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C. Portis knee problems (1 Viewer)

kensat30 said:
bonesman said:
i haven't seen this recent blurb posted here:Clinton Portis-RB- Redskins Aug. 29 - 6:05 pm et Clinton Portis believes this may be his final season as a Redskin.Portis feels like he has to stay healthy this year or he'll be gone. However, the 'Skins will probably hold onto Portis as long as possible if he shows his body isn't breaking down. It's a key season for the rest of his career.Source: Washington Times
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I saw the interview when Portis said this. He was referring to the business side of football, when you are hot one year and on the hot seat the next. It was alluding to the short memories that people have. Clinton right now knows he is not hot. I think he comes back with a vengeance this year.This is the same interview after his first full practice where he said he was currently at 85%. And he wanted to be 95% the next day. And he wanted to be 98% for the preseason. Leading up to his 100% return to the regular season.Yet we see Torry Holt at 70-75% seeing no significant dropoff...
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If you look at the FBG rankings he has slid the last few days. Although I don't know what they ranked him in previous updates, the last 3 days have seen him slide out of the top 10 in 6 out of 9 FBG rankings. Although 2 rankers seem completely unfazed by the news and 1 ranked him at 9.
 
From Rotoworld.com:

Clinton Portis went through pre-game warmups Thursday night, but was declared inactive by the Redskins.He ended up practicing roughly five times in camp and never took a preseason carry.The Washington Post's Jason LaCanfora goes so far as to predict Ladell Betts will get the majority of the touches early in the season. Portis remains a risky third-round pick if your draft is this weekend.Source: Washington PostRelated: Ladell Betts
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OK. I'm officially a little concerned I drafted this guy in the 3rd round now. :ptts:
 
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Trap Play said:
From Rotoworld.com:

Clinton Portis went through pre-game warmups Thursday night, but was declared inactive by the Redskins.He ended up practicing roughly five times in camp and never took a preseason carry.The Washington Post's Jason LaCanfora goes so far as to predict Ladell Betts will get the majority of the touches early in the season. Portis remains a risky third-round pick if your draft is this weekend.Source: Washington PostRelated: Ladell Betts
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OK. I'm officially a little concerned I drafted this guy in the 3rd round now. :unsure:
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I would love to see more snippets of this so Portis can keep falling in all these redrafts over the weekend...ridiculous.
 
I drafted Boldin in the 4th round.

I traded him for Portis who was drafted in the 3rd round.

I was deep at WR and he needed help at WR.

I then traded Terry Glenn for Ladell Betts (who was owned by someone else).

My only concern is that they split carries down the middle.

I don't really care who gets the carries as long as one of them gets the majority.

 
countingcrow said:
I drafted Boldin in the 4th round.I traded him for Portis who was drafted in the 3rd round.I was deep at WR and he needed help at WR.I then traded Terry Glenn for Ladell Betts (who was owned by someone else).My only concern is that they split carries down the middle. I don't really care who gets the carries as long as one of them gets the majority.
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Even if they split them down the middle, I think Portis would get all the meaningful carries.
 
Trap Play said:
From Rotoworld.com:

Clinton Portis went through pre-game warmups Thursday night, but was declared inactive by the Redskins.

He ended up practicing roughly five times in camp and never took a preseason carry.

The Washington Post's Jason LaCanfora goes so far as to predict Ladell Betts will get the majority of the touches early in the season. Portis remains a risky third-round pick if your draft is this weekend.

Source: Washington Post

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OK. I'm officially a little concerned I drafted this guy in the 3rd round now. :thumbup:
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thehornet said:
that is horrible news. this is a bad bad situation.
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:thumbup: Raise your hands all of you who actually thought that now that he is finally cleared to practice he was actually going to go out on the field in the most meaningless of meaningless games and risk getting hurt like last year.For the record, my hand is down.
 
The Scientist said:
Trap Play said:
From Rotoworld.com:

Clinton Portis went through pre-game warmups Thursday night, but was declared inactive by the Redskins.

He ended up practicing roughly five times in camp and never took a preseason carry.

