other 10-12 backs would be available. But as you said, we don't really know.

 

[daanswr4]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

Doesn't sound very promising for Portis.

How far does this move Betts up?

Doesn't....Portis is fine.

What makes you confident in a player who can't seem to stay healthy, and appears to have injury issues entering the season ?

Before last year Portis had missed 4 games in 4 years. I'm not ready to slap the "can't seem to stay healthy" tag on him just yet.

his injury is of the chronic type, and isn't something that will heal and go away forever. You will always be waiting to see if he is going to play week in and week out. who wants that?dump him and move on.

Are you talking about his knee? Do you even understand what tendinitis is?

seriously. people are acting as if he has some sort of degenerative knee condition. the guy has tendonitis. it isn't that bad. with all the state-of-the-art crap they have in that training room, he'll be able to play the season fine.

 

[ELI2TYREE]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

Doesn't sound very promising for Portis.

How far does this move Betts up?

Doesn't....Portis is fine.

What makes you confident in a player who can't seem to stay healthy, and appears to have injury issues entering the season ?

Before last year Portis had missed 4 games in 4 years. I'm not ready to slap the "can't seem to stay healthy" tag on him just yet.

his injury is of the chronic type, and isn't something that will heal and go away forever. You will always be waiting to see if he is going to play week in and week out. who wants that?dump him and move on.

Are you talking about his knee? Do you even understand what tendinitis is?

seriously. people are acting as if he has some sort of degenerative knee condition. the guy has tendonitis. it isn't that bad. with all the state-of-the-art crap they have in that training room, he'll be able to play the season fine.

i assume you mean the weekly cortisone shot so he can't even feel his knee. sorry, not worth the risk.

 

[nygiants56]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

I can't wait for the first play from scrimage this year when Portis runs in a strait line to the house for 80 yards.

you mean in Madden '08, right? yeah, he's pretty fast in that game.

 

[nygiants56]

Redskins Injury Update

Washington Post - [Full Article]

Washington Redskins QB Jason Campbell (knee) remains doubtful for Saturday's game. "Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week. HC Joe Gibbs said he has not made a decision as to whether Mark Brunell or Todd Collins would replace Campbell. RB Clinton Portis (knee tendinitis) did more rigorous work yesterday but is still only running in a straight line. OT Chris Samuels (knee) is still doing individual work only with the athletic trainers, but is said to be progressing. Injured OG Todd Wade (shoulder) was limited to mostly individual drills at practice, with Mike Pucillo remaining with the starters.

Doesn't sound very promising for Portis.

How far does this move Betts up?

Doesn't....Portis is fine.

What makes you confident in a player who can't seem to stay healthy, and appears to have injury issues entering the season ?

Before last year Portis had missed 4 games in 4 years. I'm not ready to slap the "can't seem to stay healthy" tag on him just yet.

his injury is of the chronic type, and isn't something that will heal and go away forever. You will always be waiting to see if he is going to play week in and week out. who wants that?dump him and move on.

Are you talking about his knee? Do you even understand what tendinitis is?

seriously. people are acting as if he has some sort of degenerative knee condition. the guy has tendonitis. it isn't that bad. with all the state-of-the-art crap they have in that training room, he'll be able to play the season fine.

I dunno, he can only run in a straight line, correct? unless he drinks some magic healing potion, he's not going to be able to cut and dash left and right for a number of weeks now.and, if he does too soon, he'll blow that knee out.and, his biggest problem was/is his surgically repaired shoulder, NOT his knee..he hasn't even taken a hit on that shoulder.

red flags are up...this guy is not going to play much in 2007..I'm beginning to think he's headed for IR by week 2 or 3..

Betts is the money play..

BTW - state-of-the art has gotten him to the point where he can run in a straight line. 6 weeks of training camp,and all the guy can do is run in a straight line?

at this rate, he'll be able to cut left/right by December..

 

[Irish]

Portis is my keeper in my money league. I'm forfeiting my first round pick in order to keep him (1.03).

Applauding stupidity now, are we?

Can't really say it was a stupid move without knowing more about his league.For example, if it's a 14 team 3 or 4 player keeper, what pick it cost him becomes irrelevant. Keeping Portis in that situation, was the right move.

True. I/we have no idea what is out there after accounting for keepers. So, what is available? 1.03 just sounded good, but without the rules/keepers we don't know.

If you don't know then why the stupidity remark? Stupidity is making conclusions without knowing all the facts.

 

[ImTheScientist]

BTW - state-of-the art has gotten him to the point where he can run in a straight line. 6 weeks of training camp,and all the guy can do is run in a straight line?at this rate, he'll be able to cut left/right by December..

