Calif HS Serves Fried Chicken and Watermelon for Black History Month (1 Viewer)

[pollardsvision]

They should have just had Popeye's cater their lunch.

Shocked they didn't order Chick Fil-A. White people love Chick Fil-A.

Ha, which white people? Not the white people down here.

Apparently all of them except "down there".

You know what else is funny about this Popeyes/ChikFilA thing:

this likely never would have happened in the South. Ne-ver.

This happened in Northern California outside of Oakland.

Racial sensitivity per capita may be directly related to the number and location of Popeyes franchises.

Just a theory, no validation.

Could be. Not totally sure what the Popeyes franchise map looks like, but I assume it's heavy in the Deep South (though it's not very prevalent on the fringe of that in NC/VA, as far as I know).

I'd assume, the further you get away from the Deep South, it becomes more and more likely that people are just unfamiliar with racist connotations with fried chicken and watermelon.

 

[pollardsvision]

OK then- what's the negative consequence of oversensitivity? Nobody's saying there should actually be laws against using words or citing stereotypes, so it's not a free speech issue. Who cares?

It creates unnecessary friction?

It prevents us growing together and, like the last poster says, perpetuates an "us vs them" mentality?

It is not empowering in any way and, if anything, it unconsciously prevents a group from overcoming their problems?

That last bit seems a little paternalistic.

I think people that aren't part of a minority have no idea how members of a minority feel when they hear or see certain things. So as long as we're not talking about a handful of hypersensitive weirdos that nobody else in the minority group gives any credence to, I don't see what's wrong with treading lightly.

I don't know if I agree about the paternalistic comment. Take a thing like welfare. Many feel that welfare works opposite towards empowering people who receive it to someday being gainfully employed. It's not helping those who need it, it's holding them down.

And, I'll poke at your wording again. I don't mind treading lightly. Or being sensitive. It's when we go overboard....and we do. A lot.

Seriously, how the hell do we go from "tread lightly on a potentially offensive topic" to "welfare" so fast?

 

[Deepster]

OK then- what's the negative consequence of oversensitivity? Nobody's saying there should actually be laws against using words or citing stereotypes, so it's not a free speech issue. Who cares?

It creates unnecessary friction?

It prevents us growing together and, like the last poster says, perpetuates an "us vs them" mentality?

It is not empowering in any way and, if anything, it unconsciously prevents a group from overcoming their problems?

What?

Not sure I understand your confusion.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

They should have just had Popeye's cater their lunch.

Shocked they didn't order Chick Fil-A. White people love Chick Fil-A.

Ha, which white people? Not the white people down here.

Apparently all of them except "down there".

You know what else is funny about this Popeyes/ChikFilA thing:

this likely never would have happened in the South. Ne-ver.

This happened in Northern California outside of Oakland.

Racial sensitivity per capita may be directly related to the number and location of Popeyes franchises.

Just a theory, no validation.

Popeye's TV commercials perpetuate the stereotype.

That would come as quite a surprise to many people around here, Popeyes was born in NO and it's a staple at many celebrations black and white, Vietnamese, hispanic, you name it, not to mention all of Mardi Gras. That's how people are here. If anyone black or white thought it was being "racist" it would end in 5 seconds.

 

[fatness]

OK then- what's the negative consequence of oversensitivity? Nobody's saying there should actually be laws against using words or citing stereotypes, so it's not a free speech issue. Who cares?

It creates unnecessary friction?

It prevents us growing together and, like the last poster says, perpetuates an "us vs them" mentality?

It is not empowering in any way and, if anything, it unconsciously prevents a group from overcoming their problems?

That last bit seems a little paternalistic.

I think people that aren't part of a minority have no idea how members of a minority feel when they hear or see certain things. So as long as we're not talking about a handful of hypersensitive weirdos that nobody else in the minority group gives any credence to, I don't see what's wrong with treading lightly.

I don't know if I agree about the paternalistic comment. Take a thing like welfare. Many feel that welfare works opposite towards empowering people who receive it to someday being gainfully employed. It's not helping those who need it, it's holding them down.

And, I'll poke at your wording again. I don't mind treading lightly. Or being sensitive. It's when we go overboard....and we do. A lot.

Seriously, how the hell do we go from "tread lightly on a potentially offensive topic" to "welfare" so fast?

It's not a line of reasoning. It's a laundry list of gripes.

 

[pollardsvision]

They should have just had Popeye's cater their lunch.

Shocked they didn't order Chick Fil-A. White people love Chick Fil-A.

Ha, which white people? Not the white people down here.

Apparently all of them except "down there".

You know what else is funny about this Popeyes/ChikFilA thing:

this likely never would have happened in the South. Ne-ver.

This happened in Northern California outside of Oakland.

Racial sensitivity per capita may be directly related to the number and location of Popeyes franchises.

Just a theory, no validation.