The Washington Post's Jason LaCanfora goes so far as to predict Ladell Betts will get the majority of the touches early in the season. Portis remains a risky third-round pick if your draft is this weekend.

Source: Washington Post

Related: Ladell Betts
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OK. I'm officially a little concerned I drafted this guy in the 3rd round now. :rolleyes:
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No Go For Portis

Well, Clinton gets his wish - doesn't he always around here? - and won't be going. So he enters Week 1 off of 4 practices and that's it. After saying how Portis could have played the last three preseason games if need be, and playing everything down, the guy ends up missing basically the entire preseason save for like 5 practices. We'll see how that works out. I've said and written for a long time that Betts will play a big role this season, and I have to think he gets the bulk of the carries early on.

Also, Khary Campbell not in uniform (UPDATE: With a hamstring injury)

There is a chance they keep most of the defensive starters out of this thing, also save for Landry, and give a lot of work to the backups. With 3-4 jobs still open on that side of the ball (last CB, last safety, etc), it's a good way to go and the starters showed very well in the 3 previous games (sacks and turnovers aside).

By Jason La Canfora | August 30, 2007; 7:14 PM ET
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Sounds like La Canfora is not the biggest Portis fan...
 
countingcrow said:
I drafted Boldin in the 4th round.I traded him for Portis who was drafted in the 3rd round.I was deep at WR and he needed help at WR.I then traded Terry Glenn for Ladell Betts (who was owned by someone else).My only concern is that they split carries down the middle. I don't really care who gets the carries as long as one of them gets the majority.
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This post helps anybody here how? :lmao:
 
I don't think I've ever payed attention to a thread like I have this one. :thumbup: oh and I agree with mad sweeney.

:handdown:

 
With Campbell's return a success, the Redskins (2-2 in the preseason) have one less thing to worry about heading into the Sept. 9 season opener against Miami. But running back Clinton Portis and left tackle Chris Samuels did not play at all during the preseason, although they're expected for Miami.
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The Redskins, who finished 2-2 in the preseason, have been unable to get their entire first-team offense on the field at the same time this preseason, but for a few drills before kickoff, the unit was together. Portis and Samuels, who have missed every exhibition game, were in uniform and warmed up before the game. Each tested his injured knee slightly more than in the past, but neither was in the lineup.

"Discretion was the better part of valor," Gibbs said of Portis.

Portis and Samuels will go into next weekend's opener feeling their way, not having taken a real hit or competed against an opponent in a month or more. Starting left guard Pete Kendall made his Redskins debut a week after being acquired from the Jets, and he, too, will be less than 100 percent come Sept. 9. Though physically fit, he never will have played with Samuels, his left-side partner, and still is getting acquainted with teammates and the scheme. Kendall came off with the entire starting offense after the scoring drive, admittedly not yet versed in the nuances of this scheme.
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This was linked in an ongoing C. Portis conversation with league-mates.

There's lots of patellar tendonitis info you can take from it in CP's case. Some were okay with 3 months rest, others couldn't shake the injury and opted for a last-ditch surgery with a low success rate.

Also.. didn't Brian Westbrook have tendonitis in one of his knees? I coulda' swore he did.

 
yup.

I'm not scared of CP's knee because I've played collegiate soccer for 4 years with patellar tendinitis. Sure, it's sometimes sore, but it's definitely manageable.

 
WarRedbirds said:
The Scientist said:
Trap Play said:
From Rotoworld.com:

Clinton Portis went through pre-game warmups Thursday night, but was declared inactive by the Redskins.

He ended up practicing roughly five times in camp and never took a preseason carry.

The Washington Post's Jason LaCanfora goes so far as to predict Ladell Betts will get the majority of the touches early in the season. Portis remains a risky third-round pick if your draft is this weekend.

Source: Washington Post

Related: Ladell Betts
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OK. I'm officially a little concerned I drafted this guy in the 3rd round now. :goodposting:
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No Go For Portis

Well, Clinton gets his wish - doesn't he always around here? - and won't be going. So he enters Week 1 off of 4 practices and that's it. After saying how Portis could have played the last three preseason games if need be, and playing everything down, the guy ends up missing basically the entire preseason save for like 5 practices. We'll see how that works out. I've said and written for a long time that Betts will play a big role this season, and I have to think he gets the bulk of the carries early on.

