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Sounds like Illinois. I’m sure they are not the only two.Lol we don’t worry about that. Everybody just kicks that down the road.
Sounds like Illinois. I’m sure they are not the only two.Lol we don’t worry about that. Everybody just kicks that down the road.
It’s a joke. R-e-l-a-x.Pretty uncool response but typical in this forum.
Check out the OP. Go back and read it. See how the topic was framed. Climate change is our #1 issue because CA is low on water.Some absolutely awful takes in this thread.
This isn't just a California issue, it's the entire southwest. For those of you who come across as gleeful that California is in a drought so that you can spike the football on Dems, just know that CA supplies much of this country's agriculture.
Yep. If only this had been pointed out earlier in the thread.I think the difference is huge. To fix a problem you have to agree on what the cause is.
I agree climate change is a massive problem and contributes to this crisis. But funneling money at climate change initiatives - how is that going to fix the water problem? Seems that more direct solutions that can get California more water need to be considered.
:sigh:I’ve got to ask: everybody is freaking out so much about inflation (with good reason.) Wouldn’t raising the price of water result in higher prices for….well, just about everything?
Something that hasn't happened for years. We use get rain every afternoon. It's probably been 10 to 15 years ago.
Maybe, maybe not but in the case of CA, whether illegal or not, they are the people feeding you (unless you grow your own food) so it's kind of a moot point. You need people to work in agriculture and white anglo ain't doing it in CA. Frankly I don't know how how people do it in CA but I digress. I couldn't live there on what I make and moving there wouldn't provide enough of a cost of living bump to cover the difference.Has anyone mentioned the possible role illegal immigration has played in the population explosion changing the land of plenty to the land of scarcity?
Are you telling me Dinosaurs didn’t have mink coats?the earth has always cycled - for like, millions of years
regardless - the agriculture of CA is often dry land farming - they call it that for a reason
Ok, this is bugging the #### out of me. Is it desalination or desalinization?There is no fix to this..none..unless we work on desalinization.
I probably spelled it wrong. It felt wrong when I typed it however I was too lazy to check it to be honestOk, this is bugging the #### out of me. Is it desalination or desalinization?
I mean, really, that's the important topic to nail down in here.
Are you telling me Dinosaurs didn’t have mink coats?
Nobody is saying human beings burning fossil fuel is THE reason for global warming. But you knew this already.I'm telling you dinosaurs lived on a planet that was far warmer than we are right now and when it got colder, people burning fossil fuels wasn't the reason
Yes. Multi-year and worst it’s ever been. But it’s not just Cali as mentioned. The whole of the southwest is in it.I think a few things.
Global warming is a real problem and the people in D.C. need to get on it.
I don't know anything about the weather in California. Are you guys having an extended drought?
Global warming is a real problem and the people in D.C. need to get on it.
jm- this just popped up on my yahoo feed. The internet overlords must have been listening in. …. https://www.yahoo.com/news/over-half-u-drought-wildfires-232205205.htmlI think a few things.
Global warming is a real problem and the people in D.C. need to get on it.
I don't know anything about the weather in California. Are you guys having an extended drought?
The “Do as I say, not as I do” is strong with liberal elites.Los Angeles Daily water consumption
Compared to nearby cities, Beverly Hills has the highest residential water use: 135 gallons per person per day. Burbank's residents use 111 gallons a day. Los Angeles (78 gallons) uses about 40% less per person than Beverly Hills.Dec 8, 2016
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2020Joe Biden (D)*71.0%Donald Trump (R)26.9%
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Democrats make up almost all of Hollywood, and they're the ones crying climate change, global warming and .... they're the ones with the highest residential water consumption
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Water and fire don't know political boundaries, much like COVID. We are the USA and need to work together to combat Climate Change vs assessing political make-upTrump's wildfire comment was dumb. Not sure what that has to do with liberals talking about water shortages, climate change, drought etc etc. Then practicing nothing of what they preach, or very little.
What's California's political makeup? 65 %D 35 R? 70/30? Get your house in order before preaching at other states to bail you out . It's a serious problem. Just practice what you preach is all.
Exactly!! So the Californians need to look inward first. Start there. Not sure why this is hard to understand?? Cut water usage like their governor wants.Water and fire don't know political boundaries, much like COVID. We are the USA and need to work together to combat Climate Change vs assessing political make-up
This may be the first post of yours I'm in total agreement with --It's not about wasteful usage, people. It's about drought.