Popeye's TV commercials perpetuate the stereotype.

That would come as quite a surprise to many people around here, Popeyes was born in NO and it's a staple at many celebrations black and white, Vietnamese, hispanic, you name it, not to mention all of Mardi Gras. That's how people are here. If anyone black or white thought it was being "racist" it would end in 5 seconds.

Right, but if you lived in, say, northern CA where fried chicken wasn't part of the culture....at a mostly white school with an ultra healthy menu that would never normally include fried chicken, and decide that to whip up fried chicken and watermelon in February, that's going to raise some eyebrows.

Though, I highly doubt this school intended anything to be racist and likely didn't really understand the history of that particular stereotype.

 

[TobiasFunke]

OK then- what's the negative consequence of oversensitivity? Nobody's saying there should actually be laws against using words or citing stereotypes, so it's not a free speech issue. Who cares?

It creates unnecessary friction?

It prevents us growing together and, like the last poster says, perpetuates an "us vs them" mentality?

It is not empowering in any way and, if anything, it unconsciously prevents a group from overcoming their problems?

That last bit seems a little paternalistic.

I think people that aren't part of a minority have no idea how members of a minority feel when they hear or see certain things. So as long as we're not talking about a handful of hypersensitive weirdos that nobody else in the minority group gives any credence to, I don't see what's wrong with treading lightly.

I don't know if I agree about the paternalistic comment. Take a thing like welfare. Many feel that welfare works opposite towards empowering people who receive it to someday being gainfully employed. It's not helping those who need it, it's holding them down.

And, I'll poke at your wording again. I don't mind treading lightly. Or being sensitive. It's when we go overboard....and we do. A lot.

Why do you get to decide what is an acceptable level of sensitivity and what is overboard?

It seems to me that the people who are best qualified to do that are members of the minority group that is arguably being slighted or insulted. If you're not a member of that group, you simply have no idea how the possibly offensive behavior feels to them. So like I said, as long as it's not just a small handful of fringe weirdos, what's the harm of being sensitive, even if you perceive it as oversensitivity from the outside looking in?

I assure you, the number of black people who would be insulted at a bunch of white people eating fried chicken and watermelon as part of a celebration of black history is not just a handful of fringe weirdos.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

They should have just had Popeye's cater their lunch.

Shocked they didn't order Chick Fil-A. White people love Chick Fil-A.

Ha, which white people? Not the white people down here.

Apparently all of them except "down there".

You know what else is funny about this Popeyes/ChikFilA thing:

this likely never would have happened in the South. Ne-ver.

This happened in Northern California outside of Oakland.

Racial sensitivity per capita may be directly related to the number and location of Popeyes franchises.

Just a theory, no validation.

Popeye's TV commercials perpetuate the stereotype.

That would come as quite a surprise to many people around here, Popeyes was born in NO and it's a staple at many celebrations black and white, Vietnamese, hispanic, you name it, not to mention all of Mardi Gras. That's how people are here. If anyone black or white thought it was being "racist" it would end in 5 seconds.

Right, but if you lived in, say, northern CA where fried chicken wasn't part of the culture....at a mostly white school with an ultra healthy menu that would never normally include fried chicken, and decide that to whip up fried chicken and watermelon in February, that's going to raise some eyebrows.

Yeah no doubt about that and maybe that's where I was going.

I was kidding about the Popeyes theory, but I do believe you're right. The whole thing is just badly awkward and completely out of touch.

 

[Politician Spock]

They should have just had Popeye's cater their lunch.

Shocked they didn't order Chick Fil-A. White people love Chick Fil-A.

Ha, which white people? Not the white people down here.

Apparently all of them except "down there".

You know what else is funny about this Popeyes/ChikFilA thing:

this likely never would have happened in the South. Ne-ver.

This happened in Northern California outside of Oakland.

Racial sensitivity per capita may be directly related to the number and location of Popeyes franchises.

Just a theory, no validation.

Popeye's TV commercials perpetuate the stereotype.

That would come as quite a surprise to many people around here, Popeyes was born in NO and it's a staple at many celebrations black and white, Vietnamese, hispanic, you name it, not to mention all of Mardi Gras. That's how people are here. If anyone black or white thought it was being "racist" it would end in 5 seconds.

Popeye's commercials are so obviously based on racial stereotyping that people make parody videos of them and post them on Youtube.

 

[Parrothead]

this thread is making me hungry

 

[chauncey]

So did they serve kool aid or Welch's grape soda to drink. I'm reserving judgment until this is answered.