Also, Khary Campbell not in uniform (UPDATE: With a hamstring injury)

There is a chance they keep most of the defensive starters out of this thing, also save for Landry, and give a lot of work to the backups. With 3-4 jobs still open on that side of the ball (last CB, last safety, etc), it's a good way to go and the starters showed very well in the 3 previous games (sacks and turnovers aside).

By Jason La Canfora | August 30, 2007; 7:14 PM ET
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Sounds like La Canfora is not the biggest Portis fan...
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As a Skins homer I read JLC's blog on a daily basis and I must say the man is as pessimistic as you can be. I wouldn't take his "predicition" too seriously this is the same guy that "covers" the Redskins for a living yet the JETS website announced the Kendall trade before JLC even had it up on his blog. Word around town is this guy is rarely at Redskin's Park and just goes on what others say...just my 2 cents.
 
((Morpheus)) said:
yup. I'm not scared of CP's knee because I've played collegiate soccer for 4 years with patellar tendinitis. Sure, it's sometimes sore, but it's definitely manageable.
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Apparently you were equipped with a knee brace made entirely of bacon. :goodposting:
 
So all of us Portis owners. Whos starting him vs Miami (obv assuming he plays)?

 
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Miami was a tough run D last year .... I am thinking whether to start him or bench him and go from week 2 on. That way we can figure out if he is ready or not too.

 
By preseason's end, I'll have participated in 8 redrafts for money & I doubt seriously if I have Portis on 1 team (I've done 6 so far & don't own him). Am I wrong? Maybe, but FF is about absorbing info, sorting it out, & processing that info. Therefore, I believe CP has a knee issue which will quite possibly put him in a RBBC situation this season (or a big part of this season) at the very least. I haven't decided what round I'd pull the trigger, but it wouldn't be in the first 6 rounds & he's always gone by then. That said, I also don't own Betts, but depending on the dynamics of the league, I may to take a chance on him if he falls far enough in these last 2 drafts.

 
The_Man said:
La Canfora is doing an online chat right now -- please help me pepper him with questions about Portis.
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Worst chat ever, so far. One Andre Carter question, one about Sean Taylor, one about Brandon Lloyd, and two about third-string QB Mark Brunell.And now a question about fourth-string QB Jordan Palmer and one about Joe Gibbs.

I hope you are all sending in CP questions -- I've submitted 4 so far.

 
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OK, here's the CP info:

Falls Church, Va.: Jason, can you shed any light on the actual physical status of Clinton Portis? Have the coaches just kept him under wraps, per his wish, or is he really struggling to rehabilitate that knee? Thanks.Jason La Canfora: A little bit of both - he's in no rush to play and they were in rush to play him. It's a big deal anytime a guy like him misses the entire preseason with a knee injury and they are definitely concerned. It's an unknown to everyone as to how the knee will respond to game conditions, being, hit, etc, and their best hope is that all of the time off will have allowed the tendinitis to subside, but there is no way to know for sure until he puts it through the rigors of game day and they chose to delay that until the last possible time, Week 1 itself.
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Tells us exactly nothing.
 
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The_Man said:
OK, here's the CP info:

Falls Church, Va.: Jason, can you shed any light on the actual physical status of Clinton Portis? Have the coaches just kept him under wraps, per his wish, or is he really struggling to rehabilitate that knee? Thanks.

Jason La Canfora: A little bit of both - he's in no rush to play andthey were in rush to play him. It's a big deal anytime a guy like him misses the entire preseason with a knee injury and they are definitely concerned. It's an unknown to everyone as to how the knee will respond to game conditions, being, hit, etc, and their best hope is that all of the time off will have allowed the tendinitis to subside, but there is no way to know for sure until he puts it through the rigors of game day and they chose to delay that until the last possible time, Week 1 itself.
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Tells us exactly nothing.
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This guy has no credibility. He just makes stuff up like there is some inside knowledge. I love how he makes it sound more exciting by adding a little flourish at the end "until the last possible time, Week 1 itself". Check out this article posted before preseason even began on Coach Gibbs' thoughts. REAL info here.