So he should be cutting hard for no reason in practice...during the preseason They said two weeks ago that if it was a regular season game Portis would play. So many of you people who are looking to far into this are going to look

 

[ImTheScientist]

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

I dunno, he can only run in a straight line, correct? unless he drinks some magic healing potion, he's not going to be able to cut and dash left and right for a number of weeks now.and, if he does too soon, he'll blow that knee out.and, his biggest problem was/is his surgically repaired shoulder, NOT his knee..he hasn't even taken a hit on that shoulder.red flags are up...this guy is not going to play much in 2007..I'm beginning to think he's headed for IR by week 2 or 3..Betts is the money play.. BTW - state-of-the art has gotten him to the point where he can run in a straight line. 6 weeks of training camp,and all the guy can do is run in a straight line?at this rate, he'll be able to cut left/right by December..

I'm never sure if you are being sarcastic or are being serious, NYGiants... you seem to see things in 100% black or 100% white terms, and use over the top observations to back up your opinions. Like when you took Portis' tongue-in-cheek estimate of his return by week one literally... his intent was clear, but you used it as evidence that Portis might not be ready for the regular season.I'm honestly not sure if you believe what you say or if you are trying to push Portis' value down so you can draft him for maximum value.Portis played with his bum shoulder for 7 full games, garnering 660 yards and 7 TDs. A broken hand kept him out of the final 8 1/2 games. The December shoulder surgery is something to take into consideration (Gore had surgery on both shoulders in Feb or March of '06 and he did okay.... Drew Brees did pretty well after his shoulder surgery.... Zach Thomas is another shoulder surgery success story), but it's not like he had a complete reconstruction. One would think it reasonable to say that his shoulder is better now than when he played 7 1/2 games with it being injured. There is uncertainty surrounding Portis this year... but tendonitis is not a torn ACL, a December shoulder surgery does not have a 9 month recovery time, Portis did not lose his ability, and Betts is not a stud. Anybody sticking a fork in him is nutty. Don't draft him if you are risk averse, but it may cost you.

 

[CrossEyed]

What makes you confident in a player who can't seem to stay healthy, and appears to have injury issues entering the season ?

Before last year Portis had missed 4 games in 4 years. I'm not ready to slap the "can't seem to stay healthy" tag on him just yet.

his injury is of the chronic type, and isn't something that will heal and go away forever. You will always be waiting to see if he is going to play week in and week out. who wants that?dump him and move on.

Are you talking about his knee? Do you even understand what tendinitis is?

seriously. people are acting as if he has some sort of degenerative knee condition. the guy has tendonitis. it isn't that bad. with all the state-of-the-art crap they have in that training room, he'll be able to play the season fine.

I dunno, he can only run in a straight line, correct? unless he drinks some magic healing potion, he's not going to be able to cut and dash left and right for a number of weeks now.and, if he does too soon, he'll blow that knee out.and, his biggest problem was/is his surgically repaired shoulder, NOT his knee..he hasn't even taken a hit on that shoulder.red flags are up...this guy is not going to play much in 2007..I'm beginning to think he's headed for IR by week 2 or 3..Betts is the money play.. BTW - state-of-the art has gotten him to the point where he can run in a straight line. 6 weeks of training camp,and all the guy can do is run in a straight line?at this rate, he'll be able to cut left/right by December..

There's a difference between isn't cutting and can't cut. Tendinitis is an injury that requires rest. Why would they not rest him as much as they can before the season starts? And he is no greater danger of blowing out his knee on a cut as any other RB in the league. Please google tendinitis and educate yourself a bit.

 

[-X-]

I dunno, he can only run in a straight line, correct? unless he drinks some magic healing potion, he's not going to be able to cut and dash left and right for a number of weeks now.and, if he does too soon, he'll blow that knee out.and, his biggest problem was/is his surgically repaired shoulder, NOT his knee..he hasn't even taken a hit on that shoulder.red flags are up...this guy is not going to play much in 2007..I'm beginning to think he's headed for IR by week 2 or 3..Betts is the money play.. BTW - state-of-the art has gotten him to the point where he can run in a straight line. 6 weeks of training camp,and all the guy can do is run in a straight line?at this rate, he'll be able to cut left/right by December..

I'm never sure if you are being sarcastic or are being serious, NYGiants... you seem to see things in 100% black or 100% white terms, and use over the top observations to back up your opinions. Like when you took Portis' tongue-in-cheek estimate of his return by week one literally... his intent was clear, but you used it as evidence that Portis might not be ready for the regular season.I'm honestly not sure if you believe what you say or if you are trying to push Portis' value down so you can draft him for maximum value.Portis played with his bum shoulder for 7 full games, garnering 660 yards and 7 TDs. A broken hand kept him out of the final 8 1/2 games. The December shoulder surgery is something to take into consideration (Gore had surgery on both shoulders in Feb or March of '06 and he did okay.... Drew Brees did pretty well after his shoulder surgery.... Zach Thomas is another shoulder surgery success story), but it's not like he had a complete reconstruction. One would think it reasonable to say that his shoulder is better now than when he played 7 1/2 games with it being injured. There is uncertainty surrounding Portis this year... but tendonitis is not a torn ACL, a December shoulder surgery does not have a 9 month recovery time, Portis did not lose his ability, and Betts is not a stud. Anybody sticking a fork in him is nutty. Don't draft him if you are risk averse, but it may cost you.