 

[Clifford]

I keep saying, have kept saying, despite being heckled and jabbed for it, for years

If I don't

- Live near you

- Talk to you

- Socialize with you

- Work with you

- Seek to hire you actively

- Let my kids play with your kids

- As much as possible, allow my work sphere to interact with yours

- Basically walk into the typical lose/lose scenario presented

Then I stand a better chance statistically of

- Not being shot, carjacked or have my neighborhood be burned to the ground

- Have your kids interfere with the development of my kids

- Not being extorted at work by a For Profit martyr group trying to leverage negative PR and threat of a lawsuit

- Not being hit with a lawsuit or threatened with one

- Generally have my life set into turmoil

And I've always said. right when, when a black family in a predominately black American neighborhood starts to get ahead. The parents get educated get better jobs, get more opportunity, want more for their kids. They don't STAY there, they don't stay and try to reinvest in the average predominantly black community, which is often full of low income and poorly socialized people, many with extreme crime rates, poor rated schools and a culture built around seeking the next entitlement from the liberal feminist establishment.

They leave. The family units run, sadly, by only black single mothers, even if they have to work 2 jobs to do it, MOVE OUT. They aren't trying to salvage the black neighborhoods. They want their kids out.

This is seen as progress. Getting their kids around other children who are geared, by a baseline social standard, of life success is their goal. Getting to live somewhere where statistically less likely to be shot walking from their car to their front door at night is their goal. Wanting their kids to be able to play in parks that aren't drug infested, aren't teeming with narcotics units and K9s and generally be able to sleep at night without hearing gunfire is their goal.

When a black family does this, it's seen as PROGRESS. When any non African American says they want the same thing, to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and get out of those poor neighborhoods and away from those negative elements, it's called by black lobbyists who threaten lawsuit at anything, liberals, whites who have no black friends but have seen The Wire twice through and guys with no social power like Fennis to be racism.

What guys like Fennis don't understand is many of you are

1) Homeowners

2) Parents

And ding ding ding, those are the two BIGGEST factions of "racists" in America. Not white people. Not rich people. Not overly educated people.

But people who own homes and people with kids. Because people who work and bleed to buy a home aren't going to be ok with Section 8 housing coming in two blocks away from them. People who are parents have little to no tolerance to their kids being around kids who are seen as bad seeds. Kids who are bred with ignorance and from families that don't value education, have a history of criminals in them, and often live on the system, basically becoming breeding grounds to take advantage of our liberal welfare state.

When you buy a gun for self defense, you aren't worried about Anthony Borberley shirking getting paid content to you on time because he's got term papers, with Buttermilk Ranch dressing all over his fingers from dipping french fries, and salad and pretty much any meat product in it, while bemoaning the Rooney Rule to the one black guy he kind of passes by every day. You are thinking about black people. When you get a home security system, you aren't afraid of some guy named Chad, with a popped collar, a skin tight Le Tigre shirt and GAP khakis breaking into your home, you are thinking about black people. When you go to your car late at night in a parking structure, and you are thinking this isn't a safe spot to be for long, you could get mugged or stabbed or carjacked here, you aren't thinking about being violated by three guys who look like the cast of Friends, or some Lifetime movie. You are probably thinking about black people.

In modern western society, there are racists. There are also people who make honest mistakes. The margin for error is pretty much zero. Even if you do nothing wrong, the accusation alone can be damaging. It's a classic lose/lose situation. The answer is not to play.

The mistake by this school or this principal was to engage at all.

Does that mean you shouldn't have any black friends or coworkers or employees at all? No, it's fine when you have those that are long known to you and whom are hated by their own general culture. ( Why is that an indictment? It's the same culture that has en masse socialized their kids to harass other black kids who show signs of academic success. How in the hell can you survive as a culture and thrive with that kind of mentality ) People make fun of Wayne Brady for not being "black enough" What does that mean? He's problem because he's not trying to be a triple threat actor/singer/rapper/media mogul/fashion model/sports agent? He's a problem because he doesn't beat women, shoot up night clubs and try to intimidate white people with threats of lawsuits? He's a sell out because he doesn't see the need to operate using profanity, encouraging violence or talking about all his personal possessions and have 10 kids from 10 different stewardesses?

Blacks in America sadly do ONE THING WELL. Kill each other off. Sad as it is. My take on it is this, let them. Engaging with them in most situations will only bring bad PR, lawsuits, violence and problems for me, so why even bother. It's like a guy driving on the free way that is driving crazy, best thing to do is slow down, let him pass far far far away and in front of you, and just say, "Go ahead, go ahead and die, if that's your choice, as long as it has nothing to do with me"

Of course Tim Chochet is going to show up, huffing and puffing about rights and what's right and wrong. But in a world lacking social order, lacking law enforcement, lacking a military, having a full social breakdown of services and supplies and essentials, do you think Tim Chochet is going to risk the lives of his two daughters when he sees a group or armed black guys marching down the street and his liberal mindset makes him believe they are there to restore order? See because that black single mom who moved out of those crappy drug filled crime ridden neighborhood already know the answer.