BALTIMORE, Aug. 4 -- Coach Joe Gibbs said that a recent MRI exam of tailback Clinton Portis's right knee showed only the previously diagnosed tendinitis, and that he could have played Saturday had the Redskins been involved in a regular season game. Portis will continue to focus on strengthening and conditioning his knee this week -- there is no set timetable for his return to full practice -- but Gibbs said he feels good about Portis's progress.

"I have every confidence that had that been a game today, he would have played," Gibbs said after the scrimmage against the Baltimore Ravens at M&T Bank Stadium. "And I think he feels that way. But at the same time if there's a chance for us to get that calmed down, we're going to do that."
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They sure were in a rush to play him.
 
kensat30 said:
The_Man said:
OK, here's the CP info:

Falls Church, Va.: Jason, can you shed any light on the actual physical status of Clinton Portis? Have the coaches just kept him under wraps, per his wish, or is he really struggling to rehabilitate that knee? Thanks.

Jason La Canfora: A little bit of both - he's in no rush to play andthey were in rush to play him. It's a big deal anytime a guy like him misses the entire preseason with a knee injury and they are definitely concerned. It's an unknown to everyone as to how the knee will respond to game conditions, being, hit, etc, and their best hope is that all of the time off will have allowed the tendinitis to subside, but there is no way to know for sure until he puts it through the rigors of game day and they chose to delay that until the last possible time, Week 1 itself.
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Tells us exactly nothing.
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This guy has no credibility. He just makes stuff up like there is some inside knowledge. I love how he makes it sound more exciting by adding a little flourish at the end "until the last possible time, Week 1 itself". Check out this article posted before preseason even began on Coach Gibbs' thoughts. REAL info here.

BALTIMORE, Aug. 4 -- Coach Joe Gibbs said that a recent MRI exam of tailback Clinton Portis's right knee showed only the previously diagnosed tendinitis, and that he could have played Saturday had the Redskins been involved in a regular season game. Portis will continue to focus on strengthening and conditioning his knee this week -- there is no set timetable for his return to full practice -- but Gibbs said he feels good about Portis's progress.

"I have every confidence that had that been a game today, he would have played," Gibbs said after the scrimmage against the Baltimore Ravens at M&T Bank Stadium. "And I think he feels that way. But at the same time if there's a chance for us to get that calmed down, we're going to do that."
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They sure were in a rush to play him.
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:hey: I become less and less a JLC fan the more he writes. He does fine in his articles, but his blogs tend to have A LOT of unsupported information.

 
kensat30 said:
The_Man said:
OK, here's the CP info:

Falls Church, Va.: Jason, can you shed any light on the actual physical status of Clinton Portis? Have the coaches just kept him under wraps, per his wish, or is he really struggling to rehabilitate that knee? Thanks.

Jason La Canfora: A little bit of both - he's in no rush to play andthey were in rush to play him. It's a big deal anytime a guy like him misses the entire preseason with a knee injury and they are definitely concerned. It's an unknown to everyone as to how the knee will respond to game conditions, being, hit, etc, and their best hope is that all of the time off will have allowed the tendinitis to subside, but there is no way to know for sure until he puts it through the rigors of game day and they chose to delay that until the last possible time, Week 1 itself.
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Tells us exactly nothing.
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This guy has no credibility. He just makes stuff up like there is some inside knowledge. I love how he makes it sound more exciting by adding a little flourish at the end "until the last possible time, Week 1 itself". Check out this article posted before preseason even began on Coach Gibbs' thoughts. REAL info here.

BALTIMORE, Aug. 4 -- Coach Joe Gibbs said that a recent MRI exam of tailback Clinton Portis's right knee showed only the previously diagnosed tendinitis, and that he could have played Saturday had the Redskins been involved in a regular season game. Portis will continue to focus on strengthening and conditioning his knee this week -- there is no set timetable for his return to full practice -- but Gibbs said he feels good about Portis's progress.