 

[towney]

Portis is dropping into round 3 in few drafts I've seen. He might just be good value at that spot. Maybe RB/WR/Portis.

 

[LordHusker]

An owner took Portis at 2.06 in my 14-team draft last night. I took Betts in the 7th.

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

Portis is my keeper in my money league. I'm forfeiting my first round pick in order to keep him (1.03).

Applauding stupidity now, are we?

Can't really say it was a stupid move without knowing more about his league.For example, if it's a 14 team 3 or 4 player keeper, what pick it cost him becomes irrelevant. Keeping Portis in that situation, was the right move.

Let me list all the keepers in my league...LaDainian TomlinsonSteven JacksonLarry JohnsonShaun AlexanderFrank GoreJoseph AddaiRudi JohnsonBrian WestbrookLaurence MaroneyPeyton ManningRonnie BrownMaurice Jones-DrewReggie BushCedric BensonEdgerrin JamesRoy WilliamsMarques ColstonLee EvansCarnell WilliamsDeAngelo WilliamsVince YoungJulius JonesJerious NorwoodTatum BellLenDale WhiteVernon DavisChris HenryGreg JenningsJay CutlerSantonio HolmesMatt LeinartKevin JonesBrandon JacobsWe get to keep 1 player at the expense of a 1st round pick. In addition to this rule, every rookie you draft, you get to keep in future years at the expense of a late round pick (as long as you drafted or traded for the player in his rookie year).That pretty much answers it for you guys. Carry on.

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

I forgot to mention that there's a maximum of 3 rookie keepers to go along the maximum of 1 regular keeper.

Also, we declared our regular keepers in early July. It wasn't until each team's keepers were made public that I found out that Parker and McGahee weren't kept by their respective owners. Had I known that, I might have dropped Portis. Might have.

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

WebMD.com

What Is Tendinitis?

Tendinitis is an inflammation or irritation of the tendon, a thick cord that attaches bone to muscle.

What Causes Tendinitis?

Tendinitis is most often caused by repetitive, minor impact on the affected area, or from a sudden more serious injury.

There are many activities that can cause Tendinitis, including:

Gardening

Raking

Carpentry

Shoveling

Painting

Scrubbing

Tennis

Golf

Skiing

Throwing and pitching

Incorrect posture at work or home or poor stretching or conditioning before exercise or playing sports also increases a person's risk. Other risk factors for Tendinitis, include:

An abnormal or poorly placed bone or joint (such as length differences in your legs or arthritis in a joint) that stresses soft-tissue structures
Stresses from other conditions, such as rheumatoid arthritis, gout, psoriatic arthritis, thyroid disorders, or unusual medication reactions
Occasionally an infection can cause Tendinitis.Who Gets Tendinitis?

Anyone can get Tendinitis, but it is more common in adults, especially those over 40 years of age. As tendons age they tolerate less stress, are less elastic, and are easier to tear.

Where Does Tendinitis Occur?

Tendinitis can occur in almost any area of the body where a tendon connects a bone to a muscle. The most common places are:

Base of the thumb
Elbow
Shoulder
Hip
Knee
Achilles tendonWhat Are the Symptoms of Tendinitis?

The symptoms of Tendinitis include:

Pain at the site of the tendon and surrounding area. Pain may be a gradual buildup or sudden and severe, especially if calcium deposits are present.
Loss of motion in the shoulder, called "adhesive capsulitis" or frozen shoulder.How Can I Avoid Tendinitis?

When performing activities:

Take it slow at first. Gradually build up your activity level.
Use limited force and limited repetitions.
Stop if unusual pain occurs. Do something else. Try again later and if pain recurs, stop that activity for the day.How Is Tendinitis Treated?

Initial treatment includes:

Avoiding activities that aggravate the problem
Resting the injured area
Icing the area the day of the injury
Taking over-the-counter anti-inflammatory medicinesIf the condition does not improve in a week, see your doctor. You may need more advanced treatments, including:

Corticosteroid injections. Corticosteroids (often called " steroids") are often used because they work quickly to decrease the inflammation and pain.
Physical therapy. This can be very beneficial, especially for a "frozen shoeulder." Physical therapy includes range of motion exercises and splinting (thumb, forearm, bands).
Surgery. This is only rarely needed for severe problems not responding to other treatments.How Long Will Recovery Take?

Tendinitis may take weeks to months to recover, depending on the severity of your injury.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Portis is my keeper in my money league. I'm forfeiting my first round pick in order to keep him (1.03).

Applauding stupidity now, are we?

Can't really say it was a stupid move without knowing more about his league.For example, if it's a 14 team 3 or 4 player keeper, what pick it cost him becomes irrelevant. Keeping Portis in that situation, was the right move.

True. I/we have no idea what is out there after accounting for keepers. So, what is available? 1.03 just sounded good, but without the rules/keepers we don't know.

If you don't know then why the stupidity remark? Stupidity is making conclusions without knowing all the facts.

Kind of like applauding his decision to keep Portis and not knowing if Stephen Jackson, Gore, and Addai would be available to draft? I