So while Tim Chochet's daughters are being gang raped and he's got his throat cut in this kind of world, remember, he might be smarter than a 5th grader, but he is just liberal enough to be dumber than many black single mothers.

I think this is the point where Sigmund Bloom calls me a bigot again, while ironically is probably thinking about which rap song to blare through the Audible once again this season. As if he would move people he loved and cared about into a crime infested drug laden neighborhood full of barred windows, litter and lousy schools.

You got all this from lunch?

 

[Scoresman]

I know the school in question. It's where the rich conservatives send their kids. Not too surprising.

Yeah but you'd think that they would know better considering they're in the Bay Area.

they're conservatives. My expectations are not set very high.

Hey...aren't you the guy that always screams you're an independent but literally every post you make you tear into conservatives?

Yeah that's me. It's not my fault conservatives make themselves such easier targets than liberals.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

They should have just had Popeye's cater their lunch.

Shocked they didn't order Chick Fil-A. White people love Chick Fil-A.

Ha, which white people? Not the white people down here.

Apparently all of them except "down there".

You know what else is funny about this Popeyes/ChikFilA thing:

this likely never would have happened in the South. Ne-ver.

This happened in Northern California outside of Oakland.

Racial sensitivity per capita may be directly related to the number and location of Popeyes franchises.

Just a theory, no validation.

Popeye's TV commercials perpetuate the stereotype.

That would come as quite a surprise to many people around here, Popeyes was born in NO and it's a staple at many celebrations black and white, Vietnamese, hispanic, you name it, not to mention all of Mardi Gras. That's how people are here. If anyone black or white thought it was being "racist" it would end in 5 seconds.

Popeye's commercials are so obviously based on racial stereotyping that people make parody videos of them and post them on Youtube.

Oh come on. Popeyes is good, their commercials just look like a New Orleans stereotype if anything, it's considered local creole spicy recipe down here, the word "black" doesn't even come into it. "Soul food" isn't even a thing down here. Someone is taking their own views and inculcating them into the commercials which are totally local in attitude. The motto is "Taste that Popeyes from New Orleans" or something similar. The sensibility here is black, that's just how we are, African culture is in our food, our music, our speech, our social rituals, and so Popeyes is New Orleans food, not "black" food. Every stereotype in those commercials (the music, the spicy references, the umbrellas, the people behind the counter) is just a New Orleans stereotype but someone somewhere else takes it and puts their own mental stamp on it, ridiculous.

 

[Deepster]

Why do you get to decide what is an acceptable level of sensitivity and what is overboard?

It seems to me that the people who are best qualified to do that are members of the minority group that is arguably being slighted or insulted. If you're not a member of that group, you simply have no idea how the possibly offensive behavior feels to them. So like I said, as long as it's not just a small handful of fringe weirdos, what's the harm of being sensitive, even if you perceive it as oversensitivity from the outside looking in?

I assure you, the number of black people who would be insulted at a bunch of white people eating fried chicken and watermelon as part of a celebration of black history is not just a handful of fringe weirdos.

Try one post without spinning my words. Just one.

Never said I get to decide. But it's certainly my right to question or poke at it.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Why do you get to decide what is an acceptable level of sensitivity and what is overboard?

It seems to me that the people who are best qualified to do that are members of the minority group that is arguably being slighted or insulted. If you're not a member of that group, you simply have no idea how the possibly offensive behavior feels to them. So like I said, as long as it's not just a small handful of fringe weirdos, what's the harm of being sensitive, even if you perceive it as oversensitivity from the outside looking in?

I assure you, the number of black people who would be insulted at a bunch of white people eating fried chicken and watermelon as part of a celebration of black history is not just a handful of fringe weirdos.

Try one post without spinning my words. Just one.

Never said I get to decide. But it's certainly my right to question or poke at it.

You said "we go overboard a lot."

I don't see how I'm spinning your words when I interpret that as you deciding what is overboard. How can you say we do it a lot if you're not deciding that we do it?

 

[Politician Spock]

They should have just had Popeye's cater their lunch.

Shocked they didn't order Chick Fil-A. White people love Chick Fil-A.

Ha, which white people? Not the white people down here.

Apparently all of them except "down there".

You know what else is funny about this Popeyes/ChikFilA thing:

this likely never would have happened in the South. Ne-ver.

This happened in Northern California outside of Oakland.

Racial sensitivity per capita may be directly related to the number and location of Popeyes franchises.

Just a theory, no validation.

Popeye's TV commercials perpetuate the stereotype.

That would come as quite a surprise to many people around here, Popeyes was born in NO and it's a staple at many celebrations black and white, Vietnamese, hispanic, you name it, not to mention all of Mardi Gras. That's how people are here. If anyone black or white thought it was being "racist" it would end in 5 seconds.

Popeye's commercials are so obviously based on racial stereotyping that people make parody videos of them and post them on Youtube.