"I have every confidence that had that been a game today, he would have played," Gibbs said after the scrimmage against the Baltimore Ravens at M&T Bank Stadium. "And I think he feels that way. But at the same time if there's a chance for us to get that calmed down, we're going to do that."
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They sure were in a rush to play him.
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They in this case meaning everyone posting on this thread... :unsure:
 
I find it interesting reading this thread from the beginning that almost every negative story from a "beat writer" regarding Portis comes from this Jason LA Con fellow. The same guy spewing BS like it's the truth. This guy is putting so much spin on the Portis/Betts saga it is ridiculous. Just from reading what he is saying tells me that this guy has little if ANY inside knowledge of the Redskin's players and/or front office. NYGiantsguy56 is that you?

I've said and written for a long time that Betts will play a big role this season, and I have to think he gets the bulk of the carries early on.
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How can this guy be considered a reporter on this subject? EVERYONE has an opinion and an #######. Tooting your own horn a little early jackass.
 
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kensat30 said:
I find it interesting reading this thread from the beginning that almost every negative story from a "beat writer" regarding Portis comes from this Jason LA Con fellow. The same guy spewing BS like it's the truth. This guy is putting so much spin on the Portis/Betts saga it is ridiculous. Just from reading what he is saying tells me that this guy has little if ANY inside knowledge of the Redskin's players and/or front office. NYGiantsguy56 is that you?

I've said and written for a long time that Betts will play a big role this season, and I have to think he gets the bulk of the carries early on.
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How can this guy be considered a reporter on this subject? EVERYONE has an opinion and an #######. Tooting your own horn a little early jackass.
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It's a little known fact outside of D.C. but the Washington Post is and has been embroiled in a war of sorts with Dan Snyder and his ownership regime. The Post has been used to kind treatment by the team, but they started writing negative pieces that the team perceived as groundless attack pieces some years ago now, and the team initially began favoring the Washington Times before ramping up its online presence and directly reporting its news to its fans on its website and bypassing the press, and the Post in particular, in the process. They, for example, have bypassed the local beat guys and given leads on breaking stories to national media like ESPN reporters, etc. This has only gotten inflamed by the Redskins' acquisition/partnership with the formerly independent Extremeskins.com message board, which was already heavily trafficked and now is simply huge. Various message board posters and admins have been openly critical of many Post reporters, cataloguing for example their factual errors in their columns (of which there have been many), and generally hammering them. Nunyo Demasio was a favorite target before he moved on to ESPN (IIRC). The Post, for its part, has continued to be as critical as it can possibly be of the direction of the team, etc. For example, Leonard Shapiro just wrote an article hammering the team for releasing Joe Salave'a (who was universally regarded as being a great teammate) simply because the team wanted to go with youthful talent because Salave'a had played injured for them two years ago during their playoff run. It was a needless shot that wasn't intellectually honest about (actually, it didn't even mention) the current state of affairs in the NFL, with the salary cap and free agency. Part of this is new media (the internet) versus old media (newspapers) and part of this has just gotten personal and ugly between the team and the Post. Either way, it means that you should take articles from, and particularly opinion pieces from, the Washington Post about the Redskins with a huge grain of salt.
 
:football: Thanks Redman for helping us out with an insiders view of the local media situation. Living on the westcoast I would have had NO CLUE about that kind of thing. Very helpful, and the insight is great!! :popcorn: :thumbup:
 
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Good post, redman.

During this war, the Redskins took away a couple hundred lower level season tickets from the Post a couple years ago. I don't remember all the details behind that.

I think locals will also say that local sports radio shows have also battled with the Redskins for several years. Andy Pollin will probably never forgive the Skins for switching radio stations and he was downright pissed when Snyder started his own radio network. He rarely says a kind word about the team anymore.

 
redman said:
Part of this is new media (the internet) versus old media (newspapers) and part of this has just gotten personal and ugly between the team and the Post. Either way, it means that you should take articles from, and particularly opinion pieces from, the Washington Post about the Redskins with a huge grain of salt.
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To be fair, Jason LaCanfora has done some very informative articles and opinion pieces on the Skins over the past 6-9 months. And it's valuable to read from media sources that are not fed (and regurgitating) the "company line" fed to them by the Redskins .
 
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