And the drought is being caused by global climate change, resulting in lower mountain snowpack and rainfall in general in the West.
Obviously, given the current drought, Californians (together everyone in the West, Southwest and Plains states) will need to cut back drastically on water use.
But to point the finger at a Blue State in a type of "Californians made their own bed so lie in it" is just ignorant.
Partially. As I said before. I believe its far more due to overpopulationIt's not about wasteful usage, people. It's about drought.
And the drought is being caused by global climate change, resulting in lower mountain snowpack and rainfall in general in the West.
Obviously, given the current drought, Californians (together everyone in the West, Southwest and Plains states) will need to cut back drastically on water use.
But to point the finger at a Blue State in a type of "Californians made their own bed so lie in it" is just ignorant.
You guys are funny. It wasn't as absurd as you thoughtI understand this is in the Politics Forum, but really? We have enough things to be partisan about, but water shortages??
It's like Trump blaming the wildfires on the States for not raking the forest floors.
You guys are funny. It wasn't as absurd as you thought
https://lhc.ca.gov/report/fire-mountain-rethinking-forest-management-sierra-nevada
It’s not the liberal areas in CA using the most water. The vast majority of our water use is in the Republican dominated agricultural areas. Just to be clear I’m not blaming the CA GOP for this either. Drought knows no political parties. It’s a major problem, and one that needs to be addressed ASAP, but residential users aren’t really going to make a dent in this alone.Trump's wildfire comment was dumb. Not sure what that has to do with liberals talking about water shortages, climate change, drought etc etc. Then practicing nothing of what they preach, or very little.
What's California's political makeup? 65 %D 35 R? 70/30? Get your house in order before preaching at other states to bail you out . It's a serious problem. Just practice what you preach is all.
Any time a civilization outgrows its sustainable use of resources it is too big. So it's two sides of the same coin.Partially. As I said before. I believe its far more due to overpopulation
Thank you for the post. I lost the will power to repeat myself in this thread.It's not about wasteful usage, people. It's about drought.
And the drought is being caused by global climate change, resulting in lower mountain snowpack and rainfall in general in the West.
Obviously, given the current drought, Californians (together everyone in the West, Southwest and Plains states) will need to cut back drastically on water use.
But to point the finger at a Blue State in a type of "Californians made their own bed so lie in it" is just ignorant.
No worries, brother. Everyone needs a break. Keep fighting the good fight.Thank you for the post. I lost the will power to repeat myself in this thread.
Unfortunately that simply won’t happen. We, as a people, seem completely incapable of denying ourselves anything. We will drive innovation and technology advancements long before we sacrifice anything. Seems to be who we are as a species.I really feel that we as a nation are going to need to acquire new tastes for foods that are less water intensive.
I brought this up more as of course Trump a) wouldn't pin this on climate change (again the primary cause) and 2) if it were a red state he probably would have kept his mouth shut or actually offered assistanceIt's not absurd at all. Even Gavin Newsom had acknowledged and promised to do more to mitigate fire risk, but of course he did the exact opposite:
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/california/gov-newsom-overstated-fire-prevention-work-report/2577585/
Where were they looking at placing it?Orange County only turned blue in 2016. If this desalination plant has been debated for 20 years there is plenty of blame for both parties to look like turds
I brought this up more as of course Trump a) wouldn't pin this on climate change (again the primary cause) and 2) if it were a red state he probably would have kept his mouth shut or actually offered assistance
Forest Management isn't "raking" -- though prescribed burns would be a part of it
Orange County. Huntington Beach.Where were they looking at placing it?
That's on us then. Most of the forest land in California is federal or privately owned.Part of forest fire mitigation is cleaning out the dead leaves, branches, etc....that accumulate on the ground. Call it what you want but he wasn't incorrect. I understand that your blind partisan hatred prevents you from rational discussion on this, but please try.
That's on us then. Most of the forest land in California is federal or privately owned.
California owns 3%. You do the math.How do you know that the Feds don't keep up their maintenance and the main risk isn't from CA owned land?
I agree, sadly.Unfortunately that simply won’t happen. We, as a people, seem completely incapable of denying ourselves anything. We will drive innovation and technology advancements long before we sacrifice anything. Seems to be who we are as a species.
Because damn near all the fires occur on federal forest land.How do you know that the Feds don't keep up their maintenance and the main risk isn't from CA owned land?
Because damn near all the fires occur on federal forest land.
You live in Colorado 65% of our forest are federally owned. How much of that land do you see raked?So you don't. Got it.