Oh come on. Popeyes is good, their commercials just look like a New Orleans stereotype if anything, it's considered local creole spicy recipe down here, the word "black" doesn't even come into it. "Soul food" isn't even a thing down here. Someone is taking their own views and inculcating them into the commercials which are totally local in attitude. The motto is "Taste that Popeyes from New Orleans" or something similar. The sensibility here is black, that's just how we are, African culture is in our food, our music, our speech, our social rituals, and so Popeyes is New Orleans food, not "black" food. Every stereotype in those commercials (the music, the spicy references, the umbrellas, the people behind the counter) is just a New Orleans stereotype but someone somewhere else takes it and puts their own mental stamp on it, ridiculous.

Given the bolded, I assume you agree with me, but don't want to.

Imagine you're not from New Orleans, but live in the bay area, and see those commercials....

 

[Henry Ford]

So what food should be served for black history month?

Something with peanuts, soybeans, or sweet potatoes?

 

[jon_mx]

Peens, Deepster, Carolina Hustler, and many others like them seem to believe that we are worse off as a society for insisting on sensitivity toward minorities, especially blacks.

We are talking about fried chicken and watermelon. Most people I know like those. if I to KFC and pick up a bucket for my daughters its not racist. You people are way too uptight! Loosen up that guilt a bit brohans...

Yes it is...KFC is white people's fried chicken,

 

[Henry Ford]

By the way, given that there's one of these stories during black history month every year, shouldn't people realize this is going to go poorly in a school?

 

[Brony]

Check out the school's menu for this week.

Can't believe that they chucked fresh fruit spears in there. They should burn for that.

 

[Clifford]

Gordon Gekko with a racism filibuster.

It's funny, when people's relationship problems stir up in this community, people start to say "Start hiding money" Or "Nomarriage.com"

They've already openly acknowledged the disparity in most typical divorces in the Western culture and how punitive they can be on most men in our modern society.

Thinking about how to protect yourself doesn't make you a woman hater, it makes you practical.

However, if someone has the gall to say that being non African American and dealing with African Americans is rife full of potential legal liability, PR destruction, possible extortion and generally being grinded down by a lose/lose situation, somehow that's not practicality, that's somehow racism.

Parents teach their kids this all the time, if you can't get along with Kid X and/or nothing good comes of being around that person, then stay away. Parents often chastise their kids from being near a "certain kind of kid", the troublemaker, the one who will bring nothing but grief, problems and future struggles ahead.

This is practical and acceptable, but to categorize African Americans as a potential threat to the well being of non African Americans in a culture of adversarial legalism and entitlement is not?

I'm not saying all blacks are nothing but trouble, but I am saying, given the proportion of harm you can do to yourself versus not, in many many cases, and sadly in most cases, even if it's not politically correct to say, why even bother?

I'm not advocating violence, I'm not advocating taking anyone's right to work, or vote or seek happiness. I'm not trying to tell anyone to build another water fountain or cattle prod people to the back of some bus. I'm saying, if nothing good comes of something consistently, cut it out of your life. Sorry if some of you can't handle blacks being categorized right up there with high fructose corn syrup and gluten and people with herpes. Problems are problems, it's not personal.

Avoiding a high risk/low reward situation consistently isn't something I see as racism. I see it as practicality.

Do you live in a state with an above-average poverty level? Or in a rural area?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

They should have just had Popeye's cater their lunch.

Shocked they didn't order Chick Fil-A. White people love Chick Fil-A.

Ha, which white people? Not the white people down here.

Apparently all of them except "down there".

You know what else is funny about this Popeyes/ChikFilA thing:

this likely never would have happened in the South. Ne-ver.

This happened in Northern California outside of Oakland.

Racial sensitivity per capita may be directly related to the number and location of Popeyes franchises.

Just a theory, no validation.

Popeye's TV commercials perpetuate the stereotype.

That would come as quite a surprise to many people around here, Popeyes was born in NO and it's a staple at many celebrations black and white, Vietnamese, hispanic, you name it, not to mention all of Mardi Gras. That's how people are here. If anyone black or white thought it was being "racist" it would end in 5 seconds.

Popeye's commercials are so obviously based on racial stereotyping that people make parody videos of them and post them on Youtube.

Oh come on. Popeyes is good, their commercials just look like a New Orleans stereotype if anything, it's considered local creole spicy recipe down here, the word "black" doesn't even come into it. "Soul food" isn't even a thing down here. Someone is taking their own views and inculcating them into the commercials which are totally local in attitude. The motto is "Taste that Popeyes from New Orleans" or something similar. The sensibility here is black, that's just how we are, African culture is in our food, our music, our speech, our social rituals, and so Popeyes is New Orleans food, not "black" food. Every stereotype in those commercials (the music, the spicy references, the umbrellas, the people behind the counter) is just a New Orleans stereotype but someone somewhere else takes it and puts their own mental stamp on it, ridiculous.

Given the bolded, I assume you agree with me, but don't want to.

Imagine you're not from New Orleans, but live in the bay area, and see those commercials....

Yeah ok the Bay area. There are places so divided by race and have sensitivity training so over-drilled into them to prevent problems then I guess yeah, they go into mega hyper-overdrive about anything with some kind of racial or ethnic description in it that it must be bad. I spent some time in Massachusetts and Boston so I know what you mean. Some parts of Boston you see no whites; some parts of Boston you see no blacks. Go into Cambridge and talk about race and you'd think people had just read about it in a book. But for god's sake let's not take away everything good that's come out of us living together when and where we do manage to do so.

 

[timschochet]

Popeyes isn't racist. When I was a kid, we used to have a restaurant in California called Sambos which featured a little African boy as its mascot. That was racist.

 

[Henry Ford]

Popeyes isn't racist. When I was a kid, we used to have a restaurant in California called Sambos which featured a little African boy as its mascot. That was racist.

It's not a contest, with just the winner being racist.

 

[Clifford]

Thanks?

I would not change any menu. African American history month, Asian American history month, Cinco de Mayo, all cancelled. All funding that would have gone there would go to the math program or to enhance the after school sports or tutoring programs. If someone stuck a microphone in my face, I'd say I was aiming to improve the math skills of all my students. Since I cancelled everything, no one is going to come at me saying I favored one over another. If I had to, I would cancel Xmas and Halloween as well.

You are taking angry white man to whole new level. SSSSSKIIIIINNNNEEEERRRRR!!!!!

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Popeyes isn't racist. When I was a kid, we used to have a restaurant in California called Sambos which featured a little African boy as its mascot. That was racist.

Yeah, exactly. - Now Colonel Sanders, there's a line to be drawn there... somewhere, and "KFC" has tried to.

 

[Clifford]

Popeyes isn't racist. When I was a kid, we used to have a restaurant in California called Sambos which featured a little African boy as its mascot. That was racist.

It's not a contest, with just the winner being racist.

Yeah cause I think we all know who would win.

 

[Henry Ford]

Popeyes isn't racist. When I was a kid, we used to have a restaurant in California called Sambos which featured a little African boy as its mascot. That was racist.

It's not a contest, with just the winner being racist.

Yeah cause I think we all know who would win.

Hitler.

 

[jon_mx]

I know the school in question. It's where the rich conservatives send their kids. Not too surprising.

Yeah but you'd think that they would know better considering they're in the Bay Area.

they're conservatives. My expectations are not set very high.

Hey...aren't you the guy that always screams you're an independent but literally every post you make you tear into conservatives?

Yeah that's me. It's not my fault conservatives make themselves such easier targets than liberals.

How in the heck did you decipher that a conservative had anything to do with this., That is where you show your ignorance, you have no idea the person's ideology. You are a hack.

 

[timschochet]

Popeyes isn't racist. When I was a kid, we used to have a restaurant in California called Sambos which featured a little African boy as its mascot. That was racist.

It's not a contest, with just the winner being racist.

I don't get your point. Are you saying that Popeyes is racist? And are you aware that your name and avatar are of one of the biggest racists and antisemites in American history?

 

[Scoresman]

I know the school in question. It's where the rich conservatives send their kids. Not too surprising.

Yeah but you'd think that they would know better considering they're in the Bay Area.

they're conservatives. My expectations are not set very high.

Hey...aren't you the guy that always screams you're an independent but literally every post you make you tear into conservatives?

Yeah that's me. It's not my fault conservatives make themselves such easier targets than liberals.

How in the heck did you decipher that a conservative had anything to do with this., That is where you show your ignorance, you have no idea the person's ideology. You are a hack.

I'm just playing the odds. no need for personal attacks, bro.

 

[jon_mx]

I know the school in question. It's where the rich conservatives send their kids. Not too surprising.

Yeah but you'd think that they would know better considering they're in the Bay Area.

they're conservatives. My expectations are not set very high.

Hey...aren't you the guy that always screams you're an independent but literally every post you make you tear into conservatives?

Yeah that's me. It's not my fault conservatives make themselves such easier targets than liberals.

How in the heck did you decipher that a conservative had anything to do with this., That is where you show your ignorance, you have no idea the person's ideology. You are a hack.

I'm just playing the odds. no need for personal attacks, bro.

So your stereotyping people is OK???? The point is you are constantly assuming stuff about people when in fact you have no clue. Pretty hypocritical considering the topic being discussed here

 

[Politician Spock]

HOLY CRAP!

12 white people in just ONE Popeyes commercial!

 

[Clifford]

Popeyes isn't racist. When I was a kid, we used to have a restaurant in California called Sambos which featured a little African boy as its mascot. That was racist.

It's not a contest, with just the winner being racist.

Yeah cause I think we all know who would win.

Hitler.

Gotta be alive.

 

[Henry Ford]

Popeyes isn't racist. When I was a kid, we used to have a restaurant in California called Sambos which featured a little African boy as its mascot. That was racist.

It's not a contest, with just the winner being racist.

I don't get your point. Are you saying that Popeyes is racist?And are you aware that your name and avatar are of one of the biggest racists and antisemites in American history?

My point is that saying "No, that's not racist, something that's way more over the top is racist!" suggests that only the worst offenders are winners of the "racism" mantle. And I think that's wretched.

And I'm aware that Henry Ford was an anti-semite. He also published a memoir in which he stated that racism was an impediment to technological development, which creates a slightly more complex portrait of him, but we can leave that alone.

He was a racist. I'm also a racist. I was raised white, in a predominantly white neighborhood, predominantly white school, with a hell of a lot of white privilege. I struggle against racism, including my own, and despise it, but I do have those thoughts and feelings sometimes, in places people don't generally talk about. Henry Ford doesn't get that label taken away from me just by being a bigger racist. That's kind of my point.

 

[pollardsvision]

Popeyes isn't racist. When I was a kid, we used to have a restaurant in California called Sambos which featured a little African boy as its mascot. That was racist.

It's not a contest, with just the winner being racist.

Somebody forgot to tell Gekko.

 

[Clifford]

Popeyes isn't racist. When I was a kid, we used to have a restaurant in California called Sambos which featured a little African boy as its mascot. That was racist.

It's not a contest, with just the winner being racist.

I don't get your point. Are you saying that Popeyes is racist?And are you aware that your name and avatar are of one of the biggest racists and antisemites in American history?

Here we go with the job-creator bashing...why do you hate success?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

HOLY CRAP!

12 white people in just ONE Popeyes commercial!

I don't think everyone you think to be "white" in that commercial is actually "white." Some would probably describe themselves or be described as Creole maybe. This is how stupid this stuff could be, see now you're trying to count who's "white". Good luck with that.

 

[Scoresman]

I know the school in question. It's where the rich conservatives send their kids. Not too surprising.

Yeah but you'd think that they would know better considering they're in the Bay Area.

they're conservatives. My expectations are not set very high.

Hey...aren't you the guy that always screams you're an independent but literally every post you make you tear into conservatives?

Yeah that's me. It's not my fault conservatives make themselves such easier targets than liberals.

How in the heck did you decipher that a conservative had anything to do with this., That is where you show your ignorance, you have no idea the person's ideology. You are a hack.

I'm just playing the odds. no need for personal attacks, bro.

So your stereotyping people is OK???? The point is you are constantly assuming stuff about people when in fact you have no clue. Pretty hypocritical considering the topic being discussed here

you did the same thing when saying "There is a better than average chance it was a liberal school administrator that made the call." Don't try to paint yourself any different.

 

[Politician Spock]

HOLY CRAP!

12 white people in just ONE Popeyes commercial!

I don't think everyone you think to be "white" in that commercial is actually "white." Some would probably describe themselves or be described as Creole maybe. This is how stupid this stuff could be, see now you're trying to count who's "white". Good luck with that.

You're probably right. I gave Popeye's more credit for not being racist than they deserve. Oops.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

HOLY CRAP!

12 white people in just ONE Popeyes commercial!

I don't think everyone you think to be "white" in that commercial is actually "white." Some would probably describe themselves or be described as Creole maybe. This is how stupid this stuff could be, see now you're trying to count who's "white". Good luck with that.

You're probably right. I gave Popeye's more credit for not being racist than they deserve. Oops.

Right, but you know a "white" when you see one.

 

[timschochet]

Popeyes isn't racist. When I was a kid, we used to have a restaurant in California called Sambos which featured a little African boy as its mascot. That was racist.

It's not a contest, with just the winner being racist.

I don't get your point. Are you saying that Popeyes is racist?And are you aware that your name and avatar are of one of the biggest racists and antisemites in American history?

My point is that saying "No, that's not racist, something that's way more over the top is racist!" suggests that only the worst offenders are winners of the "racism" mantle. And I think that's wretched.

And I'm aware that Henry Ford was an anti-semite. He also published a memoir in which he stated that racism was an impediment to technological development, which creates a slightly more complex portrait of him, but we can leave that alone.

He was a racist. I'm also a racist. I was raised white, in a predominantly white neighborhood, predominantly white school, with a hell of a lot of white privilege. I struggle against racism, including my own, and despise it, but I do have those thoughts and feelings sometimes, in places people don't generally talk about. Henry Ford doesn't get that label taken away from me just by being a bigger racist. That's kind of my point.

Fair enough. I don't think you're a racist though. Having racist thoughts from time to time doesn't make one a racist IMO. You have to act on those thoughts, or at least express them consistently.

 

[Politician Spock]

HOLY CRAP!

12 white people in just ONE Popeyes commercial!

I don't think everyone you think to be "white" in that commercial is actually "white." Some would probably describe themselves or be described as Creole maybe. This is how stupid this stuff could be, see now you're trying to count who's "white". Good luck with that.

You're probably right. I gave Popeye's more credit for not being racist than they deserve. Oops.

Right, but you know a "white" when you see one.

 

[LinusMarr]

Popeyes isn't racist. When I was a kid, we used to have a restaurant in California called Sambos which featured a little African boy as its mascot. That was racist.

I remember sambos lol

 

[Politician Spock]

Popeyes isn't racist. When I was a kid, we used to have a restaurant in California called Sambos which featured a little African boy as its mascot. That was racist.

It's not a contest, with just the winner being racist.

I don't get your point. Are you saying that Popeyes is racist?And are you aware that your name and avatar are of one of the biggest racists and antisemites in American history?

My point is that saying "No, that's not racist, something that's way more over the top is racist!" suggests that only the worst offenders are winners of the "racism" mantle. And I think that's wretched.

And I'm aware that Henry Ford was an anti-semite. He also published a memoir in which he stated that racism was an impediment to technological development, which creates a slightly more complex portrait of him, but we can leave that alone.

He was a racist. I'm also a racist. I was raised white, in a predominantly white neighborhood, predominantly white school, with a hell of a lot of white privilege. I struggle against racism, including my own, and despise it, but I do have those thoughts and feelings sometimes, in places people don't generally talk about. Henry Ford doesn't get that label taken away from me just by being a bigger racist. That's kind of my point.

Fair enough. I don't think you're a racist though. Having racist thoughts from time to time doesn't make one a racist IMO. You have to act on those thoughts, or at least express them consistently.

Like in a series of commercials.

 

[Henry Ford]

Popeyes isn't racist. When I was a kid, we used to have a restaurant in California called Sambos which featured a little African boy as its mascot. That was racist.

It's not a contest, with just the winner being racist.

I don't get your point. Are you saying that Popeyes is racist?And are you aware that your name and avatar are of one of the biggest racists and antisemites in American history?

My point is that saying "No, that's not racist, something that's way more over the top is racist!" suggests that only the worst offenders are winners of the "racism" mantle. And I think that's wretched.

And I'm aware that Henry Ford was an anti-semite. He also published a memoir in which he stated that racism was an impediment to technological development, which creates a slightly more complex portrait of him, but we can leave that alone.

He was a racist. I'm also a racist. I was raised white, in a predominantly white neighborhood, predominantly white school, with a hell of a lot of white privilege. I struggle against racism, including my own, and despise it, but I do have those thoughts and feelings sometimes, in places people don't generally talk about. Henry Ford doesn't get that label taken away from me just by being a bigger racist. That's kind of my point.

Fair enough. I don't think you're a racist though. Having racist thoughts from time to time doesn't make one a racist IMO. You have to act on those thoughts, or at least express them consistently.

I think we're all racist to some extent once we get through to adulthood. It's a generational struggle to get away from that.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

See, these discussions end badly. Apologies for getting involved.

Spock, peace, seriously, that's what Spock's all about, big fan of the guy and you.

Let's have a great weekend and be good to everyone we meet.

Spock if you get down here, beer and chicken's on me. Or maybe we should just go to McClure's.

 

[Gachi]

The issue here isn't the food per se, but it is the reinforcement of the stereotype of every black person being the same. Black people are no different than anyone else, however we aren't seen as individuals. One black man represents all black man, the same goes with black women. If a black person robs a liquor store then all black people have to be followed around a store and harassed because if one black person does it, then they ALL must do it, right?

This line of thinking is exactly why there's discrimination in the workplace, housing, getting approved for loans/mortgages, etc for African Americans.

But of course most people see it as a small issue with just food, but it goes deeper than that.

See, this is something I think I have an issue with. Drunk Irishman jokes. Dumb polish jokes. The fat Italian pizza chef with a giant mustache on every pizza box. Black people aren't seen as individuals? Yeah. Join the club.

Are you ####### kidding me?

Did you really just pull the "black people aren't the only ones who had it bad" card?

I don't mean to sound bigoted, but I hear a lot of this from white people. You guys are so ignorant when it comes to race and race relations. Which is ironic since it was you people who created this system that discriminates and oppresses minorities.

Fun fact: in a poll taken, roughly the same percentage of white people felt that racism wasn't as issue in 1963 vs 2008.

 

[jon_mx]

HOLY CRAP!

12 white people in just ONE Popeyes commercial!

I don't think everyone you think to be "white" in that commercial is actually "white." Some would probably describe themselves or be described as Creole maybe. This is how stupid this stuff could be, see now you're trying to count who's "white". Good luck with that.

How is that racist? Everyone knows white people can't sing.